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Should I buy the KSMO CD
  • Max
    Posts: 10
    Hey guys,

    I've been here for a long time and have had limited success with a the MGX & Helix. So close sometimes, but it still seems so far other times. I've been taking fish oil for a couple months now, and I think it's helping, but still no super O. I've seen KSMO mentioned many times and was just wondering if it would be worth purchasing. Is it really effective? I've seen it out there for years and have thought about it, but never took the plunge. At this point the Aneros is giving great sensations, but I can't seem to get over the edge. Does anyone think KSMO could help to get there? If so, is it necessary to buy the second package for $129, or is the introductory CD for $69 sufficient to learn the technique? It seems like it's doing the same (or similar) "re-wiring" process that we are all trying to acheive. Is this true? Any input is greatly appreciated as always.
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hi Max,

    I can only speak from my experience and that it did help me. To be fair, I was Super Orgasmic before I started KSMO, but I feel that it enabled me to get to a much broader level that is truly more "full body" than I experience with Aneros. What I hope KSMO would do for people is to illustrate that experiencing the Super O is very posssible without having anything inserted. So the questions of, "is it hitting it right?", etc., really become unimportant. For me, it was an important thing to learn that you can have a Super O that is not prostate centered.

    Let me state for the record, that even though I was successful with Aneros before starting with KSMO, I needed to have a few sessions before things really took off. Those who are experimenting exclusively with KSMO have the same problems as those who exclusively use Aneros. Some are quicker to get there than others. You will see in their forum and blogs that people have the same problems as over here.

    You can buy the package and see more information at www.multiples.com. I am glad that I did. I hope that helps.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    KSMO is great.

    i had given up on the aneros, but KSMO saved me.

    also, even now, if i want to deepen and widen my sensation, i do silent key sounds and they work remarkably well.

    i only bought the cheaper one.

    darwin
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Max,

    If you are prepared to follow Jack Johnston's training protocol and persevere with it you will certainly encounter the most amazing FBOs that will far exceed your expectations.

    I've been with all the Aneros versions (except Progasm) for several years and have had some wonderful experiences with them. But it was the KSMO that eventually released the most gripping FBOs in my lifetime's experience.

    In my pre-KSMO life I used to envisage what the ultimate orgasm would be like - driving my mind nearly crazy, continuous orgasm lasting for minutes, repeatable orgasms for as long as I wanted.....

    The KSMO has given these to me.

    Moreover, my Aneros sessions have been greatly enhanced by my KSMO training. :)
  • Max
    Posts: 10
    Thanks for the input guys. I went ahead and ordered it so I should be on my way next week. Hopefully this will help things along. Maybe this is the "key" for alot of people who are struggling a bit on the journey like I am. I'll sure let you know if it works for me.
  • its not worth it...

    all it is is a funny sound.. thats it.
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Max,

    >I went ahead and ordered it so I should be on my way next week.<<br />
    A very wise decision. If you practice seriously and follow Jack's Protocol you will get to places where you've never been before and didn't know existed.

    See you over in the forum where there's plenty of discussion, advice and accounts of success.

    Good luck,

    Mog
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi Max!

    Like Buster, I was pre-wired when I started my kSMO sessions. Key Sound has broadened my understanding and my experiences with MMO's!

    I have the first and second CD's. (I think it is much easier to learn with the second disk as well . . . a 20 min. session to do the key sound along with Jack)

    As Mog has said: "Follow Jack's protocol and you will have success."

    Good luck!

    Hlaser99
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    Another vote for KSMO.

    Like Darwin, now a silent KS in the mind triggers and heightens all the prostate-centred wiring and sensations. I also found very early that it amplifies significantly the involuntary contractions and the Chairgasms and other Echo Effects.

    All the best in your explorations.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    Hi Hlaser! Long time no post (me). Here we are again within one second!

    All the best to you too.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi Pal!

    Same to ya!

    Take Care!

    Hlaser99
  • its not worth it...

    all it is is a funny sound.. thats it.



    I disagree. It has awakened feelings I never knew existed, and I'm not super-orgasmic. My progress with the Aneros products has stalled and with the Key Sound, I experienced more in 3 days than I did in the 9 months I've been using my Helix. I believe they complement each other, but learning KSMO first would have helped me immensely. Naturally results will vary for each individual.

    The 2nd seminar has an in depth training session that you can follow along with. It's helpful, but I don't believe it's necessary to gain the benefits. All you need to concern yourself with is relaxing and making the Key Sound correctly and everything else will follow on its own.
  • its not worth it...

    all it is is a funny sound.. thats it.



    One part I do agree with is... yes, for some it is a funny (odd) sound... (see the discussions about Mind Noise and Emotional Furballs)

    But the results are NO JOKE! :wink:

    ...that is... when you take the time to learn to articulate the Key Sound(tm) correctly.

    That's why I added the free Key Sound(tm) sub-forum to help people calibrate correctly.

    BTW, thanks guys for taking the time to learn the lifelong skill...

    You all give totally new meaning to Rock the Planet!!! :lol:

    PS: acakactinum, you're welcome to come back any time and post your Key Sound(tm) sample and I'll let you know about your articulation accuracy. The door back in is always open.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hey Jack, is that you Pal!

    Welcome to the Jungle! LOL![i]

    Hey ALL! Let me introduce to you: The Infamous Jack Johnston! creator of the KSMO Protocol for Multiple Male Orgasms!

    I knew it was you, when I saw BC and Oregon, Jack!

    One thing I have to say is: "ALL the people I know that have had your kSMO training, highly recommend KSMO to anybody that will listen!"

    Hope ALL is well with you and yours!

    Later, Pal

    Hlaser99
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hey Hydraulic!

    Be careful over here - we wouldn't want to lose you!

    Mog
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    mog said:

    Hey Hydraulic!

    Be careful over here - we wouldn't want to lose you!

    Mog



    Funny, Mog!

    "Oh No!!! . . . Lost in the Jungle! LOL!

    I think Jack has a built-in GPS, tho! (or he could leave a trail of Hydraulic fluid, I guess?)

    Later, Hlaser99
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi ALL!

    JUST PONDERING SOME THOUGHTS FROM MY EARLY MMO's:

    To me, the key sound kind of vibrates and activates the multiple, dry orgasms. When I use it, I can feel "orgasmic feelings" in the same areas and the "same feelings" as I do with the Aneros, during a Mini or Super-O!

    I am very indebted to Aneros for "re-wiring" me and allowing me to have the Super-O! (this took me 6 long months!) After the re-wiring took place, I was able to have my "Chair-Orgasms", which takes nothing but breathing, relaxation and taking notice of the feeling coming-on.

    These Chair O's gave me an unquenchable thirst for knowledge of "how I can possibly be having orgasms by doing nothing in a chair, but relaxing???!!!

    This led me to KSMO, to help find the answers to my questions! Since I was already "re-wired", I was able to achieve MMO's using the key sound in about 2 weeks! (I know Buster started in KSMO a few months ago and he was successful almost immediately, because IMHO, he was already "re-wired", as well!)

    So, in my humble opinion, the "re-wiring" is the key to ALL dry orgasms, whether you start with KSMO or with Aneros or other! (and they ALL feel about the same, except with the Aneros you have a probe up your ass and that creates a little more "physical" orgasm, as opposed to chair or KSMO, which are more "cerebral" in nature . . .

    OTHER THOUGHTS:

    The sound itself, IMHO isn't like an orgasmic groan or cry . . . although it may be in the same audio register??? It is a vibration that unlocks the gates to inner knowledge we ALL posses.

    Getting "re-wired" thru Key Sound is happening thru audio and vibratory stimulation and if you are re-wired thru use of Aneros, it is thru direct stimulation of the prostate, anus and perineum, causing a neural loop to be started between these three locations, which once started, the loop continues round and round the loop causing a dry MMO.

    "This is what I now believe!"

    The Super-O or MMO or whatever you choose to call it, will come to you when your body's knowledge of this is ready to be discovered. The ability is there for anyone that will hang in there long enough to reach it! It can't be attained till your body is ready to release it. . .

    Hope this helps someone and ALL these ramblings are but my Humble opinion and doesn't necessarily reflect the views of this station? LOL!

    Remember: When you least expect it, the fawn of orgasmic bliss will sneak up on you and bite you on the ass! LOL, of course!

    Hlaser99
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    >Funny, Mog!<<br />
    The jokes just write themselves! :roll:

    >When you least expect it, the fawn of orgasmic bliss will sneak up on you and bite you on the ass!<<br />
    Hey! - I thought that was my cat did that!
  • Thanks hlaser and OMG MOG.

    My ears were burning a bit so I thought I'd drop by.

    No worries Mog, you guys keep me pretty busy over at the KSMO forum. Thanks again for telling the world how real the Multiple Orgasm Trigger can be when you get past the mind noise about how it's different. Of course it's different... That's why it produces different results, eh? :idea: c.u. there!

    PS: Thanks to everybody at the Aneros forum, including mgmt, who have been so supportive of the Multiple Orgasm Trigger aka KSMO (Key Sound Multiple Orgasm) work over the years!

    Peace through Ecstasy - HJ
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    As we are rewired, so shall we all be reconnected...
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Artform!

    >As we are rewired, so shall we all be reconnected...<<br />
    That's great! I like that!

    Mog :)
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    Glad you enjoy it. Feel free to use it.

    Thanks to your response I'm adopting a version as my signature.

    All the very best Mog.

    artform
  • On the other side of the jungle(i.e. being female) - I have been using Jack's program for 6 years now and I can honestly say it is everything that Jack says it is and SO MUCH MORE!!

    Before KSMO , if someone shared that he/she had a pleasurable orgasm- I was perplexed as I couldn't even think of pleasure + orgasm in the same context.
    Now I can say they are words and feelings that slip easily off my tongue and into the planet of OOO'ss.

    If anyone had told me that a person could orgasm more than once in a single session- I'd thought they were NUTs! 6 years of KSMO and mastering Jack's program, I now think and say , just one orgasm ....huh???? At last count of one session of mine, I now have counted (and lost track even) after 12!! orgasms in a single session and had them last for over 2 hours or more!!!
  • Thanks Laura for reviving this threads I love the KSMO and it changed my sex life forever!!! I've had thousands of O's with that method over the years. I wish more wOmen would try it. And it can be used by The aneros as well. Keep on enjoying!!!
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Laura,

    Very refreshing to have a KSMO queen turn up on this forum to help spread the word about what the KSMO can do for women, as well as men.

    Yes, counting up your MMOs can present the difficulty of keeping count accurately during the orgasmic turmoil of a good session, but there is a cheap and easy solution - a Tally Counter! They're on the internet.

    The one I bought is a neat little thing, costing a couple of quid and not much bigger than a golf ball, chromed, with a thumb ring, easy push trigger and zero set. In-session, gripped in the hand with the index finger through the ring so there's no possibility to lose the thing during body spasms, the trigger is then accessible right under the thumb.

    Using it for the first time I counted 28 during my first 30 mins (timed by one of Kelly Howell's pieces). By the finish of my session, totalling about an hour, the counter was showing 53. I only count my very best events.

    Needless to say, the verifiable scores achievable during much longer sessions can, to a disbeliever's ears, seem incredible.

    Good luck,

    Mog
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 722
    mog,

    Are you serious? First, you have to recognise an orgasm when it occurs, then you have to remember to push the button during the action!

    Sorry, but I just can't imagine myself doing this!

    I generally lose count after about the fourth one and I think that's about how I would like it to be!

    I think I'll PM you about KSMO.

    Cheers, Pommie
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Pommie,

    >Are you serious?<<br />
    Deadly!

    >First, you have to recognise an orgasm when it occurs, then you have to remember to push the button during the action!<<br />
    I don't have any difficulty in knowing when I'm involved in a strong orgasm. I would manually trigger the counter after each orgasm had declined. Can our orgasmic events be so different that there can be some uncertainty?

    After some initial use of the counter I began to find myself gripping the device very tightly in my fist during the peak of the orgasm, less as a deliberate action, more as an automatic response to the orgasmic tension - so much so that after the orgasm's plateau had started to decline I found myself still gripping it, and so hard that I was hurting my fingers. I needed to conciously let go.

    But I found it a reasonable indicator of my orgasmic totals and I have no reason to seriously doubt what it told me..

    However, I used the counter for a couple of weeks but the novelty has now worn off. It has satisfied my curiosity!

    >I generally lose count after about the fourth one and I think that's about how I would like it to be!<<br />
    Before trialling the counter I lost it at about fifteen. Would you not like to know how many you clock up in a good long session?

    >I think I'll PM you about KSMO.<<br />
    Willingly!

    Mog
  • KSMO is a scam. It just took a simple technique off a Chinese Qiguong book and sell for $$$.

    You can get many other technique of Ki, taoism or kundalinii for free online.

  • legace
    Posts: 128
    [QUOTE=hydrogen;100983]KSMO is a scam. It just took a simple technique off a Chinese Qiguong book and sell for $$$.

    You can get many other technique of Ki, taoism or kundalinii for free online.


    links to Ki, taoism,kundalinii?
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    hydrogen,

    Did you read my response to your prior attack on the KSMO protocol? Please don't unfairly libel Jack Johnston's program a SCAM without making a substantial effort to understand and follow the protocol.

    I know of NO scam artists that offer a lifetime money back guarantee on products (or lack thereof) they sell ! Jack has been offering invaluable advice and assistance to his clients for nearly fifteen years and just because you think his Key Sound is borrowed from Taoist breathing exercises (which it isn't) that doesn't make it a SCAM, a fraud or a hoax. He is offering to teach you a skill for a fee, just as hundreds of thousands of teachers teach students worldwide everyday ... for PAY!
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    [QUOTE=rumel;100986]hydrogen,

    Did you read my response to your prior attack on the KSMO protocol? Please don't unfairly libel Jack Johnston's program a SCAM without making a substantial effort to understand and follow the protocol.

    I know of NO scam artists that offer a lifetime money back guarantee on products (or lack thereof) they sell ! Jack has been offering invaluable advice and assistance to his clients for nearly fifteen years and just because you think his Key Sound is borrowed from Taoist breathing exercises (which it isn't) that doesn't make it a SCAM, a fraud or a hoax. He is offering to teach you a skill for a fee, just as hundreds of thousands of teachers teach students worldwide everyday ... for PAY!



    Hydrogen,

    As one of the oldest active members in this forum I have been in contact with many hundreds of men who have learned KSMO and benefited from it greatly (as I did). I recommended it very early on to all Aneros users, referring to it as a breadth requirement in one's journey down the path to the Super O. I have always felt that it made a wonderful companion to one's Aneros practice. But the fact is, it is far more than that. For many men KSMO has been an end in itself, enabling them to enjoy orgasms of a very high order magnitude. I don't know what is driving your ongoing hostility, but I would suggest to you that it is misplaced. On rare occasions we've seen similar allegations being made about the Aneros as it too requires some patience and practice to become proficient with. In my opinion, KSMO is a tremendous value, particularly when compared with other self-improvement modalities. Self-hypnosis for example, often costs hundreds of dollars and TM is now up to $1500.00 ! For those who become proficient with KSMO, it is no less life-changing and at $70.00 it's quite a deal, particularly when you consider all of open-ended product support that is provided. It's clear that Jack has a tremendous amount of pride in what he does and that he is committed to everyone's success. If you have truly paid for this training and have been struggling, I would strongly advise you to avail yourself of the free support that you're entitled to. What do you have to lose?

    BF Mayfield

  • mog
    Posts: 149
    HI Hydro....

    >KSMO is a scam.<<br />
    I can't agree with that. For me, my investment in one of Jack's CDs has been, in terms of value for money, by far the very best investment I've ever made in my lifetime.

    Good luck with your MMOs.

    Mog
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    hydrogen

    [QUOTE=mog;100996]HI Hydro....

    >KSMO is a scam.<<br />
    I can't agree with that. For me, my investment in one of Jack's CDs has been, in terms of value for money, by far the very best investment I've ever made in my lifetime.

    Good luck with your MMOs.

    Mog

    I agree completely with friend mog and I have said the same thing many times elsewhere.

    Soon after beginning with Aneros and my MGX, I was attracted to KSMO by the comments of other Anerosians. We bought the full four disk Library version, and have been very very glad that we did!! I mixed aneros/KSMO/couples practice all together with my wife from then onward. It has worked astoundingly for me and for our sex/ecstasies/spiritual lives ever since, ever climbing higher. Key Sound is the core practice in my ongoing Aneros/KSMO/Taoist/Healing expanding practice.

    With respect, you have no basis for attacking KSMO in the all embracing manner you have, and as such you are defaming all. If you have problems with KSMO, please have a civil and respectful conversation with those of us who have had success and may be able to be helpful for you.

    And most importantly and obviously, if you have paid and joined the KSMO community, follow B Mayfield's excellent advice and avail yourself of Jack's expert guidance.

    all the best openness and learning possibilities all

    artform
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    Wonderful welcome Lucious Laura!! :D :D

    [QUOTE=Lucious Laura;100866]On the other side of the jungle(i.e. being female) - I have been using Jack's program for 6 years now and I can honestly say it is everything that Jack says it is and SO MUCH MORE!!

    Before KSMO , if someone shared that he/she had a pleasurable orgasm- I was perplexed as I couldn't even think of pleasure + orgasm in the same context.
    Now I can say they are words and feelings that slip easily off my tongue and into the planet of OOO'ss.

    If anyone had told me that a person could orgasm more than once in a single session- I'd thought they were NUTs! 6 years of KSMO and mastering Jack's program, I now think and say , just one orgasm ....huh???? At last count of one session of mine, I now have counted (and lost track even) after 12!! orgasms in a single session and had them last for over 2 hours or more!!!

    Thanks so much for your adept insights into the amazing scale of possibilities with Key Sound practice!!!

    all the greatest ecstatic energetics ringing and resonating among and for all

    artform
  • I apologize if I offended anyone who think KSMO is useful to him.

    In absolute theory, KSMO is a good tool to bring people attention to breathing, sound and vibration. But it's just a bigger block to the higher pleasure. I wouldn't have a problem with KSMO has a specialized market. But It doesn't belong in Aneros Wiki. Taoism and kundalini are more suitable than KSMO.

    I highly respect the wiki forum. We're a bunch of pioneers. We all have special talent. I do think KSMO hinder the progress in long run.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,487
    Hi again hydrogen

    Apology appreciated, thanks.

    [QUOTE=hydrogen;101015]I apologize if I offended anyone who think KSMO is useful to him.

    In absolute theory, KSMO is a good tool to bring people attention to breathing, sound and vibration. But it's just a bigger block to the higher pleasure. I wouldn't have a problem with KSMO has a specialized market. But It doesn't belong in Aneros Wiki. Taoism and kundalini are more suitable than KSMO.

    I highly respect the wiki forum. We're a bunch of pioneers. We all have special talent. I do think KSMO hinder the progress in long run.

    I guess you didn't read my reply to you, or you might know that I have had extraordinary success with KSMO as my core practice. It amplified and greatly accelerated my Aneros sessions success and the aneros-style prostate awakening. Key Sounding brought, almost as soon as I began with it, very powerful engulfing p-waves, the energies of orgasmic energetics and Taoist sexual kung fu (Jing+Chi/Qi+Shen) and Qigong healing. KSMO has brought me shared orgasms of light with my wife, and great enegetics added in traditional intercourse. KSMO has been there as I have experienced spiritual universal union and communion with the energetically embodied life-force.

    KSMO has enabled me to become an adept at KSMO and an adept here at Aneros. It has been central to me recognizing and bringing my energies into a most constructive and ecstatic way of being, including the energies exchange experiments/activities here. KSMO re-triggered and expanded my dormant Taoist practice and has been there through my Qigong healing recognition, refinement (Spring Forest Qigong) and expanding healing practice.

    Far from being a block to higher levels of practice, Key Sound has been just that: a central key. I say this not to sell anything to anybody, butt out of concern for others' understanding of the real potential of KSMO and Jack's wonderful coaching service.

    I would like to chat with you hydrogen sometime to understand more why you are so negative or disappointed.

    all the best in energies experiences and advancements all

    artform
  • The truth will eventually come out. I don't have all the answer. I'm just a step or two ahead.

    Please feel free to PM me.
  • Hello, H.

    I think I understand where you're coming from. One would think that all Aneros enhancement techniques would be listed and get equal billing in the Wiki, but they aren't and they don't. (Feathers or Cat-O-Nine-Tails, anyone?) KSMO has some very big fans around here, so it seems to have special treatment, and it costs money. That combo could be causing the slightly fishy smell you've detected.

    But why get wrapped around the axle about it? KSMO works for some people, e-stim works for others; both cost money and have their proponents on this site. It's not worth making an issue about either one.

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • [QUOTE=hydrogen;101020]The truth will eventually come out. I don't have all the answer. I'm just a step or two ahead.

    Please feel free to PM me.


    What is this the X Files ? Forgive me but this sounds a little sanctimonious.



    [QUOTE=ten_s_nut;101022]

    KSMO has some very big fans around here, so it seems to have special treatment, and it costs money. That combo could be causing the slightly fishy smell you've detected.

    Cheers,

    Dave


    Slightly fishy smell? What in the world are you inferring? Am I missing something?

    My take on KSMO is that it's an effective all natural method for producing some major multiple orgasms. Perhaps it has been given more prominence in the WIKI because there are so many testimonials in the forum from so many different men discussing how it has enhanced their Aneros experience.

    And yes, I've had some amazing results from it myself!


    Paul