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  • it took my about 6 months of use before i started feeling pleasure.  I felt some interesting things before that but nothing pleasureable per say.  I use unrefined shea butter right now.  I like to melt it down first as its solid at room temperature.  lube the device and my anus, then insert about 5ml through a lube shooter.  Insert the device and spend the next 5 minutes trying to relax all of my muscles.  Take a few deep breaths and try and focus on nothing but the feeling of the device inside me while still trying to make sure im completely relaxed.  Between 5-10 minutes the involuntaries will kick in on their own, no contractions needed on my end.  From there i just sit back and enjoy focusing on how everything feels while still trying to remain calm and relaxed.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    @ineverknew i find that amazing, that you or indeed anyone can have contractions without you initiating them? how did you teach yourself to do that? or is it automatic? amazing.

    Anyone else?
  • @inhope,  when i started i played around with contractions but never really got anywhere, eventually the involuntaries just started on their own.  The more i practiced the quicker they came on, like my body learned on its own, but it did take time and patience.  
  • PommiePommie
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    @inhope,
    Iv'e sent you another PM. I hope it helps!
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    how do you practise not doing contractions, what you're suing ineverknew is that you practise lying there? I'm confused? ALL my sessions over the last 4 years have involved contractions that I've initiated, just as Mr Mayfeild advises??? its in the aneros stickies here, why am i only just hearing this now?? Also after my most recent session, the following day (yet again) i am experiencing really amazing feelings in the prostate, its sometimes so good I'm sure I'm going to cum! what is that?
  • Well I think they work by relaxing so much that eventually the tug of war between your muscles will start automatically. But you have to practice being extremely relaxed and not tensing up. As for the amazing feelings, just enjoy them for what they are without expecting an outcome (cumming). You have to change your way of thinking. Your penis and ejaculation plays no part in any of this. Eventually those feelings will grow in length and intensity.
  • Also there are two different ways of reaching in voluntaries. The contraction method you said you were following and there is the "do nothing" way which is what I do. Both work but some better for others.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    I've noticed something odd or unusual:

    When i remove a device i get a super charged feeling of orgasm in my prostate, for around 2 seconds and then it goes away. I am squatting when i do this.

    When i insert a device as well i get this feeling for 2 seconds or so and then nothing, not tensing or relaxed does a thing, in session or when squatting.

    Just FYI i HAVE that tug of war thing going on every session, just no feeling from it WHATSOEVER, had it for a year or so now.

    Also when i have a device in and I'm doing nothing or even when i tense, my legs are constantly twitchy, like very twitchy, which increases with how turned on i am, but still no feelings anywhere….?

    I again want to say again that i think my prostate is in a different place to most peoples, i.e. lower down than everyone else's. Is there a device out there smaller than an SGX?

    I have tried squatting when i am in session, and nothing., Sitting too, lying on my sides, back front, upside down and nothing. Nada.
  • Badger
    Posts: 649
    @inhope;

    Have you removed the tail (curlyque) on any of your Aneros'? It's possible that by removing the tail, the Aneros will shift and pivot deeper and more towards the bottom of your PC wall, theoretically making better (i.e., more aggressive) contact with your prostate. Try it on your least expensive model to see if it works any better.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    yep on my MGX and SGX, many years ago too. No effect (other than letting me sit down whilst using it)
  • @inhope,  the only thing smaller then the SGX is the peridise models(i think), though they are not intended as prostate massagers many people including myself do get prostate stimulation from them.  I have even had a dry O from them a few times, not sure how or why.  I have no idea about the super charged feeling or twitchy legs, sorry.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    @ineverknew do you consider yourself to have a prostate in a lower place too? what other devices do you normal use and what ones work the best for you?
  • @inhope,  I have the two set of peridise, helix classic, eupho classic, eupho syn, MGX, and progasm.  They have all given me some sort of prostate pleasure though right now the MGX and progasm are my favorites.  As far as my prostate being lower, i have no idea.  Each device seems to feel differently against my prostate but I can feel all of them.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    btw i have that tug of war that you mention, i just don't feel a thing when it does, had the tug o war every session for years, with no results. I find i would get shards of pleasure that last around 0.5 of a sec when i would relax and grip very very subtly, with no real movement. But again whats the point of that? 
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Just had a session today, not sure why just felt like trying again.

    Something different.

    I noticed right away i was getting the involuntary spasms, ok i had to manually take the device in a few times but it starting going crazy. If you imagine rapidly squeezing your arm, say 4 squeezes a sec was equal to one of these involuntary squeezes i was getting.

    I would feel something, something nice. I found it worked better when i subtly gripped the device.

    I also noticed that when i got an erection (for me its up and down throughout a session, this session was 3 hrs btw!) when i got an erection it would feel reeeeeally nice for 2 seconds or so, same when it went down again at a certain point. I guess there is a muscle in there that the aneros hits when its at a certain level/point of erection/de-erection?

    There was occasions that my erection was so strong that i felt i was going to cum but it didn't happen, i got bored after 20 mins and almost fell asleep, again!

    So against better judgement i put on the porn, i also did very little clenching etc and when watching porn i would get serious aroused, i felt this in my abdomen and pelvis and 'inside' its a sort of 'build-up' or 'fizz' or perhaps an' electricity feeling' and again it was very nice indeed. I also got a really fast heartbeat and other things, i guess this is just because i was turned on?

    Either way the devices i used this session were going crazy at one point i felt my prostate i think, it felt…. cold somehow, a cold sedation when something was touching it. My legs, mores my right than left was twitching like a bat outta hell!

    I stopped the session without cuming this time and now I'm unbelievably horny and feeling very warm feelings in my anus and prostate area! 

    I assume all that is progress?
  • Sounds like great progress!
  • inhope
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    Yeah i think so too, though i can tell you now the pent up honryness I'm feeling now is UNBEARABLE! my balls are pretty huge right now!

    @pommie @ineverknew is the way I'm describing the feelings of build up, the fuzziness or electricity, and the feeling of coldness in the prostate right? am i feeling it right? i need to get away from the porn however its the only thing that REALLY turns me on. I am a very very visual person, my memory simply isn't good enough to do it without!

    also @ineverknew how do you melt your shea butter down? i use that too!

    EDIT: this, as described by B.Mayfeild is almost exactly what i experienced whilst using my erotica/porn, described here:

    " In the course of 20 minutes or so, between this exquisite visual and audio stimulation, the occasional emails and my arousal techniques I found myself becoming tremendously aroused. After a half and hour I was experiencing such intense sexual excitement; my heart pounding, butterflies in the stomach, that I knew that something big was imminent. All the while (as is my practice) I kept directing this sensual energy deeper into my body with mental focus, rhythmic breathing and the occasional contractions. As I tried to hold onto it and concentrate it, some of this energy would actual re-emerge elsewhere as a delightful sensation in a completely different area of my body. It was as if there was too much energy to keep it bottled up for long, much like a cup that was overflowing from being over filled."

    The only difference is that he went on to have multiple earth shattering super O's. oh and all this was aneros-less too!
  • @inhope, this all sounds like good progress.  Your descriptions are very good, and I can relate.  For a long time I only felt a warmer feeling in my prostate but just recently in the last few months have started getting the cold feeling.  The fuzziness/electricity for me feels more like a high vibration, very fast yet subtle.  I am also a very visual person and my prostate does respond very well to visual stimulation but in the end it never amounted to any O's for me even though it felt great.  What I do know is to look at some visual stimulation and then stop watching/looking depending on what it is and close my eyes and start my session, if I get bored or feel things are not progressing I may come back to it to fire things up again.  As for the shea butter, i put that into a small 5oz tupperware container with a lid and microwave it, then let it cool down before insertion.  You can also melt it by running the container under hot water, but that takes longer.  I wonder, has things gotten better since you started using the shea butter you think?  
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Not really, been using it a long while along with lube at the same time too. The device never rally moves a lot for me anyways
  • @inhope, its not going to feel like its moving much for most people.  About 1/8" is about common movement, which isnt much at all, but all it really needs.  Prostate massage is very subtle.  Well whatever it was it sounds like things are moving in the right direction  :-bd
  • Inhope, I'm very glad for you and your progress. Your persistence over such a long time will be an inspiration for all of us.
  • inhope
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    @ineverknew : not according to the video I've seen and the testimony of others, plus mine moves even less than you're saying there ^ and when it does move its not one in and out movement, its lots of little subtle in and outs (about 4 every second) with one tense or contraction. The videos i refers to as well are instructional ones as well and they'll seem to follow the exact same pattern/template

    @euphamistic lets hope it pays off or I've lost a lot of time and money! will keep trying
  • AneRico
    Posts: 215
    Very first thing:  I get a notion I'd like to do a session, so I look at erotic nude imagery and that gets me stimulated.  This normally starts up heavy P-Waves in me.  That's just me.

    2.  Begin to put myself in the mindset of a session.  arrange bed, lay down folded towel, decide which Aneros I'll use.  Think about relaxation, about how I want to reach new highs but also to have NO expectations whatsoever.

    3.  Lube aneros with vaseline.  Lube inside myself if it's one of my larger Aneroses.

    4.  Lie down ensuring I'm neither too warm nor too cold by adjusting covers.

    5.  Pillows prop my knees up.  I'm on my back.  I do 5 medium strength contractions and hold for 5 seconds each.  

    6. First part of session is what I refer to as "Sexy Me Time".  By that I mean I don't look at erotic images or think of women.  What I do is just relax into how I feel and I pay close attention to any sensations that come from the Aneros.

    7.  NOTE:  I am a "do nothing" pratctitioner. IT IS FAR AND AWAY FROM DOING NOTHING.  You have to be a very alert and active observer of any and all sensations.  And you have to actively relax muscles as they tend to contract when a sensation develops.

    8.  Since I get such great results from the "Break Session" method, I take a break just about exactly 20 minutes into the first session.  I get up, Aneros comes out, I walk around the house or go look out the window for a total of a 5 minute break.  Then I resume and each subsequent break comes at about the 45 minute to hour timeframe (NOTHING written in stone here…its VERY flexible).

    9.  Session 2 begins the erotic imagery.  That is what really sets me off.  Each of us must find his own 'aids' to getting turned on.  However, in keeping with the goal of being an active and keen observer, I often have to put down the imagery (close the laptop, or set aside the magazine) so that I can better pay attention to sensations and activity with the Aneros.  Again, I am working very hard (mentally) to relax muscle contractions …and they come from different places at different times so it's work.  I also actively work to encourage any pleasurable feeling to spread over as much of my body as possible and to encourage these feeling to 'shoot out of my hands, feet, head, etc'.

    10.  Super O's usually start with me sometime between 10 minutes into a session to 1 1/2 hours into a session.  heh, not real predictable.  Once the SuperO's start it is much harder to pull myself away for the "break" but I do.  The thing that allows me to 'disengage' like this is NOT discipline (I suck at discipline), what allows me to 'disengage' is that I know what's coming next if I do it; what's coming next is GREATER pleasure.

    11.  If I'm distracted, not focused, or just for whatever reason am having a 'dud' session I will end the session with an attitude of (same as If I have a great session) thankfulness and gratitude.  

    NOTES:

    -during a session I will often move myself around just a little to ensure my back is comfortable, my legs are very relaxed, and that the Aneros is not somehow restricted from movement

    -at no time do I practice any type of contraction method, however, I do contract for about 5 seconds occasionally.  This will stop all pleasurable feelings for me but after I release the contractions I generally get a huge rush of pleasure.  I will even do this occasionally during SuperO's.

    -if the imagery of one girl really 'sets me off' I will continue to look at her for quite a long time…maybe even just one photo for 20 or 30 minutes.  There's a mental/emotion component there which I'm sure helps my session, it is something like "bonding with her".  I find it engages me more in the session.  YMMV

    -anytime I have to pee, I get up and pee.  Again, the "break session" in action…I know I'll get BIG rewards for getting up.

    -it is very important for me to stay very alert to feelings/sensations.  To repeat, "do nothing" is actually a very intense mental exercise that requires your full attention and participation.

    -I experiment a lot with variations in thoughts, 'energy flowing' work, muscle contractions in abdomen, or legs, or arching back…all sorts of little things…asking as I do each thing "does this increase intensity or help propel the next SuperO?".  Often I stumble into little things that I use in subsequent sessions to help the pleasurable sensations to grow.

    -I examine the session as it progresses; "what kind of session is this?"  Is it sharp feelings of pleasure?  Is it low grade bliss?  Is it strong bliss with constant SuperO action?  Is it a dud session?  Is it time to switch devices?  Again, a LOT of mental activity while remaining physically and mentally relaxed and at ease with the process as it unfolds.

    And it *IS* an unfolding.  We cannot force anything.  We can only "allow"; in other words, we allow the device and whatever eroticism we have employed for the session to work on us and do to us what it will.  If I ever begin feeling like 'this has to happen' I've already lost.  I either have to get over that notion, or end the session right then and there.

    I hope this has helped.
  • inhope
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    one thing i don't get about all of that there @AneRico (well three things actually) :

    -looking at a pic for more than 5 mins for me is too long, its boring and gets old fast. i need lots of vids/pics

    -if i disengage the visual stimulation and don't use any, the feelings go away, i seem to need constant visual imagery to remain aroused and active down there.

    -the vids I've posted show guys putting an aneros in, 10 mins - 30 mins later its super O city, no porn, no nothing. Just works. Automatically. I don't get it. Unless they are faking it? i suspect there are some 'promo' videos out there to increase sales for the aneros by the company….
  • @inhope, involuntaries are not always consistent, i wouldnt worry about that.  As for the distance of 1/8" thats kinda a guess, im assuming most people havent actually measured it, as if that is even possible.  
    You need to stop comparing yourself to others and these "videos".  Everyones journey is singular to themselves and not going to be exactly like others.  I am somewhat successful with my aneros use and have yet to see a video the depicts what I am doing during a session.  No worries, enjoy whats happening and press on.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Again i refers you to the comments i made some time ago regarding experiences and proper usage of the aneros and the fact that this site is the ONLY place that tells you how to use it correctly. The piece of paper in the aneros box is NOT clear enough nor does it it give realistic expectations of how to use it.

    The videos were literally the first thing i found when googling it! 

    When i got my first aneros, years ago, i used it in a very dangerous way, because there was no guide at all. Its just sheer luck i googled aneros forums and got the right answers.

  • AneRico
    Posts: 215
    As ineverknew said, everyones journey is singular to themselves….

    -if you need lots of vids/pics then do that
    -if you need constant imagery then do that
    -I can put an Aneros in and be SuperO'ing in 5 minutes sometimes.  So what?  That's me.  That's not you.  

    Aneros is not so much about what you DO as it is about what you SURRENDER TO and ALLOW.   

    I wish I had the 'magic bullet' or 'magic formula' for this.  It is very vexing to not be able to tell someone "do this, this and this and you will SuperO".

  • AneRico, I'm bookmarking your detailed description of how you approach your session for future reference. I recognize lots of nuggets there and picked up even more. Not that I'm going to copy your practice, most of the things I already do in my own way. Except the super O part. But as a total approach it puts a lot of things together according to my experience and the consensus of many here. So it's a good blueprint for the way to proceed and allows room for experimentation IMO.

    Inhope, you say "when watching porn i would get serious aroused, i felt this in my abdomen and pelvis and 'inside' its a sort of 'build-up' or 'fizz' or perhaps an' electricity feeling' and again it was very nice indeed. I also got a really fast heartbeat and other things, i guess this is just because i was turned on?". yes and no. It happened because your prostate was being massaged, it was responding and becoming sensitive, and you were turned on while this was happening, amplifying the arousal IMO. Remember these feelings and the way your prostate felt, and let that be your guide, not some anonymous video. Your attitude can be your best friend or your best enemy.

    There's no way you could ever sense contractions at 4 per second, physically impossible. Nor sense the distance the aneros is moving except in a very general way. I think our perceptions become more relative when we enter our bodies with our minds. Don't try to measure as much as notice the landmarks and be open to surprising new landmarks. Suspend disbelief at least during the session.

    It's generally necessary to question assumptions and healthy up to a point. Try questioning your assumption that the aneros company and all the men who have given you advice, are just trying to market a cheap plastic sex toy. Isn't it much more likely that this is an irrational assumption that you need to face?
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    the contractions are rapid for me, not a steady and recognisable in and out and if I'm being realistic i would say the contractions are 3 a second, minimum. Its almost like my prostate is super excited and the device is massaging it benny hill speed (i am NOT shitting you about this btw) its always been this way, always. But until yesterday, i got no pleasure from doing it.

    The problem with the aneros is there is no real user guide or rather there is limited literature in the form of things to try when things don't work so you end up doing the same things that don't work over and over or worse you start getting frustrated and doing things that might damage your prostate.
  • Okay I believe you that the aneros is vibrating very fast.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    nooo, i didn't say 'vibrating' i said it moves/contracts very fast with each 'grip' or contraction, or rather that my muscles are making it move fast as the former would suggest the aneros has a life of its own rather than an inanimate object.

    When i contract my muscles, the 'tug of war' between the muscles, if its done strongly enough the device goes into overdrive, it feels like each time i 'hold' it in the device is in and out (remember it doesn't come out much, very subtly) very, very rapidly, even when i try to stop it doing so, its something i DO NOT like and WANT to stop as it 'overloads' any kind of detection of subtle feelings i may be getting, but this is the way it's always been.
  • AneRico
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    Thank you, Euph.  I appreciate your complimentary words.
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Ive had another session since, when the fizzing or whatever rises or the heightened arousal, whatever you want to call it happens i notice that, well, nothing happens i just get turned on and then….. it stops each subsequent one is then half as long and half as nice.

    Sadly i tensed too hard after 2 hours of waiting for something to happen and ejaculated, couldn't help it or stop it, just happened. Why does nobody else have this happen? the orgasm is almost always CRAP, its like the aneros is muffling the feelings, however the build up is rather nice, but nothing special.
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    inhope,

    I'm new to the forums, but just read this post (longer than I expected when I clicked on it). It sounds like you are making good progress. For the previous week, it felt like I was going to cum, but didn't. It was kind of frustrating. Last night, I had some dry orgasms. So if you feel like you are right there, you might very well be.

    In my limited experience, any tensing at all will kill the involuntary contractions your body is doing. The more you want it, the worse it gets. You should probably just focus on the involuntaries that are happening and the pleasurable sensations you are getting, and try to amplify them WITHOUT tensing or any affirmative action on your part.

    As far as where your prostate is. I have a crystal wand I use for CPPS work. It's much longer than the Aneros, but easy to use to feel around. Perhaps you can buy one so you can find out exactly where your prostate is and what it feels like when pressed. I can't really feel the Aneros on my prostate much at all while using it, but I know it's doing stuff. With the wand, I can actually push directly on it (it hurts when pushed - and makes me feel like I'm squeezing my urethra too hard, like a pinch at the top of the penis). A little self exploration may make you discover some useful muscle groups around the prostate.

    Overall, it sounds like you are building pleasurable feelings now. Have you tried dozing off with the feelings intact? I know that's hard to do, but yesterday, I dozed off while having an Aneros-less session, and I ALMOST had a prostate orgasm when I started drifting off. It was as if I totally let go, and that's when my body decided to do it. Perhaps you can do some relaxation once you get yourself close to coming; just stop, and then put on a relaxation and breathing CD. If you can distract yourself and relax, perhaps you'll discover some new sensations. But ultimately, I think you want to be paying attention to your session rather than distracting yourself from it. You'll want to relax into the pleasure (however small) and just focus on it with breathing and low tension.

    Also, I learned that porn is distracting. Once I get sufficiently awoken, I need to turn it off, otherwise I can't focus on the session or relax enough.
  • inhope
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    interesting @mdad can i just ask, do you use porn every time to get 'awoken' then switch it off? i find doing this method kills things for me, just dead. I need to start without porn i think but somehow be turned on as much as watching it...
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    inhope, no, I don't look at porn to start my sessions for the most part. It is far too distracting, and I don't relax while doing it. I want my mind to drift into the sensations of the aneros, not actively looking to hop on the next thing that shows up on my screen. I can see how turning it off mid-stream can be a big mood killer if you were basing your arousal solely on it.

    One thing that I have noticed is that looking at porn makes me focus on penile sensations, and not prostate sensations. I think it activates the very thing I'm trying to not activate.

    One thing I've done is look at porn for a few minutes, then put it away, wait a couple minutes to establish some separation, and then start the Aneros session. From then on, I just close my eyes.

    As a side note, I've found that reading about sex allows my prostate to become far more aroused than looking at pictures. For example, I'll type in a search in google such as "favorite sexual experience" or "first time experience" or something like that, and read people's posts. This gets me very aroused. But it is more of an emotional arousal than a visual one. It's qualitatively different, and I feel it more in my prostate. I find it easier to transition to the Aneros from this than looking at pictures.
  • inhope
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    This is a great suggestion, i am going to try that @mdad, thanks!
  • inhope
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    Also do you tense your legs at all or tense the device? i often find when i do nothing i realise after a time that I'm tensing, it seems to require effort not actively not tense or on occasion push the device out a little to fight against the involuntary tensing of the muscle.

    Also how long do you leave it between sessions? do you let things build for a certain time?
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Do you tense or just do nothing?
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    I generally do nothing. I have not found tensing to do anything more than kill whatever involuntary contractions I was having. I might do tiny micro-clenches, but other than that, I try to do nothing. I actively try to keep my muscles from having spasms (the big jolts on top of the involuntaries), as those seem to have the same effect as intentional clenches. I probably am doing "something" by focusing on keeping the muscles from seizing up, but it's mostly in my mind.
  • AneRico
    Posts: 215
    mdad said:

    I generally do nothing. I have not found tensing to do anything more than kill whatever involuntary contractions I was having. I might do tiny micro-clenches, but other than that, I try to do nothing. I actively try to keep my muscles from having spasms (the big jolts on top of the involuntaries), as those seem to have the same effect as intentional clenches. I probably am doing "something" by focusing on keeping the muscles from seizing up, but it's mostly in my mind.



    As I said in my post (above):

    "7.  NOTE:  I am a "do nothing" pratctitioner. IT IS FAR AND AWAY FROM DOING NOTHING.  You have to be a very alert and active observer of any and all sensations.  And you have to actively relax muscles as they tend to contract when a sensation develops."
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Today i made progress. After 4 years. 

    Every session i have now i feel 'something', not an orgasm or anything but a nice feeling, this is something i did not experience for 3.5 years, i felt nothing. I changed nothing, it just started to happen.

    I had an experience today where i felt like i was experience the build up to an orgasm and it held at a sort of plateau for around 10 secs, felt great and then went away. There were times where the prostate and muscles would take over and the device would speed up, which kinda killed the feelings. I have to battle against it to force it to relax!

    I came with a traditional orgasm, and it was very very nice. The feelings in my prostate are still quite nice even now some hours later, a nice warm/hint of orgasm feeling to it.

    I used the SGX and Eupho today,with the eupho i felt the almost 'orgasm' 
  • ineverknewineverknew
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    good to hear.  how do you like the SGX?  
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    I've owned it for years.... It's as good as any other aneros toy, they're all the same. I cannot say one is better than the other until i experience more pleasure
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Quite frustrated at the moment, each session I have feels good, at least for a few mins and then no feelings at all. out of session I getting feelings like I'm about to explode with orgasm but never does. Lasts for hours that.

    Anyway back in session I feel like a newbie again, if I do nothing it feels good after a while but then stops. So when that happens I gently coax the device to move which generates a rather impressive erection and some great prostate feelings and then it makes my legs tense which I dont want because it means I will just cum normally, so I have to force my legs to not tense, it's weird.

    Gently moving the device seems to be the way, is there a guide people here use other than b mayfields one? Strong motions kill it for me, but small ones actually fatigue me more but produce better results. I need some new things to try to get those feelings back, it always feels I'm on the edge of an orgasm, which makes me worked up, so I end up having one traditionally because after a while it's just too much.

    in my defence: you try being on the edge of orgasm for 2 hours, let's see how you do!

    Edit: small movements seem to produce nice feelings I'm so very close......


    I also just found an education video on the aneros it must be BS though? as the device works within 30 secs on the guy and other weird stuff like she talks like it will work first time, no 'rewiring process', though it's helped me to visualise how I could use the device better. Here it is:

    http://www.youporn.com/watch/487398/learn-all-the-enjoyable-things-to-do-with-his-prostate/


    Edit: having a super session before and getting somewhere, trying new techniques etc and I decide to tense a little harder, this killed it. Dead. Pleasurable sensations wouldn't return no matter what I did. Is that normal?
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    in my defence: you try being on the edge of orgasm for 2 hours, let's see how you do!

    You are seriously CLOSE! I know I've been lucky to not be at that stage for very long (a week), but that was the last hurdle for me.

    In fact, I just wrote a post about my edge, and I determined it was the point where I was forcing things to try to happen and the point where things just started to happen on their own. So, if I were you, I'd try to relax when that edge is near, and just enjoy feeling yourself at that point. Pay attention to how your body holds that edge even when you aren't trying. And try to enjoy that knowledge. I guess I'm trying to say, don't work so hard to get over the edge. If you are going to work hard at anything, just work hard at trying to relax and keep your body at the tipping point. Almost like you are trying to cruise at 55MPH and keeping your foot ever so lightly on the gas peddle, but not really pushing. You are just maintaining with little effort.

    Also, when you are at the edge, your body is sort of having an orgasm right there, just focus on that, and how the feeling at the tip of your penis stays sharp. At that point, imagine moving blood from the base of your penis right out to the top. Shoot the blood out the tip in your mind (gross, I know).

    And most of all, RELAX. Stop worrying about past failures, future failures, and what you want to happen now. None of that baggage or expectation is going to help you.  Just enjoy what you are having; it's way better than the NOTHING you had before. :)
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    Agreed, I need to find a way to stop my penis taking over, it gets *so* hard during this point and I have to really think away from that area to get sensation, however it's difficult because it's so hard it causes tension in the skin and muscles connected to everything's which detracts sensation. I'm talking HARD, so much so it hurts a little!

    How long between sessions should I do it, bare in mind I ejaculated at the end of this one..... I was just too horny after 3 hours of being on the edge... Didn't need porn that time, believe me (side note: the load I blew was epic! Didn't feel better than normal but it was a huge load!)
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    I had one of my best sessions ever after having sex with my wife. So I don't know if ejaculation abstinence makes that much of a deal to prostate sensitivity or not. But everyone is different. You'll have to find your own balance there.

    Do you wear underwear when doing the aneros? Sometimes I find that wearing underwear, or being beneath the blankets, can rub on my penis and cause penile stimulation when I don't want it to. If I can, I like to take my underwear off, and move the blanket off me (or make a teepee) so that NOTHING is touching my penis at all.

    As to where to focus? I think you are probably OK. Have you ejaculated hands-free? Usually it feels like I am, but I just get dry orgasms. So unless you are having a problem of having wet orgasms instead of dry ones, you are probably OK not worrying about denying yourself ejaculation before using your Aneros.

    If I was going to focus on anything penile related, I'd focus on trying to move waves of muscle contractions and blood flow from the root to the tip. Imagine the pleasure waves going from base and shooting out at the end.

    And then also realize that the edge that you are at is just about it. It will get a little more intense, but you will not get that rolling over a cliff feeling you get from a normal wet ejaculation. With the dry orgasm, the edge feeling gets stronger and stronger, then backs off, and then comes back again. But you won't get a bunch of muscle contractions with it. As I said in my earlier post, when you are at this point, you have to relax and just realize that you are there; your body is there; and you just have to enjoy being there at that spot. When you can find yourself breathing slowly and relaxing, and the edge pleasure still being maintained, you've just about got it. Just hold it there as long as you can, and eventually, when the next round of contractions come, it will go just a little higher each time. And once you relax and enjoy that point, the "almost there" feeling becomes far more pleasurable and intense. Forget the work and enjoy the benefits!
  • inhope
    Posts: 286
    When I'm clothed I less aware if my penis, when I'm naked I notice. How do you make a tipi??

    I was more concerned with why the feelings stopped and wouldn't return all of a sudden? Did you watch the video as well?

    I'm also experiencing the edge feeling out of session, for many hours without trying, sounds great yeah? After 4 hours it's actually a problem
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    How do you make a tipi??

    Hehe I just mean lift the covers up at that spot so it's not touching you, so there'd be a raised point where your penis is. Depending on what kind of blanket you have, this may or may not be possible.

    I'm also experiencing the edge feeling out of session, for many hours without trying, sounds great yeah? After 4 hours it's actually a problem

    Again, I'm going to go with the "you are getting close" argument. Your prostate is stimulated, and it is getting more active, so this happens. Do a search on the forums for Aneros-less sessions, and you'll see how many people's prostates get out of control when they first start having success. I know mine is. Driving in the car is a whole new experience.

    I guess, as frustrating as it is, it means you are getting close. Unfortunately, your body seems to be moving a glacial pace through all the stages, and therefore your edge stage is going to be longer than normal, too. I think you are close though!