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Point of diminishing returns: almost 2 years in.
  • MacPC
    Posts: 12
    Hi Guys,

    I have been using an Aneros for almost 2 years. I’m starting to get discouraged. Lately I have not even been feeling the peculiar and pleasurable sensations I got earlier. I wonder if any anyone else who has taken a long time to achieve super-o’s could advise me on what might be changed to head in a more positive direction.

    I have an MGX, Helix, and the beginner’s pair of Peridises. My usual time between use use is about 3 days to one week. I’ve gone for a few weeks between sessions one or two times. Usually I try to refrain from traditional stimulation for about 3 days before use. I’ve tried abstaining for up to 3 weeks before a session. I frequently finish a session with a traditional orgasm. These happen with less and less effort, but are less powerful. I’ve gotten pretty good at edging during non-Aneros sessions. I usually set aside a few hours for a session. Weekends are better. Evening use sometimes causes me to fall asleep, however I’ve never had the wake-up-to-orgasm experiences reported by others.

    I usually use coconut oil on the device and put it in the freezer before coating it with K-Y jelly and inserting. I’ve tried Vaseline a number of times and olive oil once. I usually pre-lubricate with 2-3 mL of Astroglide or it’s equivalent. The K-Y liquid seems to make me want to defacate.

    Usually, I pre-flush. I’ve used recycled Fleet Enema bottles, the Higginson syringe, or a rectal syringe with a rubber bulb. I’ve tried all temperatures of water. I generally use warm water.

    Most sessions begin with cleanout. This is followed by watching some pornography, until I feel stirrings below. I usually avoid manual stimulation during that. Then I usually take a hot relaxing bath, sometimes a shower. Sometimes I skip either. I’ve tried relaxing with music, and sitting in a comfortable chair doing nothing but feel what is going on inside.

    I’ve used the HypnAerosession CDs quite often. Sometimes this helps to get some very strong involuntary pleasure pulses. Sometimes it leads to trying too hard. I often try the contraction sequence on the CD. I’ve tried lot of combinations of anal contractions. Sometimes I try to involve the PC muscles. I’ve done a fair number of excercises to isolate and strengthen these muscles.

    I’m healthy, and run or walk up to a few miles every day. I’ve been doing a lot of stretching and some yoga lately. I take Wellbutrin, Simvastatin, aspirin, and a multiple-vitamin daily. I avoid alcohol before a session. Sometimes caffeine of chocolate intensifies the pleasant sensations.

    Usually I am on my back with knees bent. I’ve gotten some very pleasant sensations on my side with one leg bent. I’ve had a lot of trouble locating my p-spot. It is not very sensitive even when I’m aroused, but the tabs seem to touch it most of the time.

    A couple of months ago, I took the tail off of my MGX. It allowed me to sit down comfortably, and avoids any pressure when I’m on my back.

    I’ve tried not to get too fixated on the big-o, but even the wide range of pleasant feelings I’ve had seem to be less intense and frequent, lately. After the second and third sessions, I had some involuntary anal fluttering the next day. I am frequently struck by nice feelings for a couple of days after a session. They are pretty mild, but I’ve learned to be receptive to them.

    I’ve heard that insanity is doing the same things repeatedly and expecting a different result. I hope someone can recommend some ideas to get my practice back on track.

    I'd probably have quit by now, but I read success stories in the forum or watch some guy having remarkable success in a video and try again.

    Thanks,
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    I tend to zero in on the mood-stabilizer.

    There have been a couple of visitors to the E.D. group who are prescribed Wellbutrin. I don't recall whether it was -SR or the plain version. They have reported sweet spots in the day. One gent found that he was more capable libido-wise and erectile performance-wise 60-90 minutes after taking Wellbutrin in comparison to other times in the day.

    Yahoo has an adult group for Sexual Side Effects of medications. You might find some practical discussion or advise there.

    Tks for the mention of Chocolate. Confirms that my attraction to that stuff might bl ALL GOOD !!

    Probably a good idea to discuss this with you doc. The trick is to sort out a good time window for arousal and pleasure while getting what you are looking for mood-wise.
  • thhn
    Posts: 425
    I'm about three years in and still waiting for the big O, so don't feel too bad. sounds to me like you are doing everything right. I have the models you mention but get the strongest results with the progasm. My most intense sessions have come after partaking in a little smoke to set the mind into the right condition. try that, if you're not opposed to such a thing.
    My journey is filled with pleasure and wonderful sensations but still have not crossed over. Probably the most improtant thing for me is nipple stimulation. I have recently started my ksmo journey and that shows promise as well.
    Hang in there and just enjoy what ride you are given. Best of luck
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello MacPC, :)

    Don't feel so bad, you are definitely not alone in being a long term grinder. I'm just over three and a half years and still no super-O. But I do have highly pleasurable sessions at times. Like thhn said, nipple stimulation I find to be highly important in encouraging pleasurable prostate and anal sensations. It can take a bit of time to wake them up though. So don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen the first time. The other thing is that I would avoid finishing you sessions by ejaculating. Your trying to build arousal, not kill it by ejaculating. Also you don't want to inadvertently train your mind/body to associate Aneros usage with ejaculating. I would also try and increase your sessions to every other day if possible. Even if you don't feel like anything will happen. It gives you more consistent practice and prostate stim to shorten the time of re-wiring. Plus you never know, I've had Aneros sessions that I thought would be duds and ended up being highly pleasurable. One more thing is, experiment within your sessions, sometimes one technique that worked before doesn't work as well, so you have to find something else. You'll get there be patient. :)

    Love_is
  • MacPC
    Posts: 12
    I don't mean for this to be necessarily the last word in the thread, but I want to thank those who have offered supportive advice. The ideas about the Wellbutrin resonate most with me. I'm going to try experimenting with timing. I may try to go off of the meds with the advice and monitoring of my MD.
  • wreckind
    Posts: 21
    [QUOTE=thhn;89780]I'm about three years in and still waiting for the big O, so don't feel too bad. sounds to me like you are doing everything right. I have the models you mention but get the strongest results with the progasm. My most intense sessions have come after partaking in a little smoke to set the mind into the right condition. try that, if you're not opposed to such a thing.
    My journey is filled with pleasure and wonderful sensations but still have not crossed over. Probably the most improtant thing for me is nipple stimulation. I have recently started my ksmo journey and that shows promise as well.
    Hang in there and just enjoy what ride you are given. Best of luck

    Agree !!! After 2-3 years of pleasant sessions, since i introduced these stimulations i had my 1st two Super Os with the Peridise and the Helix (the first that i bought). It s like if they allowed the right to the pleasant feelings to grow and opened a way to let it come to my brain. With a mix of pc-anal-rectal contractions well described in sticky threads and this one :
    http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/quick-dirty-path-super-o-14552/
    the addition of the nipple stimulation (i already tried it with my fingers but had success using a pump) is like a pleasure detonator. I use the pump during the relaxation just after the Aneros insertion and sometimes during the session when i feel that i am too far from the pleasure path.

    I used this pump :
    Dual Nipple Suckers Pump - Free UK Delivery on Nipple Clamps & Suckers at LoveHoney
    separately on each nipple (one end over a nipple and the second on the skin very closed to the first, to be able to seal them by applying a pressure with my left hand and handling/pressing the pump with my right hand) because it isn t enough stable to stay stimultanesly on each nipple.

    i even ordered different items recently :
    Mr. S Leather -- Supple Nipples Tit Suckers

    and

    RL350
    BDSM Lingerie Shop


    in order to find a hand free solution. I already know that they won t provide the variant stimulation that i get with the pump but perhaps they will arouse the nipples sufficiently to "open the way".

    I hope that it will be helpful.
    ps : sorry for my poor english.