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Sex and sexual orientation poll (revamped)
  • View Poll Results: What are you? Voters: 107

    You may not vote on this poll

    Mostly male and straight 46 42.99%

    Mostly female and straight 2 1.87%

    Mostly male and homosexual 23 21.50%

    Mostly female and homosexual 0 0%

    Mostly male and bisexual 26 24.30%

    Mostly female and bisexual 0 0%

    Both male and female and straight in each case 3 2.80%

    Pansexual (just everything) 4 3.74%

    Auto-sexual (don't need anybody) 2 1.87%

    A-sexual (I guess uncommon here, but hey) 1 0.93%

  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    Sexual orientation is a very specific subject on this board. First we share description of intimate sexual experience between men and the occasional women of different orientation, which is quite uncommon I think. But also this is a place where people can often question their orientation or on the contrary feel free not to adhere to any orientation. Not surprising then that it became subject for a poll.

    But the previous poll got me a little lost. I now figured it out I think.

    To me all things, especially sex, are in shades of grey (or any other merrier colors). So, though for convenience I won't write it that way, please read every poll option as starting with the word "mostly".
    (Well i might as well write it, we'll see)

    And for those wondering where these unusual "mostly male" and "mostly female" terms come from, you can read this eye opener (to me at least) :
    (Better read it all)
    http://www.sss-now.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    As for me, I don't feel very differentiated between male and female, so voted both (though obviously my body is easily identifiable as male and I identify mostly as male too). Regarding my orientation I feel straight. But i feel I could have straight sex with a man (as a girl) as well as i usually have straight sex with a girl (as a man), or as I already did (and loved) inverted roles with a girl (her being male and me female).

    For now I feel mostly attracted to girls (to the point of near exclusivity) but I don't feel male exclusively and I like to be treated as a male sometimes and as a female some others. I might also be lesbian in some way and, who knows, maybe there is some gayness hiding somewhere too, but for now dicks don't turn me on as a male, only as a female... Go figure.

    For the sake of simplicity I voted both male and female and straight in each case.

    Also I didn't mention love... Far to complex and unpredictable to include in the subject.
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    I couldn't really include all options so I ruled out the most unlikely. But feel free to precise if you don't feel representated.
  • Perhaps it is a question of English grammar, but it seems to me since the topic is orientation, "mostly" should be placed before straight, homosexual, and bisexual.  It seems to me most people are physically either male or female, the exception being hermaphrodites.  Does male or female indicate body features such as genitalia and size of breats?  It is outside of my experience, but is meant here a man feeling like he has female genitalia, and a woman feeling like she has male genitalia?  Or are feeling masculine or feminine what is meant?   I agree we are probably possibly all being somewhere on a continuum between completely heterosexual or homosexual, orientation (attractions?) consciously or unconsciously, and different places at different times in our lives.  I'm trying to understand what is being sought in this poll.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,488
    Very interesting Canacan, and I agree there seem to be areas of uncertainty of meanings a_u13872.

    I would appreciate both your views and how you might declare in the long-standing Male Sexual Orientation Here Poll: https://www.aneros.com/forum/discussion/9891/male-sexual-orientation-here#Item_85

    You will note that this link opens at the bottom of the second page of this Poll transcript, and you may scroll to the top of this page 2 to see the categories and vote your choice.

    You may want to use the page selector at the bottom of the opening window when you first arrive to view the complete history of comments in this Poll.

    Thanks to you both for reintroducing the topic in a provocative new attempted framework, and you Canacan, for your personal explication of your meanings from your personal experiences perspective.

    all the best semantic and linguistic efforts to capture the beauty and passions of your personal perspectives and stories of your eroticist life all

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • artform
    i remember now that poll, which seems adequate to me, and perhaps the same as what Canacan is asking.

    I find it interesting that those who put themselves as straight-curious almost equal the gays who responded. The straight-bi is somewhat difficult for me to wrap my head around, but it seems they are a bit more than merely curious. I wonder if some of the straight-curious would fit in the straight-bi category, although they probably, or maybe possibl, would not consider acting out homosexually.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,488

    artform

    i remember now that poll, which seems adequate to me, and perhaps the same as what Canacan is asking.

    I find it interesting that those who put themselves as straight-curious almost equal the gays who responded. The straight-bi is somewhat difficult for me to wrap my head around, but it seems they are a bit more than merely curious. I wonder if some of the straight-curious would fit in the straight-bi category, although they probably, or maybe possibl, would not consider acting out homosexually.


    Thanks Aneros_user13872!! I think you are in the right areas generally in your analysis 872!!

    I am an example of what you are exploring for clarification. I voted Straight-Bi when I created that Poll years ago. I had an all out, all in (LOLOL) gay exploratory relationship for over three years and really enjoyed it most of the time!!!
    So, I say that I am functionally bisexual, since I like the physical acts of both sex lives. Some of those sex acts I lost interest in having with another male during that exploration, and the net effect being I feel no need to have male/male sex.
    I am in a 45 years happily hetero marriage, we have raised two wonderful sons, and my wife is aware of my gay youth exploratory.
    I remain platonic friends with my former gay lover, and he visits us a couple of times a year at our home.
    He is like a brother now.
    So, in terms of the Clusters I have identified in my recent Update Report on the original Male Sexual Orientations Poll here, https://www.aneros.com/forum/discussion/comment/63626#Comment_63626
    I am in both the Predominantly Straight, and the Essentially Bisexual clusters as "Straight-Bi" is counted in both naturally.
    Feels like a perfect fit for me personally. :D
    And moreover,
    I am one of the two Anerosians who began the experimenting with males sharing targeted energies at-a-distance several years ago here. We were successful and gradually word, and butt buzz, spread in the Chat room here and at other sites.
    I have made many wonderful male friends here through sharing these energies exchanging/sharing/synching/etc... techniques. I kept experimenting with an expanding circle of friends and we found the pinnacle of those energies possibilities in the traditional male/male sex model virtually doubled: Virtual Mutual Intercourse!!... and its highest peak; 3-way simultaneous VMI!!!
    So, without any physical unions, I enjoy sharing fabulous erotic orgasmic energies with new dear male friends virtually, yet with profound brotherhood bonding.
    I do not physically act out homosexually, and feel no need.
    I bring my new skill to my marriage bed with my wife, and she enjoys each new level we have been ascending, including our Wedding Band position, fingering each other in mutual prostates/Gspots ecstasies for 2 to 4 hours at a time!!! She gave me a World's Greatest Lover plaque last year!! :D

    Does that help? Happy to answer any further questions or comments.

    all the very best soul searching experiential explorations virtually complementing your physical partnering all

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,488
    (bump) to cluster the three on this topic
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    @aneros_user13872

    Sorry for not giving enough background to my somewhat strange wording.
    The idea is we all are androgenous. Of course we also almost all have a genetic markup making us male or female... But even with that we still have characeristics of both sexes and depending on our hormones and other stuff we might be somewhere on a spectrum between male and female... Nobody really ever being fully male or female...

    You can (and should) read this up for better idea of where the idea comes from :
    http://www.sss-now.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    @artforum

    I am aware of the other poll. It actually is the reason I created this one. I think I answered but still couldn't vote... and after a while understood why. I don't even really identify as male... Which probably explains why none of the answers represented me. My genitals are functionnaly reproductive male. But it is easy for people to realise that aswel physicaly as mentaly I am somehow more female than that... Somewhere closer to a middle ground. I am mostly male but probably less than the general population. Me identifying myself as both male and female (in the exact middle on an average of criterias) is a little excessive maybe but not a bad description I think. I am a sexually active straight male who also feels in himself a somewhat dormant straight female.
    Spiritually (for whatever that word means) I feel both male and female and constanly moving between the two. Which I now believe to be normal.

    All in all, this is a question of self identification and tastes.

    I am sure my poll could use a refinement... For now it is all I could come up with... But I am happy I made it an equal genders poll... Otherwise it would have seemed kind of absurd to me.
  • Canacan said:

    @aneros_user13872

    Sorry for not giving enough background to my somewhat strange wording.
    The idea is we all are androgenous. Of course we also almost have a genetic markup making us male or female... But even with that we still have characeristics of both sexes and depending on our hormones and other stuff we might be somewhere on a spectrum between male and female... Nobody really ever being fully male or female...

    You can (and should) read this up for better idea of where the idea comes from :
    http://www.sss-now.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263



    Canacan
    Thank you for your clarification and information on this.  I have often on this forum referred to the idea of us being on a continuum from hetero to homo sexuality, but this is different.  I still have some difficulty recognizing the female in myself, although the feminine, yes, as well as the sexual attraction to and pleasure from both men and women.  It is my understanding that the human fetus starts out with the genitalia undifferentiated, but usually (almost always) develop as male or female.  That is the physical.  I haven't read completely yet (i will need more time) the article you referenced, but perhaps you refer to the Psychi or feelings.  All good food for thought and continuing education.  Thank you for your contributions.
  • didymusdidymus
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  • CanacanCanacan
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    didymus said:

    Can't answer poll as the "mostly" qualifier is confusing



    Yes I understand. Sorry for that. But really shouldn't be a problem. This "mostly" can perfectly be ignored.

    It is a spectrum thing. If you feel "totally" male for example, this is just an extreme case of "mostly" male and goes in the same category. I am sorry this system of poll is by nature a bit limiting and I could not include all the possible (and wanted) subtleties (like on the variations of bisexuality for example). What I did then is trying to cover large areas and add this "mostly" to indicate you should vote for the closest to you without feeling too narrowly labeled.

    And of course you are welcome (and encouraged) to refine your vote with a comment truer to yourself.

    Or you can simply explain in more detail what you think is missing (or improvable or wrong) in this poll. Thanks!
  • The polls on here related to this subject(and maybe others) are only good insofar as they relate to those who replied. None are a random sample, which would be more statistically close to accurate for even those members on this site, much less for the general population.
  • braveneworldbraveneworld
    Posts: 1,100
    Option missing in poll? Anerosexual..... :D
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747

    Option missing in poll? Anerosexual..... :D



    Absolutetly not. It is included in autosexual. ;)

    But I must admit other categories are missing (at least one that I thought so weird I didnt mention). I am sorry, 10 options is very limiting.
  • Canacan said:

    Option missing in poll? Anerosexual..... :D



    Absolutetly not. It is included in autosexual. ;)

    But I must damit other categories are missing (at least one that I thought so weird I didnt mention). I am sorry, 10 options is very limiting.


    Yes, and then there are animals, Would that be bestial?
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    Bump for the benefit of the rare asexual voter.
  • Cearul8Cearul8
    Posts: 10
    WOOT!  I can vote asexual now!  lol!  Thanks for revamping the poll!
  • ltgltg
    Posts: 36
    Don't get the "Mostly Male.. " part of your options. Mostly male implies that sometimes you're not male..?? If that's what you mean then, I don't think it's really an honest poll unless you include a "Male and Straight" category rather than a "Mostly Male and straight" one.

    Guess it's hard to combine two questions ie, Gender and Sexual Preference in one poll where you can only ask one series of questions.
  • CanacanCanacan
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    ltg said:

    Don't get the "Mostly Male.. " part of your options. Mostly male implies that sometimes you're not male..?? If that's what you mean then, I don't think it's really an honest poll unless you include a "Male and Straight" category rather than a "Mostly Male and straight" one.

    Guess it's hard to combine two questions ie, Gender and Sexual Preference in one poll where you can only ask one series of questions.



    Did you read my message?
  • Hmmmm, gender identity. In that regard I agree with Dr. Paul McHugh. Head of psychiatry at John Hopkins university. That we are male or female and to believe opposite shows a disorder of assumption, much like a person suffering from anorexia or bulemia suffers from very similarly assumption disorder. But for them we would not encourage that person to strive to lose more weight because when they look in the mirror they think they are obese. We get them help through medical and psychotherapy. If there is a spectrum of maleness and femaleness in gender identity I believe Dr. McHugh's reference to the swedish 30 year study of 324 reassigned patients who decided they were more the other than they were bestowed at birth have shown more psychological unrest and 20 fold more suicides even after reassignment.
    What does that mean then for identity? It has to be asked.
  • On a more humorous note. I could only imagine if friends and family received birth announcements in the mail which said "It's mostly a boy!" "We'll have to wait and see"
    :D
  • BadgerBadger
    Posts: 777
    On the darker side, I heard recently of a psychologist who prescribed an analgesic eye drops for a patient who wanted to be blind, so they could pour drain cleaner in their eyes.

    That's not helping; that's enabling. And it's wrong. Horribly, horribly wrong.
  • CanacanCanacan
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    On a more humorous note. I could only imagine if friends and family received birth announcements in the mail which said "It's mostly a boy!" "We'll have to wait and see"
    :D


    Kids are not adults.

    You got me quite wrong. Sorry I couldn't be clearer.

    Mostly sure doesn't mean 50/50. It's mostly an hormonal thing and genitilia is a reflect of the hormonal balance during intra-uteral growth. Forget insane gender propaganda, think of the larger picture.
  • UnfugUnfug
    Posts: 113
    hey a sign of life from @Canacan. I'm happy you are still around :)
  • Kids are not adults, very true. But the adults are who had kids. And I'm pretty sure the doctor knows which one of the couple was the female who had the baby. There is more than just an intrauterine hormone reaction going on but in fact the very genetic expression of the fused alleles is being formed in that incubator. Of all the pairs of chromosomes we sure do get hung up on these xx xy things. If there is a confusion in expression perhaps what we are seeing is a biological disorder then. Or perhaps the mental comprehension of gender as we go through adolescent years can be attributed to environmental toxicity of a hormonal nature. Aft er all the inundation of estrogen types injected into our food and parables with estrogen like activities. Just consideration the possibility of nature vs nurture I guess. As for the tongue in cheek on birth announcements, I guess I was taking a fun jab at the possibility that we can no longer trust the wisdom of the obvious. It was meant to question whether you see life as having structured truths or whethe you see it as relative. Such a poll that started the is whole discussion. Works under the assumption of relativism which is self defeating. If one affirms relativism then there is no truth and neither yours or my truth claims can b be wrong even if they contradict one another. Which means I too am right. And if it is refuted then it decries that there is absolute truth which negates the idea of relative truth. Definition of "is". :D
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 747
    @yankeecowboy
    All in all, I think we agree.

    Anyway, this poll is flawed but at the time I created it, it was way better for me than others.

    And to solve the gender headache society seems to have these days, male and female are both identical and opposites, just like the poles of a magnet, two phases of a single species. Opposites are both as different as can be and as similar as can be. People tend not to appreciate paradoxes and complexity and prefer to stick either to the idea of sameness or of fundamental difference... But nature doesn't care.