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I Found My EDGE!
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    Recently, as I've been exploring Aneros for the first time, I wrote about a few of my early sessions leaving me stranded at "the edge" of "something". The feeling was so intense, it felt like I was going to orgasm, but didn't. While pleasurable, it was also slightly frustrating. The user "rumel" wrote in my post "there IS no edge", and directed me to a former post of his for more info.

    After having some very successful sessions in the last week, I have finally realized what "the edge" meant to me, and what I was trying to quantify by seeking it.

    First, rumel was right, sort of. In terms of sexual pleasure, the edge did NOT exist. When I finally passed the point I was stalled at, the intensity of the dry orgasms were higher, but not much higher such as one would quantify as an "edge" of any kind. There was no waterfall feeling with my dry orgasms that made me feel like I was going over the edge like when I have a normal orgasm. Things were frickin amazing, but not edgy.

    What I finally realized is that the sensation I was looking for, the "edge" I was seeking, was the point when the dry orgasms took over and continued on their own. Up to that point, I had to focus and concentrate like crazy just to keep the intensity at the top level. This was a lot of work (I'm getting better these days with less work). However, once the dry orgasms started, my body took control, and suddenly the pleasure stayed at the top level without any effort at all. I stayed at orgasmic intensity while completely letting go and relaxing. At this point, the orgasms became more intense, and wave after wave of pleasure continued unabated with no effort on my part.

    The differentiation between the point I'm working the hardest and concentrating the most "waiting" for something to happen versus the point where orgasms just start on their own without effort is the edge I was seeking. I guess I just needed to figure out how to express what I was feeling.

    Since my previous posts, I have had dry orgasms that had that rolling over a waterfall feeling that my traditional orgasms have, and they are amazing. The lack of contractions after they are over is still strange, though. It's exactly how my wife's orgasms appear, though. She has lots of little contractions, but no major release like I have, and I never understood the difference in her and my orgasms until now; no matter how strong my dry orgasms are, they don't generate a lot of big contractions at all, just lots of little ones. I guess the main contractions are for semen expulsion? And they don't happen with dry orgasms? Or the muscles responsible for the big contractions are tied to the nervous at the tip of the penis?(which I'm not stimulating in my hands-off approach).

    With that said, I've started having full-blown prostate orgasms that feel every bit as "edge" worthy as my normal orgasms. There is a huge build up and tensing in the perineum, and then a release of pleasure. These orgasms definitely feel different from the dry orgasms. They are WAY more intense! Wow, is all I can say. But I digress.

    For those seeking the "edge", I hope my interpretation of it makes sense. And for the most part, the best way to get over it is to relax and let the body get you there.
  • Theme_Gasm
    Posts: 308
    Awesome way to describe the experience...and congratulations!
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 626
    Hi @mdad,

    I found your writing style about your Aneros experiences to be highly inspirational. You appear to be an Aneros natural!

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 372
    You describe what I have been experiencing and trying to describe and understand for a while, mdad. Thanks. I can get to the extreme orgasm feelings but I have to work at it with touch and non-touch techniques but haven't had the self-sustaining orgasms yet. What are you doing or not doing when you are approaching the EDGE?
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    "You describe what I have been experiencing and trying to describe and understand for a while, mdad. "

    I figured that others would be experiencing the same thing I did, feeling like they were "almost there", and trying to get things to go over. That was the main reason I posted. What I found was that instead of trying to get things to be more intense, which didn't work, I should have been focusing on letting things "happen" on their own. Each time I tried to concentrate harder and get to a more intense level, the pleasure would back off; this is because there was NO edge, NO higher level, and therefore I was wasting my energy trying to get there. Understanding that I was there, but needing to let it start on its own, was a big hurdle and "aha" moment for me. Switching focus from trying to intensify things to trying to relax into it made a big difference.

    What are you doing or not doing when you are approaching the EDGE?

    We're all different, but for me, when I'm "at the edge", I think what I need to do is relax more and pay attention to how the pleasure stays at the peak when I'm relaxing. At some point, I realize that I'm 100% relaxed and the pleasure is still at the peak. At this point, I go into super relaxation mode and just enjoy that moment. Eventually, after staying at this peak long enough, my body starts to take over and things actually get MORE intense afterwards. Sometimes I feel like I have flying, buzzing insects running up and down my genitals (the "worm" sensation described before). At this point, things just take off on their own.
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 845
    @mdad, for a newbie you sure know what you are talking about!  Congratulations!  You have put into words some very important information that anyone using an aneros needs to know.  It does take a while but eventually we all will realize the "aha" moment. I used to get so frustrated when I was learning, people just kept saying relax, well I thought I was relaxed lol, nope, you can relax even more, and then some more.  And then the fun begins. Thanks again for your great explanation, I hope many others read it as its golden information.
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    yup, outstanding progress mdad, and outstanding responses

    relax, relax, relax
    let go, let go, let go
    surrender, surrender, surrender
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    Alright, so I realize that this edge may be a stopping point for a lot of guys, and I should probably describe in more depth how I get passed it.

    First, when I get to orgasmic level intensity, and feel the urge to get it "over the top", then I know I'm at the edge.

    Second, I have to recognize that I'm at the top.

    Third, I relax a little (not all the way), and focus on the pleasure that exists as I relax. I breath out slowly, trying to keep the pleasure there while relaxing. Slow adbominal breathing often times allows me to keep the tension high. Sometimes I "blow" on the pleasure, like blowing out a candle. Sometimes I blow slowly and then forcefully at the end of the breath in a modified key sound motion to get the abdomen rolling downwards.

    Fourth, when the pleasure dips down a little, I concentrate again and work to bring it back up to the peak. Then I go back to step 3.

    I alternate between 3 and 4 as long as needed. Each time I do so, I am able to relax a little bit more and have the pleasurable sensations stay at the peak. I try to go a little bit more each time.

    Fifth, and finally, when I've finally reached the phase where I am completely relaxed and the pleasure is still at the peak, I try to breath out slowly and calm the mind as much as possible. Occassionally I have to go back to step 3 again.

    At this point, I am often times at the point where it will take off on it's own. I hope that helps!


  • Sky_Walker
    Posts: 62
    Brilliant description mdad.
    I often get that edge feeling you describe, now I know what to do with it.
    Thank you very much.
  • krissive
    Posts: 23
    Boy this thread needs to be pinned to the top of the forum...
  • @mdad, this is another great description that matches my own experiences very closely. The moment where it changes from you working at it to it just happening to you is the key moment for me too.

    Also, I find the it happens differently depending on whether I'm using an Aneros or not. In the former case, the intensity of feelings happen somewhere in the rectal canal (not necessarily the prostate, I don't think), while with the latter, it starts, and sometimes ends, behind the testicles, but the most intense "going over the edge" experiences happen up and down the shaft of the penis.

  • dmiket
    Posts: 25
    Relax, relax, relax....I've recently been where you're describing and can understand with your words how close I was to having things go autopilot for me.
    One of the most interesting moments for me was having a "ball of energy" moving around my rectum and prostate.
    It was frigging phenomenal!!!!
    Thanks for sharing!!!
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    One of the most interesting moments for me was having a "ball of energy" moving around my rectum and prostate.

    I completely love this phenomena. Sometimes the ball of energy moves into my penis, and things really get going when that happens!
  • Thanks for this post,
    At the moment I feel I am in the same position, I feel I am at "the edge" or at the top, right on the edge of full dry orgasm but can't quite get over the top.
    So I guess what you are saying if I am right is don't try and force yourself over the edge, instead when you feel you are there relax and come down a little, then let the fellings build up again and you will get 'over the edge' without trying to force it?
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 626
    mdad said:

    One of the most interesting moments for me was having a "ball of energy" moving around my rectum and prostate.


    I completely love this phenomena. Sometimes the ball of energy moves into my penis, and things really get going when that happens!


    Hi @mdad,

    This has been happening to me in almost my sessions in the last several weeks. Oh yeah, that "ball of energy" churning in my prostate, penis, and scrotum. So sweet! Makes me glad that I am a man. And that lingering energy like electricity in my "man area" for hours afterward!

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 407
    let me know when you go over the edge like I have:) orgasm contractions and physical waves in the anal muscles or the muscles in your belly.. looks like I get the same as my gf does when having a g-spot orgasm :)
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    So I guess what you are saying if I am right is don't try and force yourself over the edge, instead when you feel you are there relax and come down a little, then let the fellings build up again and you will get 'over the edge' without trying to force it?

    It's weird, but I try to relax and "notice" how the pleasure is at the top while I am relaxed. Trying to "notice" the pleasure is one of the key things for me. Instead of trying to use the pleasure or make it go higher, I just try to pay attention to the fact that it is THERE. Each time I relax, I pay attention to how great my penis feels without trying to do anything more to it. Sometimes the pleasure hangs there for a while, and that means it's CLOSE to starting on its own. If it drops off a bit, I try to bring it to that point again, and then relax and pay attention to it without doing anything.

    And again, the "over the edge" doesn't mean an increase in intensity (although it probably will increase once it starts on its own), but more the dividing line between you having to keep pushing it to the top and it staying there. You'll probably notice that it stays there a little on its own when you relax; that's a good sign and it means you pretty much there. When you can have it stay there on its own completely for a long time without working it, your body will start to take over.

    I find that once my body takes over, the pleasure slowly increases past the point where I couldn't increase it any further. But make no mistake, if I tried to push it past that point, it would never stay. My body had to do it for me.
  • Hi there.

    Very interesting read. This is exactly the point where I am now, and just by reading this I think I am starting to figure out what I am doing wrong and why I can't go past "the edge". I have a question though... relaxing more and more also means stop contracting? In some places I read it's good to contract at its maximum to unchain the orgasm, but that doesn't seem like surrender or letting go to me, and more like trying to make it happen (and we're not supposed to be trying I understand).

    Thank you for sharing that valuable information. I'm gonna try and put it into practice tonight :-)


  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    Very interesting read. This is exactly the point where I am now

    WOW. I'm amazed at how many people were exactly right at this spot. I'm glad I posted my experience, as it seems like it might help some of us get over the hurdle. I hope to read more experiences from others that figured out how to get passed this point.

    So I guess what you are saying if I am right is don't try and force yourself over the edge, instead when you feel you are there relax and come down a little, then let the fellings build up again and you will get 'over the edge' without trying to force it?

    Remember, what works for me might not work for you. I find light contractions sometimes helpful, but for the most part, I end up squeezing too much and I kill the involuntary. I will allow myself to twitch the muscles now and then, and occasionally hold a light contractions (as is recommended), but I find I sense the involuntaries better if I do nothing at all and just augment them with my mind only.

    Also, when my sessions are going well, I get very few involuntaries at all. I know that's contrary to what others say, but usually my involuntaries start at the beginning and simmer down as things progress. I experience a slower overall tightening rather than small spasms. So rather than focus on involuntary spasms, I focus more on the pleasure I'm sensing itself, and the overall tightness.

     I have a question though... relaxing more and more also means stop contracting?

    I relax and just try to notice the pleasure staying at the peak. If it stays there AT ALL, you're getting close. I try to get to the point where the pleasure stays at the edge with me doing nothing at all. Sometimes I have to keep it there longer, but eventually, my body takes over. And as stated above, usually I'm using mental focus to keep it there rather than voluntarily contracting my muscles. Occasionally I'll twitch the muscles a little, but for the most part, my focus is on paying attention to how to keep the pleasure wave at the maximum while doing the least amount of work. Also, breathing plays a big part here; I focus on breathing fire onto the pleasure (e.g. blowing slowly like I'm blowing out a candle, or doing abdominal breathing, or rolling my abdominal muscles).

    Even if you never get over the edge, when you get to the point where you can relax and enjoy the pleasure without working at it much, it's still more pleasurable than straining to keep things there. It's nice to just sit back and enjoy that point. When your body takes over, things WILL get more intense, but until this time, the pleasure at the edge is extremely nice.

    One thing I always try to keep in the back of my mind is how I feel before a traditional orgasm. The point where things are pleasurable, then REALLY pleasurable, and then you are passed the point of no return, and it's over, QUICKLY. My wife, on the other hand, often times hangs right there on the edge for a LONG time. She used to be frustrated by it, while I, on the other hand, was envious that she got to stay at that spot for a long time. I always enjoyed the pleasure at the edge just before orgasm, but it was always too short to enjoy before the actual orgasm started. So part of my mindset trying to relax into the pleasure is to enjoy the fact that I get to experience a little of what my wife experiences, hanging at a high level of pleasure for a long period of time. So often we are focused on getting to the "good part" that we forget to enjoy the journey, and hanging at the edge for 30 minutes is a wonderful feeling. Try not to look at it as frustrating, but try to look at it as an enjoyable time that you wouldn't mind staying at forever, and a new experience that you didn't get to have before.
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 845
    "So part of my mindset trying to relax into the pleasure is to enjoy the fact that I get to experience a little of what my wife experiences, hanging at a high level of pleasure for a long period of time. So often we are focused on getting to the "good part" that we forget to enjoy the journey, and hanging at the edge for 30 minutes is a wonderful feeling. Try not to look at it as frustrating, but try to look at it as an enjoyable time that you wouldn't mind staying at forever, and a new experience that you didn't get to have before."

    Very well put @Mdad!!!


  • Great! I think I'm mentally ready to approach the experience as you suggest. 

    Thank you so much for your tips @mdad!! 
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    Mdad,

    This subject got me to thinking.  So today I tried something that ended up having outstanding results.

    I was contemplating this whole "edge" thing.  To me there IS NO 'edge' you just experience waves of…bliss, erotic pleasure, whatever you're getting.  There are periods of 'dry orgasm' for me…intense pleasure, but mild testicle or muscle 'pumping' action.

    Anyway…

    I decided today that I would "sit back behind the edge"…in other words….I just wanted the loving bliss feeling with NO intense feelings and NO orgasmic feelings.  I just wanted to feel happy and loving.

    I got what I wanted and a hell of a lot more.  Now, first, this wasnt a "hidden agenda" thing where I was trying to "trick" myself into saying I didn't want something to happen so that, in fact, it WOULD happen.

    My session was specifically oriented towards just having happy loving mild bliss.

    It was awesome.  I didn't try in any way to even rise up to the "edge".  But after about 30 minutes I started getting my socks blown off.  For a long time I "dialed back" the intensity so that I could just feel happy/loving.

    Then I let 'er go.  Damn.  Got some intense sustained eroticism and some very heavy (subtly different to me this time) Dry-O type action.  gads.  

    Bottom Line: I'm sorta off topic from you on this….but I wanted to tell you that I went looking for a "place" back behind "the edge" a bit…like maybe 80% behind it??  and I sure found a lovely place to take refuge.  And that place led me to something spectacular.

    Maybe you'd want to try that sometime???  just a thought.
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    That sounds very similar to my approach of just relaxing and enjoying being near peak intensity without forcing it or expecting more. Just paying attention to the feeling without expectation seems to work very well for me.
  • I tried this approach last night and I think I am in the right track! I didn't get intense feelings (I was subconciously expecting them, I can train that I think) and I understood I can be in this happy place you @Anerico are suggesting for a long time, and it is also fun... eventually it was too late and I had to sleep, but I think this is definitely the way.

    Thank you again for offering a new perspective! It's great!
  • Theme_Gasm
    Posts: 308
    AneRico said:

    Mdad,


    This subject got me to thinking.  So today I tried something that ended up having outstanding results.

    I was contemplating this whole "edge" thing.  To me there IS NO 'edge' you just experience waves of…bliss, erotic pleasure, whatever you're getting.  There are periods of 'dry orgasm' for me…intense pleasure, but mild testicle or muscle 'pumping' action.

    Anyway…

    I decided today that I would "sit back behind the edge"…in other words….I just wanted the loving bliss feeling with NO intense feelings and NO orgasmic feelings.  I just wanted to feel happy and loving.

    I got what I wanted and a hell of a lot more.  Now, first, this wasnt a "hidden agenda" thing where I was trying to "trick" myself into saying I didn't want something to happen so that, in fact, it WOULD happen.

    My session was specifically oriented towards just having happy loving mild bliss.

    It was awesome.  I didn't try in any way to even rise up to the "edge".  But after about 30 minutes I started getting my socks blown off.  For a long time I "dialed back" the intensity so that I could just feel happy/loving.

    Then I let 'er go.  Damn.  Got some intense sustained eroticism and some very heavy (subtly different to me this time) Dry-O type action.  gads.  

    Bottom Line: I'm sorta off topic from you on this….but I wanted to tell you that I went looking for a "place" back behind "the edge" a bit…like maybe 80% behind it??  and I sure found a lovely place to take refuge.  And that place led me to something spectacular.

    Maybe you'd want to try that sometime???  just a thought.


    That is a great testament to all guys that "less active involvement can often lead to more" and better results!
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    I tried repeating the experience two more times yesterday.  I jumped right into pretty intense feelings and went into SuperO's fairly quickly.  It was hard to dial them back.

    I realized that I didn't CAREFULLY note what I was doing on that first 'successful' session.  But some of it came back to mind.

    First, my theory here is that after the first session my prostate was sensitive enough that subsequent sessions were going to get intense quickly because there wasn't such a need to "get settled in" and used to the session.

    But, mentally, I was not doing the same things.  In the first session (the successful one) I was spending a LOT of time focusing on "cuddly" type thoughts, (cues, if you will..), and was focusing very much on my inner energy (chakras…some guys hate that shit, I know), but suffice it to say my mental imagery was not the same and I think that affected the results too.

    Gee, guess I have to do more "homework".  hehehehehe.

    Oh One More Thing:  I really did NOT want this to go into SuperO's.  I wanted the intensity to stay back behind the crest of the wave.  Like I said, 80% would have been great…just keep it there.  
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    OK,  the process is repeatable, and you can do multiples in one day.  I did 3 sessions yesterday that were about 1.5 to 2 hours long.  each was "80% behind the edege".  Lovely.  

    The technique:  Intention is everything.  Tell yourself you will STOP and GET UP if things escalate too close to SuperO's.  Focus thoughts on 'cuddling' type stuff, not sex.  Pay attention to the feelings in your entire body…keep it "spread out" over your entire body at 80% (or thereabouts).  Relax.  Breathe.
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    @mdad

    I apologize for hogging your thread a little with this.  It became a project for me to find the 'backside of the edge'.  I hope I have contributed in a constructive way to your thread.
  • Taff1
    Posts: 6
    I love the idea of the backside of the edge. I tried it yesterday and it was amazing. I think it stopped me trying to push forward, and holding back just lets things happen at their own pace. Interestingly the super O I had felt different. More of a hot glow, even at points a red hot sensation, Amazing!
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    @TAff1

    YES! YES! YES!  Way to go!
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 845
    @AneRico, do you use the "do nothing" method or something else?
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    Yes, "do nothing"….which, of course, is in reality DO A LOT OF THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
  • Hello there!

    After trying and training my mind a bit more, I can now say this is definitely working for me too. After three sessions I can tell my mind has already understood that prostate time is one thing and penis time is another. 

    For me, it also helps to isolate prostate sessions from traditional penile stimulation and traditional orgasming: I have stopped finishing off an Aneros session with ejaculation (I now stop the session when I decide I had enough and ejaculate in a different time, maybe a bit later, maybe I don't at all and just enjoy the satisfaction of that "intense long erotic glow" all over my body and that's it, so my mind is erasing the "goal" mindset. And yes, it is working wonders, getting intense pleasure waves that seem to spread more and more everytime and get more intense, without feeling like my body is trying too hard to embrace them. 

    I guess it works as many pointed out in this thread, like a rubber band, the more you tense the rubber band up (relaxing, breathing, not expecting pleasure or anything at all), the stronger it bounces back to the opposite direction... makes sense, we all work under the laws of physics :P

    I've had 3 very good sessions since I understood the "no edge" concept thanks to this thread. My arms and legs now reach a point where I lose awareness of them until the tingling spreads all over my body from my prostate and feels like arms and legs are floating, suspended by sexual energy... and although I can imagine it can even get better, i'm not hoping for it. My mind now focuses on whats happening and what just happened during a session, not on what I can do to make more happen. That has been the key in my case.

    I hope many others at the same point I was can finally finally figure this out... seems like a simple thing, and I thought I had understood after reading so many times I shouldn't have expectations... turns out it wasn't that simple, but it was possible to really approach the sessions like that after a bit of mind training :-))

    I think I haven't even experienced the intensity of a super O as many describe it here, but to be honest, things feel so nice that I'm not sure norI care anymore! :P I'm ready to welcome more intensity when it comes, if it comes, but if it doesn't come the way I was expecting it to come, or at all, I'm completely fine with this too ;-)

    Have a good day!
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 845
    @mitsu1980, good to hear!  
  • ReWireReWire
    Posts: 13
    Thank you mdad for sharing with such description that I was able to follow you exactly. I was also able to duplicate the backing off and have the dry orgasms "run" on their own for the very first time. I visualize it like getting a top to spin on its own.  My journey has been over 4 months now and any bit of progress gives me hope. I have re-read your posts several times and unless I missed it, you have not said that you have had the Super O. Is that true? If you have, I look forward to any other details that have taken you to that point. Thanks again for your generous sharing of details.
  • mdad
    Posts: 90
    Congrats ReWire! That sounds great! No, I haven't had a Super-O, but I MAY have had one while I was asleep (I posted about that). I'm not focused on it, though, as Dry-O's and Prostate-O's are amazing when they occur (especially in sequence). I've been quite happy with what I've experienced so far that I feel no reason to stress over getting to another step.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 626
    AneRico said:

    Yes, "do nothing"….which, of course, is in reality DO A LOT OF THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.



    Hi @AneRico,

    I am discovering gradually more and more the "do nothing" approach in my Aneros sessions. I discovered this for sure about a week or so ago when I began lying on my right side while Anerosing. I found that in that pose, I am rather passive. Wow, my Aneros tools DO move and massage my prostate and anal canal, albeit so slowly and subtly, and yet so sweetly. Lying on my right side (my preferred position for sleeping) works especially fine with Maximus and Progasm Classic. ;)

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • AneRico said:

    Yes, "do nothing"….which, of course, is in reality DO A LOT OF THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.



    Hi @AneRico,

    I am discovering gradually more and more the "do nothing" approach in my Aneros sessions. I discovered this for sure about a week or so ago when I began lying on my right side while Anerosing. I found that in that pose, I am rather passive. Wow, my Aneros tools DO move and massage my prostate and anal canal, albeit so slowly and subtly, and yet so sweetly. Lying on my right side (my preferred position for sleeping) works especially fine with Maximus and Progasm Classic. ;)

    Thom./BigGlansDC


    Hey Thom -

    I think I sleep alot on my right side, as well as on my back, and the latter position (supine) I find most conducive to Aneros (Progasm) action on my prostate.  Also my penis is more accessible, either for the casual "brush" of my hand, or just as a temptation to resist.  I rarely sleep prone (on my belly), but it also often makes for a good ride.  I sleep nude, and have for almost forty years (I'm 52).

    Unless it's uncomfortably hot, my wife will "spoon" my ass when I sleep on my right side.  She sleeps very soundly, especially after she's been well f**ked, and she does know I am a frequent wanker.  She generally is not aware of how often I ride my Progasm.  I try to minimize loud and convulsive activity, except during coition, unless I'm alone.  We have a king bed with a heavy LATEX foam mattress on a ¾ inch plywood base, and either of us could bring another person into bed and f**k wildly without waking the other!

    "Do nothing" is the key to success in almost everything sexual.  I am NOT suggesting the lack of vigorous activity, but an attitude toward receiving whatever erotic pleasure may be offered.

     - rip
  • @mdad

    I apologize for hogging your thread a little with this.  It became a project for me to find the 'backside of the edge'.  I hope I have contributed in a constructive way to your thread.


    AneRico -

    Your descriptive term "backside of the edge," is IMO a wonderful mantra for mindful erotic sexual enjoyment.  I have previously personally used terms like "allowing myself to sink into the pleasure" (as opposed to actively seeking an escalation of genital sensuous pleasure).  "The edge" is a wonderful place to exist, and is in fact (IMO) a spiritual plane.  The backside of the edge is a place I can visualize, and I will be seeking to camp there for a lengthy season tonight!

    Thanks.

     - rip
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 626
    Hi @RipTheJacker,

    In contrast to you, I am a confirmed bachelor, twelve years older than you, without having the companionship of a wife. But I think I am on something with my newly discovered pose of Anerosing while lying on my right side. Both the Maximus and Progasm Classic are high-end tools of the Aneros line and are known for their aggressive action. But they give me such a full feeling as I lie on my left side as they both give me such a delicate and sweet Anerosing. ;)

    Also I love very much what you have written in response to @AneRico.

    Thom.
  • Hi @RipTheJacker,


    In contrast to you, I am a confirmed bachelor, twelve years older than you, without having the companionship of a wife. But I think I am on something with my newly discovered pose of Anerosing while lying on my right side. Both the Maximus and Progasm Classic are high-end tools of the Aneros line and are known for their aggressive action. But they give me such a full feeling as I lie on my left side as they both give me such a delicate and sweet Anerosing. ;)

    Also I love very much what you have written in response to @AneRico.

    Thom.


    I find you elusive as a butterfly
     - rip
  • AneRico
    Posts: 211
    Heya Rip,

    Thank you very much for your kind, as well as illuminating, words.  I appreciate it very much.


  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 372
    Are you a butterfly dreaming that you're a man or ...?
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 626
    euphemistic said:Are you a butterfly dreaming that you're a man or ...?


    Oh no, @euphemistic! None of that! But I thank @RipTheJacker for the imagery of
    butterflies
  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 372
    you never know unless you ask
  • Like you all (above) I have found this thread one of the most important and insightful ones recently active and I thank you all, especially mdad as the "instigator" and AneRico.  this thread has further strengthened my sense of brotherly camaraderie with my fellow 'travelers' and for that, too, I am grateful .