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Progress (Very little) but progress none the less.
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    Ok firstly to all the skeptics out there, I was just as sceptical!!!! In the back of my mind I thought the guys writing these things were paid by Aneros. (no offence) I never voiced my scepticism but I admit I thought it. So if any of you guys out there doubt what these guys are saying PM me and I will prove to you that I am legit. Even though I was sceptical I carried on reading every post by anyone. For example Oboy and Carolinaguy to mention just a few. Not to mention the big names like B Mayfield, Love_is and Rumel. Thank you!!!!! Thank you!!! THANK YOU!!! for all your input and time it takes to reply to sceptics like me. But I wanted to believe and persevered. My story to follow.

    So there I was reading a thread on the Leterotica forum (please let me know if I can post a link) it really turned me on. I got home and waited for the Mrs. to have a shower. While she was in there I quickly lubed up and inserted the smallest (first time, in the past I was using the larger one) one of the Peridise beginners set. I must mention that I didn't feel much with the bigger one.
    I got into bed and waited for the wifey to fall asleep. I started the deep belly breathing and maintained a little anal contraction. Like B Mayfield mentioned, always returning to the "Base" contraction not relaxing totally at all. I closed my eyes and pictured a couple of erotic things. As Mentioned by other members as soon as you start to get aroused your breathing rate increases and you tend to forget to breathe deeply. (Much easier said than done, believe me. :D )
    I started to feel my but wanting to relax almost like it was getting fatigued by the constant contraction. I had some very nice feeling develop, my penis also twitched a little. I concentrated on the movement in me and it felt wonderful......... But I kept on loosing concentration and I was back to the beginning. So I made a vital mistake (I think). Instead of sticking with the Peridise I lubed up again and inserted the MGX, I felt nothing.

    So yes I think I am on the road to great things. And wanted to thank all of you for your patience. I guess practise makes perfect.

    I will keep you posted on any progress.

    Peace

    D
  • esfenoides
    Posts: 58
    No retreat no surreneder

    I took giant steps at the begining and Ive gone back a few steps since then. Im having aneros sessions with a lot fo p-waves and little orgasms, and having little hints of something bigger. Enjoyable non-the-less. I intend to master this area and unlock it. There is no question in my mind that its going to happen. I listen to then Hypnaerosession, specially to the relaxing/breathing part, followed by disc two. And try to go into deeper and deeper states of relaxation, its a skill, its a muscle.

    I was feeling up a girl the other day with my peredise inserted (1st date or whatever), mmmmm.

    I like the idea proposed by someone of the forum that the aneros session could take place while you feel up massage/masturbate/kiss your partner, instead of all the visualisation.

    Anyway dont have any hurries getting there, its a journey and if you dont enjoy the path the destination aint worth it. In the begining I felt things rising in my body and expected them to expand and explode, now Im more about letting them be and letting them take over at there own accord. A lot of the sensations Im getting through sessions I have the feeling that are a lot of rewiring and uncloding taking place. There surely is an emotional process working with the unlocking process and loving and accepting yourself is what you are being gifted for.
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    Thank you esfenoides, for your words for encouragement. I failed to mention that I have been following your progress as well. I am so glad I started the journey..and don't really care how long it takes.

    Peace

    D
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Right on Dielsel2215!!! Keep at it man! :D
    It's really interesting how the journey changes as soon as you start to experience pleasurable results.

    Thank you for having mentioned me as one of the big names here. It makes me chuckle though, because I've yet to achieve super-O's. I've just been a very prolific poster here in the forum.

    Quite honestly, I too experience those paranoid thoughts now and then, of maybe this is all bull shit! But I figured I would wait till I finally super orgasmed before putting those to rest in a testimonial here in the forums. Ah well... I suppose a lot of us wonder those things at one point or another. It makes me wonder if even that smallest amount of disbelief can hinder progress.

    I also agree with esfenoides, that relaxing, and breathing is a learned skill. I've been learning this lesson with breathing in a lot of aspects of my life besides the Aneros sessions. During my bicycle ride the other day, I realized that I was slowing down and unable to push harder. This has been a constant problem for a number of years now in my exercise routine. But it is because my breathing is not keeping up with my bodies demand for oxygen. Meaning I was unconsciously either holding my breath, or taking very shallow breathes. It seems silly and obvious. But I never realized that I needed to put more attention into my breathing to keep my performance up.

    Love_is
  • newbie2009newbie2009
    Posts: 267
    Tks for this excellent series posts. I'd also wondered about the 'possibility' that this was a jug of 'snake oil' as, sometimes people look a bit "scripted." (I think this results from some guys having a compulsive approach to following the instructions and he Wiki notes.)

    On session two I got into some spontaneous twitches which were 'interesting' but weren't much of a proof for me.

    Then, on session four I moved beyond simple contractions and 'base level' to what I'm calling 'positional awareness' along with an ability to move the beast about, a lot ! A good fast rhythm of stroking my prostate took me into craving and my breathing went into panting. Suddenly I listened and I was sounding just like my wife when she is struggling to 'crest the hill.' I'd stroke my prostate just like I'd her g-spot and found that I was responding to myself with her panting. In it's most simple form, this is probably just "prostate masturbation." Anyone have a better name for it?

    I only made it half-way up the mountain and got stalled just like my wife sometimes stalls (OMG, the similarities between two humans of the opposite sex is AMAZING!!)

    Relaxed for several minutes then tried to scale the mountain again. Made it half way and stalled. Had to canc the session as I was exhausted in a pool of sweat and was sore. Action was too heavy for the lube situation (I didn't relube after a couple of Aneros swaps) I was a bit bloodied the next morning.

    (No guys, I wasn't having a period!) :shock:

    So, same activity, same result. Longitudinal correlation of one-point-zero. Will definitely increase the sample size. God, I crave that orgasm but need another day to heal.

    Yes, I realize that I need to open the non-compulsive/meditative path before I form a callous on the anterior wall of my rectum.

    THIS AIN'T SNAKE OIL!!!!

    NuBe09
  • helixbill
    Posts: 148
    "Relaxed for several minutes then tried to scale the mountain again"

    Tried is the operative word. Quit trying and start letting your prostate tell you where it is going instead of trying to tell it where to go. Just relax and breathe deeply.

    Not every session is the same and sometimes it just isn't working so I quit. If I am too tired or have too much on my mind the session is more likely to be a flop.
  • newbie2009newbie2009
    Posts: 267
    tks helixbill. Sage advice. I think I've always viewed ejac and orgasm-ejaculation as an achievement.

    Tough for an old Type-A to cease competing for the brass ring and accept a free-lunch.

    Mama's got a heavy day of shopping tomorrow so will lube up and have a day of kick-back relaxation. I've got to go celibate for 10 days -- up coming PSA blood draw. But will squeeze in one more session before the drought.

    Will think of it as the rewards of retired life. Fantasy: Image montage from the era of the Mustang Ranch ... I can do this!

    Time to hit the sack. Dad once told me that every decent rounder needs his sleep.

    NuBe09
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    Thank you all for replying I really appreciate it. As Helixbill said Newbie2009 just sit back and enjoy the ride (that's the advise that I am taking). Like me I think you try to over analyze things too much, instead of letting the Aneros take charge. Oh well.....still a long journey for me. On another note, my wife and I made love last night, she mentioned this morning how she was surprised how I managed to maintain a hard erection. She said I mustn't stop what I am doing, the Anaros sessions are obviously working lol.

    @Love_is weather or not you have reached the super "O"'s or not is not the point, your contribution to this forum have helped many newbs like me. I feel you keep it real, and that honest approach means a lot to me.

    Peace


    D
  • Letting go and giving the aneros time to take charge is what will get you to the next stage.

    Relax, breathe and forget about the aneros. Dont expect anything at all that way if you do feel any pleasure it will be a welcomed unexpected bonus. It is not easy to do and I have recently only gotten to a stage where i am truly able to give in and the rewards are great.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Thank you Diesel2215. That's very kind of you. And I appreciate you having said that. :)
    I'm glad you and others have found my posts to be helpful.

    Love_is
  • Carolinaguy
    Posts: 67
    Sounds like you are advancing Diesel. I'm sure you'll get there soon. I had a lot of the same thoughts as you when things weren't happening for me.
    The biggest advance I had was to disassociate the Aneros experience from traditional sex.
    Not to overdrive the natural progression with contractions and clenches of my own doing.
    Yeah at the point where things really get going you can do that but in the early stages, you have to tease your body. Let it come to you. Let it establish itself within you and be the passenger not the driver.
    I realize so many of my mistakes now. I would be clenching my sphincter in a regular rhythm, buck my hips a bit and basically mimic the rhythm as if I was with a woman to a degree.
    I am finding so many nuanced sensations and feelings now that I have become wired that I may have missed in my earlier caveman attempts.
    I have read so many varying posts on how we get there that I am convinced we all have to find our own way. I tried porn and other stimuli but in the end for me, a quiet dark room worked best.
    The biggest hurdle is your mind. It is the biggest ally and the most formidable foe.
    Don't concentrate on why it isn't happening but open yourself up to feel every little nudge, every little wave of warmth and vocalize an encouraging yes. Talk out loud to yourself.
    When things look like they might be starting, try deeper breaths instead of pulling the Aneros in by muscle contraction. Almost resist it.
    Most importantly, do not go into a session with pressure on yourself. Don't over-concentrate or over think it.
    It was not long after the things you describe that I was able to take it all the way.
    Relax and know that it is possible and you are making strides. Good Luck!
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    Your Most welcome Love_is! :lol:
    @eternaltraveler thanks for your sound advice!!

    @Carolinaguy Thank you for your encourgement, much appreciated. One of the many things I learned from you was to tell myself "Fu*k that feels so freaking good"!! and my body responds beautifully. I agree about the porn thing as well, When I switched the TV and the lights off and I just used my imagination, things started to happen.
    Thank you so very much for you Contribution

    D
  • MartyB
    Posts: 80

    I was feeling up a girl the other day with my peredise inserted (1st date or whatever), mmmmm.

    I like the idea proposed by someone of the forum that the aneros session could take place while you feel up massage/masturbate/kiss your partner, instead of all the visualisation.



    I have had wonderful sessions, the most pleasurable so far, while spooning my girlfriend. I get to feel her body pressed against mine, I can touch her, caress her and think about making love to her in the position I'm currently in. All of this helps me focus my mine on what I'm feeling, either physically or emotionally; all right brain activity (which is where I think you need to be?.. Can an expert confirm this?) Anyway it works well for me. It's important to note, before you cuddle with your significant other during a session, ask her if it's ok for her to simply be there for you. You are discovering your body, instead of going it alone this time, there is a way for her to help by receiving your love as you cuddle. Make sure she knows you want her to be a part of your session. During a session I had while spooning my girlfriend, my attention turned from myself to pleasuring her as she was getting turned on. While there is nothing wrong with this, we made love and it was a great night, it didn't help me on my journey of self discovery. Since then she is more than happy to be there for me and knows the attention isn't foreplay (well I guess it really is, just 2-3 hours of it) and she feels good being a part of my progress towards bliss.
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    MartyB said:

    I was feeling up a girl the other day with my peredise inserted (1st date or whatever), mmmmm.

    I like the idea proposed by someone of the forum that the aneros session could take place while you feel up massage/masturbate/kiss your partner, instead of all the visualisation.



    I have had wonderful sessions, the most pleasurable so far, while spooning my girlfriend. I get to feel her body pressed against mine, I can touch her, caress her and think about making love to her in the position I'm currently in. All of this helps me focus my mine on what I'm feeling, either physically or emotionally; all right brain activity (which is where I think you need to be?.. Can an expert confirm this?) Anyway it works well for me. It's important to note, before you cuddle with your significant other during a session, ask her if it's ok for her to simply be there for you. You are discovering your body, instead of going it alone this time, there is a way for her to help by receiving your love as you cuddle. Make sure she knows you want her to be a part of your session. During a session I had while spooning my girlfriend, my attention turned from myself to pleasuring her as she was getting turned on. While there is nothing wrong with this, we made love and it was a great night, it didn't help me on my journey of self discovery. Since then she is more than happy to be there for me and knows the attention isn't foreplay (well I guess it really is, just 2-3 hours of it) and she feels good being a part of my progress towards bliss.


    Hi MartyB thanks for taking the time to post! Wow it sounds like you have one awesome girl there. Very useful and sound advice!!!

    Thanks

    D
  • That sounds amazing to get to the point of having an orgasm just while making out with your girl or something else of the like.

    It seems as though the aneros has the potential for a person to find pleasure in what would normally be pleasure-less (in the sexual sense).

    Hey, this is off topic, but I seem to be having some trouble kicking off... It feels like the MGX goes PAST my prostate, but I'm going to keep testing it and trying some of these techniques to see if it will work out for me. One of my other problems has to do with the P-tab. It doesn't seem to put any pressure on my perineum and therefore doesn't supply any pivoting motions.

    Does this mean I might need more lube? I used just enough to insert it. Is the lube what allows it to slide in and press up against the perineum and pivot against the prostate?

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    :)
  • Diesel2215
    Posts: 105
    Hi Divinorum1111

    You definitely need to inject lube, Lube is the only thing that allows the device to move freely. IMHO!!!

    Good luck

    D
  • Diesel2215,

    THIS MAY BE THE ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM!

    I'll post a new topic to keep everyone informed on my status.
  • newbie2009newbie2009
    Posts: 267
    Hi Divinorum1111,

    OK, here's the anal, atomistic, non-Gestalt guy with a thought and a suggestion.

    Experience: When we got into serious g-spot & p-spot work, I formed myself into a pretzel on the shower floor and went on a search mission for my prostate. During the searches I found a lot of stretchy areas inside there and missed the prostate several times. And, bph gives me a larger than usual target.

    Thought: My muscle tone might not be as good as yours; but, if you are shy on pre-rinse or lube, you might be hanging up on a fold of rectal tissue, stretching the wall, getting stuck away from your prostate. That outta cause a lot of discomfort but, maybe not. Remember that we're not actually touching the prostate, we're deflecting the rectal wall into the prostate and applying "sliding pressure to the rectal wall."

    Pre-lube? I vote, YES! If for no other reason than to avoid injury. I follow the Wiki's advice (i.e. make it "float" or be "suspended" in fluid).

    Suggestion: Start with too much and work downward till you notice the Aneros not moving freely. "Sloshy" seems better for me than does "Slippery." So, some dilution seems OK. YMMV.

    Note though that the experts caution to not get too 'tangled-up' in lube.

    NuBe09
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello, :)

    Note though that the experts caution to not get too 'tangled-up' in lube.


    Agreed. But if what you are using, and how you are applying it is not working well. Then, like newbie2009 said, you have to put some time into experimenting. For myself, finding a lube that performed well, was a huge step in my progress. As it made insertion much, much easier. And made the sessions much more comfortable, particularly the longer ones. Which inevitably allowed me to further relax my anal muscles. So what works for me is 100% unrefined shea butter. But there are a lot of different options out there that other Aneros users here like. You can probably do a forum search here for "lube", and come up with a whole mess of results.

    Love_is
  • Well I already bought ID Glide off of this site. I really like the stuff.

    Honestly, I'm very experienced with the feeling of things going into my ass. That isn't an innuendo to "I'm gay", because I'm not. I'm just very experienced in extracting pleasure from that area.

    I've used much bigger equipment than the Aneros. In fact, I know that I would have no problem whatsoever with the Progasm. The reason I got the MGX instead of something bigger was because I've never experienced prostate stimulation and didn't want to push myself into something so intense that I wasn't ready for.

    Just wondering, is the P-tab actually supposed to push onto the perineum with kind of a hooking motion? It seems that this is what should supply the pivoting motion. I understand that there is no "one way" to do anything, but i assume there is a generic mode of action put in place by the Aneros and that specifics are what make it unique for each person.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello Divinorum1111, :)

    Just wondering, is the P-tab actually supposed to push onto the perineum with kind of a hooking motion? It seems that this is what should supply the pivoting motion.


    I believe that is the case. Hence the the rounded head of the P-tab rolls as the whole device pivots.

    Love_is
  • helixbill
    Posts: 148

    Just wondering, is the P-tab actually supposed to push onto the perineum with kind of a hooking motion?



    That's the idea but I found that the handle was hitting the crack of my butt and inhibiting the movement of the Aneros. I have a Helix and a Eupho and cut the handle off both and they work much better for me that way.

    As for lube, I have used a little vaseline inside my anus for about 30 years (after my doctor told me to use it) with no harmful effects so far. I tried some on my Eupho last night and really liked it as a lube.

    My biggest complaint with lubes such as Astroglide and Optimus is they dry out too quickly particularly right at the anus where they are exposed to the air part of the time. And KY is a total waste of money for me.
  • Thanks Love_is and helixbill.

    That clears up some confusion for me. After trying it with more lube I found that it worked much better. I haven't thought cutting the handle would be necessary, but now that I know that the pressure of the P-tab puts the pivoting motion into action, I'll consider it.

    My only problem with doing so was the money back guarantee.
  • MartyB
    Posts: 80

    I haven't thought cutting the handle would be necessary, but now that I know that the pressure of the P-tab puts the pivoting motion into action, I'll consider it.

    What helped me make to decision to cut the handle or not was this. While lying on my side and feeling some pleasure with the aneros movement, I could tell the handle was impeeding movement overal as it would come into contact with my butt cheeks. I gently spread my checks just enough, with one hand, to make sure it could move freely. The extra movement (and pleasure) was enough for me cut the handle. I did this test for a couple of sessions before I cut it to make sure. Every session is different to I wanted to make sure it would be good for future sessions to come. The helix without a doubt needed to have it's handle removed. At first the MGX seemed to put too much pressure on my prostate after I cut off the handle, but doesn't seem to be a problem now. I just received the eupho in the mail today; I'll let you know if its handle survives the night.

    Enjoy the journey!
    Marty
  • HAHAHA.

    Thanks MartyB.

    I like that last statement.

    My handle sure didn't survive, and WOW, it works MUCH better.
  • MartyB
    Posts: 80
    The Eupho still has its handle. It didn't seem like the handle was in the way or holding me back. I may change my mind a few sessions down the road.

    It makes me wonder if the Eupho's handle is really different or if I am...

    Cheers,
    Marty
  • Inverse
    Posts: 36
    I'm thinking I might have to remove the handle on mine. Two sessions and I've been very, very dissapointed. It always feels like it's moving "past" the prostate. It doesn't really move much in there, usually when I get prostate stimulation (from another) what works best is a "come here" hook like motion, pushing toward the back. The Aneros doesn't even come close to that, and feels generally like I just have a very small plug instead of an advanced toy.

    Not to mention, any prolonged use of the item (20minutes or more) just makes me feel like I have to evacuate immediately. I can't focus on any rhythmic contractions, since my body just feels like I have to get rid of it.