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  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Ok, I'm 18, a virgin but confident and not worried about it, and am literally a mouse click away from buying an Aneros.

    Here's the thing, I'm in a bit of an emotional state right now, and I need some serious, honest answers to some questions:

    I'm 18, so as you can imagine, I think about one thing: sex. I used to think about philosophy and politics and stuff, but now, every waking minute of my life I am distracted by thoughts of sex.

    Just recently I have been struck by really quite a strong bout of depression, and the reason for it is going to sound pretty strange: I have become... agonisingly jealous of female sexuality.

    It seems to be that men get the raw deal with sex. We get dick that can be gotten off one way, and once you've blown your load, that's pretty much it for 15+ minutes at least. What's more the orgasm is pretty pneumatic and limited to the groin.

    Women on the other hand get, on top of highly sensitive nipples, a clitoris, vagina and g spot, each with unique orgasms, each seemingly light years more intense than ours.

    I have become MORBIDLY jealous of this. It actually sent me into a severe few days of depression, because at my age I consider sex the ultimate in life, inevitably, and therefore I feel as if I have been relegated at birth to inferior amounts of pleasure.



    But I realise there is this thing called the prostate. Now, I have tried trying to stimulate it with my prostate and haven't really gotten anywhere. Once or twice I thought I might have had a feeling there, but I couldn't be sure. I don't even know if I've found it, everything reacts the same and feels the same in there.

    My first question is this: will the Aneros make finding the prostate easier? If I have failed to stimulate it with my finger or... *cough* vegetables, is there any chance the Aneros can?

    Secondly: Is the anal orgasm I hear about, induced by the Aneros, different to the regular penile orgasm? Could this be considered intense enough to be another kind of orgasm for men?

    Thirdly: Could the orgasms and super Os I hear about, regardless of how hard they are to obtain, be reasonably considered to match/beat the level of intensity of a fall on g-spot orgasm in a woman? I know this is almost impossible to answer, but if anyone has experience around g spot orgasms, how would they compare?

    and finally, this question is a little different

    I recently read that the hormone responsible for the refractory period after ejaculation has been identified and an inhibitor is in the works. Does anyone know anything about this and when they'll be ready?

    Another reason for my vast jealousy is that women can have multiple orgasms one after another - can you imagine how great multiple penile orgasms would be considering how strong they are once you've emptied your balls? Say you had 5 in a row, the 5th would be eye watering!



    Basically, I'm hoping the Aneros is key to unlocking a world of orgasms for me far superior to the simple ejaculatory ones I am now used to and even a bit bored off, and level the playing field with women.
  • johntrevy
    Posts: 221
    Um...Brian??Darwin??anyone um there??
    I would like to answer, but im not a jedi yet:P
    To Brian, or Darwin you listen. And listen you shall. *Fades into super-o zone*
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    That's what worries me though, if I were a girl asking on a message board for women about how I could have stronger than normal orgasms, everyone and their mother could chime in with tips and toys about how to massage the g spot and other things simulatenously to give mind blowing orgasms.

    But the fact that seemingly so few men have even heard of super-Os, let alone achieve these super-Os, is worrying me that these are either fake, freak occurances or only marginally stronger than a regular orgasm.


    I mean, check out this video: http://www.redtube.com/2837

    Look at the woman there - she has practically lost control of her body she is in so much pleasure, screaming in ecstasy.

    Even my strongest normal penile orgasm won't even nearly bring about convulsions and I've never had an orgasm strong enough I've not been able to keep silent.


    If women can achieve this and men are stuck with refractory penile orgasms, I kid you not, it's gonna take me a long, long time to get over it. I am extremely sexual and can't bear the thought that I'm missing out on what women can achieve.
  • TripperTripper
    Posts: 250
    Anonicos,

    Wow. You have done some great research for only 18 years of age! But, I can't help feelling that you are missing a couple of years of pure sexual fun. If you were to find a "partner" and embark on a mutual sexual, fondling, experimentation, and loving journey together that might provide a key piece of the puzzle you are looking for....

    I know you mentioned you are a virgin but it also sounds like you are ready to implode.

    There are many here who are doing both the Aneros experimentation and the mutual exploration at the same time......but, please don't miss out on the mutual part of the journey.

    Then, have fun!


    Tripper
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Tripper said:

    Anonicos,

    Wow. You have done some great research for only 18 years of age! But, I can't help feelling that you are missing a couple of years of pure sexual fun. If you were to find a "partner" and embark on a mutual sexual, fondling, experimentation, and loving journey together that might provide a key piece of the puzzle you are looking for....

    I know you mentioned you are a virgin but it also sounds like you are ready to implode.

    There are many here who are doing both the Aneros experimentation and the mutual exploration at the same time......but, please don't miss out on the mutual part of the journey.

    Then, have fun!


    Tripper



    Two weeks ago I would have completely agreed with you. I had decided not to get an Aneros until I had done the basics with a girl already.

    But now I've got this in my head I'm not kidding, I've gotten myself in a right state. I'm serious, a few days ago I think I might have been at my lowest ever in my life over this issue of male orgasms being weaker than women's. It crushes me.


    I haven't been ready for a relationship until just recently, but I'm fairly sure I'm ready and there is a girl I'm working on right now and I think it could go very well.


    But as soon as this thought struck me, everything ground to a halt. I can't bring myself to pleasure a girl knowing that I can never achieve that level of pleasure myself. I feel compelled to buy an Aneros and convince myself even just once that I can reach the same heights as women so that I can full heartedly enter into a relationship of sexual discovery.


    Seriously I need help on this issue. I have even been considering therapy, but considering how few men have even heard of super-Os, I don't think they could give me any actual advice on how to level the playing field - because THAT'S what I want to do, I want to achieve as much a pleasure as that video I just posted. Period.


    During that phase I think I masturbated about 10 times in 12 hours. Each orgasm was weak and forgetable. Barely more powerful than a sneeze. I kept thinking if only I had a clitoris and g spot, I could be satisfying myself, but no, I'm stuck with this mediocre thing. I was completely unsatisfied and felt terrible.


    Terrible thing to think I know :(
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    Anonicos,

    Sounds like your still dealing with the issues you brought up back in June. Did you follow up on any of the advice offered back then ? I suggest you first go back and re-read that thread - 18 and ready but... - and members input. Also read the thread posted by 'Fluflu' - just turned 18.... Unless you have some odd anatomical abnormalities almost any one of the Aneros products will be able to stimulate your prostate. The fact that it is difficult for you to digitally find/stimulate your own prostate while simultaneously trying to enjoy the sensations to be derived is precisely why the "hands free" design can work effectively.

    Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm either, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution possible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possessed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.

    While there are varieties of orgasms that may be associated with these various body parts, I seriously doubt that women's are "light years more intense than ours." There are bound to be differences between men and women regarding the ability to experience levels of pleasure, but I submit to you that because 90% of all your physical stimuli regarding sex and pleasure is processed through that marvelous bio-computer (your brain), through your own mental effort and development you may actually far exceed the experience of average women to receive pleasure.

    The super-O is not fake, while I have only experienced a couple of them, I can assure you they are real and are far more intense on a combined mind/body scale than a traditional penile orgasm. I have experienced partial body convulsions from Aneros induced dry-O's which have lasted many times longer than the fleetingly short time of the penile ejaculatory orgasm but seem every bit as intensely pleasurable.

    I checked out the video you cited, guess what, you are capable of experiencing that much pleasure as well. Check out the redoubtable 'darwin's recent video posting - http://www.xtube.com/play_re.php?v=99MEOK7HBCz to get an inkling of the possibilities. Multiple male orgasms (non-ejaculatory) are indeed possible. I don't think you should hold your breath for hormone research to find a chemical fix to male refractory periods, especially when more natural multi-O's are already possible, actually frequent ejaculations may very well reduce (reduction of arousal) your ability to successfully obtain a super-O. It is quite understandable to have had extremely weak orgasms after 10 in a 12 hour period, even when I was your age I could not have managed that! Good God man everyone has to have time to fully recharge their batteries after intense orgasmic sessions.

    You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankful for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Such a great post anonicos. Really, perfect.

    You say that perhaps the clitoris is one edge women might have, but I'm not interested in anything other than the maximum pleasure. If the maximum strength female orgasm is comparable to a maximum male p-spot orgasm, I can be at peace with all this.

    It's just the thought that I might be denied the ultimate because of my gender, but I am perfectly open to accepting that it is possible for men to achieve that height too - I just need to be reassured that super-Os are as powerful as those intense female orgasms seem to be.


    I know it sounds crazy but it's a real rut I've dug myself into. I guess I'll have to try it for myself.


    I'm very interested in refractory hormone suppression though - true full penile multiple orgasms would be intense, and I think it could be an entirely new direction for male sexuality again. Does nobody have any info on this?
  • TripperTripper
    Posts: 250
    Anonicos,

    Hey, 86% of women don't realize they have a g-spot and also have the ability to have multiple orgasms.

    94% of men don't know they have a prostate with sexual potential. 99.6% of men have never had a multiple orgasm, dry orgasm, or Super "O" unless they climbed a pole at age 9 (search on "pole")

    Begin that relationship with your girlfriend that you mention and discover with each other the sexual potential you each have.....

    If you are very lucky, your girlfriend will lovingly insert the Aneros for you at some point in your relationship.

    This forum is very supportive so we want to help and would love to hear your feedback as you progress. How about starting an Anonicos blog on the forum?

    Tripper
  • Adam
    Posts: 7
    I have to admit that I, too, became interested in the aneros partially because I am a bit jealous of what women can experience. It seems to blow mens' orgasms away.

    However, something has to be said for the experience of intercourse, sharing that moment with her.

    Don't get your expectations up too high at first. I, at least, haven't managed to feel much from the aneros yet, haha.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    I know you guys are probably reluctant to give me a straight comparison because you probably think I'm coming at the whole thing from the wrong angle, but I agree, I know that the intimate relationship direction is far more important and even powerful than "comparing orgasms". And I'll go that route.

    But I think I will buy an Aneros.

    And I'm really looking to see if I can find a couple of successful stories of guys that feel they have experienced super-Os that seemed to be as strong as or stronger than the most pwerful female orgasm they have witnessed.

    I know these things vary between individuals, but to put my mind at rest I really need to know that there is the possibility that the playing field really is level, regardless of what it takes to get there. I just can't stand anything that pre-determines my life based on genes - pleasure, social status, attractiveness... anything.


    I don't care how long it takes to get there, I'll put the time in. If I understand this correctly, at least male sexuality is reliable - if you put the time in, we will achieve these things. I suppose even if some women can achieve that pleasure much easier (if they can), some never cum at all, and some never that hard.


    I just have to know that playing field is level, I really do :( Sorry if I sound like a headcase.

    NOTE: For the record I've been masturbating all night, getting myself wild over true erotic stories on the net. But the orgasm is an anti-climax all the time, I just end up feeling let down. I suppose it's as much a state of mind as physical pleasure - but I want both of those aspects, not just mental.
  • Onthepath
    Posts: 105
    Hi Anonicos,

    Your prostate is located about 2 inches up your rectum or up to about the second knuckle of your middle finger when inserted in the rectum. Be sure your finger is well lubricated and trimmed short with no sharp edges. You should feel a walnut sized gland towards the front of your body. If you are lying on your back, your finger would need to be curved up. You can stimulate your prostate with your finger with a gentle “come hither” motion but stretching that far for any length of time can get tiresome. That’s where the Aneros can help with its hands free massage. Some men find prostate massage very pleasureable and can ejaculate from it. For other men, it isn’t very sensitive and they need penile stimulation as well in order to ejaculate. For others, prostate massage can be unpleasant.

    Anal orgasms for me are in some ways very different from a penile orgasm, yet in other ways similar. It’s different in that they occur in the anal region and each contraction sends a wave of full body tingling through my body whereas with a penile orgasm I feel only a single wave of full body tingling. The contractions themselves are nowhere near as intense as with a penile orgasm, but the contractions and orgasms last longer.

    I haven’t achieved a Super O myself (I’ve been a user for over a year now), but I think those that have would agree that the intensity and duration of it would match or even exceed what a woman who is multi-orgasmic feels. Of course, there’s no way to truly answer that. You can never know what another person is feeling or how they interpret those feelings. An intense orgasm in one person may not be that big of a deal to another.

    I haven’t heard anything about the hormone inhibitor that you are referring to. I wonder if there’s a medical reason for its development. It sounds like something that could easily be abused and become the next party drug.

    I think you need to put things into perspective regarding your jealousy towards female sexuality. I don’t know the percentages, but there are many women who have never had an orgasm in their entire life! Think what it would be like to be a woman and be inorgasmic. I imagine that they would be very jealous of other women who are orgasmic and also of men as well. Compared to the vast majority of men who can easily achieve an orgasm, some may say that men have it easy. Some women, like some men, seem to be pre-wired to be multi-orgasmic. Most of us, though, have to work at it.

    Keep in mind that if you decide to buy an Aneros, there are no guarantees that you will achieve a Super O. Hopefully, you will be able to experience some pleasure with it. But I would caution you to not set your expectations so high as you will be setting yourself up to be disappointed. You can’t force the Super O to happen, you have to allow it to happen. You need to relax, be patient, and enjoy each session for what it brings you. Being 18 and so full of sexual energy, many people on this forum would recommend that you wait until you are older before you start using an Aneros. Using it can be addictive which is something you might not be ready for.

    You have the power to enjoy multiple orgasms now. I’m not referring to multiple ejaculations although that is possible too since you are so young. By practicing edging when you masturbate, you can experience that orgasmic bliss (just before you ejaculate) several times for long periods of time. You can feel pleasurable contractions, whole body tingling, and that euphoria that occurs just before you ejaculate. It does take practice and there will be many times that you will spill over the edge into an ejaculation, so don’t be too hard on yourself if you don’t master the technique right off the bat.

    You may also want to seek therapy if you continue to be severely depressed over this. None of us here can help you in that regard. I don’t think that the therapist has to have experience or knowledge of a Super O, but I’m sure they have encountered men who have had a jealousy of women who are multi-orgasmic. I would assume that a sexual therapist would encounter this situation more often than a general practice therapist would.

    I hope this helps you. If you decide to purchase the Aneors, I recommend the Helix by the way, please keep us informed of your progress and feel free to ask more questions.

    Onthepath
  • geewiz
    Posts: 8
    Anonicos,

    Hey Dude, you gotta take chicks off that pedestal man. I don't think their orgasms are any more intense than ours. We can have have multiple orgasms too, just not multiple ejaculations. The chick in that video, I'm not sure if that was ectasy or pain, pretty kinky stuff, she's blinfolded, wearing headphones, bound to a table with leather straps & chains, while being assualted with anal beads, a vaginal dildo and clit vibrator, not exactly your normal Friday night date scene. She's in sensory overload, you'd be too. This is definetly an out of the ordinary sexual adventure, I'm surprised that they didn't have her wearing nipple clamps too.

    If you think that you can have an orgasm as intense as a woman's, then you CAN, if you think you can't then you won't.

    "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think, we become" Buddha
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    Anonicos,

    Having the passion and ability to experience life in its wonderous diversity at an optimal personal level is a laudable virtue. I emphasize the word 'optimal' because at any particular point in ones's life you will never really know if you are AT an arbitrarily defined "maximum" level or have achieved any kind of "ultimate" experience. Life just isn't a rational, logical progression of events or learning courses. You know that day to day your own life experiences the ebb and flow of energy, feelings moods, etc.

    You may be setting yourself up to fall into a logic trap by adhering to the use of superlative words like "maximum", when it comes to intangibles such as feelings, thoughts, concepts, ideas, etc. How can you account for future developments and the possibility of events exceeding today's "maximum", as they most assuredly will. No one knows what the "maximum" possible level of pleasure is, nor can it be measured in any meaningful way. No one can assure you that male super-O's are as intense as you perceive female orgasms to be.

    Your premise that "...male sexuality is reliable" is not correct and the concept that "...if you put the time in, we will achieve these things" assumes a level of certainty that is unjustifiable. Male sexuality is dependent upon a great many psychological factors as well as physical conditions and will fluctuate markedly during ones lifetime, due to physical and psychic ailments, which can be very unpredictable. All life experiences are colored by probabilities for success/failure, happiness/sadness, pleasure/pain... we take actions based upon our optimal analysis of the information we have; that is the best we can do. With each new day, new information may become available which might alter our decisions/actions. There is no real certainty in human affairs.

    In a perfect world... your idealism for living at peak experience levels might be possible, but in the our collective world consciousness the reality can not sustain constant peak levels of intensity in any realm of existence. I am confident that you have the intelligence and wisdom to re-evaluate your world view in light of new knowledge as it is presented to you and that your life experiences will be enriched as your world view unfolds anew for you. Drop the "maximum" and "ultimate" from thought and open yourself to the unlimited potential of YOU !
  • Nikki
    Posts: 19
    rumel said:

    Anonicos,

    Having the passion and ability to experience life in its wonderous diversity at an optimal personal level is a laudable virtue. I emphasize the word 'optimal' because at any particular point in ones's life you will never really know if you are AT an arbitrarily defined "maximum" level or have achieved any kind of "ultimate" experience. Life just isn't a rational, logical progression of events or learning courses. You know that day to day your own life experiences the ebb and flow of energy, feelings moods, etc.

    You may be setting yourself up to fall into a logic trap by adhering to the use of superlative words like "maximum", when it comes to intangibles such as feelings, thoughts, concepts, ideas, etc. How can you account for future developments and the possibility of events exceeding today's "maximum", as they most assuredly will. No one knows what the "maximum" possible level of pleasure is, nor can it be measured in any meaningful way. No one can assure you that male super-O's as as intense as you perceive female orgasms to be.

    Your premise that "...male sexuality is reliable" is not correct and the concept that "...if you put the time in, we will achieve these things" assumes a level of certainty that is unjustifiable. Male sexuality is dependent upon a great many psychological factors as well as physical conditions and will fluctuate markedly during ones lifetime, due to physical and psychic ailments, which can be very unpredictable. All life experiences are colored by probabilities for success/failure, happiness/sadness, pleasure/pain... we take actions based upon our optimal analysis of the information we have; that is the best we can do. With each new day, new information may becomes available which might alter are decisions/actions. There is no real certainty in human affairs.

    In a perfect world... your idealism for living at peak experience levels might be possible, but in the our collective world consciousness the reality can not sustain constant peak levels of intensity in any realm of existence. I am confident that you have the intelligence and wisdom to re-evaluate your world view in light of new knowledge as it is presented to you and that your life experiences will be enriched as your world view unfolds anew for you. Drop the "maximum" and "ultimate" from thought and open yourself to the unlimited potential of YOU !

    Good Vibes to You !



    If you don't mind me inputing my 2cents. I just wanted to say that I am SERIOUSLY IMPRESSED with the quality of advice given to this young man.

    Nikki
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Yeah, the advice really is great guys, and like I said I realise that I am approaching this at a pretty absurd angle and making tons of generalisations and assumptions, but this comparison thing is just something that my mind seems to be compelling to make regardless. I'm taking in all the advice and fixing the picture of the situation in my head as best I can.

    I might get this Helix, but use it sparingly if at all until I find the right time in my life. 99( of the time I need that sharing element in an orgasm to make it feel satisfying, and that I realise Aneros can never give, but other times I just want to really blow my mind with raw pleasure.

    I'll play it cautiously.

    If I find out any more about this refractory period business though, I'll be sure to give you guys the heads up ;) Damn that refractory period, it's gotta go.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Sorry for the double post >.<<br />
    I found this: http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/01/29/female-orgasm-is-deadly-shock-for-men/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.notelay.com%2Farticles%2Fdid_you_know%2Ffemale_orgasm_deadly_for_men%2F&frame=true

    Female orgasm is a deadly shock for men? 10 times more powerful?

    Sorry but this makes me feel so, so, so depressed :( ... Please tell me that the Aneros renders that irrelevant :(((
  • Billy11
    Posts: 280
    Yes all very good advice for sure.
    Anonicos, You're 18 and this refractory period you speak of most likely is longer during masterbation. Seriously when you're with a girl and when you blow your load, it should take just minutes if not less to be ready for action again(especially when you have her helping you "back up"). Don't trip so hard on this refractory period. I remember when I was 18 I could go 3 or 4 times in a row for hours with no refractory period at all or if any just a minute or two. That shit changes though the older you get. Now when you're a bit older yes then it can suck so save the fretting for then and maybe by then they'll have that magic pill you speak of. And as intense of an orgasm that you can have with the aneros, you'll find great sex is right along side it.
    So stop putting the pussy on a pedestal. (sorry just had to use that quote from a hilarious movie)
  • Billy11
    Posts: 280
    Yes the aneros renders that irrelevant
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,196
    Anonicos-

    my advice to you is either get serious, in other words you are just putting us on (i remember having that sense strongly with your earlier thread), or, you should try to get professional counseling. the reason i say this is that your posts evidence obsessive thinking, and, even if you somehow solve this impossible quest, there will be another one following it. check out "cognitive behavioral therapy."

    darwin
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    It most definitely is obsessive thinking, it's intrusive and I find it hard to deal with, but I'm sure in a couple of weeks I would get over it, but without an actual solution I have this fear that it will constantly linger under the surface and undermine me.

    I mean, there's no reason male or female orgasms should be equal in strength, evolution isn't out to make things "fair". It seems pretty safe to assume that the average normal female orgasm is significantly more powerful than the average male orgasm - of course there are exceptions based on personal differences, but that generally seems to be that.

    What my problem is is I am so into orgasms, I consider them so integral to my sexuality and enjoyment, that the thought that I could *never* achieve the kind of pleasure many/some women can achieve just because I am a man, really effects me.

    I'm gonna get an Aneros, and try and kill this demon before it gets out of hand. Either I will gain the confidence that somewhere down the road I can have orgasms that reach the most powerful of a woman's, or I will gain the confidence that somewhere down the line I will at least be able to satisfy myself in solo pleasure as much as I'd like.

    I realise there are no guarantees but I just need the hope that I'm not condemned for life to inferior orgasms.


    There are two ways I need to solve this problem I'm having: 1) just plain get over thinking about it so much, which will happen in time, it's only recently I've been thinking this but also 2) I really do need Billy11 to be right.
  • Old WolfOld Wolf
    Posts: 114
    Anonicos,

    You've had all the advice regarding whether or not to get an Aneros so I'm not going to go there. You're a big boy, you've got enough to make an informed decision.

    I have been married 3 times and have had other female sexual partners besides. As onthepath points out, no-one can know what someone else, man or woman, experiences during orgasm.

    Having said that, it is my opinion, FWIW, that my latest Aneros Super-orgasms are at least as intense as, and often exceed in duration, anything I've witnessed in a woman. But then maybe my love-making technique isn't up to par... ;-)
    I have never witnessed a woman masturbate to orgasm to know what they can achieve solo, however. (Though I'd like to...)

    I have just got out of bed from a 3 hr session with my Helix and Progasm. I am fairly fast at reaching an orgasmic state, so it is safe to say that I was sine-waving through orgasms for 2hrs 50 minutes. I didn't finish with an ejaculation as I wanted to maintain the sexual tension. I am sitting here at the laptop with little trembles and flutters still happening. If I stop and concentrate I can bring on a small orgasm, and that's without an Aneros.

    Self or partner induced 'Wet' orgasms whilst in the midst of an Aneros induced Super O are out of this world and will leave you shaking and trembling so much that you will not care whether women have it better, I promise you.

    I would love to experience, first hand, a woman's orgasm. It is just an idle wish, though, because I know I never will. I don't get hung up on it.
    There are many ways a man can get hung up on matters sexual; size, duration, circumcized/intact, stamina, pleasure/orgasm giving ability etc., etc.; all fuelled by 'the media' and locker room mentality, much in the same way as women can be made to feel inadequate over their body image.

    So, three things:

    1. Try and stop obsessing over this. You won't ever know if your orgasms, now or in the future, equal or exceed those of a woman. Live with it. Therapy? An Aneros is a darn sight cheaper and, eventually, may answer your questions more adequately than a therapist ever could. And at the very least you will have fun.

    2. Aneros super Os and super Ts are good enough that you'll stop caring, but widely varying timescales to achieve this.

    3. Go for quality not quantity in your current masturbatory sessions. Practice edging, different lubes, pre-cum or cum in condom for a different sensation. etc., and make it last. The orgasm that comes (pun) after 2hrs intense edging is a completely different animal to that which follows 'a quick one off the wrist' no matter how many times one can 'do' it in a night

    I know I said three but here's a fourth...

    There should be enough in the stickies, particularly 'My Best...' & 'My First...' to convince you that a Super O, or a succession of them, is enough to keep anyone happy irrespective of what women experience.

    Have fun!

    Old Wolf
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Well Old Wolf, you just sold me an Aneros. I read your post and decided I'd go for it, and bought the Helix.

    I'll try and forget about comparisons - if it's generally agreed that the most intense orgasm the average female can experience is roughly the same as the most intense orgasm the average male can experience when factoring in the Aneros, I'm fine with it.

    Thanks for putting up with my in this headcase phase of mine guys, I'll report back at a later date with my experiences.

    EDIT: I've also been reading into some more reputable scientific resources and it seems like I really have been naive. 1/10 women never have an orgasm in their life... wow. 45% don't have it during sex, only masturbation, which I would hate because the orgasm surely brings you closer to the person giving it to you.

    And I've seen a lot of researchers and health care professionals noting that the kinds of pleasure shown in much of the media are impossible for most women and men, and only serve to deflate people if they can't achieve them.

    I know that's what is did for me.

    I suppose there are certain women capable of experiencing those far out orgasms we simply can't with our penis, but like I said, I ordered a Helix and maybe if I'm lucky and put the time in I'll be one of the fortunate few who can achieve that too.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Anonicos,

    It is very clear that many forum members have put a great deal of thought into answering your questions and concerns. (And had I been in town earlier in the week I might have done same.)

    But in reading their posts and your responses to them, and then going back to your original entry, one thing leaps out at me here. Why is a young man, 18 years of age who is ostensibly at the outset of his sexual exploration, preoccupied with feelings of resentment about the female sexual potential?

    I don't know if you're simply being cavalier with your choice of words, but the notion of someone of your age becoming clinically depressed or obsessed over these kinds of questions concerns me. Although I will withhold a judgement over whether this is symptomatic of OCD*, your statements about having persistent disruptive thoughts as these, and being unable to dismiss them, may be indication of something deeper.

    My sense about it is that you have some baggage here that you need to attend to. I think you would do a lot better to explore the Super O at such time as you are completely unfettered. Ultimately these kinds of thoughts can derail one on the path to the Super O anyway. So my advise is to clear the decks first. This may involve taking some time by yourself to try and confront this or if you're unable to do so .... seeking the help of a professional.

    Frankly, I don't believe that Aneros or the Super O is going to resolve this for you. The Super O shouldn't be about quelling some raging conflict inside of you. Long ago I advised people that they couldn' t force a Super O to happen. Super O's are not generated out of desperation but openness! If this is a true obsession....obtaining the Aneros will do nothing but feed the obsession. If on the other hand this is the result of some mischosen hyperbole....take some time and chill yourself out first! Your success may very well depend on it!

    Good luck,


    BF Mayfield


    * Having had some real life experience with OCD, I can tell you that if this does fall into the constellation of obsessive compulsive disorders, CBT can be quite helpful (as Darwin mentioned). That said, it is popular misconception that many people have these days that they attribute every nagging or bothersome behavior or habit to OCD. In reality OCD presents are far more complex clinical picture.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    I've been thinking about this for literally maybe 8 or 9 days, no longer, so I think it'd be a little premature to think about anything like OCD.

    This isn't really like me, I'm usually completely at peace with all things sexual, but something about this concept I struck on just... has really thrown me off.

    It's not resentment per se, because it doesn't effect how I think about women, only about men. And it's quite rooted in actualities: either the male orgasm is or isn't less intense.

    But another actuality, as has been pointed out, is that it's pointless to get upset about it because you can't change it. I figure the best thing I can do is try and get a more realistic view of orgasmic sexuality, because I think I'm suffering from taking porn too seriously, and simply attempt to improve my orgasms as much as I can.

    That conclusion I've arrived at in the last day or two and it's genuinely making me feel better. I think we all get these sudden, alarming thoughts on occasion and it's simply a matter or adapting the way you think to getting over it and changing your lifestyle because of it, that's what I'll try to do, I just think it hit me particularly hard because it was sexual, and came at an age where I can barely think about anything other than sex.
  • I know that kind of feeling, but I felt it not so strong. I've always wondered about the strength of the female orgasm. I was disappointed that men have to masturbate with some porn, while women experienced some kind of deeper sexuality and pleasure.

    My whole life I was able to get normal orgasms in a quick order, with 2-5 min. between them. I can masturbate for 2 hours without cumming. I know that porn is the most shallow way to celebrate your sexuality. It's ok as long as you see it as an addition to your normal sex-life. But not as an alternative. Then you will become lonely and masturbating is not longer satisfying.

    When you have sex, what counts is longer only your pleasure. You learn to make your girlfriend happy, as she does for you. It's a wonderful thing to have your girlfriend lying in your arms after giving her the f*** of her life. Shared pleasure is doubled pleasure :wink: Sex is no race who has the best orgasm, it's about an intimate experience together.

    At the beginning I said I know your thoughts in some kind. I wanted to have stronger orgasms, because I always knew there were deeper and more fulfilling experiences than the normal "jerk off" :lol:
    I got aware of the fact I love to see female orgasms not only for the pleasure of the woman but also because it gave me the opportunity to let out my own desire of a deeper sexuality which I felt was always inside me. I only didn't know how...

    The experiences you make with the aneros and/or the excercises provided here can help you to get a richer sexuality.
    B. Mayfield once said that men are in fact altered women. In the motherly womb, every embryo is female till the 7th week or so.
    So I think the orgasms women experience are more natural. The good news is that every man has some female part in himself.

    When woman orgasm, the normaly need a more holistic stimulation than men. Their whole brain is involved, as it is more cross-linked than ours. It is by nature a deeper experience because a woman needs more requirements to have sex.

    Why?

    Because after sex, a man can go away and live his life as before. A woman can get pregnant which means a significant change in her life. So her body rewards her more because she makes a bigger investment with her body and her soul. She has to let go far more. The existence of more dopamine is in my opinion due to the fact that more synapses in the female brain are affected with the orgams than in men. With men, there is only a part of the brain involved in the orgasm. So of course more dopamine can't be handled under this circumstance :wink:

    The rewiring which the Aneros accelerates is in my opinion a step towards the more natural (or female if you want) kind of orgasm. As I wrote, there are many similiarities in the male and female body. Just take the Prostate and the G-Spot.
    In some way, you have to experience an orgasm like a woman does. Women are much more into their feelings than men. Or better, men have also deep feelings, but they are often hidden behind a thick layer of logic. While this is helpful in much situations, when it comes to sex the woman has an advantage. But you can learn this too. You have to let go and experience a more passive, dedicated kind of sexuality. I'm only a beginner, but I start to grasp the depth of my ability of great orgasms. It's not a matter of the aneros, but a matter of your mind.

    Who knows which orgasm is more intense, the male or the female? From what I've read here, in every man drowses a sexuality much deeper than maintained in the media. Do a step behind the threshold. Develop your own sexuality which implies not to always look at other. Enjoy!!
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    I think you know what I'm feeling Beachboy7. It's an odd feeling, you feel sort of... undermined. But I know that when I'm like that I'm ignoring all the normal women out there who are probably feeling even worse because the media protrays female orgasms are more intense than the average woman can actually achieve. And indeed some women cannot cum at all. 1/2 can't during vaginal sex apparently. I would hate not to be able to cum during intercourse :(

    But, what you say sounds plausible. The differences between the nuerological structure of the male and female brain, indeed most of the body, are tiny. Women may have a more direct, or at least more well studied way of tapping into those higher orgasmic levels, but if these super O stories are to be believed, I suppose for some men there is a possibility they can achieve that too.

    All I can do is try I guess.

    But yea it's definitely important to keep things in perspective.



    I have always been fascinated with orgasm, and it's the thing that really turns me on most. The concept of losing control to pleasure, it just drives me wild. I want to experience it as much as I can, as well as give it.
  • Yeah, and do not make yourself so dependant on expectations. What do you feel when you see a sunrise? What do you experience when you are together with your friends? Do you have hobbies which fulfill you?

    Orgasms are cool, but do you think every man or woman who is able to have Super-Os do think of them all the day? It's not good to define your life only through sexuality, that is not the way it's meant to be. Let Sex only enrich your life.

    I can foresay that you won't be happy for long even if you would experience a Super-O now. A super-O or in general a fullfilled sexuality is not to make you happy. It's a reward for someone who already has a satisfying life. So stop searching happiness where it's not, start finding it in yourself :D
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    No offense but I don't really buy into the cosmic karmary business behind super Os ;) I'm sure they are rare and take a lot of time and effort and there are no guarantees, but in the end it's just anatomy, even if states of mind are very important.

    But I totally get your point.

    I mean love. I've never been in love, but if you know what I mean, I have "felt" what it can be, and I have no doubt that the feeling of lying next to the person you love with them sleeping in your arms, is infiniiiiiiiitely more powerful than any orgasm.

    It's just, you know, I'm 18 ;) There are all these pressures to be sexual and to do this and feel that. It's elevated to being the most important thing in life at my age, even though I know that really, is completely isn't.
  • geewiz
    Posts: 8
    "I don't, I don't believe it" - Luke

    "That is why you fail" - Yoda

    Anonicos "you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our point of view." - Obi-wan Kenobi

    "The Dark Side it is, raging teenage hormones, to Master Mayfield you listen." - Geewiz
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    Here's something I haven't mentioned that might give you guys a better idea of what I'm getting at, although you seem very perceptive already.

    Even if I never achieve a super O in my entire life, knowing that there is the possibility is enough for me. It's inequality that really crushes me, in this case between the sexes. It is enough to know that it's not because I am a man that I may not be able to experience that level of orgasmic pleasure to give me peace.

    I think that pretty much sums it all up. That's what I am/was struggling with.

    I don't want to seem like a pest so I'll give it a rest now, thanks for your advice guys. Genuinely this last week or two has been quite an emotional and mental upheaval for me and everyone that has posted here has contributed in some part to my adapting to it.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    I recently got in touch with some doctor friends of mine, and brought this issue of male vs. female orgasms in intensity.

    Jesus! She practically slated me for what she said was "gullibly buying into media nonsense". She was actually pretty angry - her angle was that this is a myth that comes about through the medias obsession with the female orgasm, and that it puts stress on the majority of girls who achieve regular orgasms that are about on par with the average male orgasm in strength (albeit most female orgasms are longer in length).

    I told her that it's surely stressful for any guys that fall for it too, and she seemed to agree.

    1/10 girls will never cum in their life, just under 1/2 don't have them during intercourse, and the majority of those who do are usually not multiorgasmic and don't have the mind blowing megagasms you see in porn.

    I feel like a bit of an idiot for falling for it. I had no perspective on this, and it's so easy to assume that there's a gross inequality here if you're only exposure is pornography, glossy mags and erotic literature.


    Her final word was that "the female sexual response is more varied than that of mens - most women fall in the middle, where pleasure is roughly equal to that of men and the main difference is between individuals. A small portion of women may experience extremely powerful orgasms, but roughly the same percentage cannot experience them at all. For women orgasm is a gamble, you may come out on top, or you may lose altogether."


    So I'm sort of reassured. Although I reckon I couldn't handle it if my partner could have those rare super mind blowing multi orgasms and I couldn't.

    That is unless the Aneros can give me the same ;)
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    Anonicos,

    Glad to hear that you are “sort of reassured” about the female orgasm issue. Your doctor friend pointed out the media myth to you better than I, when back in June I stated - Remember pornography is not reality, it's choreographed fantasy.

    You still need to face the reality that there are men and women who will have more intense and more frequent orgasms than yourself in their lifetimes, but so what ? Allowing yourself the opportunity to grow to YOUR full potential is the goal here. If you chase after the imaginary experiences of others, you will surely be on a fool’s quest. It would also be foolish to believe that external events, drugs or devices, such as the Aneros, will solve your conundrums.

    It is more than enough that you maximize your own abilities with the body you have, not the imaginary body of myths or fantasy.
  • Anonicos
    Posts: 57
    It was this concept of women having it so much better than men that was getting me. Maybe it's built on some innate battle of the sexes psychology crap, who knows, but it was driving me mental.

    The media myth is so widespread it's really hard to divorce yourself from it. But also, there seems to genuinely have been a lot more research into alternate female orgasms than male ones - when surveys and studies do compare orgasms, it may be a female g spot orgasm, with a regular male penile one, rather than a prostate one etc.

    I've not experienced a prostate orgasm but I gather that they are significantly more intense, so that seems unfair.

    Also men don't tend to buy sex toys as much as women. ANywhere near as much apparently. So without that market, less research is done on creating those kinds of insane products like the sybian, for men.

    But then how many women will use a sybian in their lifetime? Very few, and not all find it comfortable.


    I'm fine with the idea that others may have stronger orgasms than me, but that inequality was my problem. It was based on ignorance, yes, but and ignorance fueled by the media, which needs to get real, because this sort of thing causes a lot of stress to both men and women.
  • Geist
    Posts: 41
    Anonicos said:

    It was based on ignorance, yes, but and ignorance fueled by the media, which needs to get real, because this sort of thing causes a lot of stress to both men and women.


    Only if you put so much stock in it to begin with. :wink:
  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    Anonicos said:



    But now I've got this in my head I'm not kidding, I've gotten myself in a right state. I'm serious, a few days ago I think I might have been at my lowest ever in my life over this issue of male orgasms being weaker than women's. It crushes me.

    Terrible thing to think I know :(



    OH MY GOSH.

    I never thought I would find someone that felt how I did.

    I feel overwhelmed by your post as it is what I have felt for so long. It has TOTALLY depressed me and distorted my view of sex.

    Women = lie down and have the man kill himself to give her orgasms and feel GOOD that he can, or feel bad that he can't. The woman's idea of sex is to "let go". They moan more than men, so I can only assume they are having orgasmic sensations throughout sex. They have no pressure to perform. They can close their eyes and relax, limpen their hands, they have the psychological sensuality of opening their legs and letting the pleasure come to them, they can be surprised by the thrusting as they don't know what the man will do next, making it an exciting rollercoaster. They can go in different positions. They can be submissive or "on top"/dominant. Women's role seems to be to ACCEPT PLEASURE.

    Imagine being chatted up/approached by a stranger who's aim is to have you lying down while they give you orgasms?

    Man = Do the thrusting work, have less pleasure and sensitive sexual organs, less of a spiritual journey with it all. The man has the downside of being judged according to his penis size, shape, sex style, sex performance, sex length. He can't go in different positions. The man's sex is to "contain himself until the woman is satisfied", then he gets a weak (in comparison) organ (penis) orgasm to END the sex. No man moans as much as a woman during sex, which suggests that the man's aim is a fairly "pleasurable orgasm" at the end, compared to waves of orgasms without moving a muscle. Missionary position has to be the most mindboggling position for me. I'm balancing on my knees and foreams or hands, concentrating on how Im performing, analysing and comparing pleasure, readjusting my positioning, and not making a sound.

    A man's role seems to be to PROVIDE pleasure.

    This has depressed me TOTALLY to the point where I wish I could experience sex as a woman. Even with the woman on top, the man has to keep his erection, maybe hold the girl's hips. He can't let go and empty his mind. He can't be distant and reflect on what he saw on TV while pleasure comes to him.

    The woman is encouraged to pleasure her clit during sex. If the man has an Aneros inserted, that would cut down his chances of having a gf. And is the prostate really a comparison? Is sex good with the Aneros? Again, the man is still the performer.

    Clit, G spot, Vagina, Nipples, emotions/brain. "Can you please your woman?", "Grow your dick and please her", "Size matters?". And they say the penis head is basically a clitoris knock-off but less sensitive. What a rip off. How can God be male?

    And to make matters worse, I have a unsensitive penis. I discovered this as I masturbated, but hoped it would cure when I finally went on to have sex. I dont get pleasure from masturbation until Im near ejac-orgasm. I watch porn but sometimes I feel like: this is nothing compared to her pleasure. Girls don't even need to orgasm before they moan. As soon as the penis makes contact, they moan. My unsensivite penis has me quite suicidal and very depressed. Oh, I have a girlfriend. I wish I could feel what she feels. I love her but when we're done and she says: "I had two orgasms", rather than crumpling a cola can into my forehead and saying "hell yea, Im the man", I get filled with a panic-attack sharp chest pain and depression. I barely can feel my penis. I seriously feel suicidal about this a lot of the time.

    When women say stuff like: "men!", or "men are useless", I think: "Excuse me?!". Without men, women wouldn't know the heights of pleasure they do. They say women know how to please women, but compare lesbian porn moaning to man-woman porn moaning. I think it's an audacity. Men are to be pitied if anything. If it weren't for this prostate gland (whose pleasure I have yet to experience), men's sexuality would really be a devastating shame.

    Even down to MUSIC and MEDIA. Male singers sing about:
    - how they can/want to please a girl.
    - how they can please a girl better than her current man.
    - how they can be what she wants.

    Female singers sing about:
    - They are independent and don't need a man/their current man; they can do better.
    - How any potential lover (man) must meet their requirements and please them.

    This has made me question Higher Design/God/Creation/Evolution. How did men get lumped with the "load"? Even with the Aneros and an accepting gf/wife, it's still not "inbuilt" pleasure capacity. It's toy-assisted. I don't get how men are so sex hungry, and women pretend to/make men beg when it is the woman who benefits most.

    Lately, when I look at women, I'm awash with jealousy. They look great, they have perfect bodies, are sensual, mysterious, emotional, intriguing, have unprecented sexual pleasure capacity. How can they be considered the weaker sex or backbone to men, etc? If anything, men are CRAP. Made inferior. Born with this desire to PROVIDE PLEASURE. Women are born with this EXPECTATION of ACCEPTING PLEASURE. Unfair to me.

    I have ranted on too long. I had no idea anyone felt like me.
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    Anonicos, I've only read your first post (not the whole thread) but let me say I used to be like you - envious of all the many varied, intense female orgasmic abilities. However and I base this on personal sexual experience with females, and watching porn I'd say I am more orgasmic now and have more orgasmic pleasure than probably 90% of females out there! That's just an estimate and it would take scientific inquiry to accurately assess this, but I believe it to be true from my experience.

    I never dreamed this would be possible. I remember years ago seeing ads on the internet for techniques that mentioned mind blowing orgasms for hours, etc. I thought it was all just hype and for them to make money. Then I found the Aneros, and began taking fish oil along with some other herbs / and found the Aneros. The rewiring process / and inquiring process of MMO's that I personally undertook led to me learning many ways to orgasm and to orgasm deeply, and for long periods of time - even continuously. It is amazing, and delicious, and I am definitely blessed to have this ability. I can have orgasms from the Aneros, or from the Peridise, or from contact with the perinium, or contact with my kundalini spot, or contact with what I refer to as the male clitoris, and with enough time and concentration I can have orgasms from no contact at all. Oh, I left out nipple stimulation. I can have orgasms from that too and as a matter of fact that seems to accentuate all the other techniques. Probably there are other ways as well but I am still learning.

    Anyway, take hope, and be patient. Invest some long term time and effort into developing these skills for yourself. It will be worth it.
  • rumel said:

    Anonicos,

    Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.



    You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.



    Even a slight edge is not fair.

    Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.
  • [quote=Old Wolf]Anonicos,

    You've had all the advice regarding whether or not to get an Aneros so I'm not going to go there. You're a big boy, you've got enough to make an informed decision.

    I have been married 3 times and have had other female sexual partners besides. As onthepath points out, no-one can know what someone else, man or woman, experiences during orgasm.

    Having said that, it is my opinion, FWIW, that my latest Aneros Super-orgasms are at least as intense as, and often exceed in duration, anything I've witnessed in a woman. But then maybe my love-making technique isn't up to par... ;-)
    I have never witnessed a woman masturbate to orgasm to know what they can achieve solo, however. (Though I'd like to...)

    I have just got out of bed from a 3 hr session with my Helix and Progasm. I am fairly fast at reaching an orgasmic state, so it is safe to say that I was sine-waving through orgasms for 2hrs 50 minutes. I didn't finish with an ejaculation as I wanted to maintain the sexual tension. I am sitting here at the laptop with little trembles and flutters still happening. If I stop and concentrate I can bring on a small orgasm, and that's without an Aneros.

    Self or partner induced 'Wet' orgasms whilst in the midst of an Aneros induced Super O are out of this world and will leave you shaking and trembling so much that you will not care whether women have it better, I promise you.

    I would love to experience, first hand, a woman's orgasm. It is just an idle wish, though, because I know I never will. I don't get hung up on it.
    There are many ways a man can get hung up on matters sexual; size, duration, circumcized/intact, stamina, pleasure/orgasm giving ability etc., etc.; all fuelled by 'the media' and locker room mentality, much in the same way as women can be made to feel inadequate over their body image.

    So, three things:

    1. Try and stop obsessing over this. You won't ever know if your orgasms, now or in the future, equal or exceed those of a woman. Live with it. Therapy? An Aneros is a darn sight cheaper and, eventually, may answer your questions more adequately than a therapist ever could. And at the very least you will have fun.

    2. Aneros super Os and super Ts are good enough that you'll stop caring, but widely varying timescales to achieve this.

    3. Go for quality not quantity in your current masturbatory sessions. Practice edging, different lubes, pre-cum or cum in condom for a different sensation. etc., and make it last. The orgasm that comes (pun) after 2hrs intense edging is a completely different animal to that which follows 'a quick one off the wrist' no matter how many times one can 'do' it in a night

    I know I said three but here's a fourth...

    There should be enough in the stickies, particularly 'My Best...' & 'My First...' to convince you that a Super O, or a succession of them, is enough to keep anyone happy irrespective of what women experience.

    Have fun!

    Old Wolf


    If your orgasm is longer how is a woman's deeper?
  • rumel said:

    Anonicos,

    Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.



    You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.



    Even a slight edge is not fair.

    Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.


    Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.
  • rumel said:

    Anonicos,

    Being "agonizingly jealous" of female sexuality is certainly not going to help your confidence any. The female orgasm is something I know I will never experience, no matter how curious I may wish to know it, but women can never experience a male orgasm etiher, so that point is equal. This is just one of the facts of life, there is no point in worrying about how they may or may not compare, its a hypothetical discussion with no resolution posssible. Yes, women have nipples, so do men (and you can learn to become more sensitive in response to stimulation there), so that point is equal. Women have a vagina and men have a penis, I think there is an equivalency there too (you've probably heard the term "Penis envy"). Women have an anus, so do men, so that point is equal. Women have their G-Spot, we males have our P-spot (prostate), so that point is equivalent. About the only anatomical part that men don't have an equal counterpart is the clitoris possesed by women. Here I will concede female sexuality has an edge.



    You need to understand that the Aneros device by itself will not convince you of your innate ability to reach high levels of pleasure, it is truly a very mental exercise to exploit your full potential for receiveing and giving pleasure. The Aneros is just a tool toward achieving that state of mind/body harmony/pleasure. Rejoice in your maleness and be thankfull for the things you don't have to endure as a woman does - like : PMS, menstruation, floppy tits when you try to run, having to squat to pee, etc, No thanks, I wouldn't trade any of my maleness away for whatever slight edge women might have in sexual pleasure capabilities, especially now that I know I have so much more capacity for pleasure myself. Don't sell your masculinity short it has so many qualities that many women wish for themselves.



    Even a slight edge is not fair.

    Women have a clitoris but they don't have the male foreskin which has more neveres than all the female body parts combined , the million dollar spot or testicles.


    Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.



    And they have testicles too right?

    Male foreskins have 24000 nerves. The female clit only has 4000.

    If you are right though then it wouldn't be fair. NOT FAIR AT ALL.

    Can't men have multiple gential orgasms too (penile, prostate, dry, and even million dollar spot) and full body orgasms?
  • Jupiter
    Posts: 14
    Anonicos said:

    I know you guys are probably reluctant to give me a straight comparison because you probably think I'm coming at the whole thing from the wrong angle, but I agree, I know that the intimate relationship direction is far more important and even powerful than "comparing orgasms". And I'll go that route.

    But I think I will buy an Aneros.

    And I'm really looking to see if I can find a couple of successful stories of guys that feel they have experienced super-Os that seemed to be as strong as or stronger than the most pwerful female orgasm they have witnessed.

    I know these things vary between individuals, but to put my mind at rest I really need to know that there is the possibility that the playing field really is level, regardless of what it takes to get there. I just can't stand anything that pre-determines my life based on genes - pleasure, social status, attractiveness... anything.


    I don't care how long it takes to get there, I'll put the time in. If I understand this correctly, at least male sexuality is reliable - if you put the time in, we will achieve these things. I suppose even if some women can achieve that pleasure much easier (if they can), some never cum at all, and some never that hard.


    I just have to know that playing field is level, I really do :( Sorry if I sound like a headcase.

    NOTE: For the record I've been masturbating all night, getting myself wild over true erotic stories on the net. But the orgasm is an anti-climax all the time, I just end up feeling let down. I suppose it's as much a state of mind as physical pleasure - but I want both of those aspects, not just mental.




    You're not a headcase. I'm in the same place. Or maybe I'm a headcase too.
  • DeepDeep
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    Actually women have a clitoral hood which is the female equivalent of foreskin. They have everything equivalent of ours plus more. They are capable of multiple genital (vaginal, g-spot, and clitoral) and full body orgasms.



    See rumel's point about media hype.

    Also I think there should be a rule about necroing threads. How about the mancer has to declare that they a raising a thread that hasn't been posted in for 3 months or more.
  • Maybe Deep. But I still think women get a better deal. For example men have to hold back and as someone phrased it sex is an endurance test. We don't ever get to lie there and be ridden to orgasms over and over and over.
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  • Jupiter
    Posts: 14
    Tripper said:

    Anonicos,

    Hey, 86% of women don't realize they have a g-spot and also have the ability to have multiple orgasms.

    94% of men don't know they have a prostate with sexual potential. 99.6% of men have never had a multiple orgasm, dry orgasm, or Super "O" unless they climbed a pole at age 9 (search on "pole")

    Begin that relationship with your girlfriend that you mention and discover with each other the sexual potential you each have.....

    If you are very lucky, your girlfriend will lovingly insert the Aneros for you at some point in your relationship.

    This forum is very supportive so we want to help and would love to hear your feedback as you progress. How about starting an Anonicos blog on the forum?

    Tripper



    Speaking of climbing the pole/rope. I have done that. It was great. Better than any orgasm from masturbation, which isn't saying much, but it was a lot better. I was actually climbing a rope in gym class and had a full body orgasm when I was at the top. Fortunately nothing came out, and I didn't let go.
  • What about myturn's statement saying women can relax and have no pressure to perform?

    Why can't we give they have equal pressure? Why can't we have equal relaxation. I want to be brought to multiple fbo's during sex not give them to myself.
  • plantation
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    my opinion in veiled subjects of the orgasm of the woman I find that myturn am right but happily now it i has aneros thank you aneros 8)
  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    As I said in the other thread, I agree. There must be nothing more satisfying than being ridden to a multiple G spot orgasm while laying on your back.

    I am just putting all my faith in the prostate and Aneros.
  • ksmo users seem more happy but i agree.