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Aneros, coz men only think of one thing
  • HelixerHelixer
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    woman?nope, the projection of what you, as man, turns you on in a woman. Most of these things are hardwired(why do a lot of pornstars have bigger boobs, fake their moans, etc). I've been fortunate enough to stumble on www.pornbb.org which really takes care of some of the visuals that turn me on in a woman, but, unless you watch pornvideos(which is a turn off for me, for reasons which will become clear later on)with pictures, though preferable to pornvideos, you miss the sound.

    Now I give you Aneros users 2 examples that will let you intuitively grasp which way I would like Aneros to develop. Nike and Microsoft.
    And for comparison I'd like to compare this with the (multibillion dollar)gamingindustry.

    What made Microsoft such an important make? Was it Windows(apple mac)?Their charismatic leader?or...was it perhaps coz Microsoft made the right partnerships with other parts of the whole pc system(Intel, IBM etc).

    Nike was master in marketing, for the rest they find cheap childlabor, get the good designers etc, but all they do is market, the shoe itself they outsource.

    Recently I saw this documentary on the gaming industry, it's humble origines and were it ended up(some games have budgets larger than feature films!!!)
    This is how I see Aneros, like the microchip, in it's infancy and ready to charter unknown territory.

    So how do I picture the system/network of organisations?

    What I'm going to suggest is perhaps like the first version of pong, but bare with me.

    Gaming has branched off into many fields, but still satisfies it's basic goal. Entertainment(pro-active).
    A basic human need...(no wonder some Koreans even die during a game;)
    If games are a multibillion dollar industry for satisfying that need, how much more satisfying will it be when our sexual experience with the Aneros is greatly expanded by game like interfaces(for the inter-activity)and with like the i-tunes you can select different types of moans and subliminals

    The moans will be either recorded by pornstars, or cheaper if possible, using a device that steal the (dna) of the voice so you can record yourself what kind of moans you want using a pornstarsvoice(perhaps realtime feedback thru the pc). The voices can range from softcore to extreme hardcore and put on the interface like a dial that one can turn up and down depending on what you need.
    The pictures will be given nmrs so moans you hear will fit the picture you see.
    At the same time another dial can give the intensity of subliminal programming....ranging from things like mmm, harder, deeper, to mmm, aaah, explode in my asshole etc....plenty ideas

    And of course thc.

    I say make deals with pornindustry(horniest voices), deals with the retailoutlets in the US that sell medical marijuana.

    At first I thought it a pity that Aneros hasn't really made any ads, my guess now is they were waiting for the packaged deal they could sell.

    Package=Aneros(perhaps later redesigned to emit fluid when cumming hard(button on the gameconsole))+ Thc/medical or otherwise+ the combo for the moans, subliminals on demand....soon pornstars will compete to be part of the Aneroscollection!!!!
    Probably the best form would be the World of Warcraft licence fee. Unlimited pics+sound/subliminals and the use of console(paying a monthly fee for licencing and hire of the equipment)

    I don't even care if I could make money with this, I just want someone to MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

    Perhaps I'll think this was a dumb idea tomorrow, but hopefully I'll still appreciate it and elaborate on it.


    These are the parts I want working in unison anyway. Then perhaps willing guineapigs on this forum can offer their services to be experimented on, with different combis of brainwaves, subliminals, types of marijuana, types of consoles. Obviously the pictures and the moans will be selected by the participants as I said like i-tunes.....A huge library



    To summarize:

    - The pornindustry has disregarded what is KEY in any sexual experience, namely interactivity, the proposed interface would be the next best thing to virtual reality.

    -To clarify DNAmarking of a voice; I don't know this for a fact, but certainly some would claim this technique was used by the CIA to fake Bin Laden's voice. This should either already be possible or soon be that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. And again, once digital we can make things look better, sound hornier, etc than the real thing
  • HelixerHelixer
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    I'm still positively orgasmic after my amazing experience with the Maximus(it used to be the bastard in my stable but now it's unequivocally cleared it's name and at the least the equal of the other famed Anerostoys)yesterday, anyways, as promised I'll elaborate starting with the first point on women.

    Like Richard Dawkins I feel evolution could have done a far better job with intelligent design ;) but obviously also evolution has made men and women have totally different strategies and purpose. For women it's about making babies and protection(status) for these children, men are slaves to their sexual desires and are thus forced to become materialists(more on this later). The sexual desires are based on outward appearance apparantly related to fertility. This is why we react the way we do when we see a gorgeous woman.

    As I've stated previously, when you've experienced the Aneros experience youll notice a few other externalities. Just looking at pictures of gorgeous women can bring on intense orgasms. (the evolutionary responses were already in place but now flooded with new significance). Those women on www.pornbb.org are ideals of the male psyche. No woman would walk over the road like that. Not, as is frequently implied by feminists, because of male suppression, but because they have different evolutionary strategies, thus being dressed sluttishly is not for all, she would be considered whore by other women and regarded as hierarchically low. This and their evolutionary strategy requires that they only do this for their provider and protector(who is a slave to his sexual desires and must comply).
    And I suppose the Aneros and sexual fantasypictures of ideal women weren't around yet so males also complied with the female evolutionary strategy. If the male was to be the provider and protector then he wouldn't take to kindly, looking after(are these freakin' kids even his?)her and her children if she was sleeping around.I believe the possessivness men feel isn't their true nature but is a result of women's evolutionary strategy.
    But now, with plastic surgeory, women can enhance these features that men find sexually attractive, and obviously other trics(make up/erotic lingerie/stiletto shoes/boots)have been around for a long time, men can perhaps break free of their pseudo materialism, possessiveness and truely make what they long for in a woman.
    The difference in evolutionary strategy of the sexes ought to be recognised coz only then can we get what we really want from women.

    Above I've explained how Aneros and sexualimagery greatly magnify and expand the inherent evolutionary mechanism, that nature itself and the psyche of women need to be better adapted to fit the sexual needs of men. Men are obviously turned on by characteristics that imply fertility, but since esthetics and not procreation is what turns men on, we can enhance these features with erotic imagery. This, as I stated is better than the real-thing can women obviously have different strategy than men, unless of course gorgeous enhanced women get paid to dress and look a certain way.

    I remember reading a quote of some feminist that said something like:"pornography tells lies about women but says everything about men", this IMO is in fact a correct and concise description as far as that goes.

    So what else does a man(slave to sex) desire? Why do pornstars moan so much. I've stated in a previous thread that research has shown that the moaning of women turns a man on because when a woman truely orgasms there's more chance of fertilising the egg. Obviously the only way a women can outwardly show this to a man is by moaning, so evolution has programmed us to be thus turned on by this.

    What I said earlier about why pictures are better than video is because normally in a video even a pornstar with a really horny voice goes over the score with moaning....besides, it mostly sounds fake, that's why I suggested with the i-tunes store, with gameconsole for the different types of groaning, moaning and other encouraging signs of loving getting fucked....The pornstars then can better concentrate on one take of a certain type of moan....and since it'll take many takes to get sold and will have to compete. A pornstar will soon learn to make that type of moan etc as horny as possible......now compare that to the repetitive fake moaning and groaning in a pornfilm....also since you can choose which texts etc are used you'll never get turned off by hateful lingo you often hear in pornfilms.....this is where the time is moving us to. Catering to our individual desires and where the consumer who was once the passive receiver, is now like with games, the active participant.

    "so", you might say, "where does love for a woman come into this". Let me quote what NLPer Ross Jeffries says on this:"Love is a process you inflict on yourself"(obviously when speaking about women, although there is true love, pure love, but that isn't love for her but love of GOD)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Another theme I like is how we search for our Anima to make us complete(1 with God) and with the above mentioned idea we can perhaps some day achieve this. One of the ways would be to have realtime conversion of our own moans into the(DNAmarketed quality) of your horniest female voice. So when the Aneros is making you come you hear your own moans as extremely horny female moans, making you moan more and louder ;)
    I better stop writing now, or one day I'll be completely dried up and not a single letter will come from my keyboard...Anyways just spreading the gospel:

    Heil Aneros!Or as they say in China Heil HIH(8898;)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Maybe one day Aneros can make an accomodation for Aneros users called "Aneros World".....With the technology mentioned above and appropriate accomodation+herbs ;)
  • impimp
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    How does any of this theory relate to bi and gay men?
  • HelixerHelixer
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    [QUOTE=imp;90226]How does any of this theory relate to bi and gay men?

    I'm not really sure how it works with them, at least if it's true that in a relationship one has the feminine role, perhaps the gays on this forum can chime in? I assume the evolutionary strategy of men and their Achilles heel(sexslaves)is the same for all men irrespective of sexuality.
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Speaking about this topic to a friend he made me aware of something that might render a gameconsole/interface superfluous!
    Xbox-Kinect. Though I'd expect less glitches with an interface, definitely a first step to virtual reality!
  • You're a visionary - after reading this, if this is even within the realms of possibility, it's tragic that, in my mind, it'll never happen in the current state of society.

    The first step would be more social acceptance of hedonism itself. Of the friends I've tried talking to about the Aneros, only one didn't immediately take the piss out of me and start calling me things I'd rather not repeat. (The guy's a hypocrite, incidentally, I know what he's into and I've never been discouraging about the bits I didn't personally like). It actually probably put me off the awesome positive feeling I had at the time which was pushing me into buying the toy - I'd have had the Aneros for a year or so by now if it wasn't for that. (I promise I'll get it the moment I live somewhere with a bit of personal space now though!) Only then would it be really possible to get all the people who would need to be involved for such a project to actually work together.

    Bear in mind, however, that I live in the repressed England and I hate it here. >_>
  • HelixerHelixer
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    You're a visionary - after reading this, if this is even within the realms of possibility, it's tragic that, in my mind, it'll never happen in the current state of society.The first step would be more social acceptance of hedonism itself



    Come on, we've had gay liberation, female liberation, it's only fair heterosexual males should finaly get their chance ;)

    Besides, Aneros already exists. The pornindustry already exist. Most of what I've mentioned already exists it's just connecting the dots, or like Microsoft does, instead of all seperate programs, integrate them into a packaged deal! What ppl do in the privacy of their own homes is up to them!


    Bear in mind, however, that I live in the repressed England and I hate it here



    Seks op kosten belastingbetaler - Buitenland - Telegraaf.nl [24 uur actueel, ook mobiel] [buitenland]

    It's not so bad, perhaps British taxpayers can even pay for your sextrip to Amsterdam for therapeutic reasons ;)
    Get your hash, lube up an aneros and notice how your depression dwindles away as wave after wave of pure delight hit you!
  • Tremelo
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    To this latter point you're discussing, I think it WILL be coming along (more or less) within about five years, but pioneered in Japan, where the culture is much more healthy and positive about sex (though not without their own issues). Point being that they're the country with the right combination of values and technology, and have already shown a pioneering spirit toward sexual technology.

    Helixer, I tried to check out that site you linked, but couldn't really find my way to the point you were making. Could you provide a particular link to demonstrate? (I know it doesn't represent your ultimate point, but I feel I'm missing something without having successfully followed it through.)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Helixer, I tried to check out that site you linked, but couldn't really find my way to the point you were making. Could you provide a particular link to demonstrate? (I know it doesn't represent your ultimate point, but I feel I'm missing something without having successfully followed it through.)



    What?No translationprograms on i-Mac?
    Nothing to compete with "bing"?:)
  • Tremelo
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    Okay. I just thought it was directly salient to your point, in some way I wasn't seeing or finding, but I see now that it's just a site you like. All good.
  • HelixerHelixer
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    I know it doesn't represent your ultimate point, but I feel I'm missing something without having successfully followed it through



    So what do you mean?
    Unless of course you were being insular, but maybe instead you could actually learn a new technique in the process and maybe a new language.....from the quoted I presumed you were desperately lacking something.

    Or of course Mista Jobs isn't quite 'up2date'
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Anyways to continue, follow the tao, sometimes all you want is a little piece of old fashioned fantasy, sometimes life could be pretty if I'd grown up blind, a little cycle, close your eyes!

    In a way I've got a problem with my own idea. Electronic devices are in a way, slowly destroying our mental abilities, insidiously spreading from our mental arithmatic ability to our imagination. This is why it's important not to rely exclusively on computerdesigned fantasy, coz this will only make you lose your own.
    If you're only the passive recipient you are basically a female, and as the saying goes, 'if mankind had been feminine we'd still be living in caves'.
    Close your eyes sometimes, get in touch with your rightbrainside(creativity, imagination, intuition). Sure it's ok to wanna get fucked like a horny slut sometimes, but remember you were born a man, so you're both male and female, I believe this to be for a reason, otherwise we'd all just be shitting out babies
  • [QUOTE=Helixer;90246]Come on, we've had gay liberation, female liberation, it's only fair heterosexual males should finaly get their chance ;)

    Besides, Aneros already exists. The pornindustry already exist. Most of what I've mentioned already exists it's just connecting the dots, or like Microsoft does, instead of all seperate programs, integrate them into a packaged deal! What ppl do in the privacy of their own homes is up to them!



    Seks op kosten belastingbetaler - Buitenland - Telegraaf.nl [24 uur actueel, ook mobiel] [buitenland]

    It's not so bad, perhaps British taxpayers can even pay for your sextrip to Amsterdam for therapeutic reasons ;)
    Get your hash, lube up an aneros and notice how your depression dwindles away as wave after wave of pure delight hit you!

    May be doing a bit more than that in a few years, mate.

    I read through your idea again, and, being in a bit of a better mood (also high) I've actually seen a feasible means for it to work. A crude, crude variant would be simply, say, a vibrator programmed with a porn film with a headset on. Getting the sound right, in the way you suggest, however, is beyond my imagination even now. Sensors could also be attached to the body, which detect your level of arousal and can move the movie down different paths depending on what it feels you responding to. For this to work, you'd probably need the film to be animated. In a more enlightened age, the device could also be fitted with an air hose which, depending on an optional setting and what readings it's picking up from you, could also pump in, say, marijuana vapour. Attach it to a massage chair as well, and...

    You get an idea that'll probably never happen, because this world isn't that awesome. Anybody wants to file the patent, I'm leaving the idea open here so long as you send me a free one and promise to keep the price low :)
  • impimp
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    The "Orgasmatron" was already invented back in the seventies - Orgasmatron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Look m8, all I'm really saying is it's frustrating for me, being a huge Aneros-fan, that they've only concerned themselves with toys but not with the revolutionary implications of them.
    Ok, I understand in most places hash is outlawed, but then again there are also places that it's ok. In Holland I'd suggest they set up the first in a line of Aneros Worlds....or actually rent rooms to either foreigners or Dutch with a partner or singles living at home....Then perhaps merchandise this idea in the US in medical marijuana outlets.

    What kind of rooms?
    basically an ultimate relax room, with no furniture but the relaxing cushionlike surroundings a pc. (obviously minibar, shower, etc inother room).

    A new type of hotelrental for an increasingly rising demographic AND yes, the above idea I presented above can easily work that could already work on a pc now

    So people think this impossible?To me it's amazing that some men spend 1000s on sextrips to Thailand, men potentially would pay thru their nose for sexual gratification that's what the whole sexual dynamic's about!
    You ask me, why do you care? you've already got your pleasure......Well that's EXACTLY why I care I've seen the promised land:) I've experienced the amazing combination of hash, Aneros and erotic imagery, I've experience that this is more than a little ephemeral. And I know the interactive idea with moaning etc mentioned above will definitely add to the experience.

    Women and gays have been liberated and I think this can do the same thing for heterosexual males.

    Men should have the right to every once in a while withdraw into their own fantasyworld and take either a day or a few weeks holiday in 'the little mens room', married men can temporarily free themselves from their drudgereous existence. It's like Disney World for children.
    Actually these rooms will have something for all men. Reasonably isolated(for example outside of Amsterdam) which will give greater privacy and for the entrepreneur and consumer cheaper prices. Also they will be reasonably soundproof so you can scream and moan till your hearts content without having to either hear or bother about neighbours.
    Basically the little men's rooms in Holland will serve hashcake, even if you don't believe in drugs you might perhaps consider it sometime, but even if you won't(just bare in mind many have awakened their prostate and/or dramatically enhanced their Super O experience) there will be plenty reasons to take a vacation in Aneros World. Specially designed chairs(like one someone posted here a while back with an opening in the middle so you can sit with the Aneros in) Comfy beds that can be adjusted( a bit like a hospitalbed) to accomodate the different positions, baths etc.....Everything in the room is functional(no extravegences to keep the holidays affordable for all men) and is compatible with Aneros use. And though selfevident I'll add the pc(or i-mac) with internetconnection and perhaps with beamer(so you have the erotic imagery in full view, but I guess the room being little and the beamer being extravegent, a 24 inch monitor would do as well ;)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    The "Orgasmatron" was already invented back in the seventies - Orgasmatron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Tantra was invented a little further back
  • HelixerHelixer
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    set up the first in a line of Aneros Worlds



    Oh and gays and bisexuals NOT ALLOWED

    (kidding)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    May be doing a bit more than that in a few years, mate

    .

    @anon1764: I think you're probably right that my working out of the basic idea is unnecessarily complicated.

    Cause really the idea is really simple; having the pornpics as well as the the sound. All that's really needed is an application that can add samples to a picture so it doesn't get so repetitive(this is probably what makes it mostly sound fake) as in a pornfilm. Hearing horny moans etc is really all that's missing, coz with pictures you mainly already get the best shots and can project your fantasy onto it more

    The only thing missing then of course would be the realtime conversion of your voice into the voice of your anima, but I guess most ppl aren't at liberty to really let go anyhow

    So if anyone knows applications that can do this it would be greatly appreciated if they add it to this thread so Aneros users can make their own collections.



    I guess a simple fact explains the overcomplication above. We're hardwired to react to visual AND auditory stimuli(for some reason I've never really reacted so much to touch). I had the visual but I was missing the auditory. And as far as auditory goes what really turns me on is the classic german porn, the moans they made should have been an example for what came later. Unfortunately you still hear the males grunting a way as well. Obviously best would be those female voices filtered out and then just close your eyes!Or of course german classic lesbian porn is the way to go!

    I guess for me the auditory is sometimes even more stimulating than the visual, especially coz at times you feel more by closing your eyes then the sound of moans etc can really add to the experience
  • MyTurn
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    [Tongue In Cheek]

    I've scanned through this and couldn't really discern any kind of endgoal or point. Could you nutshell this idea? Hetero men need liberation through the Aneros? We should download porn voices from Itunes? I should buy a Nike training shoe? What, motherfucker?! What?!! :)

    lol.
    [/Tongue in cheek!]
  • HelixerHelixer
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    Please, understand that when Super O-ing with hash, sometimes ideas pop into your head and you just want to tell the world!
    Anyway, distilling from the deluge, retrospectively it was really about the following:

    1-It's about taking the attributes we want, the things we've been hardwired to react to with women, and ramp up these attributes. Especially now having this multiorgasmic awareness, looking at pictures showing sexy women looking horny, with big breasts and clothing that brings out the sexiest parts of them best is enough sometimes to set off mild orgasmic sensations.
    As males there are primarily 2 things we react to, the visual mentioned above, but also the auditory. See, this was what it was really about that stoned idea about an interactive interface. I get turned on by moans etc, the problem in pornfilms of nowadays is that it's too repetitive to sound sincere, too phoney!
    Now as opposed to the visual(breast enlargements, ass etc)very little has been done for this auditory element that IMO is equally important. Competition could help(sets of moans thru itunes), possibly digitally enhancing the moans could help as well. That you could perhaps take a female moan and make it sound hornier than a women could possibly sound in real life.
    Just like the pictures you won't (coz of their evolutionary strategy) see women dressed and in different sexy poses in real life, you could enhance women's moans to make them sound hornier than they would be in reality.

    It's all about enhancing all the characteristics of women that men are hardwired to react to and thus after truely experiencing the Aneros will react to even more!

    But as I said in message #20: For now Classic German Lesbian porn will do when I'm Super O-ing, for the auditory(so I can close my eyes and focus on the inward sensations and still be made hornier by something I"m hardwired to react to)and the visual, the slideshows from pornbb when I'm in the pre-Super O phase

    2-Aneros World: wouldn't it be great if there was a place you could go to that was built for the Aneros experience of Super Oing?. Seats/sofas designed so you can do all the positions in complete comfort. Rooms completely insolated and isolated so you could 'express yourself' without bothering about neighbours etc. And yes, I would like it if my moans were converted realtime in to the horniest women voice I could find(but this is perhaps not possible just yet).
  • [QUOTE=Helixer;90848]... the slideshows from pornbb ...

    OK, how do you do slideshows on pornbb? I didn't see anything there like that. Just curious!

    BTW, I think the audio is important, too... :-)
  • HelixerHelixer
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    1)Download sets from pornbb into my pictures(or whatever it's called on your pc)
    2)(optional)select the best pics from the set
    3)there should be an option when you go into the file to play slideshow(I'm not sure if this is the term as my windows is in Dutch)

    NB/The earliest OS I've done this on was Windows Vista, now I have 7 so I'm not 100% sure if you even have the option if you have an earlier version, but otherwise there must surely be applications that play a slideshow