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What is the Aneros really hitting?
  • I'm sure we've all seen this picture before, depicting the Aneros' position when inserted. image

    However, I was thinking about what the bigger models might look like when inserted, and some questions arose. Considering that the Helix is about 3 inches insertable length, and the Progasm is about 4 inches--that gives an extra inch that, according to the diagram above, the Aneros would jut in the rectal wall.

    However, it seems to me that the real story might be more like this: When you pull your legs up, the Aneros has more freedom to rock backwards and lie more parallel to the anterior anal wall, rather than pushing into it at that 30 degree angle. This would result in contact up along the back of the bladder from the head of the Aneros, while the middle sections are rubbing all along that wall, possibly "nestling" the prostate between the two humps of the toy.

    I could be wrong: The alternative is that as you use longer toys, there is simply more compression of the prostate and the bladder. perhaps what results is a massage of the upper part of the prostate, the part that contacts the bladder. Perhaps the Aneros deforms the wall of the bladder such that it gets contact along that upper surface.

    Thoughts?
  • slimjm
    Posts: 497
    Don't measure the length of the stem from the base to the tip in an attempt to compare models. Rather, make a note of the level at which the stem of any particular model "rests" in your anus and measure from there to the tip. In my experience they are fairly comparable in "length" when measured that way with the possible exception that the Eupho, my personal favorite, is slightly longer so that when it is drawn in with an involuntary contraction it can reach higher up on the prostate and toward the seminal vesicles, thus accounting for this model's incredible mobility.
  • airbagairbag
    Posts: 116
    I would actually pay money to have a big set of pictures for different Aneros positions. As for Progasm, it looks like it has a different shape than Helix.
  • cali5
    Posts: 5
    Anyone have an answer to this? if the prostate is only 2-3 inches, why is the insertions of the helix 4 inches, and the progasm 4.5 inches? What is it hitting with this much insertions length?
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    cali5,

    'slimjm's answer to this is correct and what 'MindTravels' didn't really note is that the illustration is really just a symbolic diagram, In actuality there are no voids in the colon, rectum or bladder as illustrated. Those organs all are collapsed, flexible membranes which expand to accommodate the materials flowing through them. The organs basically float around in an aqueous mucus environment supported by pelvic floor and other body muscle groups.

    To a certain extent those organs are free to move around a bit as they perform their functions, e.g. as the bladder fills, it displaces the rectum a bit and gravity adds to this displacement downward compressing the prostate and giving you that "need to pee" feeling. Similarly, some men have reported seminal fluid discharge as a result of having particularly strong bowel movements as feces moves through the rectum putting pressure against the prostate and providing a prostate milking like action.

    Your body position can also affect the location of your organs due to gravity, laying on your side, laying on your back with a pillow under your butt, kneeling over a foot stool or standing are all likely to change the relative distance of your prostate to your anus and thus affect the way your Aneros massager interacts with you. There is also some variability in individual anatomy which would affect your massager's interaction.

    IMHO, the Aneros lineup of differing models accommodates all these differing configurations remarkably well. If one model is overshooting the prostate then another model may be a better fit.

    Ironically, once you have fully awakened your prostate, nearly any model can lead you to a Super-O and if you are really experienced and attuned to your body, you can have a Super-O with no Aneros at all !

    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • "...once you have fully awakened your prostate, nearly any model can lead you to a Super-O and if you are really experienced and attuned to your body, you can have a Super-O with no Aneros at all 

    That all is certainly my experience.  I can't very well feel or experience the differences in all the models, and i have almost all.  I just experience each session, no matter which model i use, better than the last one.  I do have my favs, like the larger ones that give me a fuller feeling, since i like to fantasize they are a cock. Perhaps an exception to what i said about all models seeming to have more or less no difference in results, with one of my newest purchases, the Tempo, it is likely i will not use again the 4 Peridise models i have.  It somehow seems to have more kick to it, most likely given the material  it is made of rather than plastic.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    My Eupho experience closely supports the ideas of Rumel and Slimjim.  I usually swap down to Eupho following a brief Maximus session.  The 'overture' with Max aims at spreading lube and getting rectally 'streched out.' 

    After inserting Eupho I quietly meditate then relax, breathe and listen.  Then, Eupho seems to "peek" into nooks and crannies, probably guided by involuntary reactions that seek to maximize the perceived pleasure or revisit sensitive spots.

  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I am thinking very seriously of using the Maximus very soon. So how would the Maximus figure in the answering of the thread question? BTW, I also have a Eupho and Progasm which I eventually want to use also!

    Thom./BigGlansDC


  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,484
    Great discussion men!!

    Agree with everything you said rumel!! Excellent!! I have all the models, and find each a very different ride, butt all essentially hitting the key target very well ( except Helix: yet Syn is fantastic!!!)  Member alv did a photo comparison of all models then available a coup;le of years ago, and it showed all models being essentially very similar lengths. BGDC, Eupho and Progasm Ice are two of my favourite models!! All the very best with yours!

    artform

    as we rewire we are all reconnected

  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Hi artform,

    Can you tell us what is so special about Progasm Ice? I am curious to know! Thank you!

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,484
    Hi BGDC!!

    The acrylic surface seems to me to be significantly smoother and slicker than the standard aneros plastic of the standard Progasm models. My Ice is SO slick when lubed even lightly that it goes into easy auto*F action and triggers fantastic orgasms at many levels!!! It is exceptionally mobile for such a "filling" model!

    On another tack altogether, being clear it lets light into my ano-rectal canal, and since our complementary symbiotic gut and rectal bacteria may do some communication by light emissions, this may also tickle their fancy!! 

    All the very best with your chosen models and journey!!

    artform

    as we rewire we are all reconnected

  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Hi artform,

    I was ordering a couple things earlier this afternoon from Amazon and you jogged my memory because I had intended then to order an Progasm Ice! Well your post sold me a few minutes ago! I just ordered a Progasm Ice from Amazon for a mere $41.00 (shipping and handling included)! It should arrive here at my address next Thursday August 9!

    Thom.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Artform,

    Communicating bacteria?  :).   Artform, you are too much fun.   So tell us more about this type of  illumination....how do you achieve this ano-rectal light show?


  • Tomasheen
    Posts: 181
    I know plenty of guys who really believe that light shines out their asses! Alas, they are all a bit dumb!
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Tomasheen,

    Certainly, that is anything but the case with Artform.  He is without a doubt one the forum's most venerable and erudite members.  So much so, that if the man says he has light in his rectum... I am inclined to believe it!!  Then again, he is a master of the metaphor and given to using a well placed tongue-in-cheek on occasion.   We'll just have to see what turns up here.  ;-)

    BF Mayfield
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    @B Mayfield,

    While I agree with you this could be 'artform' having a little fun with us or it could be a bioenergetics metaphor.

    I've read in some spiritually oriented articles that we (human beings) are "beings of light" and from the Bible, "Then God said, 'Let there be light'; and there was light." The fact of Bioluminescence makes it entirely plausible we could have bioluminescent bacteria living in our G.I. tracts.
    The song "This Little Light of Mine" takes on a whole new meaning in that context. Joy3
    In any event, if the Progasm 'ICE' is tickling the fancy of our bacteria with external light transmissions, perhaps that provides added resonance to orgasmic pleasure waves, who knows?
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,484
    Well BigGlansDC, B Mayfield, Thomasheen and rumel!!!!!

    Look what an innocent aside has generated!! :D All I meant was having a largish clear acrylic object well inside one's rectum and protruding outside through one's anus was bound to let a little light into one's insides there... :D

    I have directed my south face into sunlight and moonlight (during some solo Full Moon Club events) comfortably ensconced on our Liberator ramps and wedges et al... So much for that light penetration enabling :D So I said what I said without any doubt about light entering via Ice...

    Before we begin on the subject of light emitting bacteria and communications, I invite all of you, and anyone else intrigued, to post in reply here what percentage of you (your complete body) is you (cells with your DNA) by living organic mass?

    While you are contemplating your self-image and your answer here is an actual orgasmic light experience to contemplate. KSMO Jack (Hydraulic Jack being his Anerosian identity) and Pan, a fellow Anerosian and multiple-practice guy too, and I have all had this experience, so I am not talking through my Crown Chakra! :D

    In the midst of penile vaginal intercourse with my wife, and it being a highly charged energies exchange session with energies orgasms shared back and forth between us, I felt a unique high charge build and WOW/FLASH/BLIND??? ENORMOUS ENERGIES PLEASURES EXPLOSION ECSTASIES and mrs. a and I experience a flash of extraordinarily bright light orgasm shooting from me all over the exterior and throughout my penis into mrs. a's vagina, and I suspect G-spot/prostate and elsewhere throughout her.

    Like all energies orgasms, this does not feel like an ejaculation at all; they are almost infinitely variable and a whole other level of sensations. In the Tantric tradition, these light orgasms are known, and perhaps in others as well.

    More about our bacteria symbionts, and others, and further light fantastics!!! After you post your percentage!!!

    Art

    PS You are all too kind ;)

  • I haven't the slightest idea what you just said...

    But to quote one of my favorite movie quotes:

    I'll have what he's having....



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  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I am still very curious about where the Aneros Maximus fits in this question. For those of you who have used the Maximus, what is it really hitting? Certainly your prostate, I am sure. But what other parts of your sexual anatomy does it hit?

    Thom./BigGlansDC, who hopes to use his Maximus later on today for the first time!
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,484
    Hi BGDC!!

    Between your prostate and the inner sphincter of your anus are situated the "bulb" root of your penis right behind the rectal muscle wall there, and then your Cowper's Gland source of pre-cum, just before your prostate. Above the prostate are your seminal vesicles, which make most of the semen fluids/gels. Your prostate makes about 1/3 of your cum volume.

    The curved sculpted mid-body of many aneros models can stimulate your penis bulb and your Cowper's gland. Max plays very nicely with all your parts in this list!!  If the aneros tip reaches higher than your prostate, it may stimulate your seminal vesicles. Many guys notice increased pre-cum using the larger aneros models in particular.

    I never had any pre-cum until I became a regular user of the Progasm Ice!! Now most of my aneros models stimulate increasing pre-cum amounts, when I am going for a BPH therapy session particularly!!

    Hope that helps BGDC. So, enjoy your penis root and Cowper's men!!

    artform

    as we rewire we are all reconnected


    PS Cum on guys; guess how much of "you" is "you"!!!!!??
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I had my very first session with the Maximus early last evening and it was wonderful! I hope to post a more detailed account later on today.

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    I've done the most radical of 'de-tailings' on my Maximus, turning it into a rather specialized tool.   The entire tail is now gone,  with only a smooth nub left.  As a result, the tool settles into the anterior wall of the rectum and does the job artform describes, and quite well.  When sucked in heavily the 'nub' is just inside the outer sphincter and massages the posterior of the anal canal.

    The downside of this modification is that the toy lacks lateral stability (centering) and tends to have a lot of "road wander."   So, prostate contact is intermittent and it no longer behaves as would a 'stock' Maximus.

    Nice filling sensation and good for expanding the nooks and crannies of my den of pleasures, readying it for Dame Eupho's dance.


  • KeokeKeoke
    Posts: 67
    I'm going broke with these things -- but I don't play golf, so what the hey!   :-)   I started with the Progasm last November and it was too big for a beginner; ordered the Helix but didn't get much use because of the holidays and guests until the first of the year; ordered the MGX because the Helix was too aggressive (hey, I'm a sensitive guy); ordered the Syn because of all the praise, but still prefer the MGX. Then -- finally getting to the point -- ordered the Maximus last week. 

    For now, I'm most pleased with the MGX for relaxing, longer sessions, and the Maximus for a fuller feeling but still effective. Which goes to show what you guys stress to everyone: we're all slightly different. 

    I'm 6'!" and slim, but that may not explain entirely the preferences I've found between the versions I've tried. Just thought I'd throw that out for anyone contemplating his next (or first) Aneros.