Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Sign In with Google

In this Discussion

Over a year and still no success...
  • Hi,

    So I bought the aneros mgx before christmas last year and have not really had much success with it.
    There have been two or three occassions in the year when i've managed to get to the point of having quite strong repetitive anal contractions and feel as though i'm moments away from getting into the uncontrollable cycle of spasms leading to an orgasm, but the moment never comes, and I just end up getting frustrated.

    I've tried to 'not have any expectations' and stuff like that, and although the occassions where i've done that have probably been the best, i'm still unable to get past the same point.
    I've tried the hypnaerosession cd and tried relaxing completely before starting contractions, but still no progress.

    I'm determined to get this to work, and was thinking that actually the progasm might give me better results because it's bigger, i sometiems feel like the mgx is very small...and i am over 6ft 6...if that makes any difference.
    I also have ibs type symptoms which make it hard to use the aneros unless i'm completely 'cleaned out' but i havent used an enema yet.

    I'm desperate for some help with this!
  • scubdiv said:

    I'm determined to get this to work, and was thinking that actually the progasm might give me better results because it's bigger, i sometiems feel like the mgx is very small...and i am over 6ft 6...if that makes any difference.



    2 things: I am not sure about the Progasm and I am nowhere as tall so can't give you any help there. However, I own several different models, they all work, just using a different model is like getting a new girlfriend! And I love all my 'mistresses' :D

    I think the problem may be showing up in your statement "I'm determined to get this to work". It sounds like you are trying too hard and have expectations of specific results.

    Try a session where you absolutely give up on trying to feel anything. Just insert the Aneros and relax. It helps if I can be in a quiet atmosphere and just let my mind drift off wherever it wants to go. Don't do any contractions or try to do anything with the Aneros. This might free your mind up enough so that it cn begin to listen to what your body wants rather than 'expecting' anything. Even if you have 2 or 3 sessions with no particular feeling other than the relaxation don't worry about it.

    It takes time for the 'rewiring' we talk about and the first part of the rewiring is to get rid of all my old ideas of what I "should" be feeling.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    (Note : Underlined Text is a Hyper-Link)
    Hi scubdiv,

    Welcome to the Forum.

    I agree with 'helixbill', you said “I'm determined to get this to work,...”. I infer from that statement you believe you can make results happen through force of will. IMHO, this will continue to lead you in the wrong direction and toward ongoing frustration, hence your plea - “I'm desperate for some help with this!” Desperation is not a good starting point for an Aneros session.

    It seems to me that one's attitude of approach to Aneros use is a critical component of success. You said you “...have not really had much success with it.” but you have had some success by your own description. This is proof you are certainly capable of further success.

    “I've tried to 'not have any expectations' and stuff like that, and although the occasions where I've done that have probably been the best, I'm still unable to get past the same point.” As Yoda said to Luke - “Do or do not, there is no try, that is why you fail.” I still struggle with this same phenomenon of having expectations, I have to reassure myself that even though I know the pleasure possibilities of any session are unlimited my body will give me only what it wants to give and I need to be grateful for those gifts.

    Reflecting upon your “best” sessions, when you were able to drop expectations, you may find the key to further success. “There have been two or three occasions in the year when I've managed to get to the point of having quite strong repetitive anal contractions and feel as though I'm moments away from getting into the uncontrollable cycle of spasms leading to an orgasm, but the moment never comes, and I just end up getting frustrated.” This sounds very much like the “...circling the drain...” description, see 'Buster's thread What exactly is a Super-O ?.

    I also agree with 'helixbill' about dropping notions associated with 'should of', 'could of' and 'would of'. These are just self imposed stumbling blocks. Perhaps instead of thinking in terms of getting your Aneros to 'work' for you, you might consider allowing yourself to 'play' with it. :lol: I believe it is important that we approach Aneros use with a sense of joy, playfulness and adventure in exploring the unknown depths of our sensuality. Allow your body to lead your mind into that mysterious world.
  • scubdiv said:

    Hi,

    So I bought the aneros mgx before christmas last year and have not really had much success with it.
    There have been two or three occassions in the year when i've managed to get to the point of having quite strong repetitive anal contractions.



    Don't deny that's not success. In fact, this is a huge jump of success then you're giving it credit for. It's a remarkable milestone to overcome and you got there! Congrats!!

    scubdiv said:

    I feel as though I'm moments away from getting into the uncontrollable cycle of spasms...



    Excellent, this is what it usually feels like for me all the time and if you just keep that "feeling" it will build and build until it's almost so intense and then it will fade away for awhile and come back. Only this time, it will be much faster and even more stronger than before. Ahh yes, the p-waves is what they call them. From the sounds of it, I reckon you have already experienced some p-waves and didn't even know it!

    scubdiv said:

    ...leading to an orgasm, but the moment never comes, and I just end up getting frustrated.



    First, please describe what you perceive an orgasm to be. (What does the word orgasm mean to you?). Try not to get too frustrated. I think you might be thinking of an orgasm as the traditional ejaculation since that is the only thing we really have to relate to. If I'm mistaken then I apologize in advance. However, I really do encourage you to not give up or get too frustrated with this. It does take awhile to be able to understand our body and adjust to these new feelings we've never felt before.

    Remember, to be UPSET over what you don't have is to WASTE what you do have!

    scubdiv said:

    I've tried to 'not have any expectations' and stuff like that, and although the occasions where I've done that have probably been the best, i'm still unable to get past the same point. I've tried the hypnaerosession cd and tried relaxing completely before starting contractions, but still no progress.



    You're trying way to hard. Why are you trying? Do you have a set goal in the back of your mind even though you think you may not have one? Looks like your brain has a secret goal buried deep inside that you'll have to release and let go. There can be no goals when going into an aneros session. Once there are goals you tend to force things to happen and your mind shuts out the little sensations that you'd feel.


    scubdiv said:

    was thinking that actually the progasm might give me better results because it's bigger, i sometiems feel like the mgx is very small...and i am over 6ft 6...if that makes any difference.



    If you feel like the mgx is small and given your height I would suggest trying another model as you've had a good year to break in your mgx. The progasm is a great choice and I'm sure you'd be very happy with it.

    scubdiv said:

    I'm determined to get this to work...
    I'm desperate for some help with this!



    Patience young grasshopper!!! While I applause your determined attitude of not giving up, I want to caution the word "work." What are you determined to get work? If this determination is leading to set goals in your mind then you won't get anywhere.
    Again, this is something that no guide can help you with. Trying to figure out your mind is the most frustrating battle one faces when approaching their sessions. It's the leading cause why some give up too prematurely because they didn't realize how much the mind is involved in the process. Yes, it's the biggest hurdle to overcome - your mind plays tricks with you.

    Just relax and let go. No expectations ever! Enjoy each session for what it is. Don't want more because it will never come. :cry: :wink: :!: :idea: 8)
  • Please describe a session where you have had the most success. Try to be as detailed as you can from lubing up to taking out. Everything! No I'm not a pervert that gets off on aneros stories. :P No really I'm not!! :wink: :lol: We want to see if there's a place where you're going wrong in certain areas.
  • Hi guys, thanks for the tips...reading this again I do sound more desperate than i think i really am...though it was written after a bad session when i was tired, so i apologise!
    I've been reading the forums a lot since i bought the aneros but havent made an account until now, so thanks for the warm welcome!

    In reply to ArcticWolves, my best session (as far as i can remember) was having a shower, prelubricating, then inserting the lubed aneros, throughout the whole session i was watching porn, after about 10 minutes of lying on my side, i started light contractions and slowly built them up, i changed to lying on my back and massaging my nipples which often seems to help and after about 30 minutes i was beginning to feel more powerful repetitive contractions and a sense of being 'lifted up' and relaxed, now i'm not too familiar with the terminology, but this certainly wasnt what i think you call a super-o and i felt like i had to put quite a lot of physical and mental effort into staying in that state. After 15-20 minutes of trying to hold this and trying a few different contractions etc. i stopped and called it a day, as although a nice feeling, it didnt feel like it was going anywhere and i was getting tired.
    What also seemed to work well was keeping the perinium area completely dry by prelubing first then using only a small amount of lube on the aneros itself which i hadnt really done before.

    In terms of buying the progasm, do you think it likely that if i havent made much progress with the mgx then i'll have the same issues with the progasm? I was thinking that more direct contact may help, as at the moment it sometimes feels like the aneros is only properly touching my prostate when i'm holding the contraction all the way in.

    First, please describe what you perceive an orgasm to be.


    I perhaps incorrectly used the word orgasm in that context, in terms of my post i meant the term to mean the super-0 or a point in the session when i feel euphoric or out of control of the contractions.

    I mentioned i watched porn throughout the whole session, rather than just before it, does anyone have an opinion on whether this is a good idea or not?

    I shall try again this evening and report on any progress!
  • Personally, I have never used porn in any of my sessions so I'm not sure if that is a hindrance to your sessions or not. It can definitely be seen that you're "trying" way to hard which explains why you got tired. It's great that you have discovered the pleasure of nipple stimulation. It's a wonderful addition to add to your sessions! If it feels like you're putting in too much effort to stay in that state of mind then you're trying way to hard and I suggest for you to take a break for the night or try again in a few hours when you're more relaxed.

    Using your aneros is all about relaxation. Is watching porn for you relaxing or is it more about your cock? (Ooo he said cock!! yes I can talk dirty you know. :lol: ) If this is the case then I suggest for you to find something that will relax you more. Maybe some music or maybe nothing at all. You HAVE to be in the right state of mind when using your aneros. If you're letting other stuff get in the way (porn) then you might just want to see what it's like without it. It can't hurt. Give it a shot.

    I also highly suggest for you to forget about feeling euphoric or out of control. Thinking about it during your sessions is a big no no as this could lead to expectations, which only leads to forcing things to happen. The end result is frustration. Just relax and leave all your ideas and anything else you have behind you. Surrender your body to the aneros experience. 8)
  • Couple of things:

    • 1) In my opinion porn is a distraction. Fantasy is the way to go.
      2) Don't think of an aneros session as goal oriented. In this fast paced world many of us get caught up in achieving various goals and check them off the list. I have this problem. I think, "This is going to be a great session, a building block to getting to the super-o." It's never gonna happen that way, because there is the expectation that something is going to happen.
      3) If possible try to forget that the aneros is in you. I know it's hard. But if you are worked up with a good fastasy and get in that zone it can happen. And if that does, if all works well, the aneros will take over.
      4) Experiment with using in the morning and evening. One time of the day might be better than the other for you.
  • zanebluezaneblue
    Posts: 224
    Have you tried my diet? Also I would suggest trying after a long drive (like an hour, especially highway driving). The vibrations from the car can help wake up your nether regions. :)
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,602
    Hi scubdiv & welcome,

    All great advice above -- particularly Zaneblue's diet tips.

    While we're on diet--fiber+probiotics help! I'm an ibs-a who's easily triggered by glycerin I avoid it and minimize rectal use of all water based lubes. Think small when it comes to douche/rinse. The Wiki is a bit generous. Two or three shots of 2-oz. does the job. I find that more tends to entrap and sometimes triggers a spasm. I'm ibs-a and sensitive to glycerin lubes--didn't know that glycerin was a hazard and lost most of last June to ibs. I've got a 60 yr blackbelt in ibs-a. If you've got an issue with ibs-a or ibs-c toss me a PM. Look elsewhere for answers on ibs-d -- your own doc might have a suitable med for that.

    Remember that a characteristic of the human male is, "wanting to fix it." And, wanting to, "make it OK." We try to fix our households, the tears of our friends and our children. We feel responsible for 'fixing/solving' the issues at our businesses ... and so it goes. We compare our Aneros sessions with the sessions of another and try to 'fix' ours. That's what Arctic Wolves and The Bishop understand but didn't mention. This isn't about 'not trying' it's about, 'don't fix it.' And to go just a bit beyond ArcticWolves statement -- don't make comparisons between your session and others. Your session is your own...period. The manufactuer doesn't award trophies for the loudest moan. See-- I just broke this rule and offered you a fix.

    So much for "dont's." As an Alfa-male multi-orgasmic wannabe here are some things I'm trying and that seem to be working:

    1. Find arousal paths that don't waste your energy and that do enhance your oxygenation. Your brain runs on oxygen and blood suger. You should arrive at brain orgasm with reserves of both. Not, as a limp pollywog gasping in a pool of sweat. Later on, study the management of energy during arousal -- I'm no expert. Listen to the experts who sing of directing their arousal energy from one chakra to another

    2. Find arousal activities that keep you focused and keep you away from brain noise and wandering thoughts. Alana, on track CD-1 does a good job of this however she offers more anal focus than than I prefer. I've adopted sensuous activities like finger stim or hamstring excitation that don't involve my butt. I use those though to apply my sensuous arousal to a visualization of my prostate. I borrowed some of that from Alana and I think it may have originated in a post by Cockadoodle several years ago. Look through old Forum threads for related arousal schemes.

    3. About porn. I'm with the posts in this thread. Good sex or good arousal isn't a spectator sport. I'd add "visualization" to The Bishop's mention of Fantasy. Think of Wolves videos as 'instructional.' Look for the muscle moves, don't sweat his ass. or his dick. If AW's demos arouse you, that's OK but it's not going to contribute to your session.

    Enjoy! hth.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    Hey, Rook;

    Have you tried either Probe Thick Rich or Slippery Stuff Gel ? I personally like Slippery Stuff Gel the best, not only because it's super thick (can't pump the last 4 oz out of the 16 oz bottle, it's so thick), but a study was done on absorption in the rectum and lower intestine, and Slippery Stuff Gel was not absorbed. It's a great lube, but you'll have to use an applicator, though.
  • valliant
    Posts: 120
    With my recent succes in having dry orgasms i'd like to share my findings:

    Over the 2 years i've been on this journey i felt once and a while an intense feeling of what was out there.
    It really took of when i bought the eupho and had regular sessions ever since,don't know it's because the eupho or having regular sessions.
    I took babysteps at a time,just progressing very slow but the most important thing is when your having some nice feelings,to let your mind now it feels good no matter how small they are so that in future sessions your body recognize them and they will be getting more intense over time i can asure you
    I think what's happening between your ears is just as important than the rest.
    You are much further in your journey than i was at that time so don't give up.
    It's strange but some of my best sessions were the ones i didn't want to have one so try to have regular sessions and see how it goes.
    I never had any expectation before a session,i would just enjoy the feelings it would give me.
    Good luck in your journey ahead.
  • Quit trying to have a Super-O!!! That is setting a goal and "trying" to achieve it.

    I have been using the Aneros for about a year and have not had a Super-O yet and frankly don't care if I ever do or not. Why? Because I am on a journey and learning to let my body take the 'drivers seat'. I have had pleasure waves, mini-o's and a lot of other marvelous feelings. The wonderful thing is no 2 sessions are exactly alike.

    I have a 'dud' session about every 7 or 8 sessions. In that case I quit after 15 or 20 minutes and realize there will be another day and another session.

    For me porn is a distraction. If I am watching porn during a session I may be inadvertently 'trying' to achieve the feelings the porn stars seem to be having. This is about ME, not someone else.

    Concentrating on the sensations I am feeling is my only 'goal'. At 64 years of age I have learned more about my own sexuality than I did in the first 63 years of my life. I spent so many years trying (there's that word again) to perform and make someone else feel good that I lost my sense of self awareness

    Imagine yourself as a passenger in the back seat of a car going somewhere you have never been before. As a passenger you are free to take in all the scenery and beauty of nature. From the back seat you can't see what is up ahead so you are not concentrating on the 'destination'.
  • helixbill beautiful comment I wanted to write up your post a very beautiful post thank you again 8) 8)
  • alvalv
    Posts: 179
    zaneblue said:

    Have you tried my diet? Also I would suggest trying after a long drive (like an hour, especially highway driving). The vibrations from the car can help wake up your nether regions. :)

    cause of accident - Had a massive orgasm - a new one for the insurance company to sort out.

    Try doing one hour exercise with aneros inserted on a cross trainer or stepper - while doing the exercise you have a pleasant feeling but beware; walking out of the gym might be a problem as you will have shaky knees.