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technique/motion question
  • agentgrey
    Posts: 21
    Hi all. Long time lurker, first time poster... Anyway, I've got a few questions for some of the pros (sorry for the rambling).

    I've been using a regular Aneros off-and-on for a few months now, and I don't have any problems getting to the point where my non-erect penis is twitching steadily and I feel a strong pressure from the Aneros - basically in the area of the PC muscle. I have often gotten to a point where I feel like I'm on the edge of "something," but somehow I don't go beyond that point. My technique was as follows: on my back with knees bent, I would hold a moderate contraction and let the twitching come on its own. I think of the contraction as being a balance between pushing out with one muscle and pulling in with the other (anal vs rectal?), as well as contracting the PC muscle.

    A few weeks ago my new Helix arrived, and I'm also hearing good things about this "do nothing" method. So I've been changing different parts of my technique and I'm wondering if someone could clarify a few things for me.

    1. How much should the Aneros move (in the in-and-out direction)? After the Aneros has been drawn inside, there isn't much further motion. When I hold a contraction, I feel pressure from the Aneros but I don't get the sensation that it's "sliding" around. Even with a very slight contraction, it feels like the Aneros can't really "move" so much as sit there and be pressed against my muscles/prostate/etc.

    2. To put #1 another way, when I try to "do nothing" sometimes I relax the muscles and there is a strong spasm/clenching reaction. Now there is more of a feeling of Aneros motion that accompanies these stronger muscle contractions. However, I tend to believe (based on what I've read) that these violent contractions (even if they are involuntary) are not the best technique. If you just sit and clench your PC and anal muscles at the rate of about 1-2 per second -- these are the contractions I'm talking about.

    I pre-lube with an eye-dropper and apply some Maximus (a water-based gel lube) to the Aneros, so I don't think it's a question of lubrication (although I'm going to try extra lube just in case). I'm just not sure what sort of muscle movements to expect, and so I don't know what to encourage or avoid.

    Any advice? Thanks to all the other posters - I wouldn't have gotten this far without this forum.

    -agent_grey
  • biddlema
    Posts: 30
    Agent_Gray

    Many of the most intense feelings (I have) occur when the Aneros doesn't even feel like its moving at all. The movement you are seeking is very small and involuntary. I believe that these movements would be very hard to detect externally by someone watching.

    Try not to clench down. The exercises discussed in this forum and in the directions are supposed to help you get used to having Aneros inserted, and help you relax. Large forced movements are only used to prepare! Unfortunately, there is no "one way" to achieve the involuntary small movements.

    Sometimes I almost feel like I'm trying to push Aneros out (slightly), to keep him from going deeper into me. When I do, it seems to actually draw him in more, in a different way, pressing harder against my perineum and twitching more vigorously against my prostate.

    "Mayfield" gives excellent advice in many of his posts. Read some of them and try some of the techniques his describes.

    I wish I could be more help!

    You can e-mail me if you want at [email]iwoodluv22@yahoo.com[/email]

    Good Luck!

    Woody
  • agentgrey
    Posts: 21
    biddlema,

    Thanks for the quick reply. I can assure you that I have read most of the posts on this forum, particularly B Mayfield's, and is through their guidance that I've been able to get to the point where I have the small twitches in my penis and PC muscle, the pounding heart, strong breathing, and the feeling that I'm *close* to something without being able to get through to the next level of sensation.

    My question was more about the nature of the "involuntaries" -- whether they're small twitches in the penis and prostate area, or larger spasms involving more of the anal muscles. I take it from your response that they are small twitches. This is what I had always thought, but when I try the "do-nothing" technique described in some recent posts I end up with larger spasms. Other users have described the motion of the aneros near super-O as more like a jack-hammer driving in and out, which sounds very different from small twitching. So, I'd like to know whether other people who recommend the "do-nothing" approach experience these large spasms or the small twitches (or both).

    Thanks again to everyone who shares their experiences and advice!

    -agent_grey
  • Roger
    Posts: 23
    Involuntary contractions can be quite strong, at least for me. At the heart of the 'do nothing' method is to let your body do what it wants to without interfereing. Don't initiate any contractions and don't prevent them either. When I am getting close to a Super-O with the Aneros, it gets pulled very powerfully into my rectum and I often have involuntaries that feel like it is really 'pounding' into me. Of course it really isn't, but they are strong contractions. The key, for me, to the whole process, is simply to concentrate on the internal feelings and let everything else just happen. This can be difficult when the feeling get particularly strong and the contractions powerful because these are unusual feelings and can be overwhelming, and maybe a bit scary, at first. Just go with it. Maybe you'll have a Super-O in a given session, and maybe you won't, but it will surely be a lot of fun.

    Good luck and Enjoy!

  • Originally Posted By: agentgrey
    biddlema,

    My question was more about the nature of the \"involuntaries\" -- whether they're small twitches in the penis and prostate area, or larger spasms involving more of the anal muscles. I take it from your response that they are small twitches. This is what I had always thought, but when I try the \"do-nothing\" technique described in some recent posts I end up with larger spasms. Other users have described the motion of the aneros near super-O as more like a jack-hammer driving in and out, which sounds very different from small twitching. So, I'd like to know whether other people who recommend the \"do-nothing\" approach experience these large spasms or the small twitches (or both).

    Thanks again to everyone who shares their experiences and advice!

    -agent_grey


    Hi,

    This is Matt, I was the one who originated the "Do Nothing" technique and described it. My experience has been that ,yes, I experience rather strong contractions ... which are VERY pleasureable.

    I want to clarify that I only use this technique when I go to bed ... and fall asleep. So I really don't know for sure the wide range of contractions that may be taking place. What happens is that approximately 2 hours after I fall asleep with my modified MGX inserted, I awake somewhere into the Super O process. Sometimes at the start or the middle, never the end. I have noticed that the abutement tab is DEEPLY embedded at this time ......... and attribute this to the success of the technique FOR ME. I have not been able awake to get the tab embedded to the depth that works for me. I think lying on my back is the main contributing reason for the deeply imbedded tab.

    Yesterday I spent over 3 hours with the Helix, watching porn. I did not come close to a Super O, but had about 5 traditional (manual) climaxes, since after one hour I couldn't stand it any more. The Helix had made my penis very sensitive and alive ... and I just could not be satisifed.

    Like a nut, 4 hours later I decided to go to bed with the Modified MGX inserted. Around 2 hours later, I awoke to the start of a small Super O and had a great several hours "working it" (NO penis stimulation). This was not a Cosmic Super O session, but in terms of sensations and pleasure was way, way above the traditional climaxes. Also, there was that "warm and cozy, All is well with the world" feeling throughout.

    That's how the technique works for me. Have fun !

    Matt
  • agentgrey
    Posts: 21
    I had a long session (over 3 hours) last night because I made some progress! I had been thinking about the small twitches I usually get in the penis/PC region, and about not contracting so much with the anal muscles. Things were going along like normal, nothing too exciting, when I realized that I had to urinate (I usually ignore such feelings, but this time it turned out to be real). I left the Helix in as I went to the toilet, and while I was there I felt all of my muscles relax and just let go. Some air even escaped around the aneros, but it didn't really move.

    When I got back in bed, I concentrated on keeping all of my anal/sphincter muscles relaxed, like I was trying to keep the entire channel open. While I did this, I held an incredibly small contraction in the PC muscle to get the small twitches going. Only now, with my sphincter so relaxed, I felt the twitches *inside* and on the prostate, rather than higher up in the penis itself. It like the aneros was fluttering quickly but with short motions directly on my prostate. Woody's comment that the movements would be hard to see externally was spot-on. The anal muscles would begin to tense up and I would concentrate on keeping them loose. This combination of lose anal muscles with tiny PC contraction kept the fluttering going and caused a huge erection - felt very tight.

    Well, I think I've only gotten an erection from the aneros's motions once before, so this was a breakthrough for me! I went through a handful of cycles where I'd start the fluttering, get an erection, and just try to ride it out. At that point I'd start to feel stronger contractions around the prostate. No super-O yet, but I'm hopeful for the future. Anyway, I hope this gives other people (particularly those who don't get to the point of having an erection) something to think about.
  • hulahula
    Posts: 212
    Very interesting. I don't think I have ever had more than a half erection when the Aneros (I have the MGX) is inside of me, except, when I stimulated myself manually. Whether the contractions are big or small is interesting, I have experienced both the big and the small fluttery ones, as well as some where my anus feels like it is opening and closing rapidly. I take as a reference point the way my wife seems to act when I have gotten her extremely aroused through a combination of oral stimulation of her clitoris and manually stroking her G spot.
    I find the most intense feelings I get with the Aneros are when the device is moving very little. It is almost like my the aneros is a phonograph needle hooked up to a very loud amplifier- a little movement produces some deafening sound.