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New Forum Format
  • I used to be able to go directly to the latest post and work back from there.  Can't figure out how to do it on the new Forum.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Big Jimbo,

    If you click on the thread title it should take you to the latest post.



    BF Mayfield
  • Badger
    Posts: 647

    I haven’t been visiting here for several weeks, due to a bulging disk (sacrum), and sitting in my computer chair is a contributor to my ailments.  And because of that, I haven’t felt like trying anything with my Aneros devices, or even plain masturbation.


    Anyway, I digress.  This is the first day I’ve been back here, and it lists practically all threads as new, and goes to the very first post, instead of the first post since I last visited.  I can click on the Thread Title, the Name of the last poster to the thread, and the Category Title, but only Thread Title gets me to the post.  Does it have something to do with not being here for a while, or something else?


    While we're talking about the New Forum Format, how come every time I refresh or open a thread or go to the next page in a thread, I get the annoying Secure Content notice.  How do I permanently eliminate it?  Also, when I try to post, it locks up.

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Badger - As far as secure content goes... The whole Aneros forum is encrypted now. And some browsers notify you when you are entering or leaving an encrypted web page. Usually there is an option right on the notice to not show the notice again. What Internet Browser software and version are you using?
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 569
    The unencrypted bits are the links it draws in, like the Facebook "like" button.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647

    IE9; and if I try to import/paste from Word, the exclamation points screw up, and every time I try to edit the post to correct the problem, the danged thing locks up with occasionally a notice that something is running, causing a loop lock of sorts.  Then I get a notice that the page is locking up and unresponsive, and needs to be restarted and recovered.


    Any clues? (Sorry if there are any screwups; I'm not going to edit any goofs)

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Badger - I'd try a different Internet browser. Good options in my mind would be Firefox or Chrome.

    Part of the problem with copying and pasting from Word into the "Write Comment" box here is that this forum software picks up the formatting from Word. I have a somewhat similar problem pasting from LibreOffice. Not lockups like you get, but the format is not correct. The only way I've figured to get around it is to paste from the word processor into a simple text editor. For you that would be "Notepad". And then from there, copy from the simple text editor into the "Write Comment" box. That eliminates any special formatting that the word processor somehow includes in when copying from it.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    I have security concerns with Chrome, not to mention some issues with Google bias-editing search responses.
  • There is a security setting in IE that disables the prompt about content (of mixed security levels). Disable or Enable and the prompt will be gone. Choose wisely however.


    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee264315(v=vs.85).aspx

  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    I've been using Mozilla, Firefox (with a Mac) and it seems to be working flawlessly.   It's possible that your issue with the "most recent posts" is related to your browser as well.  Check it out. 

    BF Mayfield
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 569
    Chrome says "This page has insecure content", and that turns out to be the Facebook "Like" button at the top of a thread.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Twlltin,

    Thank you for that nugget of wisdom in your last post! And now let me put the icing on the cake for those of you that don't know about the issues with the Facebook like button on other web pages.

    http://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/21386-Facebook-Like-Button--Privacy-Violation--Security-Risk.html

    http://www.itproportal.com/2010/11/30/facebooks-button-tracking-you/

    http://www.geek.com/articles/news/facebook-like-button-tracks-you-even-if-you-dont-click-20110519/


    @CT  -  I'd like to strongly suggest that having the Facebook like button on the Aneros forums is a bad idea and really goes against the principles of privacy that most users here appreciate and probably a lot of them wouldn't participate if they knew this sort of thing is going on.
  • isvara
    Posts: 570
    That Facebook button is really scary. I don't like being tracked against my will. I would be grateful if it could be removed. Then I'll feel much safer coming to this site.
  • What Facebook button?  I don't see  Facebook button on my screens.
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 569
    By default Chrome blocks it, putting a little shield in the address bar.
  • XilehXileh
    Posts: 353
    I was bit by that little button. On a tablet, it's pretty easy to launch things by accident. I really didn't like sharing this with my church friends...

    Xileh
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Thanks for the Ghostery link Pareidolia. I wasn't aware of that partocular Add-on for Firefox. I had already just made a custom filter and broadly blocked Facebook.com* in Adblock Plus Add-on. But Ghostery seems a good deal more elegant in it's solution.:)
  • not complaining as I appreciate the site and the generosity of HIH for maintaining it.  I find that it is a little clunky compared to the old one.  I undertand and accept the need for the additional bells and whistles on it.  It just makes it harder for me to use.  i will continue to use it though.


     


    Again ....... not compaining ...just relating my experience.


     


    Bigguy

  • The new forum looks great and seems to work well but I am having trouble with emotions section. (the smilies)
    Not really important I know but It does really stupid stuff, never the same problem. One thing that seems to be constant is you can only use one smilie the next ones dont work they just come up as text.
    I am using google chrome.
    Anyone else having trouble?
  • CTCT
    Posts: 69
    Hey Guys, I had the facebook like removed.  Thanks for the feedback!  

    We always encourage any feedback or ideas you guys have to help improve the community.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Thank you CT! :)
  • isvara
    Posts: 570
    Thank you CT, I feel much happier.
  • Thanks! I agree, a Facebook "telescreen" has no place here.

    Cheers...
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Ok, a new problem has come up:

    I just received an e-mail notification for an accepted answer in the forums. And I notice that there is no option in the preferences to disable that. And I also do not have any of the e-mail notification settings check marked. I don't want e-mail notifications from this forum. Is there some other way to disable this that I'm not aware of?
    Thanks
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 707
    Whatever happened to the ability to edit a post?

    Yesterday, I composed a post to a thread, using MS Word and, after copying it into the 'Comment Box', I found that after I had pressed the "Post Comment" button, the formatting had completely changed, making a nonsense of what I had intended. I then found that any attempt to edit the post (including an attempt to delete it entirely), wouldn't work. All the edit function seems to allow is the addition of further text at the end of the post.

    Is this really how it is supposed to work?
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Pommie - I agree that there is problems with formatting when typing in a word processor and copy pasting into the write comment box here. I have the same problem doing so in LibreOffice. But it doesn't come out as nonsense. It just squeezes the maximum word width to something narrower and and spaces the paragraphs further apart.

    There is two ways to get around this. You can copy paste from your word processor into a simple text editor (If you're using windows operating systems, the program to use would be Notepad), and then select all text and copy paste into the write comment box here. This removes all the special formatting that word processors add and this forum software seems to interpret in odd ways. The other way is to just type in the write comment box. This new forum software auto saves your drafts as you type. And if you abandon a draft before posting it, it gets placed in the "Drafts" tab near the top of the main forum page when you log in. For some reason the tabs do not show when viewing a thread.

    As far as editing a post, I have not experienced your problem. I have been able to edit whatever is in the post. But I have noticed that the forum software only gives you fifteen minutes to do so from when you post. Perhaps after the fifteen minutes are up, you can only add to the post?
  • After the 15mins, thats it you can not edit or add as I understand it. It maybe different if you started the discussion as there is a option box next to each discussion title which if you started the discussion comes up with the word edit if you point at it.
  • Well I just tied the edit box that I was talking about. All it does is crash the page! I am using Goggle Chrome and I get a Bonk page something went wrong.................:(
  • Badger
    Posts: 647

    Also, how do you quote a post any more?  I don't see that button.

    On the positive side, I no longer get the annoying tab on the bottom informing me of unsecure items on this page, and I can type here without it getting a herky-jerky.

  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 707
    Re: mine of September 15th, I made sure that all my attempts at making edits were within the 15 minute time limit.
    Most disturbing was the fact that, having pushed the "Post Comment" button, I was unable to change anything and couldn't delete all or any part of my post.
    The lesson for me seems to be not to push the "Post Comment" button until you are entirely satisfied with what you have written and the idea of copying and pasting from a word processor has just become too difficult. Seems to rule out longer well-considered posts!
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Badger - The quote button/feature wasn't working and displaying correctly with the new forum software. So they probably just removed the button until it can be figured out. I know, a big disappointment. It was one of my favorite features in this forum to. In the mean time, people have been quoting by changing the color and style of the text of the quote.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Personal or "not so Personal" messaging:

    Perhaps it's a matter of age but my Forum experience is degraded by a PM system that advertises it's protocol as, 'Post and Comment' rather than 'Send and Reply'    I also find "Add" rather than "Forward" rather jarring to my sensibilities.   I have no clue how public a personal conversation might become as people get added to what was initially intended as a personal communication.

    Maybe I went through the Looking Glass one too many times.   :lol:



  • There used to be a button at the top with a drop down menu where it was possible to choose the index to all members.  How is that done now?  Also, can't figure out where to go to change my password.
  • @
    paulsp@trains.zzn.com
    Click on paulsp@trains.zzn.com at the top for your password, dont know about the other.
  • Would it be possible to make the forum let you know which discussion and when a user mentions your login name.
    So if I was to put @rook in a post, when the user rook logged on, a list of any new mentions of this user would appear for rook.
    Hope this makes sense.


    p.s. Hope you do not mind using you as an example rook :D
  • Ok so then above idea already does exist and some how it worked in the above post by accident, I dont know why it dosent work other times when I want it to  ~X(  grrrrr!

    EDIT ok i get it you have to type it you cant cut and past:( 
    silly me.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Conversations

    I like a lot of what's been produced and am slowly learning to exploit some of the new features in the Forum.   However, don't plan on my "liking" any post more than another.

    Sorry guys, I'm totally against the "Social Networking" trend in this Forum.    The [twitter/facebook/google+] flavor of the forum seems inappropriate in an environment where anonymity is important.

    Recently, two personal messages (aka conversations), not intended for my eyes, appeared in my "Inbox" then vanished an hour or so after they appeared.

    I've not been into hooking-up via the Aneros Forum and it's ancillary facilities but if I were I would deeply regret having my deepest personal feelings opened to others outside the sphere I had intended.

    I have no clue whether we were victims of a database, programming, or design error or perhaps something as simple as a backup-restore problem.   All strange since one of the "pm's" was only a few hours old while the other was nearly a week old.

    There was another possibility since there was a similarity in addresses that may have caused someone to make a cockpit error.  Perhaps it would be better to return to a Member list and not attempt to automate the addressing of "conversations."

    I endorse the KISS principle.   Let's get back to straightforward personal email and knock off the social linking.        

    "To:"   "From:"   "Cc:"  & "Blind Cc:"   work for me.

    otoh, for public posts in the forum, the links seem appropriate.

    ... rook
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 569
    KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

    I endorse this product and/or service.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Yes! I totally agree with Rook and Twiltin.

    @CT  - Any word yet on disabling e-mail notifications for accepted answers?
  • Badger
    Posts: 647

    Oh, and another thing:  Does anyone else have trouble from time to time with it opening up above the last post you've read, like at the top of the page?  It happens to me at least 20% of the time, and I'm making extra sure I am clicking in the right place.

    What's going on with that?

  • cj187
    Posts: 54
    Hmmm, when  the forum was in the transitionary phase it was accessible on iPhone, this was great for me, however its since not availible.  I can get the desktop site using chrome but cannot reply.  Would love the mobile access back
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @CT - So I've noticed over time with this new forum version that I goto the "General Discussion" area to see what is being talked about and what kind of questions are being asked. I view all posts in that category that are new. And a few times I happen to get back into "All Discussions" again, and notice that there are still new posts. And so today I browsed through the different categories and saw that a lot of these new posts that are in other categories appear like they should be in the "General Discussion" area.

    What's going on here? Is this forum software error? Or user error of not knowing where to post and no one is moderating in terms of moving discussions to appropriate areas?

    This doesn't bode well for the over all health of the forums. Particularly when I realize that I've missed all sorts of discussions and questions I could have responded to. So likely this has confused other users to. In addition to categories of posts not being in appropriate places. 

    I also notice that there is a "Blog" forum category that doesn't seem to have anything to do the Blogs. Huh?

    Am I misunderstanding something, or is there problems that need to be corrected here?
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @CT - Two other things...

    One feature I see missing that was in the old forum software version, is numbering of posts within a thread. I find this important when there is a certain post within a large thread that you need to refer someone to. You need to be able to tell them what post number it is.

    Also, regarding the bandwidth issue I brought up earlier. I believe I've figured out what the cause is. So with this new forum software version, each page communicates back with the forum server every few seconds. Likely to update the who's online section, update whether new messages have come in, save drafts that are being written, and probably other things I'm not aware of. The problem with this is that when you use a lot of tabs in the Internet browser like I do of opening each new post in a separate tab, that means each tab is communicating back with the server. That seems like an unnecessary waste of bandwidth on both ends.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    Most everything is working good now; the only problem I have is this stupid "Request Time Out" notice if I haven't read and deleted the thread within a few minutes.
  • @Love_is   Thanks for mentioning the bandwidth issue.  I tried to describe this to @CT some weeks ago when I opened up a few threads in different tabs, walked away from the computer, and when I came back some time later noticed that a few megabytes had been transferred (unnecessarily in my opinion) in my absence.  I'm one of those unfortunates who gets billed by the byte (or kilobyte in my case) with the Internet service I'm currently using, so every little bit helps.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @aneros44309 - No problem. Thanks for backing me up on this issue with your experience. I think it is an important problem to resolve.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @CT  -  In an effort to make these forums better, and not make your job any more difficult and/or stressful...

    I keep seeing new and continued off topic threads in the "Blogs" and "Aneros Chat Center" categories. And I've noticed that Aneros Support has moved some off topic posts, but only when they occur in the sticky/announcement threads. It's my own humble opinion that continued ignoring of where posts and threads should be placed and started should be observed by the moderators. Otherwise the forums here will end up being a huge mess which will be difficult to browse posts within each category. No point in having categories, if the topics for the categories are not observed and enforced. Might as well just have one big General Discussion area if the time and monetary expense cannot be justified to have an employee moderate the forums.

    Speaking of which, I'm not sure that a Blogs category makes sense. People are expected to post about their blog posts? Why not remove this category and just add an obvious Blogs link in the forums like you have on the main page of aneros.com?

    Just suggestions. Take it all with a grain of salt as needed.
    Thanks. :)
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    And another quick addition...
    Could also use links for "Chat" and "WIKI", in addition to the "Blogs", in the Forums. Thanks. :)
  • I didn't discover until later that if you start a new discussion from the "all discussions" area, by default it is classified as as Blog.

    My carelessness.


  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @tallguy - That's actually good information to know. In my own opinion I'd classify that one as a forum software bug. So no need to apologize. It actually makes it clear to me now why there are so many posts in the Blogs category. The way this forum software works is not necessarily obvious even to people who have plenty of computer skills and experience. It's probably the least intuitive of all the major forum software upgrades I've seen happen here.