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No ejaculation, no erection?
  • McRad
    Posts: 3
    Fellow travelers, I've got a couple questions for you.

    I am about a month into Aneros. Using SGX and Maximus, and initially got into PM for BPH. I am in the medical field, and found the use of Aneros to definitely improve urine steam. On the pleasure side, everything is terrific, but never a drop of fluid, not even pre-cum.

    Often I feel close to a hands free release, but tire from sessions first. While I've had many mini's and even a few super O's, never a super T. I know the mission is dry super O's, but I'd sure like to squirt at least once, hands off.

    Additionally, unlike other posts describe here, I've never had an erection during a session.

    Any thoughts on either subject? :?:
  • gm501
    Posts: 87
    Not getting an erection is normal. I rarely do, and I don't pre-cum at all either. Using the Aneros is completely different from normal jacking and subsequent ejac's -- one has little to do with the other. Sounds like you're progressing down a normal path.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    McRad,

    Gm501 is right on here. Some users have large amounts or precum other do not. Some have erections while others don't. I've had Super O's with and without erection, although my most intense ones generally occur with it.

    On the matter of a HFO, I know that for some users this amounts to a Holy Grail of sensual experiences. I can tell you that the majority have not achieved it. See the following poll for the numbers: http://www.aneros.com/forum/have-you-achieved-a-hands-free-ejaculation-using-the-aneros-t2162.html

    From what I've gathered from my years of involvement in this forum, it seems that some individuals are wired for this while others are not. There are some methods for cheating this a bit which involve scrotal stretching and other techniques that provide indirect penile stimulation. But the true goal here is ejaculation without penile stimulation. For all of my years of sensual exploration, I've only had one of these orgasms myself. Frankly, it's really a back burner kind of thing for me at this point. I drag it out every so often and play with it a bit, but I don't dwell on it.

    If there is one thing that I can say about the HFO is that it seems to require an extremely high degree of arousal, physical yes, but more particularly mental, to bring this about....at least it has for me. The one time that this occurred for me it was almost by accident. After an entire week of abstinence I began a session with series of Super O's generated from nipple stimulation and mental focus. I will say that I had an almost overwhelming feeling of sexual arousal at this time (I was extraordinarily horny). Suddenly I was taken by this compulsion to have something inside of me. I focused on this further and had several more Super O's. When I could take it no longer, I ran to my bedroom to look for the first thing that I could find. Oddly, the first thing that I found was not an Aneros, but an old dil that I hadn't used for years. While I raced to find lube I was shaking with anticipation. Finally, with the dil lubed up I slowly introduced it into my anus. From the second I felt it inside of me I knew that I was going to ejaculate! I thrust it quickly two times and voila, I ejaculated! It was wonderful! I continued thrusting and the ejaculation went for a full 45 seconds (I did not produce ejaculate the entire time but the anal and penile contraction were there). So for me it was about a high level of arousal coupled with mental focus and a secondary source of (non-penile) stimulation. Mental focus seems to be the cohesive factor though.

    Remember, a nocturnal emission or wet dream is generally created out of total immersion in erotic imagery. The phenomenon of the wet dream might point to another factor in this as well....testosterone levels. Guys in their late teens are generally peaking with their testosterone levels. Is it a coincidence that this is also when most nocturnal emissions occur? It would be interesting to find out what the levels were on some of these guys who seem to be able to have a HFO at will. I still believe that they're set up on a different neurological level than the most us however. I haven't seen any compelling evidence to suggest that this is learned.

    Still it's an awful lot of fun trying!

    BF Mayfield
  • newbie2009newbie2009
    Posts: 267
    I've done Trad-wet HFOs twice. Both times in the 'out-of-control,' poor-judgment, frenzy that Brian relates.

    Both followed very aggressive, crude ano-play sessions with no intent of a Dry-O. Aneros had been removed for several minutes, both times. Arousal was hung-up near or beyond any reasonable max.

    Went to aggressive/abusive nip-stim and had non-pulsing heavy stream of cum while flaccid. Not very satisfying but absolutely erased the tension and returned me to a human state. Oh, yeah. sitting upright both times. No drugs involved.

    Take care!
  • pif
    Posts: 30
    MacRad-
    I have the two same models. Have only been using the SGX since last week and picked up the Max yesterday which I havent had time to use yet. I have had a few minor dry O's, the butt buzz and two flacid wet O's what where great. I agree with the comment about eery one being different as I was younger i would pour precum by just looking at my cock. As I have gotten older that has all changed... LOL!
  • newbie2009newbie2009
    Posts: 267
    Hey MacRad--

    Pif brings up an excellent point on the mental angle of pre-cum. And 'BF' and gm501 note the variability with different guys.

    So, what have been your past pre-cum triggers ?

    I'd thought triggers were mostly physical but this thread leans my thought to... mostly mental.

    I usually get a good flow (at least a cc) from 1/2 tab of Viagra (but not from Levitra or Cialis). (Mentally, 'V' equals penetration in the NEAR future ?)

    The SGX is our favorite foreplay tool and it now produces more pre-cum than the Helix or Eupho and pre-cum from the SGX starts sooner than from the Helix or Eupho. The concentration of musk-stink seems worse from the SGX.

    As BF Mayfield and gm501 mentioned, a large number of guys don't erect during an Aneros session where penetration isn't anticipated. That's been my situation. At most, a mild chubby.

    Just musing ..... Perhaps using one tool for sex and a distinctly different tool for the journey might be a good practice. Poll idea -- do you use one tool to support sex and a different one for solo sessions ?
  • McRad
    Posts: 3
    Thanks for your replies, and for the especially detailed one by BF. With only 7,000 registered users, we are in a small universe. It's great to have a forum to share experiences and ask questions, as our journey is one you cannot easily discuss with those not connected to it. I hope to pay it forward.

    Thanks again,

    McRad