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  • dunz
    Posts: 32
    Hello, I read the advice in the other thread and tried again to find my prostate this time in an upwards
    squatting position but I simply cannot tell at all where it is and now I am also worried if my anal canal is normal because it feels so strange. I mean when I am upward and then insert the straight finger then I directly hit something after maybe 2 inches. Is this normal? Is it normal that the canal has such a shape?
    I don't know what it is what I am hitting but the canal seems to directly take a curve so if I want to insert further I have to bend the finger. Is what I am hitting the prostate or is the prostate before the curve?
    I think this is hopeless but what worries me more right now is that I don't know if this is normal.
    I have never had a prostate check, could I have an enlarged prostate? I simply don't know what it is what I am hitting directly after the entry. Last time I went to a proctologist was 2,5 years ago. Do you think that I should be worried now?
    I tried to draw a pic. Can you tell me if this is normal? Do you also hit something when you insert a straight finger? I can't tell if my rectum has the same shape as those anatomy pics. :confused:
    I really don't think I want to try this again because it's too upsetting. I feel stuff in there and then don't know if that's normal or not or where the prostate is and where to rub and where not. This is totally upsetting. :(

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    Anatomy comparison pics
    http://www.tirgan.com/prostate.jpg

    http://www.umm.edu/graphics/images/en/10054.jpg
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,196
    looks like the picture you drew matches the first anatomy picture exactly. i think you are having a bout of unwarranted anxiety. i recommend that you keep your finger out of there if you have these feelings. the chances that you are anatomically abnormal is teensy weensy compared to the chances that you don't know what you are doing and are inclined towards scaring yourself.

    of course, if you really really really think there is a problem (no evidence to suggest there is), then go to the doctor.

    this is one of those newbie moments: they are not getting results so they start getting a little desperate, probing around in there, and formulating a wacky theory.

    instead, just insert the aneros and relax, and follow the other advice on the wiki and on the forum.

    good luck,
    darwin
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    dunz,

    It sounds like you are working yourself into a frenzy about this situation. It is not beneficial to yourself to be obsessing about this when you can quickly get some answers by seeing a doctor to have a Digital Rectal Examination (DRE) performed. While doing reading and gaining information about your prostate is a wise endeavor, you may be projecting conditions/situations onto yourself which are non-existent. Let your doctor put your mind at ease by performing the DRE exam.

    You need to understand the illustrations you have been viewing are static two dimensional diagrams which only approximate and generalize anatomical features. The four dimensional (time factored) real world is much more flexible with greater variety than a few illustrations. From your description and simple sketch you probably are in contact with your prostate but you have not yet developed a focus of sensitivity to it.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    Hey dunz,

    Good that you made that Proctology appointment several years ago. If there was something way out of the ordinary, the doctor would have most probably made some comment as he or she was doing the exam. You've got several options:

    1. Take Darwin's suggestion. Read the Wiki content for getting started. Pick a conservative tool such as the SGX, MGX or Helix. Clean out and lube up. Proceed with an insertion, having read the wiki as rummel suggests. Since that doc offered no comment regarding you 'inner geometry' you'll probably do fine. Since your prostate sensory nerves haven't yet been activated -- a situation analogous to virgin females who haven't yet experienced g-spot massage, plan on some fun times that will slowly build your sensual responses and insure you have an 'itchy prostate.' ---- or,
    2. Call that Proctology office and ask that the doc review your chart and convey to you any abnormalities that may have been noted at the time of the last exam. To save time and money that sort of conversation can be done by phone. I think that this is needless but if it helps belie your concerns, all the better. --- or,
    3. Per rummel's post, make an appointment with a Urologist for a DRE. Tell the Uro that you want an evaluation of your prostate and that you are considering prostate massage. The doc will check for size, texture and for any evidence of nodules that might indicate cancer or other disease.

    Above all, take some steps to resolve this mental turbulence.

    If you need detail help for you first insertion, post in this forum or visit weekend chat -- we are here to help.

    tha
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Hello, dunz.

    You might be comforted by the replies to similar thread posted by another relatively new member, "stu." Use the Advanced Search function to find his threads by exact user name.

    Sincerely,

    Dave
  • slimjm
    Posts: 497
    Your picture seems to show your finger at about the level where your prostate should be. A lot of different things in that area can feel strange particularly if you're exploring there for the first time. Calm down first, and if you're a young guy, the chances of something being truly wrong are very small. If you're older, say over 40 or 50, then an appropriate routine urologic exam is something you'd want to be getting anyway. If you've seen a proctologist twice in the time frame you indicate, then something suddenly bad growing in there is very unlikely. Keep communicating with us about this. As has been said, we're here to help you.
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    dunz - you're undoubtedly at the prostate and the "wall" yer hitting is just the normal curve of the rectum as it heads toward the sigmoid colon ...

    it's not gonna feel "good" to you as your anxiety cancels out yer ability to perceive pleasurable sensation in the gland - which i would bet is an entirely normal prostate gland

    ... i understood the anatomy and knew what i was doing - and was not especially anxious - butt it took me several months before my prostate responded pleasurably to pressure

    smoke a joint or have a coupla glasses of wine take a good shower and a warm soapy soak and use an unscented or mild body wash ...

    use yer soapy lubed hands to make love to yer body like you would want a partner to do

    tease yer penis and balls ... and then spend time just teasing the outside of yer anal sphincter - take a good thirty or forty-five minutes enjoying yer body and its responses to yer erotic touching

    take pleasure in yer hardon knowing that yer whole pelvis is now more ready to respond with pleasure to yer gentle penetration and exploration ...

    and wank off gently to orgasm and ejaculation with yer finger in yer ass

    ... and feel how the sphincter spasms forcefully around yer finger - and that [B]bit of prostate[/B] that yer able to contact similarly pulses

    do this a hundred thousand times if you have to ...

    then progress at yer own speed into fuller prostate enjoyment

    this is gonna take you some time and effort ... so enjoy the journey

    - rip
  • dunz
    Posts: 32
    Hello, but is it really normal that you hit something when you insert your straight finger? Do you also hit something after probably 2 inches?
    And what is this? Someone here said this is the prostate but this makes no sense. Look at the pic. On the anatomy pic the prostate should be right at the beginning and the prostate is also said to be small but this protrusion or whatever it is which I hit is big and not small like a walnut.

    Also last time I saw a proctologist was 2 and a half years ago. What if something changed in the meantime? If I had an enlarged prostate or something else then would I have any symptoms? I am 29.

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  • impimp
    Posts: 72
    Quit obsessing! Just go see your doc and have him check you out!
  • eddy99
    Posts: 26
    I can never feel my prostate with my finger either, it just feel like an ass hole... But it's there somewhere ,otherwise, we couldn't cum..........
  • ZenithZenith
    Posts: 22
    Hi dunz,
    Pick one of the medium-sized Aneros toys. Visit a non-adult toy store and buy a soft cuddly stuffed animal -- not suggesting a bear butt if that works, OK

    Lube up, stick in the Aneros, go to bed. Curl up with and hug the animal. Draw it close to your nips. Let your eyes roll back in your head. When you moan, that's the prostate at work.
  • relax!! try a different angle... lay on your back, place a a pillow on each side of your thighs, draw your knees up to your chest and then let them fall open on you to lay upon the pillows... this will help to open your hips and open yourself fully to make it easier to each. let one hand rest on your hip while your predominant flat on your belly middle finger pointing towards your toes... now slide that hand down, past your penis and reach past your balls to rub along that flat spot under your balls... then inhale lightly, exhale and slip that finger into your anus as you cup your hand, then curl your finger back toward your palm... and will know :)
  • jja
    Posts: 49
    Would you have noticed it if you didn't stick your finger up there? If not, don't worry about it. If you are seriously worried, goto the doctor. If you feel weird about it, make something up like a family friend got prostate cancer and you can't get it out of your head until you get checked.
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    [QUOTE=Zenith;98591]Hi dunz,
    Pick one of the medium-sized Aneros toys. Visit a non-adult toy store and buy a soft cuddly stuffed animal -- not suggesting a bear butt if that works, OK

    Lube up, stick in the Aneros, go to bed. Curl up with and hug the animal. Draw it close to your nips. Let your eyes roll back in your head. When you moan, that's the prostate at work.

    better yet dunz ...

    lay off the aneros for the time being - get a strapon for yer teddy bear ...

    and let 'er peg yer ass

    ... it'll probably be less threatening for you - let teddy comfort soothe and calm you down as you waken yer pleasure centers and learn to enjoy yer body's responses

    - rip
    :D
  • buttfunbuttfun
    Posts: 60
    [QUOTE=slimjm;98492]Your picture seems to show your finger at about the level where your prostate should be. A lot of different things in that area can feel strange particularly if you're exploring there for the first time. Calm down first, and if you're a young guy, the chances of something being truly wrong are very small. If you're older, say over 40 or 50, then an appropriate routine urologic exam is something you'd want to be getting anyway. If you've seen a proctologist twice in the time frame you indicate, then something suddenly bad growing in there is very unlikely. Keep communicating with us about this. As has been said, we're here to help you.image

    I think the main thing here is to take it slow, and try and keep relaxed. As others have said, you're new to this and bound to feel things you weren't expecting.
  • Evenin dunz,
    In the famous words of Bobby McFerrin, "Don't worry, Be happy!!" that wonderful little gland is one of the best cponents to allow us men to have orgasms -- either with or without ejaculation. As far as feeling your own prostate with your own finger, it's hard to do as you well know and you don't know what a normal or abnormal one feels like until you've felt hundreds or thousands of them. Most men have normal prostates, and the ones that aren't normal will usualy give you symptoms like you see on the commercials on tv. If you're 40to49 years old you should have a PSA test every 2 years by your doctor or at one of those health fairs that draw your blood. If you're 50 or over, you should get a PSA test every year and a rectal exam by your doctor every year. Once you get into your mid 70's or 80's the tests aren't too accurate so a lot of doctors don't recommend them. Until you have problems or go see your doctor for the PSA and/or rectal exam. Don't worry about it and play with your toys. We owe it to the men of the world to do the best we can to expand the boundaries of multiple male orgasms. Have fun, have lots of sex and most importantly, relax. Did I reassure you at least a little bit? I hope so. Enjoy!! Life is good!!!!

    MultiOrgasmMan
  • dunz,

    I've had my finger up there numerous times. I'm still not sure exactly how what I feel corresponds to the anatomy pictures I've seen. I really wanted to solidly locate my prostate for a while. However, as my Aneros experience continues to get better, I've really started to accept that I don't need to be able to locate my prostate on command, I just have to trust that the device is hitting it and enjoy the sensations to their fullest.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    [QUOTE=MindTravels;98859]dunz,

    I've had my finger up there numerous times. I'm still not sure exactly how what I feel corresponds to the anatomy pictures I've seen. I really wanted to solidly locate my prostate for a while. However, as my Aneros experience continues to get better, I've really started to accept that I don't need to be able to locate my prostate on command, I just have to trust that the device is hitting it and enjoy the sensations to their fullest.
    Exceptionally well said! It took me six months on the journey to feel the same way.
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 732
    This is probably why the Peridise and Tempo models work just as well as the prostate massagers.

    Seems to me that it doesn't really matter whether the prostate is being directly impacted.

    Currently, the Eupho and the 18mm Peridise work equally well for me!
  • dunz
    Posts: 32
    Hi guys,
    does this mean it is normal that you hit the anal wall if you try to insert your finger in a straight way?
    I was worried wether my rectum might have an abnormal shape or something cause somehow it looks different on those anatomy pictures or maybe I'm confusing something but when I look at where the prostate is located on those pics and then try to find my own prostate by using those pics as guide then it doesn't work. :confused:
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 732
    Dunz,

    I have no medical qualification but would say that if you have any concerns about your physical status, you get yourself checked out by someone who is appropriately qualified.

    Although I may not have put it very well, I think what I was suggesting the other day was that I seem to be able to get distinctly different anal orgasms from the use of the Peridise models as compared with the prostate type orgasm achieved by using the other Aneros models.

    Using the Eupho and the Peridise models allows me to achieve both!
  • dunz
    Posts: 32
    Maybe there's no reason to be concerned, I don't know. It would help me if I knew wether what I experienced is normal. Is nobody here who has experience with inserting his finger and who could tell me what happens directly after the entrance? Going by the anatomy pics it looks like it's normal that your straight finger touches the inner lining after a few inches. So maybe it's normal that you sooner or later hit something when you go deep enough.
    http://www.umm.edu/graphics/images/en/10054.jpg
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 732
    dunz,

    FWIW, I had not tried digital exploration of my rear end until a few years ago and then I found it so uncomfortable I didn't pursue the issue.

    Although I now routinely use a finger to insert a plug of shea butter for lubricating prior to an Anerosession, I find that once past the second sphincter, there seems to be a chamber in which there is nothing!

    Maybe this is because my fingers are so short that I can't reach in far enough to make contact with anything further up. I suspect that I am not alone in this and you may be in my league?

    With reference to your diagram, I'm sure I cannot reach in far enough for my finger to make contact with my prostate and I believe this is quite common amongst men. If it was possible for most men comfortably to reach their prostates using just a finger, I guess that would make Aneros devices redundant.

    If a medical check reveals that you have no deformation in that area, I would cease to worry!
  • Dunz,

    If you're so concerned about this, make an appointment with your doctor. You can discuss your concerns with him as well as any thing else you may want to discuss. If you and he think a prostate exam is appropriate, then he will do one. And then your questions will be answered most likely. But try to relax if you can and try a smaller Aneros model for some very good sensations. If you're under 5'6" then try the sgx, if not try the Mgx or the classic. Good luck and enjoy!!!