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Help For New Male User
  • zws0401zws0401
    Posts: 1
    Hello all,

    I know there are probably a million of these "help me I'm new" posts, but I really wanted to make a post with my specific details with the hopes that I can get a little help.

    I just bought an Aneros Progasm Black Ice. I have used it twice now but I am not having much luck with having stronger orgasms or increasing the amount of semem I produce.

    I have no problem inserting the device. I'm not tensed up or anything like that and I am certainly open to using it as I bought it of my own choosing, no the pushing of a partner, and I certainly was looking forward to having better orgasms.

    When I put it in, I notice an "intense" feeling about one inch before it comes to it's resting point. Not necessarily "pleasurable" but very noticeable and not a bad feeling. But once the device is seated inside me, it just sits there and no matter whether I do kegels or not, no matter my body positioning or if I move it around with my hand, I don't really get any positive sensations from it. Again, I don't get any negative sensations, just nothing like people rave about online.

    Also, I had planned on using the device while masturbating. When I masturbate, I sit in a padded computer chair in front of my computer. Sitting in the chair, the chair pushes the device upwards further into my rectum and pushes those handles against me. The front handle pushes against my perenium, which quite frankly hurts. I have been thinking about using a saw to remove the front handle, or at least the part that loops upwards.

    Anyway, that is about all I can think to say at the moment. I am certainly open to any and all help, suggestions, advice, etc!

    Thanks in advance,

    zws0401
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 1,178
    Its common to not have any pleasureable feelings in the beginning.  It make take weeks or months of use before those develop.  You need to reach a point where the prostate is awoken.  You will know when this happens as you start getting pleasureable feelings coming from your prostate even when no device is inserted.  Ejaculating with the device inserted is referred to as a Super T or super traditional orgasm.  This is not recommended if you are seeking prostate based orgasms as you are reinforcing the brains response of traditional orgasm during prostate massages.  The ideal way is to have prostate massage sessions with you progasm and then ejaculate some time after your session which help you "rewire" and be able to achieve prostate based orgasms like dry O's and super O's which do not involve any ejaculation.  If you want to keep masurbating with the device in, that is fine but you may find it hard to achieve the aforementioned prostate orgasms.  As for sitting on the device, this is not really recommended but many people do just that.  Try sitting on a pillow or something similar if its a must to sit on it.  If you remove any of the tabs on the device it will no longer work properly as a hands free prostate massager.  Hope that helps.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,443
    Welcome to the Aneros Forum.
    zws0401 said:

    I just bought an Aneros Progasm Black Ice. I have used it twice now but I am not having much luck with having stronger orgasms or increasing the amount of semem I produce. ...and I certainly was looking forward to having better orgasms.

    First things first, patience, Patience, PATIENCE, few users have dramatic results the first few times they use these massagers, especially if they have not had much previous anal play experience.

    Second, since orgasm and ejaculation are separate events, you will need to learn to identify the onset of your orgasms, initially your prostate orgasms may seem underwhelming when compared to the peak release during an ejaculation, but as you tune into yourself and focus on these sensations, over time, the pleasure intensity level of subsequent prostate orgasms will increase to levels higher than your traditional ejaculatory events.

    Third, Aneros use is probably NOT going to change your body's metabolism to start producing more semen, that is more a factor of your overall health and diet than the limited stimulation/massage of your prostate. However, while using your Aneros in a Super-T you are likely to experience a more copious seminal output and fuller draining of your prostate due to the added pressure of the Aneros milking action and the natural spasmodic action lasting longer from the increased stimulation.
    zws0401 said:

    When I put it in, I notice an "intense" feeling about one inch before it comes to it's resting point. Not necessarily "pleasurable" but very noticeable and not a bad feeling. But once the device is seated inside me, it just sits there and no matter whether I do kegels or not, no matter my body positioning or if I move it around with my hand, I don't really get any positive sensations from it.

    This could be simply a case where you have not yet tuned into the subtle sensations of massager usage and have not yet "awakened" your prostate.
    zws0401 said:

    Also, I had planned on using the device while masturbating. When I masturbate, I sit in a padded computer chair in front of my computer. Sitting in the chair, the chair pushes the device upwards further into my rectum and pushes those handles against me. The front handle pushes against my perenium, which quite frankly hurts.

    Your method of usage somewhat defeats the intended design of these massagers. The intended design is for them to move freely within the anal canal/rectum. Sitting on your models pretty much precludes this mobility and puts unintended pressure on the sensitive perineum "sweet spot". There are ways to somewhat mitigate this effect, the simplest would be through the use of a "donut" shaped padded or inflatable seat cushion.
    zws0401 said:

    I have been thinking about using a saw to remove the front handle, or at least the part that loops upwards.

    I would strongly recommend against doing that modification as it defeats one of the important patent design features of these massagers. The P-tab and abutment arm are integral to the proper functioning of the massager and its movement.
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  • isvaraisvara
    Posts: 981
    @zws040, slow down you run too fast, you've got to make the 'morning' last.......
    Insert the Aneros and just relax a bit. It usually takes some time for your prostate to program in the Aneros. The do nothing approach gives it time.
    Trying hard may inhibit the process.
    Edit: I would separate most Aneros sessions and masturbation as they sort of cancel each other out
    Edit: leave the penis alone for most of the Aneros sessions for the same reason.
    Be patient and note the tiny feelings, don't respond to them just observe.
    In this process the Prostate is the master not you.
    Enjoy the whole experience no matter how small.
    Experiment with the lube.
    Don't do anything with the tab, this is critical. Some shorten the tail but wait a while as it is difficult to weld it back on.
    Well for some they get good response early on, many by six months, others,- well for me I am still smelling the flowers after 2 years. But Aneros has changed my whole life for the good.
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 1,008
    @zws0401,
    First up, IMHO you should take serious note of the two post above from @rumel and @isvara. Both of them are providing you with advice that you simply should not ignore.

    From your original post, I gained the distinct impression that you have yet to learn the purpose of Aneros massagers and how they do their work. I think you need to step back from using your Progasm for a while and do a thorough read of the Aneros Wiki so that you can gain an insight into the philosophy behind these magic devices.

    Whoever it was that advised you to start out with a Progasm did you no favours! The fellow who sold me my first Aneros tool tried to persuade me that the Progasm Ice was the only tool worth having and he was dead wrong! It sounds to me as if you might be better off starting with something a little smaller such as an MGX or a Helix.

    I would be interested to see if anyone else would back me on this one!

    I wish you the very best on your journey but also hope that you understand that it is a journey and that there are no instant results.
  • BigOluverBigOluver
    Posts: 254
    Just to add what the other men have already stated just take your time. Theres no ones at the starting lne but you. By forcing the feeling or anticipating so much the body is rejecting the good feelings that need to come naturally. Stay with it and have fun. Also welcome to the journey of orgasming in a whole new way.
  • Armon-neatArmon-neat
    Posts: 254
    Don't use the sitting position at first. Later, you'll be able to do that.  Lie down, on your back with your knees (or just one knee) bent, or try lying off the side of the bed with your knees bent and feet square on the floor.