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Compy's questions (New question 12/17, getting Helix today)
  • Howdy everybody! A possible semi-young future Helix owner here. Nineteen years old people can order this stuff without penalty, right? I mean, you only gotta be eighteen to get on here legally... So I figure...

    Just a quick question. This is the first time I've bought anything online, and I want to know if something is sent in the mail separate from the package you order. In the checkout/billing, the billing form asks for address and such, and that has me a bit worried.
    Do I receive a letter or receipt or anything from the folks of Aneros? I'd prefer very much not to get anything other than what I order, even if it is just a letter in the mail. I want my order to be kept secret from roomies. I'm going to pull a pretty risky(as far as being discovered, no danger of injury or loss or anything) stunt to get one of these.

    And hell, while I'm here I may as well ask another question. About what size box would I be expecting if I were to order the Helix and the six pack of Marksman lube? Dimensions in inches would be nice if you know it by some very odd chance.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello thecompy,

    And welcome to the Aneros forum! :)

    I'll try and answer your questions as best I can. Keep in mind that I am not a employee or representative of Aneros.com or High Island Health. So my answers and observations are just as a happy user of Aneros prostrate massager's.

    My understanding is that once you are eighteen you are considered legally to be an adult and can do anything any other adult can with the exception of purchase alcohol, which you need to be twenty-one for, as you probably already know. I read through the Aneros.com "Disclaimer", "Terms of use", and "Privacy policy", and could not find anything that said otherwise. Or even mentioned an age limit for purchasers of their products.

    This is the first time I've bought anything online, and I want to know if something is sent in the mail separate from the package you order. In the checkout/billing, the billing form asks for address and such, and that has me a bit worried.


    No. You will receive one package assuming they are both in stock and ship together. In the package will be a paper invoice. During check out you have to provide an address so they know where to ship it to. But also as a means of authentication that the person ordering is the owner of the credit card. Make sure that your billing and shipping address are the same. Otherwise you need to notify your credit card company of a different shipping address. These are completely normal and typical procedures for ordering over the Internet.

    Do I receive a letter or receipt or anything from the folks of Aneros?


    Besides the paper invoice that comes with the package. You will get two e-mails confirming the order and then the shipment if I recall correctly.

    About what size box would I be expecting if I were to order the Helix and the six pack of Marksman lube?


    I think it may depend on what sort of shipping you select. I've only ordered single prostrate massager's at a time, and if I recall correctly, they arrived in a large padded FedEx envelope, as I had chosen two or three day shipping. The name on the return address and the credit card bill will show as "High Island Health". So even if one of your roomies sees it. It's not at all obvious what it is, unless they happen to search the name on the Internet. The Marksman lube doesn't look all that big in physical size. So it wouldn't surprise me if they would pack it into the same padded envelope. The size of the padded envelope I would say is a few inches longer and wider than a standard 8.5"x11" piece of paper.

    If you want to be absolutely sure of these things, you should e-mail: [email]support@aneros.com[/email]


    Love is Peace
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    hello thecompy-

    if you don't order overnight, you'll get a box from the US Post (mailman) that is about the size of a small paperback book.

    i hope you don't mind if make a suggestion.

    instead of getting the 6 pack of marksman, buy the lube applicator
    http://www.aneros.com/detail.php?id=22

    then you can buy any lube of your choice (there are many discussions about that here) at your local drugstore or wherever. you'd go through the six pack in a blink.

    note that this lube applicator has a latex o-ring in the syringe, so it is only compatible with water-based lubes (such as marksman, ky, probe, ID Glide, etc), and not compatible with oil based lubes (such as vaseline, coconut oil, albolene, etc). to get started, it will be fine, and it works really well.

    (i always thought the marksman lube was kind of a rip-off.)

    darwin
  • Okay, now that I've got a good, positive reaction to the fact that I'm 19, I think I'll come straight and say it's not roomies, but parents I'm worried about. I just wanted to make sure you people weren't going to be bashing me for being so young first off. Please don't bash me now for lying or living with parents still, I'm a poor college kid who can hardly afford to pay attention and doesn't trust too easily... I'd have to say I'm claiming the youngest person on here until proven otherwise. :D

    Oh, and you guys can just call me compy. I was going to be my usual screenname of _____(removed due to suggestion), but I messed up sending the confirmation code to the wrong email address.

    So yeah, hope you people won't be mad at me, I just tend to be cautious is all, but anyways... There are new questions that have sprung up in relation to your responses. Two of which may have completely shattered my little plan to have this delivered to me.

    Love_is,
    Hi, thank you! It was very nice of you to do all that research. Though you bring up a few questions.
    1. I was planning on having this sent to someone else with a different address, then having him deliver it to me on a specific day at a specific time. So from what I gather that you're saying I'd have to contact the bank over having it shipped to a different place than the billing address? (I have a debit card with Visa on it, and it appeared to work fine with ordering. I tested it on here, but did not submit the final order.)

    Thank you again Love_is.

    Now on to darwin. Thank you too for answering me.
    1. This box, will it have the "High Island Health" on it? I was planning on asking my friend to take in the package, then deliver it to me, like I said above. I was planning on using the excuse of "It's a Christmas present for my parents and I don't want them to even see the box." But if "High Island Health" is on the box... That'll look kinda odd probably.

    2. I definately agree with you on lube prices there, although I think I will decline for now, even if it is more expensive. Maybe some other time I will purchase that. The way I see it the six pack will last me somewhere between six and twelve weeks most likely. There's only one day a week where I get actual "me time."
    But yes, I will definately consider it if I decide to make further purchases from the site... Or maybe I'll buy it along with this grouping of things too. That way instead of it by itself costing me $11, it with the other two things will cost $90 total, with the syringe being $5 instead of $11. Evil shipping costs of doom. You'll rob this college kid of his birthday money and excellent customer service award money. :( Err, Actually I'll have $70 of the $100 for the excellent customer service left.
    Yeah, honestly, I don't feel comfortable going into a general store and buying lube really... I suppose I'll have to "man up" and do it some time.

    Thank you again darwin.
  • Do you have a walmart near you that has self checkout? I sometimes buy the walmart brand equate personal lubricant its like $2 max a tube. I use the self checkout and use my debit card no harm done. They also sell a decent children's medicine syringe for cheap it works good for me.
  • Promass said:

    ...self checkout...
    ...the walmart brand equate personal lubricant its like $2 max a tube...
    ...a decent children's medicine syringe...


    Oh, good ideas. I'll make note of those. Thank you Promass for the suggestions.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    thecompy-

    a few things. first, you are not the youngest. there are a bunch of 18 and 19 yo's that have been on the forum.

    second, you are old enough to kill and die for your country. you are definitely old enough to buy lube. go to it man.

    third, you are also old enough to receive a package at your parent's home for your own private use. if they ask what it is, you can say "a personal item." unless they are really messed up, they will respect your privacy and forget about it forthwith. remember, just because you know what it is, doesn't mean they will have the foggiest idea it is anything remotely interesting or "taboo." if you absolutely must, go to the drug store and buy some wacky product and put it in the bathroom a couple of days later and if they are nosy, that will solve it.

    you should definitely include the applicator in your package. it is too cheap not to. it is better than the syringes you can get elsewhere because it includes the e-z insertion tip.

    by the way, alternatively, have you tried the "find a retailer" tool http://malegspot.com/retailers.php ? maybe there is one near you.

    good luck...

    one more thing: i suggest you hit the "edit" button above your previous post and remove your "usual screen name" from the post. i suspect it is better to be here without cross references to other sites.

    darwin
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello again compy, :)

    Some excellent replies by Promass and darwin.

    I just wanted to make sure you people weren't going to be bashing me for being so young first off. Please don't bash me now for lying or living with parents still, I'm a poor college kid who can hardly afford to pay attention and doesn't trust too easily...


    I'm almost 100% sure that the users and moderators in this forum would not tolerate that sort of behavior. Matter of fact the "Terms of Use" for the forum makes it very clear that that sort of language should not be posted, and may be removed or edited if it is. My experience with the people here has been that they are friendly, accepting, respectful, and understanding. Regardless of age, race, gender, nationality, and creed. Pretty rare for a forum. Matter of fact, this place is a real gem!

    So from what I gather that you're saying I'd have to contact the bank over having it shipped to a different place than the billing address? (I have a debit card with Visa on it, and it appeared to work fine with ordering. I tested it on here, but did not submit the final order.)


    I would stronly consider darwin's advice concerning this. But if you are still unwilling to do that...
    Yes. You have to contact your bank that issues your credit card and have them keep an alternate shipping address on file.

    (I have a debit card with Visa on it, and it appeared to work fine with ordering. I tested it on here, but did not submit the final order.)


    Entering your data on the order page without submitting will not test if it works or not. It is only after you submit the order that your information gets verified. A word of advice though... It is generally considered to be a bad idea to order over the Internet using a debit card. I say this for the safety of the money you have in your bank account. And this is not because of anything that Aneros.com would purposely do. But because of the consequences of processing mistakes and data theft. You should read the following two links as very good examples of the problems and consequences of doing so.

    http://www.gramcord.org/howorder.htm
    Scroll down to the section: TGI no longer accepts DEBIT CARDS.

    http://www.audio-bible.com/security.html
    Scroll down to the section: What if someone steals my Credit Card information?

    Like darwin suggested, a local sex toy shop might carry Aneros prostate massager's if you can't safely order over the Internet.

    This box, will it have the "High Island Health" on it?


    I doubt the box will have any wording or marketing mumbo jumbo on it. It would either be a plain brown box, or a USPS Priority mail box with the name and return address together in small print. But darwin can verify that for sure. Since were on the subject... Might as well have a chuckle about this.
    http://www.densu.dk/userise/billeder/dildo.jpg
    :lol:

    Yeah, honestly, I don't feel comfortable going into a general store and buying lube really... I suppose I'll have to "man up" and do it some time.


    It's really no big deal. I remember being your age and having the same insecurities about this sort of thing. Here's the thing you have to consider... Do you really think that you are the only one that buys sex lube, condoms, and porno mags at the store? Human sexuality is a normal and everyday part of life. I'm sure the cashier has seen all types come in to buy these things, and could care less. Besides, who cares what they think! They don't run your life. Be proud of your desire to experience and express your own sexuality, in your own way, as this is completely normal. This is what most other people do. The fact that you had the nerve to register to this forum and ask these questions is a great first step! :)

    My preference of lube is unrefined 100% shea butter. (Hint: It's completely natural, it works and lasts waaaaaaayy better than any of these water/glycerin based lubes suggested.) You will usually find it in the cosmetics section of your local health food store as it is sold as a hand/skin moisturizer.


    Love is Peace
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    love_is

    are you sure about this shipping address stuff?

    i have sent gifts to people, using a different shipping and payment address, and have never had to contact my bank!

    also, without looking into it, i would think that if it is approved, it would be fine to use a debit card to purchase from high island health. if you are not sure about the seller, that would be one thing, but i really don't think there is any real risk of a problem.

    the box is a plain US postal box, with a discreet return address on it, small print.

    darwin
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hi darwin, :)

    are you sure about this shipping address stuff? i have sent gifts to people, using a different shipping and payment address, and have never had to contact my bank!


    I sure am. This is absolutely standard procedure. And if it is not being heeded by either the retailer or your credit card issuer, I would question how much concern they have for you as a customer, the security of your credit card data, the safety of your money, and your financial record.

    also, without looking into it, i would think that if it is approved, it would be fine to use a debit card to purchase from high island health. if you are not sure about the seller, that would be one thing, but i really don't think there is any real risk of a problem.


    Darwin, don't get the wrong idea. I know you make a lot of very good and informative posts here. And myself, and I'm sure everyone else appreciates that. But this is not a subject to take lightly and offer advice without knowing the facts. Hence not looking into it.

    Like I said in my previous post, I'm sure Aneros.com would not purposely do anything incorrect or fraudulent if you ordered with a debit card. But, if you had read the links in my previous posts, you would see that the problems that occur are from unintentional errors and data theft. The problem with this is that any charges that are applied to your debit card, are linked, and come right out of your checking/savings bank account. So any processing errors or illegitimate/fraudulent charges come out of YOUR money. And your bank will hold no responsibility to cover these charges. Unlike a credit card where fraud and illegal/incorrect charges are protected when you report them, and the credit card company eats the loss.

    With that said. I think you are a fine fellow darwin. I continue to look forward to reading your posts, and I hold no ill will towards you at all. :)

    Love is Peace
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    love_is

    can somebody else give us some perspective here?

    i truly doubt it is standard procedure to contact a bank.

    (1) i know for sure that amazon does not do this, as i regularly send gifts from there.

    (2) requiring this would put a major obstacle in the way of standard gift giving online. i just doubt this.

    (3) yes, there is a risk that there could be fraud if the package is sent to a different address, but, it is not that much greater than any credit card transaction. there are a lot of checks in the process, like requesting the billing address and the 3-digit crc code on the back of the card.

    (4) all that really matters is if the aneros site requires this, which i doubt. support???

    (5) if a site doesn't require this, no, i don't think they are putting their customers at risk. it is the credit card's responsibility and risk to ensure reasonably against fraud.

    as far as using a debit card, yes, i read one of the sites you linked to. i understand the implications of using a debit card. however, in reality, making one transaction to a trustworthy site carries no significant risk, ie, no greater than getting killed in a car accident driving to a super market. i agree it is good to be informed of the risk. but, given that, it is also reasonable to act practically given how small the risk is.

    support, do you allow this kind of transaction? have you had problems with them?

    darwin
  • enigma
    Posts: 90

    "Please don't bash me now for lying or living with parents still"



    Should I be embarrassed, I was still living with my parents until I was nearly 27 :oops:

    But I have now been married for 30 years so everything worked out ok.

    I think Brian and the others are not back from London until today, so there might be a slight delay getting a response fron support.
  • Go get a postal money order. I get mine at a bank, they fill out the amount, give it to me and I fill out the rest in the car and then mail it to Hih/aneros. Or go to the store and get a gift credit card for an amount close to the purchase price and order it by phone. where there is a will/ there is a way.
  • Whoa! A lot of replies between 9:50 and noon!

    I wish I would've had time to get my post in, but some idiot *coughMecough* screwed something up and it erased my entire post...

    Anyways... Going down the list of replies here. I'll reply to what I find relevant to me.

    Okay, I guess that's good. I was under the impression that you were all fairly older than me... I dunno, late 20's, 30's, possibly 40's. At least there should be a couple people here and there on here that relate to me as far as age.

    darwin said:

    second, you are old enough to kill and die for your country. you are definitely old enough to buy lube. go to it man.


    Heh, so true. I'd prefer not to die for my country though. Maybe killing I wouldn't mind so much(I'm "not" violent...) but definately dying would be bad for my health. I don't think I could stand being in any branch of the army/navy/etc. I just don't think I could stand it.
    But, yes, that is true, I'm old enough to do that.

    darwin said:

    third, you are also old enough to receive a package at your parent's home for your own private use. if they ask what it is, you can say "a personal item." unless they are really messed up, they will respect your privacy and forget about it forthwith. remember, just because you know what it is, doesn't mean they will have the foggiest idea it is anything remotely interesting or "taboo." if you absolutely must, go to the drug store and buy some wacky product and put it in the bathroom a couple of days later and if they are nosy, that will solve it.


    Again true. Though my family is messed up.
    My mother is a total lunatic, quite literally. She's been in the loony bin three times now. If the meds don't work this time by 1/1/09 she's gone. I'm not too fond of her at all, and she's very snoopy. I wouldn't doubt if she'd open a box that I got in the mail.
    My father runs his own business, and receives MANY, MANY boxes almost daily. I'm worried that he may mistake my box for one of his and open it up. He's very anti-gay, and would very likely perceive this toy as "gay." Man I'm afraid of what he'd do there...
    I must know, what exactly would you mean by "wacky product?" Like, literally wacky, as in dog vomit and stupid junk like that?

    darwin said:

    you should definitely include the applicator in your package. it is too cheap not to. it is better than the syringes you can get elsewhere because it includes the e-z insertion tip.

    by the way, alternatively, have you tried the "find a retailer" tool http://malegspot.com/retailers.php ? maybe there is one near you.


    I will if/when I do/can order.

    This is where I buggered up and it erased all my response, and it was 9:50 at the time, so I needed to get to class. I clicked on "HOME" and accidentally forgot to open it in a new tab... Anyways, I checked this, and there are absolutely zero stores nearby that carry Aneros products. I'd have to go 1-2 states away to get to a sex store with them. Curses to my boring city! We may have some of the highest STI/STD rates around, but do we have a decent sex shop anywhere? Noooo.

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    Okay, well, I just wanted to make sure Love_is, sometimes forums get to be a bit far from their Codes of Conduct and Terms of Use. I bet this place is a gem, mostly because there are people who are going to be mature here, for the most part.

    Love_is said:I would stronly consider darwin's advice concerning this. But if you are still unwilling to do that...
    His advice to just send it to myself instead of going through my friend? Just want to clarify.

    Love_is said:Entering your data on the order page without submitting will not test if it works or not. It is only after you submit the order that your information gets verified. A word of advice though... It is generally considered to be a bad idea to order over the Internet using a debit card. I say this for the safety of the money you have in your bank account...
    Oh, really? Dang. Well, it did go through to the "Review" page, and that's where I cancelled it.
    Should I get a credit card then for the purpose of purchasing these products? Honestly I don't have much money anyways... As I've said before... Poor college kid. I work for $6.60 an hour, but at least I get free movies, yeah? :D
    I wish this place took PayPal or something... Then again, I'm not familiar with how that works either...

    Okay, so a small print return address and name on it, wouldn't be too bad I guess... I've seen that picture before! Haha! Thanks dude, humor is always appreciated. Just isn't much to laugh at these days...

    Love_is said:It's really no big deal. I remember being your age and having the same insecurities about this sort of thing. Here's the thing you have to consider... Do you really think that you are the only one that buys sex lube, condoms, and porno mags at the store? Human sexuality is a normal and everyday part of life. I'm sure the cashier has seen all types come in to buy these things, and could care less. Besides, who cares what they think! They don't run your life. Be proud of your desire to experience and express your own sexuality, in your own way, as this is completely normal. This is what most other people do. The fact that you had the nerve to register to this forum and ask these questions is a great first step!
    Hey... I don't buy any of those!... Yet... ;) Well, I don't think I'd go for the porno mags anyways. Free stuff on the net, even if you have to be careful of viruses/trojans/etc. Plus I've got my trusty laptop with wifi, so it's all good. Anyways, back on topic...
    I know it's natural/everyday, but that still doesn't stop me from my uneasiness. I'm just a generally very nervous person... Public speech, talk of sexuality(mine more specifically), things I want to do(as far as sexual things), and other stuff like that all make me really nervous... Heck, even meeting new people scares the hell out of me... I'm a shy kid... very shy... Probably borderline social anxiety problems. Though strangely enough most of my shyness goes away when either I'm online or I'm at work. I dunno what it is about work, but something there just makes me be a bit more outgoing... Maybe it's the popcorn fumes getting to my head? Online I know that nobody can really do anything to me, even if they want to, so I don't have much to worry about on here.

    As for your lube choice Love_is... Shea butter? Never heard of it, but I think I will look into it. Is it really oily or anything like that? Is it pretty easy to clean up?


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    Okay, apparently color doesn't work through Quotes and such... Oh well... Next!
    Hello again darwin.

    Thank you for confirming the thoughts on the box.

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    Skipping Love_is' post since it's directed towards darwin. On to darwin again.

    I did a little research... Here's what I found. It seems that Love_is wins this time darwin.
    http://www.querycat.com/faq/61bd26bf7077304c97cfb67bcecd1689
    There's very few that say that you do not need to verify with the bank, but I think that may just be because they're vague...
    Though I dunno, I think maybe I'll try to get it sent to him, and if it shows up to me I'll tell my bud that I got it and it came to me by accident. Unfortunately it seems like everywhere/everyone is cracking down on internet security as far as credit/debit cards are concerned.

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    enigma! Dude, don't worry about it. Considering my financial well-being, or lack thereof really, I'll probably be stuck with mine until sometime around then too. I'm taking college slow(it's not a race) and it'll probably leave me dirt poor 'til the very end. Hopefully later on, like next summer or something, I can get a better job though.

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    fllurker
    Postal money order... Okay, so go to the bank and get one of those. Do they just call it a postal money order? They fill in the amount? So, you tell them X amount and they'll put it in for you. You fill out the rest of the "card"? Is that what you meant to say? Though as far as options, the second one you suggest sounds better. but is there call-in ordering at Aneros? I don't think I've seen it... Then again, I sometimes miss the blatantly obvious.
    Thank you for your suggestions.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    compy-

    ok on the shyness. got ya.

    ok on the family. got ya.

    yeah, flurker's idea of the money order sounds like a good one. dodges the whole problem.

    also, if you order by phone, it is possible you could ask aneros to specify "Hold for Pickup" which will keep the box at the post office till you get it.

    that said, i am quite sure that if the aneros form asks for a shipping address, they will mail to it, rather than to the billing address, despite the link you found.

    i do think calling in your order would be the way to go, so you can ask the questions you need to directly to a person.

    (go to the contact link at the top of the home page)

    darwin
  • Yup...

    Now there's only the problem of transportation... I don't have a car yet... or a liscense for that matter... Oh man I'm so far behind! I suppose I could walk to the bank, but it's getting cold here, and it takes a good hour to get up there.

    Again car issues come into effect with the "hold for pickup" option.

    *nodnod* That's what I'm going to hope for, them sending it to the specified address. Why would they even ask for two separate addresses if they were only going to send it to your billing one anyways? Or why don't they ask if it's going to be the same shipping address AFTER you enter your billing address?

    Actually for the most part I've gotten nearly all my questions answered on here.
    (Thank you for pointing me to that.)
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello compy, :)

    Sounds like you've figured out what you want to do. So I'll just comment on the shea butter.
    This link will give you an overview of what it is.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shea_butter

    At room temperature it's like the consistency of dairy butter that's been in the refrigerator. Then it melts to a creamy/frothy like oil at body temperature, so it's not very runny. It's not that much more difficult to clean than water/glycerin based lubes. When I wash my MGX and Helix after a session, it takes 2 or 3 washings in the sink to get the the oil off of them. With washing my body, I used to wash twice to get all the oil off until I realized that the oil is good for my skin. So one wash is enough now. You can read more detailed observations about it in the following link.

    http://www.aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2838&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
    Start from my forth post and continue down, it should answer your questions.

    Love is Peace
  • 'Lo again Love_is,

    Yeah, I've figured out what I'm going to do prettymuch. Now I just need to get to it.

    Anyways, shea butter.
    -- Reading, please wait... ... ...
    Hmmh... Neat. I like how Wiki doesn't mention your use. You should edit that page and add that in. :D I'd like it even better like that.

    In regards to your posts... Wow, sounds like it'd work quite well for me. I guess I could stand it being a little bit messier, maybe put down a towel so I won't screw up my sheets too much.

    Uhm, three last questions I hope... How do you get it out of your rectum/anus when cleaning up? (Or whatever it's called... Ass to be blunt.)
    And... Where can I purchase this at? A specifically "Health" and such store? Or do you think it'd be at a general store?
    Last one I think. How long can you keep it if you refrigerate it? What about if you store it at room temperature?

    Edit: Okay... I was wrong, I have one more question. If I'm worried it may show up on a certain day, do you think I should just go ahead and pay more for the 1-2 day delivery? There's two days in particular that I don't want it to show up on, since that could be my highest risk of discovery on those days. Wednesday and Friday.
    Thank yah.
  • I dunno if they have the option, but most places offer UPS with tracking. Will let you know what day to expect it.
    When I lived with my parents I just rented a PO box a few miles from my house and had all the stuff sent there that I did not want them to know about. It worked great. :D
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello compy, :)

    Anyways, shea butter.
    -- Reading, please wait... ... ...
    Hmmh... Neat. I like how Wiki doesn't mention your use. You should edit that page and add that in. Very Happy I'd like it even better like that.


    I was under the impression that you needed to be a moderator to edit the WIKI. If that's the case, then I do not have those privileges.

    I guess I could stand it being a little bit messier, maybe put down a towel so I won't screw up my sheets too much.


    Yep, putting down a towel works great. It is what I do.

    Uhm, three last questions I hope... How do you get it out of your rectum/anus when cleaning up? (Or whatever it's called... Ass to be blunt.)


    Sit on the toilet and push like your taking a dump. My experience has been that I don't necessarily always have to do that, as you don't need to use much. And I'd imagine by the end of the session, some of it has been absorbed into your body. But I suppose it never hurts to do it for insurance reasons so you don't end up having any squirts in your pants later. Or "sheaits", as a user named Voyager here called it. :lol:

    And... Where can I purchase this at? A specifically "Health" and such store? Or do you think it'd be at a general store?


    Specifically what store you'd find it at, I don't know. Any health food store should have it. Beyond that, I don't know. You could always order it over the Internet though if you cannot find it locally.

    Last one I think. How long can you keep it if you refrigerate it? What about if you store it at room temperature?


    http://agbangakarite.com/storage_shea.php
    I keep mine at room temperature, about 68 degrees Fahrenheit. I don't know what it will be like in the hot summer months yet. But if it gets to soft, you could always briefly chill it in the refrigerator or freezer if you needed to. I'm not sure if permanently refrigerating it will increase it's shelf life. If you think it will spoil before you get to use it all, buy a smaller quantity of it.

    If I'm worried it may show up on a certain day, do you think I should just go ahead and pay more for the 1-2 day delivery?


    The_Bishop has some good ideas. Although, UPS and FedEx do not ship to P.O. Boxes. So you would have to stick to USPS shipping for that. And yes, Aneros.com does send you a tracking number. I can't remember if they use UPS or FedEx. But both shipping companies track all their packages. You've got a pretty specific schedule for it to arrive on. I suppose if you ordered it Thursday evening with two day shipping, you'd get it on Monday. I would really talk to [email]support@aneros.com[/email] though about this. As it depends on how quickly they process the order, and how quickly it goes out for shipping. Another option is to order it online from one of the many Aneros authorized retailers that is closer in proximity to you. But then once again, you would have to communicate with that company to see how fast orders are processed and sent out for shipping.

    Love is Peace
  • Thanks The Bishop and Love_is.

    I did not know that about Wiki stuff. Learning something every day I guess...

    Okay, I was thinking you did that to get it out. I just wanted to make sure. Hershey's squirts would not be a good idea, I'll definately make sure to do it for those insurance reasons.

    Okay, I bet I know a spot that would have it then, theres some store around here, a Walmart I think, that has this all natural section or health section or something like that. I'm thinkin' it'd probably be there.

    Alrighty then, I think I know where I could keep the butter at. Easy access when I need to be buttered up. :P Yay for cheesy jokes...

    USPS can go to P.O. boxes. UPS and FedEx do not. Kay.

    Aneros sends a tracking number to mark a general where it is. Hehe, reminds me of a funny xkcd comic. This one. http://xkcd.com/281/ It'll probably be what I'll be doing. :P

    Aneros uses USPS for the cheapest delivery method, and FedEx for the one and two day deliveries.

    Yeah, I know I have a specific schedule... My Wednesdays are when I have my looong school days. From 7AM to 9PM those days. Fridays are my school and work days. I get off school (actually fairly early now, 10AM) and then at 5ish PM I go to work. I suppose Fridays may work... if it gets there before 5PM... Tuesday or Thursday would be ideal days for the package to arrive, order on a Monday. (maybe Sunday if my process of thinking is right. Order Sunday at like midnight, they fill the order on Monday and take it to the Post Office, Post Office ships it and it gets to me on Tuessday. Sound right? It does depend on how long they take to fill the order.) I think actually I'd have to worry more about Monday than Friday at the moment.

    I think I'll give the [email]support@aneros.com[/email] a mail pretty soon here. Find out time to process an order and get it out for shipping.

    That's a good idea! Never thought of looking for other Aneros sellers. I think I'll take a look around tonight and see what I can find. If I find one(preferrably cheaper) then maybe I will just order from there instead.
  • Compy--you're one funny dude. After reading your posts, I felt like going on Ritalin.

    Good luck with your purchase!

    Cheerios,
    flipflyer
  • FLIPFLYER!!! ... I have no clue who you are... HI!

    Hehe, sometimes I feel like I may have ADHD. I do kinda jump around a lot in my posts. I think it's just because I'm so used to only talking to one person at a time through PMs on a different site. Each section of my post responds to the corresponding section of the person to whom I'm replying's post. For example, look at the structure of this post. It is only slightly different from your post. Your post goes as follows:
    1. Hi and Ritalin.
    2. Purchase.
    3. G'bye
    My post is going as follows:
    1. Hi! + info I think applies to this topic.
    2. Ritalin? + info I think applies to this topic.
    3. Purchase. + info I think applies to this topic.
    4. Adios. + info I think applies to this topic.

    Thank you much for the luck. I plan to order it on either Sunday or Monday. Most likely Monday, at like 1-2 AM in the morning... which it is right now here. Hopefully then my package will be out and will arrive on Tuesday at my friends doorstep, and he'll take it in until I call for it on Tuesday or Thursday. Also hopefully he won't be curious about "High Island Health" and look that up... That'll be awkward explaining that to him...

    Adios mi amigo, and no I don't really speak Spanish. I know like, that... and that's it.
    compy.
  • Good news everybody!

    I got an email back from [email]support@aneros.com[/email] today, like... 30 minutes ago actually. Lucky timing on my part.

    Here's what they/he/she said in response to these questions:
    -- I was wondering how long it takes to process the order and how quickly the order goes out for shipping?
    -- If I were to order on a Monday at 2AM with two day shipping, would I most likely receive my order on Thursday? If location is needed, I'm in Omaha, NE.
    -- Do you send orders to the billing address if the specified address to be sent to is not confirmed with the bank or credit card company?

    [quote= The person that responded from Aneros Support]Once we receive your order it will be processed that morning and it will be sent to the post office that same day. IF you placed the order at 2 Am then it would be processed that morning and it would be sent off that same exact day so you would most loikely see your package on Thursday. You can send your package to whichever address you want whether it be your billing address or not. If you have any more questions free free to email us back!

    1. Yup, that person didn't spell likely right. I thought that was a little funny.
    2. Whoot, all fears removed, ordering tonight at about that time mentioned... Though technically it will be Tuesday at that time, and I'm going for 5-day shipping. My friend has already given me the go-ahead on delivering to his house, and the only thing I'm hoping is that he doesn't google "High Island Health" and see what that is. That will be hard to explain as a "Christmas present"... Though if he does, then I may have some explaining to do... Oh well, he's pretty mature about things... He'll understand, hopefully.
    3. Love_is, looks like you may be wrong there. They say they'll send it to any address wether it's the billing address or not.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    let's just hope your friend doesn't:
    (a) google HIH
    (b) realize what it is
    (c) rip open the package and desperately seek privacy to give at a whirl
    (d) replace the missing unit in the box with a white chocolate bunny

    (my experience w/ 5-day delivery (in a mid-atlantic state) is that it comes in about 2-3 days. don't know about NE)

    darwin
  • Haha, that gave me a good laugh. Thank yah Darwin.
    I really don't think my friend would do parts B through D. Though if he did, then damn he's really different from what I know him as. Though knowing him, it is possible that he will look up HIH. I just hope either
    A, he asks no questions
    or B, understands me and doesn't grow distant.
    And if he does do parts B through D, well, someone is going to have some explaining to do to a rather curious me.

    Alright then, 5-day delivery may be shorter than 5 days. Thanks for the head's up. I'll give my friend the message that it'll be sometime within a week of today.
  • Uh oh...

    --Kay, current situation people:
    I ordered, I got the Helix, lube, lube applicator. Ordered with 5-day shipping.
    I KNOW I specified that the signature be waived, it was on YES, but apparently that wasn't the case. Now I have a few problems to worry about.

    My friend wasn't home yesterday when the packaged was supposed to be delivered, so they left a note saying it is at the Post Office. I dunno what all it said on it... He called me and told me about it.

    A few things:
    1. He seems to be getting a bit suspicious of me... Should I tell him? He is a good friend, I don't think there's too much of a chance he'd be real mad or start ignoring me or anything...
    -- If you think I should tell him, what should I tell him? There's a lot he doesn't know about me... I could rattle of quite a few things...

    2. My dad visits the post office a lot, as in daily, to ship out orders that he gets. The package was sent under my name. The last name is the same... I sent it as my name so my friend would know it was mine when it arrived... I'm really worried they'll be like, "Oh you're Mr. Krzycki, is this for you?" Can they do that? Do they do that? Monday is coming up soon...
  • First thing monday morning call the PO and tell them you will be in to get the package and to make sure it is only signed for by me and not anyone else. They will do that for you. Or just get to the post office when the door opens. Or have them redeliver it Mon to your freinds house.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    oh my god, how ridiculous!

    first, in all my days, i've never had the post office do that. they just dump the damn package.

    anyway, compy, take a breath.

    no matter what happens, in the end you will get your package. let's move away from panic here. worst case (which i don't think will happen), your father picks it up, and you tell him it is "a personal guy thing you didn't want your mother involved in." nobody's going to jail. nobody's getting hurt, etc. you need to separate your guilt about this package from the reality that it is just a package.

    on the address, did you put c/o your friend, or, did you just put your name on his address? if the latter, that may be why they wanted a signature.

    how about this:
    - go to your friend's house and get the slip
    - on monday, either call the post office and tell them to hold it, or, ask them if they will just deliver it to your friend's house w/o a signature
    - otherwise, does your friend have a car? maybe he can give you a lift to the post office.

    let's look on the bright side: your helix almost in hand.

    darwin
  • Billy11
    Posts: 280
    This has go to be the most awesome thread I've read on this site. I think what amazes me the most about it is how help full everybody who's responding has been considering the topic. I understand where you're coming from compy in not wanting to be "found out" about what you're doing by your parents. I remember times in my life when I was younger when I was afraid about people finding out about my sexual explorations. I must say I'm in the best relationship I've ever been in now because of my honesty with my partner about my sexual desires and exploring tendencies.
    Seems like you have a lot of trust in your friend which is good cause that sounds like a good friend. Even if your friend does look into this site he'll probably be very curious and end up buying one himself. We're all sexual beasts. If anything if he's a good enough friend for you to trust with this mission then I'm sure he'll be cool regardless. People are curious beings so I can't see how he couldn't ask you why you're going to this extent to get this package without your parents finding out or at least looking up the website.
    It's a liberating feeling though to let people you trust in on your secrets. It feels like freedom!
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    hey billy, compy-

    i thought about this, and came to the opposite conclusion.

    it won't surprise you that i have been somewhat evangelical about the aneros and MMO.

    i have found excuses to tell a ton of friends, relatives and co-workers.

    and, with only one exception i get the same response. basically, either you are into this kind of thing or you're not. and, if you are not, you really don't want to hear about it. in one case my friend was interested in the peridise for him and his girlfriend, and i gave him an extra one i had. never heard more about it from him.

    so, it really all depends on your relationship with your friend. but, unless it is a particularly trusting and understanding one, i suspect this would fall under the category of "too much information."

    plus, you are a young dude, and i could imagine that this friend would have a hard time keep this info to himself.

    billy11 mentioned how he told his girlfriend, which is a much different matter. i would always encourage that. but, with a buddy it is not so obvious.

    darwin
  • fllurker,
    I don't have time to do that in the morning. I get up at 6:00ish, groggily get dressed, brush teeth, comb hair, put contacts in, load up backpack, and leave. At no time do I get near the phone.

    -----
    Darwin,
    Worst case - Father does pick up package and opens it/searches HIH... Get's all freaked out... Removes me from the house...
    2nd worst case - Above without removal from house, just removal from his general life. (Ignorance, etc.)

    Uhm... no, I didn't know where to put "c/o my friend" at... I was considering putting it in the Company spot, but I didn't think that was right... I ended up not putting it. Whoops?

    Your suggestion, one minor problem:
    I get up and go straight to college prettymuch, and I'm probably the only person my age who doesn't have a cell phone.
    He says he will give me a lift to the Post Office, but he kinda wants to know what's going on...

    -----
    Billy,

    I don't have a partner, haven't ever... Shyness/cowardice is my main problem... But whatever, this is not about that.

    Hahaha, I really doubt my friend would buy something like this, he's... I dunno how to explain him, but if you knew him you'd know what he was like almost instantly. He could be curious enough to find out what one was, but I highly doubt him ever purchasing one.

    As far as that liberating feeling, I know what you mean, but honestly I'd prefer if people didn't know for now.

    -----
    Darwin 2

    Evangelist! :P

    He's a great friend, known him since... Sophomore year I think. We've sat together in lunch every day from then on talking about random stuff(Ninjas, Zombies, Portal(game), etc. etc.)... Except senior year, then we sat with each other every other day, cause they were trying out partial block scheduling.

    As far as youth, he's very mature and can definately keep secrets. He's not one to go blabbing what I say is "top-secret" to other people. I know I could trust him with information, but I don't know what he would do once he received said information. Would he be fine with it? Would he start removing me from his life? Would he start acting odd around me? (I know you can't answer these questions.)

    -----
    All

    Thank you very much. You've all been very helpful to me, and there isn't much longer to go.
  • A couple of thoughts about purchasing aneros and accessories ....if you are within travel distance of NYC or several other cities there are several retail shops where you can buy aneros products. Try googling retailers ...you will be amazed how many places in a variety of cities deal in aneros products. If that is not possible ....for 36 dollars you can get a po box in the next town to where you live. It cost $36 for 6 months. If you get the smallest box possible the cost is cheap. The packages that you will recieve will not fit in it but the PO will put a note in your box that you have a package to pick up.

    With a PO Box in anbother town there is no chance for home delivery because it is in the next town and you are the only one who knows that you have a package to pick up. Althought I am way older than 19 ....when I was 19 I used to mail order stuff this way that I didn't want my mom to know about.

    You might consider this approach because trust me ....the first order will not be your last. Once you get one you will be buying others. If you research the best prices on line you will find that some of the retailers will not be very discrete in masking their return addresses.
  • GOD DAMNIT!!!

    Update on the progression, or lack thereof to be more accurate:
    - I may have to tell my friend in order to get him to help me, 'cause I'm not going to my parents for it. I don't care if it's in a box that only I know the contents of, I'm NOT going to let them see anything. Period. No ifs ands or buts. Human curiousity is NOT something that they lack.
    -The current happening is this: He WAS going to take me there today, but he has work now in 30ish minutes from when I'm writing this. If only I'd gotten out earlier... Ugh! Now he says he's going to give me the ticket/receipt thing they put on his door instead of the package saying that they have the package there and are keeping it for me. He also says "It's no big deal, you can just go get it right?" God I just want to yell WRONG! so badly and still have everything be right with the world... Every damn thing goes wrong, just typical of my life. Try and acquire something and the whole thing backfires in my face.

    -- I'm ticked right now, forgive the rude language. I'm just sick of everything going wrong lately.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello compy, :)

    I have much compassion for your situation. And can understand why you are upset.
    I often find that when I start to feel like the world is operating against me, and nothing goes right, that a change in my perception and attitude is in order. This usually revolves around remembering to surrender and accept what happens in my life, particularly if something occurs in a manner that I did not expect or want it to happen. From an intellectual point of view, I find it pointless to get upset over things that I cannot control. Even though I still do at times. Nobodies perfect. :P

    When I can surrender, accept, breathe deeply, relax, and allow things to just be, rather than attempt to interfere. The journey of life flow much smoother and pleasanter.

    Just remember, neither yourself or anyone else will be physically harmed or killed from finding out what you ordered. What you are doing is completely normal human sexual curiosity. And this applies to even if any of your friends or family disagree. Then it would be time to put up the necessary psychological boundaries with these people and consider finding more accepting friends.

    I don't suspect that anything terrible is going to happen from what has occurred. But in the state of mind you are in, that is certainly difficult to see.

    I hope you don't mind me suggesting that you do a search on the Internet about the topics of shame and guilt. These are two nasty things that occur around the topic of sex and all kinds of other things time and time again. I've learned a lot about myself from doing this. And have learned over time to let some of it go, and hope to continue to let the rest of it go as I'm ready to.

    Trust that all will be well. By focusing on what is positive in your life, and being grateful for it, you will bring forth more of this positive abundance. We tend to attract into our lives what we think about. When all you see is the wrong things happening in life, that is what will continue to happen, and that is the way you will interpret it.

    I trust that things will work out for the best for you.

    Love is Peace
  • Thank you Love_is, you see the world waaaay differently from me. I have the biggest trouble with seeing the silver lining and stuff like that, as well as accepting what has happened. I hate when things go wrong for me, especially when so many wrong things happen within a short distance of each other.

    -----

    One last one for a while I hope.

    - I'm requesting a redelivery, because I can.
    - Questions concerning the redelivery form:
    -- Where should I put the c/o "friendsnamehere" at? In the "special notes" section?
    -- Phone number, although required, is something I don't see necessary since they've made it to his house before without problem. Would it be wise to put a fake number? Should I ask my bud if I can use his number?

    And now for something completely random and pointless.
    Oh man today was good. I only had one class, then my family(most of it anyways) went to breakfast, then I came home and slept from 11AM to 3PM. Ahh... I needed that. :D
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    compy-

    i can't be sure that the c/o will prevent the signature requirement. i was just speculating.

    so i guess you have the answer of whether they would give the package to your father --no.

    can't you get over to the post office somehow and sign for it??? hire a taxi. borrow a bicycle. get a lift with a friend. walk.

    redelivery seems like it might start a whole new can of worms.

    that said, the c/o can go in Address line 1, and his street can go in Address line 2. (most sites have this structure.)

    the phone number doesn't matter. nobody's gonna call it.

    darwin
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello compy,

    Your welcome. :)
    Don't get the wrong idea. What I wrote is the best possible outlook I can imagine in my life. But practicing it is not all that easy, and I don't always successfully achieve those ideals. I try to do my best. That is all that I can ask of myself.

    It saddens me to see people caught up in the same negative perceptions and interpretations of their life that I often find myself caught up in. So this was just my way of offering some hope to see a different way through what you are experiencing.

    Love is Peace
  • darwin,

    Here's hoping that it does prevent a signature requrement.

    Yeah, I was freaking out that day... I realized that wouldn't be possible for them to do.

    I was going to if this went wrong, but we'll see how this turns out.*

    It may, it may not. Here's hoping that it doesn't start a whole new can of worms.

    I phoned in the redelivery request.*

    -----

    Love_is

    Ah... okay. So you just kind of try for the best look of it or something? It's good that some people can think that way.

    Well sometimes it just happens, you know? You have one too many bad things happen to you and all of a sudden you're realizing your neck deep in troubles.

    -----

    Anyways, thank you both.

    * I requested redelivery today, I hope it arrives soon. It should arrive at his house and not need a signature. I think I got everything straightened out with the post office, so all should be well and I should have my Helix within a week hopefully.
    Now the only thing I hope is that my friend doesn't bring it over at an inopportune time, look up the return address(High Island Health), open it, or get pissed off at me. Or any combination of those things. Or any unforseen event that either damages our friendship or makes things very awkward for me, either around him or my parents.
  • EEEEE!!! It's here it's here it's here!!!
    Err... technically it's at my friend's house, and I may have to wait a bit to get it. I can't get it today, my mom is here, and probably won't be leaving until I have to go to work. Hopefully Monday I will be able to get it from him...

    In the meantime... I'm hoping he won't look it up, like always.
    If he does, which I hope he doesn't, and am fairly certian he wont, but if he does, I really hope that either he just keeps his mouth shut or doesn't demand that I tell him what it is...
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    compy-

    a search for high island health does not come to this site.

    it goes to http://highisland.com, which is a site for prostate health, if that helps.

    darwin
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    I am afraid that thecompy is going to pop before he gets to his first session! Remember guy, don't expect too much that first time out! Listen to me, he might be one of the lucky ones! Good luck thecompy.
  • Thecompy... Reading over your various posts I can see you have had quite a bit of turmoil with your getting to this point of getting your Helix. Helix was the first Aneros that I purchased and I too had a lot of reservation over getting it. It was not my parents but my family members that also receive packages here that concerned me. I decided that I wanted it and whatever happened, happened, and then I would deal with it. This is my way of commenting to you about relaxing your concerns over your friend and if he will explore the origin of the package that he is holding for you. If he should check it out and confront you about what what it is - relax. I presume he is about the same age as you. If he is at all healthy he will be having some of the same sexual release feelings as you. Perhaps he too would like to order one. Maybe he would also want to just keep this to himself. It is impossible to consider all of the what ifs and buts of any situation. Just go with your gut feeling if a situation arises.

    Just one other thing. Once you do get your Helix. Find a quit time in your day, night or week when you can relax within yourself before you even try to use the Helix. I am sure you have read many of the posts here and the suggestions so I won't add any of my own other than if doesn't seem to work out the first time, try another time. If though your excitement you are unable to use it as long as you wanted, try another time.

    I wish you the best.
  • you certainly went through a lot of trouble, i just ordered it when my parents were on vacation.
    but you should always think about this: if people around you aren't ok with aneros use, think about what they miss out on when you achieve the super o.
  • darwin -- It's still semi-embarrassing if he knows what those are intended for... Even if it is for medical purposes...

    Buster -- Naw, I won't burst. Hehe, here's hoping I'm a lucky one. Quite often I am either lucky or very unlucky, never in the middle.

    GeminiDon -- I dunno about my buddy. I mean, he's the same age and all, but he seems all asexual and stuff. "If through your excitement you are unable to use it as long as you wanted"... Huh? Premature finish?

    pocketjacks -- Wow, I wish my parents would leave me home alone and go on vacation to some boring place. Whenever we go it's a huge family thing and everyone has to go, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That's a good way to think of it.

    -----

    Anyways, to my point of posting. Just a quick question for the people here. Lube application on the Helix itself? Kay, so, lube goes on the Helix, in the hole, and on the hole too, I know that. It goes on and in the hole with the help of a finger, I know that too. Though, is there any specific way I should apply it to the Helix? Or just pick my own way and go from there.
  • thecompy,

    Or just pick my own way and go from there.



    You've just given yourself the best advice you'll ever receive.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    compy-

    the marksman lube is in little single-serving units that are meant to be inserted into your butt directly. insert and squeeze. put a little vaseline or similar (not lotion) on the helix and in your hole. just a little to slide it through your hole. not too much to make a mess.

    think of the lubing in two phases. you need to lube your anus (the door) to get stuff in, and you need to lube your rectum (the interior) so the aneros slides around in there.

    darwin
  • Anon17564
    Posts: 57
    I am in a similar position as Compy was, though not as extreme. This thread has actually really helped me plan for how to get my hands on a Helix, although I still have more details to work out myself. Thank you all for going through this so I wouldn't need quite so much support when I start. :)