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Not hard during Aneros sessions
  • ChiManChiMan
    Posts: 29
    Hello

          I have not been able to get an erection during my aneros sessions. I have made a lot of progress with many orgasms that are getting more intense as I let go and explore. But no erections the penis stays flaccid the whole time I tried finishing off with a traditional and have successfully ejaculated flaccid I really do not like that feeling at all its just not the same as when fully erect.

    I squirt precum a lot during the session so I have lots of wet Os but it seems erections are are out of the game for now anyway,

    I have had some occasions where later on I have had a monster erection and great traditional sex with the wife. But lately the erections have been much less is it part of the rewiring? I have also been staying away from Porn during Aneros sessions, And since I have been doing the prostrate massage I have stopped traditional masturbation which  used to include viewing porn.

    From what I am finding I think I have addiction to porn and my brain was wired to associate it to ejaculation.  What I see now is that porn  will never satisfy your actual fantasies it is a substitute  for any imagination that you have during fantasy sex/masturbation and stimulates your  brain so it does not have to do any work you just get spoon fed a director. cameraman and editors idea of what your fantasy may be like,( a serving suggestion) Your brain is basically on auto pilot. Even the sound aspect (forgot to mention the soundman oops) is canned you may like to hear certain sounds or make certain sounds during sex, What you hear on the porno may actually sound like scratching nails on a chalk board in comparison to what you really want to hear.  

    You may not want the girl to take those panties off you may want her to keep them on during the whole act instead of having her partner pull them off. Maybe you want them off when they are left on. The point is you have no control over what is happening and need to go along with it in order to achieve orgasm. 

    Well I am hoping that my current erectile dysfunction is temporary from the rewiring and goes away as I continue my new journey. I am starting to remember sexual experiences  I had at puberty and as they get clearer I think the porn noise will get quieter and maybe my brain can get control of erections again with out the need to be automatically be driven by Porn,

    Anyone who can contribute comment here from first hand experience or observation  would be greatly appreciated and seen as encouragement, 

    I am really not in a happy place with this right now,


  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 1,135
    its not advisable to end sessions with ejaculation anyways so I wouldnt worry about that.  You may want to check out yourbrainonporn.com.  Lots of good advice for quitting porn.
  • ChiManChiMan
    Posts: 29

    its not advisable to end sessions with ejaculation anyways so I wouldnt worry about that.  You may want to check out yourbrainonporn.com.  Lots of good advice for quitting porn.



    Hi 
       Yes I have looked at that site and it has been helpful. I had read that a lot of people were finishing sessions off with traditional thats where I got the idea to try agreed I will leave it alone in the future it seems the last effect after of fully body orgasm is much better any way, 

    Yeah I think I need to keep working on the porn part with the erections. seems to be the lager concern for me at this point, I really do not know what else to blame it on I am on high blood pressure medicine which can also contribute.
  • ChiManChiMan
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    Himm I was reviewing that site and this seems to be what I have been describing.

    To develop porn-induced ED, heavy porn users have spent years overriding their normal mechanisms. Once porn users with ED stop, they generally experience
     a period of no libido and “dead dick.” They are now experiencing their true libido, minus the 'drug.' For years, they have simply ignored their true libido (when it signaled, "Enough!"). The urge to use was an urge triggered by cues for their addiction.

    Seems correct
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 1,135
    @chiman,
      yeah i think this answers your question.  Seems normal to have a period where your brain is going to try really hard to get that porn fix, so without it your going to feel empty and not as horny.  Stick to your guns and in no time things will go back to normal.  
  • inhopeinhope
    Posts: 981
    I have the opposite issue, mine is too hard and is a distraction form the feelings and a 'swelling' in my prostate  i look for in my sessions
  • ChiManChiMan
    Posts: 29
    I have the opposite issue, mine is too hard and is a distraction form the feelings and a 'swelling' in my prostate  i look for in my sessions
    Hi way before I knew about aneros and was single I had experimented with anal stimulation but was always timid and would try to convince myself not to do it I was homophobic and I know that now I am no longer afraid and have deep sensitivity for guys of all persuasions that are on this site I feel what ever you like we are all connected through the discovery here
    inhope said:

    Any way not to get too much off topic one of my X Girlfriends was an anal maniac we were in the back of the car and really getting into some heavy sex all of a sudden she stuck her finger up my butt and hit the prostate I did not know what that was back then thought she had some kind of magic powers, and I came like I never had before she caught me totally off guard. After that experience I would battle with the idea of further experimentation  when I finally gave in it would be infrequent but when I stimulated my self with a vibrator I would always get rock hard like you are describing I could never recreate that feeling she gave me that night as I had no idea how to achieve it I was close but as Mr. Mayfield  points out vibrators are like cutting butter with a chainsaw when it comes to prostate massage.. 

    inhope said:

    Who knows once I get though this ED thing it may be the same for me. But I would prefer if it was not during the sessions. Maybe you should try desensitizing creams to try and numb it up a bit just a thought  



  • ChiManChiMan
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    Sorry I don't know why it says inhope says I was trying to reply to Inhope
  • AneRicoAneRico
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  • BunkBunk
    Posts: 150
    Don't sweat it. I never get erect during a session. In fact, my dick nigh on disappears..! I find this helps take my mind off it, which is a good thing.
  • inhopeinhope
    Posts: 981
    from all the videos I've ever seen of successful sessions (not that you should trust the videos all the time or use them as a guide) show guys having a stiff dick, usually though its up and down in relation to the pleasure level they experience. This is true of myself for example.  
  • ChiManChiMan
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    @ChiMan

    What in the Wiki, the Forums, or in chat has led you to believe that erections have ANYTHING to do with what we are doing here?

    Can you cite examples?

    I mean, really....WTF are you thinking and what is it BASED one? (and I am specifically addressing 'erections')




    @AneRicoI really do not like the tone of your reply take it easy man This is a discussion site not an inquisition.
    You obviously do not understand what I am talking about here I used to have erections during aneros session . As inhope pointed out it can be an up and down experience during sessions that's what I used to experience, Lately I have had none flaccid the entire time not that its  bad thing . But I am trying to avoid Porn as an experiment to see if it affects my ability to have and keep an erection and so far I am finding that it does.
     I am trying the rewiring approach  that I had read on the your brain on porn website so far it looks to be what I am currently experiencing
    See below from the Wiki, it does not speak about an erection but normally a Super - T requires stimulating the Penis to ejaculation.Which in a normal situation would cause the penis to be erect. I have also seen mention of people on this site that will be erect the whole time they are in a session its an individual thing. We are men we get erections pretty simple eh 
    I am not sure why you came off like you did in your reply we are all trying for the same thing here I was just looking for support from other users,. And from the responses on this discussion that's what I have been Primarily getting. Wiki quoteIf it so happens that you're not ready for the Super O there's always the 
    Super-T. Skip right to a traditional penile orgasm (with the Aneros inserted). The Aneros can turbocharge a traditional orgasm (ejaculation). Such orgasms are typically far more intense, produce a greater volume of ejaculate, are of longer duration and are much more satisfying! So if you are not up to a Super O, enjoy a Super T and have no guilt about it. After all, tomorrow is another day.
  • inhopeinhope
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    also erections during sessions is fine if you have them same goes if you don't have them.  Also the wiki is not a 100% accurate a thing, its just a guideline, 90% of the wiki doesn't work or apply to me for example so yeah...

    Check out some videos of guys using the aneros and you will see they have super erections, for some guys when we get prostate swelling/feedback/warmth/movement it results in an erection, it does to me no matter how my focus is away from my penis or of porn. it just is this way it is, though when i get a super erection it does cause the swelling to get 'too much' and then can stop me getting the nice feelings which is frustrating.

    "Skip right to a traditional penile orgasm (with the Aneros inserted). The Aneros can turbocharge a traditional orgasm (ejaculation). Such orgasms are typically far more intense, produce a greater volume of ejaculate, are of longer duration and are much more satisfying! So if you are not up to a Super O, enjoy a Super T and have no guilt about it. After all, tomorrow is another day."

    The above for me is NOT true at all it is the opposite, for me results in a numbed ejacultaion or an average one, i seem to be the only one that this happens to apparently.
  • rumelrumel
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    ChiMan said:

    I am really not in a happy place with this right now,


    Your erectile state has no influence over your ability to experience pleasure using your Aneros massager. Many men have no or minimal erections during their Anerosessions, this is nothing to be concerned about it is just they way you are naturally wired. The fact you are on hypertensive medication could be a huge factor as well, it is well known that such medications often have the effect of elliciting erectile dysfunction. It is also becoming widely known (as you've already read) that frequent/obsessive viewing of pornography alters the brain chemistry exasperating ED problems. Most ED problems are psychological in origin, as such addressing those underlying psychological issues is the solution.
    I suspect you are still tightly holding to a penis centric view of orgasmic generation. This is a very common condition for newbie Aneros users. I strongly urge you to read 'cockadoodle’s thread Penis, NOT and 'rook's thread Whole Body/Whole Mind - the mental side & "zoneros" for a little insight on the paradigm shift in thinking necessary for successful Aneros use.
    While some videos of men using an Aneros do show full erections (many of these also show supplementary stimulation techniques/devices to maintain those erections) there are also videos of men experiencing multiple orgasms with a flaccid penis. IMHO, this annotated video by 'myvidfun' is an example of what a more common Anerosession might look like to the casual observer, no "...super erections..." needed here!
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • inhopeinhope
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    Great advise @Rumel, though that video clearly shows the guy getting a very big erection several times, on and off, his angle of where he is positioned shows it less obviously so, but you can see when the pleasure level rises he gets an erection (if he were standing or kneeling you would see it more clearly)

    Look at time index 15:56 as one example and when his orgasm start at 30:31, its super hard. There are many more examples in the video but i stand by what I'm saying and its evident to see.

    Incidentally this is what happens in my sessions, though my dick goes a little bit harder than his. 

    The other videos online all show erections  I consider it normal if its hard, semi hard and flaccid. None of the videos i refer to show the user touching their member.

    I have been wondering what the aneros does to ones sexual life, what happens to the view of sex and traditional orgasming through that as opposed a super orgasm, it pales in comparison? perhaps this is why you are experiencing ED ChiMan because you find prostate centred orgasms more fulfilling (as does your body)

    Need to lay off the porn as well, even that vid rumel posted to me, now, is considered too much and a distraction. Might be good to watch for the visual bank for sessions later on though :-)

  • ChiManChiMan
    Posts: 29
    Hi All
        I appreciate the support I agree the aneros is great for people with ED and If I never had another erection and just did Aneros I would be in bliss any way.

    But when you have the misses to service ED is a big PITA pardon the pun. We are now mixing anal and traditional sex in our play time but a women needs the erection part as much as most of us would enjoy a good Pegging once in a while from them. 

    I am totally convinced that Porno has had caused my ED. 

    Great news on lunch break today my wife and I went at it and no ED it was Awesome! I am going to keep the abstinence from viewing porn and continue with a couple times a week Aneros sessions no porn just imagination and I think I am on the road to recovery. I have not masturbated to porn for just about a month now slipped up once and was sorry I did. this seems to be working out, I will keep you all posted on my progress and again appreciate the support of our Aneros community.


  • ChiManChiMan
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    Inhope wrote

    I have been wondering what the aneros does to ones sexual life, what happens to the view of sex and traditional orgasming through that as opposed a super orgasm, it pales in comparison? perhaps this is why you are experiencing ED ChiMan because you find prostate centred orgasms more fulfilling (as does your body)

    Sorry missed this

    Yes I agree that  may also have something to do with it but as I had said I am a partner and need to satisfy the other half and when erections don't happen or go down in the middle of heavy encounter getting a flat tire as I call it its not too good.
  • TurnrowTurnrow
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    The literature on Sex and Porn Addiction sets out a 90 day total abstinence period from porn to heal  the neurochemical condition of a porn addicted brain.

    I am sure there are variables in how fast men heal, but I am wishing you the best ChiMan.  Hope you heal quickly and ditch the porn.  It is not reality.   Still further, one third of porn addicts are Intimacy Anorexic.  A book by that name has been written by Dr. Douglas Weiss advising men how to go about healing intimacy anorexia and connecting/reconnecting with their wives in sex. 

    Good luck Man

     

     

  • ineverknewineverknew
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    @inhope, regardless if you get erections, they are not important to success!  I see erections as just a side act that usually happens just because of how good things feel.  Before aneros use anytime I would see something stimulating sexually I would get an erection.  After aneros use when I see something stimulating sexually I feel my prostate come alive first and then if its really good I will get an erection.  Also during my sessions erections tend to be very bothersome and distracting, so for the past month or so I have been purposefully relaxing more when an erection develops which tends to kill it surprisingly, though I'm not all the way there.  By simply focusing more intensely on the prostate and less on your penis the erections seem to diminish.
  • inhopeinhope
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    Thats what i said i my reply ineverknew, it doesn't matter what your dick does in sessions, just s long as your focus isn't there. I was just pointing out that rumel was a little wrong in saying that the guy in the video doesn't have erections or super erections throughout his sessions, he quite clearly does.
  • ineverknewineverknew
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    inhope said:

    from all the videos I've ever seen of successful sessions (not that you should trust the videos all the time or use them as a guide) show guys having a stiff dick, usually though its up and down in relation to the pleasure level they experience. This is true of myself for example.  



    My response was about the the quote above.  I was just making the point that you do not need an erection for a successful session.
  • inhopeinhope
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    Thats what i was saying as well, i said that it does not matter if your dick is hard, semi or flaccid in session as long as you focus on the prostate.
  • ineverknewineverknew
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    @inhope, I probably just misunderstood you then, no biggy.  
  • impimp
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    inhope said:

    from all the videos I've ever seen of successful sessions (not that you should trust the videos all the time or use them as a guide) show guys having a stiff dick, usually though its up and down in relation to the pleasure level they experience.

    Does the guy in this video you referenced (http://www.yuvutu.com/video/1233521/hello-progasm-let-s-go-for-a-ride/) have a stiff dick? Ain't you overstating things a bit?
  • inhopeinhope
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    @imp That guy suffers with ED. Which he has stated on these forums, I'm not overstating anything, I said it doesn't matter weather it's hard or not, but all the videos I've seen the guys have stuff dicks.
  • ChiManChiMan
    Posts: 29
    I have been down for the count sick.

    I have noticed when I am in aneros session the same thing ,I will get hard and flaccid mostly semi flaccid it seems to be part of the experience as everyone has said don't touch it just accept what it does and enjoy the MMOs

    I have not had one for a while being sick.
    No one is going to be home tomorrow night would have been the perfect opportunity for an aneros session
    If by some miracle I feel better. Doubtful though
  • LICNYCgayLICNYCgay
    Posts: 18
    My experience varies. Sometimes I'm hard pretty much throughout the session, sometimes I'm totally soft the entire time. Neither the erection or the soft cock seem to matter to the super Os. They continue to happen regardless of the state of my penis.
  • drstrangedrstrange
    Posts: 28
    I thought I'd add my bit on this subject. In the past before I managed to get where I wanted to, I wasn't having any success apart from nice sensations and  I was always focusing on my penis. Every successive session I've had since has been without an erection or ejaculation, which I don't desire anyway. I never finish myself off with masturbation because I don't want too, it's almost like I have forgotten I have a penis. All my attention is on my anal muscles and my mind and body. I don't watch porn during my sessions anymore because my first success was without it. I find it a distraction. For me to get anywhere I have to be in a quiet dimly lit room with some weed and that's it.
  • inhopeinhope
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    Dstrange I take it you're not in a relationship then?
  • inhope said:

    Dstrange I take it you're not in a relationship then?



    What does that have to do with anything?
  • inhopeinhope
    Posts: 981
    Well, because he says his penis is forgotten about, when in a relationship and trying to rewire it's hard, because you usually then have relations when in a relationship. Involving and focusing on the penis. Just curious was all, doest need to answer, no worries. I see he just meant in sessions he forgets about it, my bad.
  • Don't worry, you can be in a relationship with relations and learn to rewire. It's not either or @-)
  • drstrangedrstrange
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    Happily married for 22 years with a great active sex life.
  • drstrange said:

    Happily married for 22 years with a great active sex life.


    And how much more active after getting an Aneros?
    :-c
  • inhopeinhope
    Posts: 981
    Cool @Drstrange, has it improved your relationship/sex life would you say?
  • I can't speak for @drstrange, but for older gentlemen, between the lose of testosterone and having prostrate issues, it can put a damper on your sex life. I'm almost 50 and I can say it has really woken me up in many ways. 
  • drstrangedrstrange
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    100% improvement in sex and relationship. I'm 51 by the way and the wife is 48.
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 1,008
    @Mostinteresting1 and @drstrange,
    you are but kids, both of you!

    Could wish I was your age with 25 years more enjoyment before reaching where I am!
  • Pommie said:

    @Mostinteresting1 and @drstrange,

    you are but kids, both of you!

    Could wish I was your age with 25 years more enjoyment before reaching where I am!


    I hope I'm still in the game when I get up there in years (a few years)!!
  • MattpMattp
    Posts: 82

    Pommie said:

    @Mostinteresting1 and @drstrange,

    you are but kids, both of you!

    Could wish I was your age with 25 years more enjoyment before reaching where I am!


    I hope I'm still in the game when I get up there in years (a few years)!!




    Me too
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 1,008
    @MostInteresting and @Mattp,
    Take care and look after yourselves!
  • awired50awired50
    Posts: 129
    Well said @mostinteresting1 and @ drstrange! It has had so many positive effects for me. Funny thing I have noticed as I have have erect and flaccid ejaculations as well. I usually wear a cock ring and many times it is 30 minutes afterwards before I notice I am still wearing the ring. It satisfies me to amazing proportions and my penis feels like an accessory to the experience (Not the star).



  • imp said:

    inhope said:

    from all the videos I've ever seen of successful sessions (not that you should trust the videos all the time or use them as a guide) show guys having a stiff dick, usually though its up and down in relation to the pleasure level they experience.

    Does the guy in this video you referenced (http://www.yuvutu.com/video/1233521/hello-progasm-let-s-go-for-a-ride/) have a stiff dick? Ain't you overstating things a bit?




    I'm generally flaccid during my sessions. If I am going for a wet one, I can coax it up and it usually takes me about three penile drys before I load and go. At 70, it takes a few days for me to have anything to ejaculate. Over the last twenty years, I seem to have lost about three inches of my rod into my lower belly fat. It was never small enough to make me self-conscious about it when I was a young free-beacher, erect or flaccid.

    By the way, I've added a pair of documentaries on an 8-hr session with a Eupho Syn on yuvutu.com (search for Aneros). Watching is best on an iPad or a computer with audio into an amp. I can't hear the commentary on my laptop.

  • inhopeinhope
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    The thing is Warren, you are not reviewing the devices  as such in your videos, you are really reviewing what it does to you, a person by all accounts is heavily rewired and has been so for many years by the sounds of it! 

    If i were to buy a eupho or any device you have reviewed and not got the same results... i would be pissed... and confused.

    So what you have are videos that show what these devices might do, not will do and can only really be used as a reference for yourself in your own journey.

    Also it states its a 6 hour journey in your videos, not 8.
  • @inhope YES! You are completely right. I am describing what one man, rewired after more than 40 years after sensuality classes from Maxine Sanini (Rey Anthony) is currently getting from them. (I did omit the lube Hershey squirt on the rug between the bed and bathroom after removing the Progasm after the first ride video). Maybe a year separated from my wife and family by my work, giving me ample time and impetus to learn my body's capabilities like dry nipple orgasms and ejaculating by jacking off a finger. Losing my ejaculations temporarily when taking anti-depressant drugs. ED and obesity, losing inches from my cock into my belly fat. I came to Aneros shortly after I discovered that I could call up a series of immediate no touch mini drys on demand. Here is where my research on multiple male orgasms led me.

    The previously available videos have no audio commentary; I think I can add to new users expectations of possibilities by letting them know what it feels like to me. Perhaps I should make it clearer that what I am showing is purely me, one possible place the journey can pass through. Their mileage will vary.

    It's like fly fishing. A simple system that works, although it requires some expertise. And gaining the expertise is a worthwhile experience in itself, whatever stage you're at.

    The other two hours were taken up by viewing the videos, uploading them to yuvutu, and making some posts with the Eupho Syn still at work. Not together enough to take it out and clean up. Finally did that and collapsed.

    Enjoy the voyage! There's likely to be a fascinating place around the next bend.
  • inhopeinhope
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    Well said Warren, i would further add your comments on the peredise not massaging the prostate again as a personal viewpoint, see my post in the other thread i just made! i think other devices are not only poor in comparison for this purpose but actually detrimental to it as well.