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A question for gay/bi forum users.....
  • After having another incredible Super-O last night, I got to wondering if gay/bi men ever experience these during anal intercourse? Can any of you guys out there shed any light on this please? :)
  • MarkM
    Posts: 33
    HappyChap,

    While this product will never replace the feelings of intimacy of being with a partner, I have to say that on a purely physical level I never experienced a Super O or anything close to it prior to discovering the Aneros. Interestingly enough I have Super O's fairly consistently when I'm with someone now. It is SO great! I guess it must be the "re-wiring" that we hear tell about so often around here.


    MarkM
  • MarkM said:

    HappyChap,

    While this product will never replace the feelings of intimacy of being with a partner, I have to say that on a purely physical level I never experienced a Super O or anything close to it prior to discovering the Aneros. Interestingly enough I have Super O's fairly consistently when I'm with someone now. It is SO great! I guess it must be "re-wiring" that we here tell about so often around here.


    MarkM



    Thats pretty interesting :P must watch out for this now I've started to have the super o's
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    I would have to agree with Mark. I have had moderate bottom anal experience and I never felt that my partner's penis was massaging my prostate. There was other emotional and physical feelings going on. I have had my prostate massaged by another person's finger which I enjoyed dry O's.
  • alvalv
    Posts: 179
    Being straight, may I ask the gay/bi members, while being a bottom are you just a passive receiver or are you active by giving your partner squeezes and try to suck and push as learned with the Aneros? If the latter is the case I can imagine that the top has the greatest of times.
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    Alv, I would say I was rather passive as far as contractions and using voluntary muscles are concerned. I would have been afraid of pushing the penis out and making it uncomfortable to receive the other guy in me. JMHO.
  • atm853
    Posts: 51
    Thank you to the one who asked this question for our community because I was thinking about this the other day... being that my first anal experience was with aneros, and so far its been fun, but no where near the super O, it got me thinking about actually bottoming. However I'm afraid its not going to be anywhere pleasurable as aneros. However I found this clip of two guys having sex and one who seems to be having some type of super orgasm just by bottoming... it seems he found his gspot...dont really know if hes just acting or if its real but when it comes to fucking Im sure you wont be all smiles for no reason right? let me know what you think about this and to those who have had super O's while bottoming was this similar to your experience? ps to the hetero community, becareful as you might not want to see this, but I think it can be helpful to those out there wondering why some gay men like being bottoms only...enjoy and I look forward to hearing from you...p.s if this affends well it was not my intention.
    http://www.gaytube.com/media/39959/Lance_Bennett_gets_FUCKED./
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    I watched it and I really think the whole thing is staged.
  • hulahula
    Posts: 212
    thank you for the above answers. I have always been curious as to what it must feel like to be on the receiving end of anal penetration. I don't know how I could ever discuss this with a gay man in person.
  • rickg said:

    I watched it and I really think the whole thing is staged.



    To some extent the video is staged because they have to moan or it won't sell but the orgasm he is having is definitely real and not staged! I laughed so hard at the dirty talking and moans though. Excellent video and this is a real Super-O. Look how much his body is involved. He's out of breath, he's gripping that couch for his life, he's smiling because pretty much he can't control it and he cant' control his head (notice how he's trying to bury it deeper in the couch). If you watch carefully, a lot of this he CANNOT control it's his body just reacting.

    The thing that blows me away is it's his "first" time.
  • atm853
    Posts: 51
    I have to agree with frostfire, I think there are alot of things that are staged in the clip and yes the dirty talk is quite funny, actually, but when it comes to the 2nd guy bottoming, his face kind of loses control and his eyes roll around his head, Even I havent had a super O I do remember feeling very good that I start to laugh and my face kind of loses control... but then again it is just porn...lol..

    either way, if any one out there while having anal sex has similar feelings or something like this guy, it would be great to hear from you!! p.s have any of you lost control while having a super O with someone else that you could actually hurt the other person from the involuntary spasms?
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,473
    Thanks all for this thread discussion and the Bennett example.

    99% of porn, straight, bi or gay, is dry lifeless cardboard. Occasionally, very rarely there is something where the "models" are not performing to the standard script and only half there at best, but you can see feel hear the humanity and chemistry and that makes it a celebration instead of a degradation.

    To me, although I may be naive because I haven't watched internet porn until I started these practices over two years ago, but I agree with FrostFire and atm853. In my practice with mrs. a, when we have moved through our energies exchanges and varied techniques of Super-Oing, and her finger on my prostate takes me through great bursts of Super-O energies as we begin moving toward climax, her finger is her whole being presence and direct energetic link with my prostate as the then centre of my body/mind energetic being. What I feel then I feel Bennett experiencing in that vid.

    Even as I keep humping and pumping and savouring her G-spot sizzle with my penis pulsing, as we have continued and developed this joint prostates techniques, her finger now turns my prostate from a wonderful twitching buzz point into a living, moving dragon, a multi-pointed all triggering fire-breathing full bodied power station that has me deeply bellowing, and laughing/crying until the final explosive climax, which now can be either wet or dry and it does not matter which, the energies power now supersedes the old refractory issues.

    Simultaneously bottoming and topping each other, having previously done the male/female energies balancing in the same session is astounding, cosmic, connecting everywhere in every way; earthy and heavenly all at once and infinitely.

    With that perspective now, I feel my way back to my youthful gay relationship and my then voracious prostate. The curious thing then to me was that I got great feeling from the inanimate objects I used to massage my prostate and the inward chemistry of my solo explorations. Some of this was very acrobatic then: column mounted car gear shift handles, yacht engine control levers...

    Yet, with my homosex co-adventurer I found bottoming, pre-opened by my rocket dildos and auto-lubed, pleasurable in a minor anal stim and fullness sense, butt the prostate never really connected then. Never an orgasm or anything close. I topped him too, with little effect but his discomfort. After a short while, we did not really care for the penile/anal sex at all. I also have to say that it was always the case then that my Day After Effects were by far the most ecstatic and spectacular orgasmic events anyway.

    Who knows? All our journeys are unique. If I had had the prostate connection that Bennett apparently did in the vid, back then, perhaps I would have listed myself now as Bisexual rather than Straight-Bi in the Male Sexual Orientation Here Poll in the Community Polls.

    But you know, I don't think so. Perhaps the most convincing and natural statement Bennett made was rejecting that camera's question: "Does it make a difference that it was a penis in you?". Bennett without having to pause, says in effect no it was a person, implying that it's the whole of AJ's being the one in him that he was reacting to. I did not have that, even though my co-adventurer and I were great friends and continued experimenting with other sexual/personal connections awhile. It was then that I felt deeply that I knew I was not primarily attracted sexually to males. I still strongly feel on the hetero side of the bi fulcrum, butt/and still enjoy my yin energies and receptivity and openess as a whole person, and all my lesbian and gay and bi friends.

    Thanks again atm853 for that celebratory vid. I am curious and would appreciate hearing from bi and gay men here, with male partners, about any energies sharing and your experiences with that dimension, thanks.

    all the best integrating male/female yin/yang energies balancing and sexual/ecstatic expression all

    artform
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    I went back and looked at the video again. He MAY have had a Super O but I really think that this is the exception more than the rule. I would like to hear more personal experiences from gay and bi guys as well.
  • atm853
    Posts: 51
    First of all: Why cant I be married you artform? haha, just joking,

    Thank you for your input I appreciated that, and why can't my sexual energy be like that...but Im still young and learning and growing, so I guess I have to just sit back and relax and feel the vibes all around and inside me... P.s MarkM if you could talk a little more about your experiences that would be great, or any one bi/gay or here is something I learned from a film Hetero-flexible... thats kinda catchy artform, maybe you were hetero-flexible? who knows who cares, your a person and sexuality is within us all.... so lets hear some experiences
  • Well, I am bisexual and have had quite a few experiences. My first boyfriend could barely last once he started hitting my prostate with his cock. My ass started involuntarily contracting and well i bet you can guess what happened next. :lol:

    Some other experiences, with a different boyfriend, I found myself just trying to bury my face as hard/far as I can into the mattress or pillow. Then all of a sudden my head goes crazy and i just find myself wanting more and more! It's like you become a horny dog! :lol: :roll: :wink: :twisted:

    This is exactly what Bennett does when it starts getting good and I can relate to this video very well and say with confidence that was a super-O.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,473
    Well atm853! :lol:

    atm853 said:

    First of all: Why cant I be married you artform? haha, just joking,

    Thank you for your input I appreciated that, and why can't my sexual energy be like that...but Im still young and learning and growing, so I guess I have to just sit back and relax and feel the vibes all around and inside me... P.s MarkM if you could talk a little more about your experiences that would be great, or any one bi/gay or here is something I learned from a film Hetero-flexible... thats kinda catchy artform, maybe you were hetero-flexible? who knows who cares, your a person and sexuality is within us all.... so lets hear some experiences



    I'm sure you will find your ideal partner with time! :wink:

    Hadn't heard of Hetero-flexible before. After doing a googlesearch I happened to click this one first:
    http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/otherfunstuff/g/Heteroflexible.htm

    And I would say you are bang on! The first def fits perfectly. I have spoken out for GLBT rights, raised money for and am helping an MTF tranny through bureaucratic blockages to her SRS, and Mrs. a and I have many lesbian and gay friends. We are both involved in the arts/culture/design world as well as our wider community.

    The second def obviously fits since I have had the gay co-exploration event of my later teens. I had and have no objections to gay life in general and understand/empathize with the reasons for those aspects that are simply not me. Some, including strangers, thought I was queer in my youth and my gay co-exploration was a question of "just figuring it out" with a similarly inclined close male friend.

    Some men can seem somewhat feminine in body language, speech patterns, and other attitudes and behaviour and be straight completely. I know of such cases where they have no idea about the GLBT world. In some cases, such as mine, that can be because they were raised almost exclusively by females due to chronic illnesses as in my case, or due to family circumstances, as in the case of a fellow who attends our church with his wife, but has more feminine gestures and speech than many women. All that is formed in the first two or three years of life. Like genetics, we don't get to choose our early childhood development experience. I should say I have not regretted mine. :D

    Would I have a gay relationship again? Not as long as Mrs. a and I are what we are together and remain so deeply bonded over 40 years to date. I am the type that pours all the core love energy into one relationship, a monogamous natural. But I have no physical, philosophical, spiritual/ethical or other objections, if circumstances changed, to a male relationship other than some medical issues, and of course the right personal chemistry. However, I think the chances are largely that I would be attracted to another female relationship ahead of a male one.

    It is possible for males (and females!) to share these orgasmic/life-force/spiritual energies without physical contact and even at a distance as in the Heartgasms of KSMO or even through comments/energy in the chats. I think this form of openness and male bonding friendship is the kind of revolution that this Aneros site/community, KSMO and others of the current male sexual revolution, based on prostate health and MMO living, is all about. IMHO, it is an essential and an extremely positive social/cultural development. Up with Hetero-flexible!

    So our Straight-bi category in the Male Orientation Poll here captures Hetero-flexible well if you read the posts there. And if you haven't "voted" for yourself there please do! http://www.aneros.com/forum/male-sexual-orientation-here-t3204.html

    all the best wherever you are on the marvellous spectrum of male sexual responses all

    artform
  • Thanks a lot for all the replies everyone. :D During my last Super-O, at the point where I had lost all control and nearly passed out I had the image of a guy hammering away into me..... :) Just wondered if my obviously arousing fantasy about that happening at the height of a Super-O, and being very pleasurable, was even vaguely realistic or not. :)

    artform - what is KSMO? Did a quick Google search and can't find anything about it!?!
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    HappyChap,

    www.multiples.com
  • MarkM
    Posts: 33
    With regard to this video or any porn video, it's difficult to be certain about anything. This thing is billed as "Lance Bennett's First Bottom" as if their heralding some great event. LOL. And the nasty talking partner in this romp gives the impression that this is staged. But as FrostFire noted there are moments in the video where it at least appears that there are some involuntary muscle spasms going on. The most convincing thing here to me is not what we see during the encounter itself, but afterward. The way that he describes or tries to describe the experience and is befuddled, seems genuine. The what was that quality, where he seems to step outside of being a paid "talent" is telling. It's either that or he is indeed a very good actor (which I seriously doubt).

    As for this guy having had his "G-spot" slammed as the filmmaker is alleging off camera, I doubt that. The position they used (doggy style) would almost certainly prevent that. In this position the prostate is underneath and is curved away from the center line. So as the partner is penetrating straight in he's missing it. The "top" in this escapade would have to have a penis shaped like a candy cane for him to make serious contact with the guy's prostate in this position and even then, it would only be on the out-stroke. I've found that being on top of my partner, with him inside me affords me far more prostate contact than what they were doing. Still and all, as many of us know, it is not necessary to contact the prostate directly to have a Super O. Truth is, I don't know that anybody would want someone to be slamming their prostate head on anyway.

    MarkM
  • Thanks for the link Buster. Shame you have to pay for the info though.... don't think I will be doing. :)

    Had another session with the Helix today, but no Super-O unfortunately, just mini-ones.... seems like the circumstances have to be just right.... Oh well, it's always fun trying! :D
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,473
    Bump! ...so to speak... Common ground with current Pegging discussion.

    artform
  • I would agree that in typical doggy style, the prostate is not much stimulated; and it would require either a heavily downward-bent dick or a huge one to affect it much. The two main ways that the prostate can be hit are when you are on your stomach being entered and your partner adjusts his angle by moving up on you; or by 'riding' the top, who is lying on his back, and leaning back. My partner loves to do it this way and it gives him a nice prostate massage.

    That said, getting topped is not all about the prostate; the whole rectum is full of very sensitive areas and it's a very intense experience, ranging from ming-blowing to painful, depending on the partner, the lube, and how relaxed/accustomed you are.