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Pros and Cons of Natural Jelly
  • Rumel

    I have to agree with you that your natural jelly recipe is the best lube that I haver ever tried and believe i have tried many types in hopes of fulfilling everyone dream ...hit the Big O....
    I do have one question ....what are the pro and cons in continuing to use the lube until it is used up
    I have noticed that this lube continues to stay in the same condition when i first make it even though it is much older....Is there any danger in using this older lube...
    what about mixing it together with a newer batch....
    what is the shelf life of this wonderful discovery

    ps..the pleasant odor of this lube really enhances each session


  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    larime,

    I'm glad you like the 'Natural Jelly' lube too. Your question about shelf life is a good one but unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer for you. I'm still using a batch I whipped up about 4-5 months ago and it seems to be exactly the same as I remember it at the beginning.

    I use almond oil as the main ingredient, I would assume the shelf life of the mix would approximate that of the oil used. I've tried other oils (olive, coconut & canola) but I like almond oil the best because I can also use it as a good massage oil. So far the original bottle of almond oil is still fine and it is nearly two years old now and been stored in a cupboard at room temperature the whole time, I haven't noticed any degradation.

    What I believe is the key ingredient is the beeswax. Beeswax is really a remarkable compound that has been used by humans for millenia for a great variety of purposes. It has some remarkable properties that really defy degradation. Beeswax rings for seals for toilets may last a hundred years or more if left undisturbed. Beeswax was used as one of the components for preparing Egyptian mummies for preservation. It is highly resistant to bacteria and doesn't promote absorption by water, it is used as an emollient for lip balms, skin lotions and other cosmetics. It being a totally natural wax with no apparent associated toxicity makes it an excellent component for a safe, long lasting lube that does not seem to get absorbed by the rectal lining. I think the beeswax component can extend the shelf life of this lube indefinitely but just to be on the safe side I think one should only mix up batches sufficient to last no more than a year.

    Since the cost of mixing up one of these batches is significantly less than purchasing some of the common commercial lubes, I would not recommend combining it with an older batch unless you intend to boil the whole lot to pasteurize it.

    The only cons I see with this lube are :
    1.) It is not as slippery, slick as the commercial lubes but this doesn't bother me in the least.
    2.) It has a real tenacity to hold a film on the Aneros surface (this is good for retained lubrication purposes) which makes using soap, hot water and a soft scrub material necessary for a thorough clean-up.
    3.) Because it is an oil based lube, materials which come in contact with it may become stained and/or difficult to clean.

    P.S. Any odor is largely dependent upon the oil being used as the beeswax doesn't have any odor I can detect.
  • I find it irritating that when I click on the underlined it doesn't pull it up, but goes to home page. I have found this happening since the return after the hacking. So how can I find the recipe for the natural? Thank you.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    paulsp,

    I don't know why that link is not working but try this link for a rather long thread discussion of various lubrication issues and the Natural Jelly formula.
  • [QUOTE=rumel;48242]paulsp,

    I don't know why that link is not working but try this link for a rather long thread discussion of various lubrication issues and the Natural Jelly formula.

    Thank you, rumel. Found it. Where do u get bees wax?
  • isvara
    Posts: 588
    One great advantage of Natural Jelly is that you can alter its consistency in the making of it. (summer or winter mix!!)
    I use a high Beeswax mix for putting on the aneros and have a less viscous mix that I use as a prelube or I just use the oil. (I have used Walnut, Castor or Sweet Almond in the mix. Our Olive oil will stain yellow I think)
    My certified organic bees wax does have a very nice bouquet it adds to the scent of the oil which I can barely smell. It is a light yellow in colour and smells like honey. I suppose it is depended on the flowers the bees visit and the processing.
    My mixes haven't altered consistency or smell in 4 months.
    I works well with acetal (MGX) and silicone (H-SYN)

    Its good stuff
  • [QUOTE=isvara;48244]One great advantage of Natural Jelly is that you can alter its consistency in the making of it. (summer or winter mix!!)
    I use a high Beeswax mix for putting on the aneros and have a less viscous mix that I use as a prelube or I just use the oil. (I have used Walnut, Castor or Sweet Almond in the mix. Our Olive oil will stain yellow I think)
    My certified organic bees wax does have a very nice bouquet it adds to the scent of the oil which I can barely smell. It is a light yellow in colour and smells like honey. I suppose it is depended on the flowers the bees visit and the processing.
    My mixes haven't altered consistency or smell in 4 months.
    I works well with acetal (MGX) and silicone (H-SYN)

    Its good stuff

    And where do you get beeswax?
  • isvara
    Posts: 588
    Well that could be a problem. Depends where you live.
    I get mine from from a bee keeper. Some countries have few hives and honey is imported - so no bees wax. I buy a kilogram for AU$18. (10 years supply!) the website is
    http://www.beehappy.com.au/index.htm
    This is for you information re beeswax so you can ask the right questions locally.
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 732
    paulsp,

    I bought some beeswax from an organic fresh food and health food shop.

    I imagine there would be some equivalent type of store in your part of the world.

    Happy hunting!
  • [QUOTE=Pommie;48253]paulsp,

    I bought some beeswax from an organic fresh food and health food shop.

    I imagine there would be some equivalent type of store in your part of the world.

    Happy hunting!

    That is a good lead, Pommie. Yes, there are such places in the Albuquerque area. I've looked into raw honey once at one of them. Super expensive, and I imagine the wax, too, would be. Might well be worth it though. Bees have been dying off, I think mostly because killer bees have gotten into the country. The bears have come down from the mountains because of fires up above. Some friends had hives on my property and a bear tore them to pieces.