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Aneros and Wiki Misconception
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    I would like to clear up a misconception I keep reading on this forum and in the recent Wiki. That is the Aneros provides 'dry' orgasms with no refraction period. While it is true that this is the norm for me, I have on at least 4 or 5 occasions experienced a full orgasm / penis ejaculation with semen / prostate fluid - fairly large amounts (over a Tbs). This was typically with the MGX and after an hour or more of other Aneros orgasms and Super O's. It was VERY similar to a normal male orgasm/ejaculation except perhaps it was probably quite a bit more intense. It was also completely hands free. It happened after the orgasmic contractions from all the orgasms continued to climax and make my prostate contract rhythmically. Eventually this led to 'cumming' in a somewhat traditional fashion. There did seem to be a bit of a loss of desire at that point, and a feeling of completeness or being 'done'. I'd describe that as a refractory period.

    Surely I am not the only one experiencing this? Anyone else? I think the documentation needs to be updated to reflect this. Granted for me this typically only happens 1 out of every 10 or 15 sessions, and I believe so far only with the MGX.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Wow, Oh!!

    I have had a few of these sessions as well! (but rarely!)

    But, yours sound fantastic and I "KNOW" your not complaining in ANY WAY!

    But maybe a footnote or something could be in order, or maybe the session needs a name of it's own???

    It sounds like a rather rare occurrence, but maybe something like:

    "Super-O Session with a Happy Ending" or "Super-O/with a Traditional Climax" or whatever???

    What do you think???

    Hlaser99
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    True, seems to give it legitimacy it needs a name. So, you say it's happened to you also? Maybe a poll would be in order to find out what percentage it occurs to. Lately I've been trying to have it but have been unable to for weeks. Mine is really similar to normal ejaculation. I mean, that's what happens, not sure if it is different. Perhaps I just get so excited and feeling so good I then ejaculate? Since the male prostate is likened to female G spot - perhaps it is simlar to female ejaculation where women squirt? Not sure. It does feel good, but usually ends the session; however that is typically good because I'm usually worn out by then. Sounds like you know what I mean.

    I've also had this happen when using a massager on my perenium, and also once when just pressing on the perenium sweet spot for quite some time (an hour or so).

    What was your experience like? Any others out there with this experience? Did I explain clearly enough what I mean?

    As for names...not sure. How about the 'Oh My G**!'?
  • Edit
    Posts: 0
    How about the "Super O with sauce," Wet Super O or Super Juicy O?
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    :D LOL Super Juicy O is pretty good!!
  • musicman
    Posts: 47
    OH!!, just curious, how do you tell between all the different fluids? You and others have mentioned prostate and then full-on cum and someone else has mentioned another type of fluid I think (can't remember the body part) or maybe they were just mentioning the feeling they were getting from that particular internal part. Is prostate fluid clear like pre-cum? Oh, and sorry to get of topic, but you mentioned in my post about maybe manually stimulating my husbands prostate, what exactly would I be feeling for? (I only ask here because I don't know if you'll come back to my post or not, but I figure you'll go back to your own post. :wink: )

    Thanks for any info you can give.

    mm's wife
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    musicmans wife,

    Check out my response to ciscoompa's thread - http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/anyone-able-cum-without-orgasm-11841/#post69494 , it deals with locating the prostate gland and massage.
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    musicman said:

    OH!!, just curious, how do you tell between all the different fluids? You and others have mentioned prostate and then full-on cum and someone else has mentioned another type of fluid I think (can't remember the body part) or maybe they were just mentioning the feeling they were getting from that particular internal part. Is prostate fluid clear like pre-cum? Oh, and sorry to get of topic, but you mentioned in my post about maybe manually stimulating my husbands prostate, what exactly would I be feeling for? (I only ask here because I don't know if you'll come back to my post or not, but I figure you'll go back to your own post. :wink: )

    Thanks for any info you can give.

    mm's wife



    Hi MM's Wife,

    I briefly discussed massages the prostate back in your thread since your last visit. As for fluids, the way I understand it.

    Cauper's gland is clear and fairly thin, but cohesive. It will drip and can hand in long beads / threads if allowed as it is somewhat cohesive. This is generally described as pre cum.

    Of course semen which we ejaculate is comprised of prostate and caupers and I believe another small gland or two. As you know it is milky white, thicker, and tackier.

    Much as I can tell prostate fluid is a bit of a cross between the two. It is somewhat clear but may have stuff and a bit of color to it. It is still somewhat thin like caupers I believe. When I ejaculate hands free with or without the Aneros this is what I get but it sometimes seems to have a touch of semen in it too. I may get several tablespoons of it, maybe a bit more.

    As far as taste you will have to discover that on your own. :twisted: :)
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    Cowper's gland fluid is pure, clear, sumptuously smooth, and deliciously sweet on the lips and tongue. It is the most heavenly lubricant that can be applied to any part of your own or spouse's body from pubic bone to forehead, especially nipples. And it just keeps on flowing for hours on end of sheer bliss. Indeed, we are wonderfully made.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    OH!!,

    I don't think that there is any misconception here or in the Wiki on this topic. Although it's far from common, several men have reported ejaculatory orgasms from the use of the Aneros alone. What you appear to be describing is what is known around here as a "hands-free orgasm". A traditional ejaculatory orgasm that is brought about by methods other than penile stimulation. This can include; anal stimulation, prostate stimulation, perineal stimulation, nipple stimulation (and virtually any other stimulation that is not penile stimulation) in any combination thereof. Judging from my 6 years in and around this forum, I can tell you that true "hands-free orgasms" are fairly rare. It should be said that there have been those that have used indirect penile stimulation, as afforded by the scrotal stretch and claimed that the resulting orgasms were a "hands-free" events. I do not ascribe to this view. Having had only one of these myself in all of these years, and having corresponded with the few guys in this forum that have had them as well, I can tell that "hands-free" is another matter entirely.

    My experience occurred after a long string of Super O's in a protracted session which were brought about by nipple and perineal massage. After a while I seemed to be noticing an incredibly strong anal desire. This sensation grew stronger and stronger and in short order I became very erect from it as well. In this case I looked for the nearest toy to answer the call. It happened to be a small dildo that I had forgotten about that was in my night stand. I lubed it and in the process of insertion this urge that I had been having started peaking...and even before the dil was completely inserted I felt like I was going to ejaculate. Within two thrusts....I did ejaculate! No penile stimulation whatsoever. It was so completely different because in this instance anal and to a certain extent prostate arousal combined in an unusual way fast-tracking me down the ejaculatory pathway. Again the idea here is that penile arousal existed but was being fueled not by any direct or indirect penile stimulation, but by sensations brought about by anal and prostate stimulation.

    MMwife,

    With respect to the components of semen. Seminal vesicle fluid makes up the majority (60-70%). It is viscous with a very slight yellow tinge. Prostate fluid gives semen its milky color and comprises around 30% of the mixture. Cowper's fluid is clear, slightly viscous and makes up around 5% (it is thought to be homologous to vaginal lubrication in women). Sperm is also 5%. Each of these secretions have components in them that serve different functions related to transportation, nutrition and buffering the pH of the acidic vaginal environment for sperm.

    BF Mayfield
  • How about this idea that some men can have super o-'s on demand?
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260
    [quote=B Mayfield]OH!!,

    I don't think that there is any misconception here or in the Wiki on this topic. Although it's far from common, several men have reported ejaculatory orgasms from the use of the Aneros alone. What you appear to be describing is what is known around here as a "hands-free orgasm". A traditional ejaculatory orgasm that is brought about by methods other than penile stimulation. This can include; anal stimulation, prostate stimulation, perineal stimulation, nipple stimulation (and virtually any other stimulation that is not penile stimulation) in any combination thereof. Judging from my 6 years in and around this forum, I can tell you that true "hands-free orgasms" are fairly rare.

    Yep, that's what I've been having occasionally. The last time was the other day during just nipple massage and focusing on the prostate. The first time it happened to me was a few years ago when I used a vibrator on just my perenium/anal area. Since I've learned to Super O - (thanks to tips from you and others) it occasionally happens with an Aneros, but I believe so far only the MGX. I only own the MGX and Helix. I've also had it happen just by pressing the perenium over a long period of time while lying on my side in bed. I can't remember but possibly it happened pressing on the kundalini pressure point. Oh, yeah I know it happened one time with the Aneros while pressing on the Kundalini spot. I also got it to happen once from just sitting and focusing on orgasms and contracting my sphincter / prostate. I don't recommend that last method as the long term contractions, pressure, and sitting caused a temporary hemorroid type thrombosis that later went away. I later learned how to just feel the inner sensations (heartbeat, etc) of the prostate and orgasm that way without having to pressure the rectal opening. But yeah, it's great! I keep getting more adept at these different orgasms. It's cool.

    I wasn't aware others had these, but since I posted I've seen comments here and elsewhere of others having something similar. I didn't realize it was a full normal ejaculation. I was thinking it was perhaps just prostate fluid...but as I recall it was mostly (according to your description) seminal vesicle fluid with a bit of prostate (milky) mixed in. There was a lot of it. More than I would usually ejaculate by hand (for instance). If true, that explains the refraction period / feeling I had. Perhaps a slightly different mix of components is released - similar to when women ejaculate? I had hoped this was primarily prostate fluid, because I'd like to empty it. Otherwise for prostate health wouldn't it be best if we occasionally, perhaps at least once a week, ejaculated normally by hand, or through normal sex? Seems it is important to keep the prostate emptied in order to avoid future health problems. What say ye?

    [quote=B Mayfield]My experience occurred after a long string of Super O's in a protracted session which were brought about by nipple and perineal massage. After a while I seemed to be noticing an incredibly strong anal desire. This sensation grew stronger and stronger and in short order I became very erect from it as well.

    Yep, that's how it typically starts to feel. The normal orgasms and super O's build and suddenly it's like you are on automatic - pretty much involuntary. It's a good way to end a very long session because in the end you do get that final release and refraction that tells you to stop.
  • OH!!
    Posts: 260

    How about this idea that some men can have super o-'s on demand?



    I can have them, but not so much 'on demand'. It still typically takes some time to build up intensity enough to get to that level.

    However I will say that when my brain is saturated with fish oil, dark chocolate and a host of other stuff and is primed to orgasm it will just start. I've been having this happen sometimes when I am sleeping. It happened last night some. It's actually really nice. I will wake up and find that I am having orgasms (not the ejaculation type). The problem is it will keep you up and you don't get much sleep. It's rough, when the sun starts coming up while you are experiencing waves of orgasms and then you realize you aren't sleeping. Typically if I finish and then try and sleep it is really poor quality. It's hard to shut those sensations off. A typical male hand ejaculation will help, but still not completely stop it in short term.

    Also, after having a long Aneros session...a few hours such as today. Hours after I finished some super O's today with the Aneros out I still continued to have waves of pleasure and mini O's. They've mostly ceased now, but right now just thinking about them I can slowly start to bring some back.

    I think a lot of it may be the fish oil and dark chocolate. For Zane, that is when it started happening to her by accident. I have an advantage here because in following Dr Sears Zone diet I was already taking highly concentrated / highly pure fish oil. Zane mentions it likely has something to do with the Seratonin and Dopamine levels in the brain. That's why sometimes when you have sex or masturbate (even the classical way) the sensations may be much more intense and enjoyable. If you really stoke your brain up with this stuff...it tries to do it on it's own. It also helps (as a guy) to not ejaculate for awhile (in the classical sense). I suppose this builds up desire and testosterone level, etc.

    Sorry for the book. :lol:

    I take about 6 to 7 GNC Double Strength Fish Body Oil, Dove 71% Cacao dark chocolate, Vit e, vit c, calcium, magnesium, zinc, tribulus, ginko biloba, panax ginseng, and Super Mira Forte.

    Give those a shot for awhile and see what you get. Not sure how long it takes to build up. Zane believes it may take a month on the fish oil I believe for some women - so men may be the same, but often results happen much quicker.