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Super O and mj
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 177
    Why is it that some men can achieve a Super O without the aid of mj while others often need it to Super O even after they've rewired?

    I have 2 theories at the moment:


    1)Men who have used mj in the past before they started using the Aneros, even if it's years ago have changed their body's chemistry such that they'll always need mj to achieve certain states that, had they never used, would have occured naturally.
    Hence, the only way to access the state conducive to a Super O will be to take mj to achieve it.
    I'd like to know if they're are people that used mj before they started the Aneros but didn't use mj to rewire and achieve their first Super O. Or if there are people like me, who have used mj in the past and weren't using when they started Aneros and needed mj to achieve their rewiring, first super o.
    And of course the people that have never used mj, still aren't using and have still not Super O'dIF my first theory is wrong that mj doesn't create a lifelong dependency coz it hasn't permanently changed your brain....

    2)My other theory is: that people who have success without mj(irrespective if they've regularly used mj in the past)already have a more feminine character than the men that can't achieve Super O's without mj. Or to say it another way, that more masculine men need mj(a female drug IMO) to open up their feminine side.
    So I was interested in feedback from members to see if there's anything to that claim
    It's hard to generalize starting from your own experience but it made sense to me coz I'd describe myself as masculine and I definitely seem to need it to open up my feminine side

    Perhaps I'm just looking for justification for my occasional use of mj to have Super Os.
    And it's not just with the Aneros with all anal toys, I can't get the full benefit without using mj.

    Last night for example. I just got my Njoy wand in a few days ago, I had tried it out completely sober, secretly hoping for gushing, and Super O type sensations. And despite it being very pleasurable the first time I tried it, I never got close to anything like a Super O but left me instead with a pleasurable sensation an itch that needed to be satisfied.

    So yesterday I got some mj started off with the Eupho, had an amazing ride but still wasn't getting the real Super O experience.
    Until I switched to the pure wand....it was of the same intensity as the Super Os I got with the Aneros in the very beginning. Probe is an apt description for it. It's part control(which you like to have on the man-side), using the probe to explore the different areas of your anal cavity, and part surrender like the handsfree Aneros prostate massager. I hate to say this, because I really love Aneros for the experience it has already brought me, but the Njoy is way better! My next toy will definitely be something of theirs. I've only slept 3 hours and have been cumming hard ever since I inserted the probe. So from 22:00 to 2:00 and then continuing cumming hard but masturbating to 4:00 and then from 7:00 till now whenever I focus on the area.
    No squirting but if there's a device that can do it, it's definitely Njoy!
    I'm single now, but knowing what I know now it's also the ultimate couples' toy. It's known to give women squirting gspot orgasms and men Super Os(the type that you can fuck indefinitely until you choose to ejaculate)

    So, a really great experience all in all, I'm still on a high, I just wish I wasn't dependent on mj for this kind of experience, still,mj made the difference. Go from regretting spending €90 to thinking it the best toy I've ever bought in 24 hours. Having the feel of warm steel against the sensitive areas while probing  your anal cavity  also make it a very novel and delicious experience
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    I have inner feminine quality's. I have never utilised 420 and have achieved the super-O while in a state of hypnagogia. I have always secretly thought that many men here are in denial about their femininity and/or sexuality.
  • Theme_GasmTheme_Gasm
    Posts: 776
    I'm bi already, so staying in touch with both my masculine and feminine sides is a regular part of living for me! I had my first Super O within 60 days of starting Aneros, in March 2013. I've never smoked mj, but I've been very close to trying it for the first time. Don't need mj to get incredible prostate orgasms, but often wonder if they would be any better with it!

    TG
  • AzaAza
    Posts: 4
    Straight and not feminine at all, used MJ since late teens (25 years), still use when I can get (ie.. use 1-2x a week for 6 months whilst I have some, then run out, and have none for "many" months).

    Can achieve Super O with, or without, and get mini-O's with.. or without.

    Super O is a mind state, so I find MJ makes it happen faster/longer/deeper, but that doesnt stop me from knowing I can have a super O without, so I do & can, and erotic stimulation does just as much for me as MJ.

    As with most mind states, if you believe it isnt possible, then it isnt.. so for those who think they cannot Super O without MJ, then your belief came true.
  • mdadmdad
    Posts: 139
    Haha I'm such a sissy. I had no idea what MJ was for half this thread. I've never used it. But I told my wife that the moment they legalize it in my state (and I have no doubt they will in the next decade), I'm totally going to do it to get the monkey off my back. Carry on...
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,304
    To me the answer is simple:  weed makes me horny and sensuous.  In my case that often translates to an ascendancy of my female sexuality.   But that is also true in regular sessions, but to a lesser extent.  

    I don't think it has to do with what turns you on;  just that, for me, anyway, weed makes me more turned on and open to the experience.

    darwin
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,423
    Ehm said:

    1) Men who have used mj in the past before they started using the Aneros, even if it's years ago have changed their body's chemistry such that they'll always need mj to achieve certain states that, had they never used, would have occured naturally.
    Hence, the only way to access the state conducive to a Super O will be to take mj to achieve it.
    I'd like to know if they're are people that used mj before they started the Aneros but didn't use mj to rewire and achieve their first Super O. Or if there are people like me, who have used mj in the past and weren't using when they started Aneros and needed mj to achieve their rewiring, first super o.

    IMHO, this theory is FALSE, I was a recreational marijuana user for a number of years in my youth (stopped using for recreational use more than 20 yrs. ago). I came across the Aneros devices 7 yrs. ago and had my first Super-O less than two months into practice without the aid of marijuana.
    Ehm said:

    2) My other theory is: that people who have success without mj (irrespective if they've regularly used mj in the past) already have a more feminine character than the men that can't achieve Super O's without mj. Or to say it another way, that more masculine men need mj (a female drug IMO) to open up their feminine side.

    IMHO, this is also FALSE. I'm not even sure you can adequately define what "...more masculine men..." are, much less what constitutes the "...feminine side." IMHO, successful Aneros use is more about accessing the totality of your sensual existence (your Yin-Yang balance YinYang)
    than it is about gender role playing. I don't see the logic in labeling marijuana "a female drug", drugs have no gender, they are simply chemical compounds which have an effect on biological organisms. One can debate attributes of male-female psychology 'till the sunrises and the 'nature vs. nurture' influence ad nauseam without settling anything. I suspect it is just as difficult for some gay and bi-sexual men to achieve Super-O's as it is for strait men regardless of one's marijuana experience.
    Ehm said:

    I'd describe myself as masculine and I definitely seem to need it to open up my feminine side. ...I can't get the full benefit without using mj.

    Belief systems are powerful concepts which influence our behavior. What you believe to be true becomes true in your reality. Your reality is nothing more than the mental conglomeration of your perceptions of the world around you. Alter your perceptions and your reality is changed along with it.

    "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything.
    What we think, we become."

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  • PspotsquirterPspotsquirter
    Posts: 467
    I have smoked weed, but never during a session. I don't see the need for it, when an Aneros is involved. I squirted (male equivalent to female ejaculation) for the first time, with a glass toy that was angled to hit a woman's G-spot. After the initial squirt, the glass no longer worked for me. The next time I was able to squirt was about 1.5 years later. I purchased an Njoy Pure Wand, and was able to squirt, by using the larger end. I then went on to purchase the entire Njoy line, sans the smallest Pure Plug. A woman will get a better G-spot orgasm from a Perfect 11, than she will from the Pure Wand or the Fun Wand.

    Prior to purchasing my Progasm Classic, I had been using the Njoy Pfun Plug. It never worked for me, until
    I used the Progasm Classic. I had massive Os at the beginning of my first session (Progasm), and still have them to this very day! I have gone on to purchase a Progasm Jr, a Eupho Classic, and a Maximus Classic (not picked it up from the post yet). I got exquisite results from Jr, within 15 minutes of its trial run; while the Eupho Classic took about an hour to get good results, on its maiden voyage. I'm sure the Maximus will be just as good!

    I can honestly say I would never been able to Super O, had I not started using Aneros. Squirting and Super O-ing are two different and separate beasts. Prior to Aneros, I would squirt, but not have any tremors. It was a release of fluid, but not a release of energy. It was an incomplete feeling. I would ALWAYS end the pre Aneros sessions with a hand job. Once I got rewired from the Aneros, the experience became more fluid, as I did not have the urge to beat off, because the energy was properly dissipated. Prior to Aneros I very seldom felt energy flow through my Chakras. Now when I use my Njoy stuff, I have tremors, waves, Super Os, squirting, etc. That is a direct result of my rewiring.

    I can mediate and achieve the same feeling, that one gets from smoking weed. The mind is all! I caught flack in a previous thread for being anti-weed and judgmental. Hell! Smoke if you want. It's not that serious. So I would like to apologize to @Gilman, or any other weed asses I may have UNINTENTIONALLY offended.
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 177
    Thanks for all the comments. It's good to know I was wrong with both theories, at least the first one, the second one...I'm not so sure:)
    Perhaps if I took more time when sober eventually the Super Os would come, were it not that I'm very active and time obsessed , because the outcome is unclear and it takes so much time, I tend to do the ksmo more regularly for dry orgasms coz I have more immediate results, takes less time and don't have to shoot lube up my ass everytime I use it.
    And it's not that I don't believe I can have Super Os without it, it's just been my experience up until now, sometimes I get very close(especially after massaging my balls and the male deer exercise),but what takes me 1-2 hours sober I'm instantly in using mj and then the heightened sensations do the rest.
    When on mj I'm lazy and could lie cumming all night long,  sober I just don't have(make) the time.
    But maybe now with the wand I can do an hour with the Aneros and see if the Njoy can take me into Super O territory sober. Even if it did, I doubt if it could compare to the session I had last night. The body high the mj produces keeps you in Super O territory long after the session

    @pspotsquirter:  I was in two minds about how to approach trying to squirt, I read to drink plenty of fluids beforehand and that it's almost the same as with peeing. When I see squirting women in porn movies they seem to activate it by quick movements against their gspot, so I thought it would be the same with men. But you say to hold the wand against the prostate with firm pressure?
    At times I really thought I was squirting and imagining I was a woman and my anus a vagina, but although it felt like I was peeing/squirting when my eyes were closed with my eyes open all I could see was copious amounts of precum.
    How do you achieve pee-mode while simultaneously being in Super O mode?
  • PspotsquirterPspotsquirter
    Posts: 467
    @Ehm
    I always start my sessions with an empty bladder. Squirting comes after the Super O. I only squirt when my penis is flaccid.
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    @Ehm Actually only a very very small portion of male squirt emission is pee. The majority of it is cowpers gland fluid.

    https://www.exotic-erotics.com/forums/index.php?topic=380.15

    (2nd comment down on that page has good info)
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 177
    @Trei: I know squirting isn't actually peeing but I read somewhere it's the same type of 'pushing out' and it uses the same duct as peeing does
    @pspot: so how do you transition to squirting mode? Is there anything you do differently to stimulate the prostate or do you visualise to get yourself in squirting mode?
    I tried to visualise the pushing out motion that I do when peeing but in Super O mode, even if I wanted to pee before that, the urge disappears. And the clamping down that happens automatically while orgasming would make it impossible to pee even if I wanted to
  • PspotsquirterPspotsquirter
    Posts: 467
    @Ehm
    I don't visualize anything. There is no transition involved, as it is a very organic and a smooth process, for me. I can squirt with an Aneros inserted. I can squirt by just doing Kegels. If I'm using the Pure Wand (larger end) or Mr. Swirly Dildo, I apply firm pressure on my prostate. With the Aneros, I just insert it and wait 5-10 minutes.
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 177
    How do you squirt doing kegels?
    slow/fast contractions?focussing on the kegel/reverse kegel?
    And with the wand you hold it on the prostate? coz I tend to rock back and forth
  • PspotsquirterPspotsquirter
    Posts: 467
    @Ehm
    I suppose being able to squirt from Kegels is part of my rewiring. I can squirt using fast or slow contractions. I do not employ reverse Kegels when I squirt, nor do I focus on anything.
  • inhopeinhope
    Posts: 1,255
    make a vid of it pspotsquirter :-)
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 177
    @Pspot: That's quite a unique gift you've got, I don't think I've ever seen man or woman who could squirt without a dildo of some sort