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Straight to curious poll
  • View Poll Results: How many straight men who use Aneros have become curious about or interested in gay sex or gay porn? Voters: 69

    You may not vote on this poll

    Yes, I have started looking at gay porn during a session, or thought about men. 38 55.07%

    No, it hasn't been my experience. 31 44.93%

  • BradmanBradman
    Posts: 1
    Since the Aneros opens straight men up to getting pleasure in their back door, I'm wondering how many straight men have been compelled to check out gay porn or think about trying gay sex after they began using Aneros.

    I welcome hearing about it...

    (Prior to Forum format changeover data corruption, the voting numbers were Yes = 30 & No = 32)
  • STARR831STARR831
    Posts: 70
    I'm straight; and, the use of Aneros has led me in quite the opposite direction. My wife was curious from the start of my use; and, I soon realized she became very turned on by observing my interaction with Aneros. She is now at the point of being very comfortable helping to insert and remove my Aneros. This comfort level has led her to the point of actually stimulating my prostate and anal area digitally during our times of intamate sharing. I can honestly say that with my wife and Aneros present, I have no desire to wander elsewhere!
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,488
    Interesting question Bradman.

    Really enjoyed your reply STARR831. Mind if I ask your age?

    My wife and I are 62, a monogamous 40 year straight marriage. I experimented in my youth, began solo prostate massaging in my mid-teens, and a couple of years later entered a sexual experimenting relationship with a male friend. We tried everything. We both married our girl friends soon after. Soon after that he realized that he was and is gay, and they separated and divorced.

    In the Male Sexual Orientation Here Poll, as I explained my history, I voted straight-bi; a male who has enjoyed "back door pleasures" virtually from puberty onward and yet, after experimenting to "just figure it out" back in the 1960s, found himself on the straight side of the bisexual fulcrum point.

    I am still friends with the gay co-adventurer of my youth, a platonic friendship, but one where we still discuss sexual matters in a very open way. I have encouraged him to try Aneros,BTW.

    Having developed the mutual prostate practice with my dear wife, we are even closer and much more energized sexually together than earlier in our marriage!

    Just as separating orgasmic response from the penis's ejaculation is the key to success with Aneros, so straight men and women separating the question of sexual orientation from the realm of anal/prostate play, and the full male sexual development around the prostate, is key to enlightened sexuality for humanity going forward.

    They are biologically two separate things. I was/am thrilled that the Aneros prostate health tool has been able to open that door and contribute in astounding ways to making that issue much clearer for all.

    all the best to all

    artform
  • Well I must admit I thought I was getting a gay film awhile ago.
    It was called something like
    'Chicks WithDicks'
    Very soft porn.
    In fact it was more about a guy getting screwed by a nice girl
    in Bankok or that part of the world.
    In fact it was the same girl who screwed another guy.
    A bit later another dude inserts a dildo in his hairy butt whilst having a tugg.
    The guys looked feminine,
    Butt they had no tits.
    Very disappointed..This was a pay per view programme. ;(
    Mick...
  • Noob71Noob71
    Posts: 22
    i'd do it with a sexy shemale, but guys do nothing for me...
  • ctusserctusser
    Posts: 95
    In my childhood I was conditioned to homosexual relations due to sexual abuse by two older males. This continued into my teens but I was fantasizing about strait sex durring these encounters. After I developed confidence with women I never looked back and find gay sex repulsive; no offense, that's just how I feel.

    Aneros use has not changed my outlook on this. I was drawn to aneros products from the claims of increased sexual performance and the potential for MMO.
  • tairytairy
    Posts: 51
    Yeah, I like some shemale stuff, but the girl has to be really feminine. I quite enjoy the variety of possibilities it opens up - giving each other blowjobs, switching back and forth between fucking and getting fucked. I know in the latter case you could always be with a girl using a strapon, but it's just not the same thing to me.

    Anyway, after I got comfortable with being penetrated myself, and had watched and enjoyed some TS-on-male scenes, I figured I should give regular gay porn a try. But I pretty quickly figured out it's not for me, watching two men does not turn me on. Even bi-sexual threesomes with two men don't do a whole lot for me, watching one suck the other.

    So I guess I'm more or less straight, with the TS stuff being one small exception. Ultimately that's probably more of a fantasy than something I would pursue in real life.

    I think we might be making too much about the growing popularity of shemale porn in general as some kind of watershed moment in sexuality; ultimately it just shows that the gender identity is a bigger turn-on than someone's mere biological sex. A curvy body with breasts and a beautiful face is often going to trump someone getting turned off by a penis down below (quite the opposite, in fact, it's the somewhat taboo/forbidden/"wrong" sensation one gets that makes it that much hotter).
  • imadeitimadeit
    Posts: 20
    I only watch girl-girl, girl-shemale, or girl solo porn.  I have hard time looking at a guy's face in porn so shopping for porn had always be hard for me.  After extensive use of aneros and other stuff, that didn't change at all.  I don't believe anything you do to your own body would change sexual orientation. 
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,726
    My Aneros play is both solo and "coupled" within the context of married foreplay and intercourse.  I continue as a str8 with a bi-curious bent.  That "bi" aspect of my being will never be fulfilled due to my monogamous nature.

    My interest in male-on-male sex springs from a desire to constructively socialize with gay men both in the Aneros Forum/Chat environment and on a personal basis.  I find that most Gay men have a more comprehensive understanding of male sexuality than most str8's.

    Two of my frequent golf-buds are gay (one is a single Dad) and this "socialization," via the Aneros community, has improved my view of their "wholeness" as persons.  I have become more able to affiliate with gay man finding that, as brothers, we have more in common than I had ever anticipated.

    Oh yes,  I do check out Darwin's "Male Pussy" foto site on a regular basis.  That probably makes me, "bi-envious" with no fulfillment in my future.  I can live with that self-imposed restriction.
  • BigOluverBigOluver
    Posts: 236
    @rook that was a beautiful answer. As a gay male to each is own. Were all brothers here and as long as we get our orgasms and MMO's then everything is alright. 
  • I originally found aneros because I was bored and looking for better ways to masturbate.  It hasn't changed my sexual preferences one bit, I will only engage with women.  What the aneros has done for me is open my mind and heighten the sexual potential of my body.  I absolutely love what I have discovered about my body through the aneros and feel fortunate as compared to most other men who are either reluctant to delve into this aspect of themselves or simply ignorant to it's existence.  I feel that it puts men on more or less even footing in comparison to females in terms of sexual pleasure, as penile stimulation alone is nice but has it's limits with the refractory period and physiological changes that lead to decreased arousal afterwards.  Edging is also nice but again typically only practical solo and once you release the fun is over.  It is one of my biggest fantasies to be pegged my a woman one day, to find someone open and interested in such things.  The whole she-male thing is an interesting concept however it is my understanding that they all started out as male and that is an automatic turn-off.  To me what someone was originally born into is what they will always be no matter what surgeries or hormones are administered, they will never *truly* be the other sex.  It's actually disgustingly scary how many transgendered individuals are out there and choose to remain hidden, not informing others of their true nature before engaging with them on ANY level.  Don't misunderstand me, I am ok with transgendered people and the freedom to change your body, but I think it is 100% wrong to deceive others.  On the other hand a female who has undergone some "enhancement" surgery could be interesting haha.
  • Noob71Noob71
    Posts: 22
    @tairy - I totally agree with you...check out Sabrina Suzuki,Yasmine Lee, or Yeidi Collins...all quite feminine t-girls.  I've used my dildo while watching them in action - prob'ly as close as i'll get to having sex with them.  
    I've had a few gay(platonic) friends/acquaintances in my life and i do not judge them for their sexuality.  Not to say i haven't wondered what gay sex might be like, i've never been sexually attracted to any man in my life, so i guess i'm just slightly curious.  Suppose if i ever found sexual chemistry with a male, i'd be inclined to give it a shot (or take one, lol)

    Me? I'm not gay, but I think this guy sucking my dick might be...wink wink
  • J2_0J2_0
    Posts: 23
    When they say Aneros is a journey they are correct, where it takes you depends. I have found after using several devices, I was drawn to a Pro-Dom to peg me. Now after some time and a forum:
    http://www.bbglforum.com/ I became more interested to exploring other possibilities. Later I found gay porn (which use to offend me) very enticing. My how things have developed ;)
  • @J2_0 - Yeah, I can relate. I forget the exact timing but I'm pretty sure I was into Tgirls before I began to officially ride last October. However since then I certainly have become an avid fan of all things Tgirl for various reasons. As far as gay porn goes, I was never offended by it just never interested.

    Now though, definitely a turn on. Which of course begs the question as a bi-ish curious-ish (again, mainly because of the the Tgirls) am I full blown gay? The straights would say yep, pretty much, anything about a dick or man or tgirls ass that turns you on pretty much means you're gay, even if you still like women. To me, one, this journey for so many of us has opened so many doors, most obviously our own back one's! Two, for someone who never really paid attention or was turned on, or afraid to be turned on to gay porn, to me it represents something different, exciting, a new kink.

    So yeah, I like it, and use it, and have read that depending on the kind you like says a lot about you.
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 575
    Men having sex with other men or with transexuals never did anything for me.

    Aneros changed nothing to that. I still find it absolutely boring.

    The only change is I now feel less attracted to porn in general. There is having sex with a girl I love, there is practicing tantra or taoist cultivation on my own (with or without aneros) or with said partner... The rest is a joke.
  • I've never been attracted by men, at all (I'm not even able to recognize a handsome next to a more common guy.) 

    BUT, I've always been attracted by gay sex and have been fantasizing about being fucked or sucking cocks. I usually get aroused by gay sex if I don't see the guys' faces or full bodies. 

    I'm a beginner, so I haven't experienced any real pleasure with the aneros but I'm afraid I would like to try more if it works for me ;)


  • Here we go again! Why do some use the Aneros as an Agent Provacateur? They had proclivities and desires for men prior to the Aneros. Mayhap blaming the Aneros lessens their guilt, and eases their minds somewhat. We interrupt your regularly scheduled program for breaking news....

    JUST BECAUSE A MAN PLAYS IN HIS RECTUM, DOES NOT MEAN HE WANTS TO BE WITH MEN. NO TRULY STRAIGHT MAN WOULD EVER CONSIDER BEING WITH A MAN AND/OR FANTASIZE OF MEN.
    SHE MALES ARE A SOMEWHAT SANITIZED VERSION OF MALE HOMOSEXUALITY. THE BOLT-ONS (TITTIES) PERCHANCE MAKE SOME MEN NOT NOTICE THE PENIS AND THE NUTS. SOME MUST LIKE PENISES WITH TITS.

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...
    To each his own or whatever! The Aneros is not going to sway a truly straight man to the other side. She male porn is gay porn, unless the dude with the tits is nailing a woman.
  • @pspotsquirter as In that other thread I see you are a bit of asshole in this thread as well
  • gregorgregor
    Posts: 24

    Here we go again! Why do some use the Aneros as an Agent Provacateur? They had proclivities and desires for men prior to the Aneros. Mayhap blaming the Aneros lessens their guilt, and eases their minds somewhat. We interrupt your regularly scheduled program for breaking news....

    JUST BECAUSE A MAN PLAYS IN HIS RECTUM, DOES NOT MEAN HE WANTS TO BE WITH MEN. NO TRULY STRAIGHT MAN WOULD EVER CONSIDER BEING WITH A MAN AND/OR FANTASIZE OF MEN.   



    This mindset is defensive and unproductive. Pspot speaks loudly, but he only speaks for himself: I'm sure we're all relieved to learn he is a truly straight man.  
     
    The original poster asked a question, so everyone is welcome to answer their own way. Here is my answer, and I bet I'm not alone.

    Lost in hours of trance and sometimes orgasm, I have found the aneros has locked some very deep doors within me, doors within my psyche I didn't know I had. I was not seduced by people, any vampires, or anything. I discovered it myself. Here is what I found:

    At times - I have a feminine side. 

    At times - I find penises sexy. My own, and others. (that is a revelation to me - had no idea of this before last year!)

    But never - do I find men attractive. I am actively turned off by gay porn, images of guys kissing, etc.

    In short, I do think my aneros experiences have sparked some interest in fantasizing about same-sex sex, not watching it.  But the interest in penises is surprisingly not that unusual among straight men: the image of a cock is a well-known sex trigger. Men like to see it and are curious about it, *especially* when it's attached to a female-looking thing.  What little porn-research we have consistently shows that straight guys like T-girl porn, and gay men want little or nothing to do with it.       

    After saying all that, I still view myself as straight, since I only could fall in love with the female face and female form. But I'm sure as hell a lot less narrow than I used to be.


     
  • @gregor
    A penis is a penis; even if bolt ons are involved. It is unnecessary for you to justify your attraction to men. It's odd that you will fantasize about man-man sex, but have an aversion to watching it. Are you saying that breasts on a man cause the penis to have more allure for you?

    A cock (as you so eloquently put it) will not trigger a straight man. It will trigger a homosexual man and a bi-sexual man. How does one have a feminine side at times? My mindset is not defensive and unproductive. I'm only stating the obvious. IMO the OP is asking the question for recruitment purposes. More than likely I'm speaking for other men as well. If you want
    to be with men, don't blame the Aneros. If you want to be with men, I need no explanation. The only one that would need an explanation would be your wife (provided you are married).

    T-Girl porn is gay porn. The word Girl is a further attempt at trying to cloak the homosexuality in T-Girl porn. T-Girl and man = homosexual because two penises are involved. T-Girl and biological woman = heterosexual because of a penis and a vagina. You have contradicted yourself, because if you are turned on by She male, T-Girl, Tits and cock... YOU ARE TURNED ON BY GAY PORN. That's your business.
  • @pspotsquirter, your thinking here about sexuality is simplistic. Your manner to other members is unnecessarily offensive and provocative.
  • @euphemistic
    I'm not trying to be offensive. It is what is, plain and simple. A duck does not crow, nor does a cow meow. Why do you find the post offensive? It's mild compared to the Bacchanalia that chat has become. But whatever! Sorry you took offense. But it was not addressed to you. Why does no one ever ask if the Aneros causes the homosexual users to try vagina?
  • honestly, the only thing having Aneros sessions for the past 2~3 years is helped me accept that i'm Bigender and accept that I am mentally half female, but I am still only attracted to women...
  • Nobody is 100% straight.  Sorry, but this is just a fact.

    Apparently we have some "macho men" here, trying to claim otherwise.
  • @Bartolo99
    This has nothing to do with being a "Macho Man". Why is it acceptable for the straight members to constantly be harangued for conversion? Why is the Aneros unnecessarily blamed for one's existing proclivities (pre Aneros)? Does one win a dream vacation for converting straight men? Or is it a secret badge of honor for some? Why does this question constantly appear?


    Basic biology: a She-male is man because it has a penis. This has nothing to do with being close minded. As I have said before, each his own, and more power to them. This post has nothing to do with judgement and/or castigation. If one cannot be 100% straight, is it possible for one to be 100% homosexual? How do you know that no-one is 100% straight?

    IMO many unneededly take offense when a man says he is proud to be straight. Why is that? Is it incorrect for a man to openly embrace his heterosexuality? Is this unacceptable? Why? There is too
    much predation about on the chat as well. The question of one's sexuality is always asked. Why?
    In the end a truly straight man will never be converted. If the Aneros were a conversion tool, would not the homosexual members be plowing (or contemplating plowing) Sally Jan Rottencrotch.
  • "IMO many unneededly take offense when a man says he is proud to be straight."

    We weren't offended by this, just because you basically tell people that they were actually gay before using aneros in a macho way and your experience is not everyone's experience. You just have to vote yes or no, simple as that, no need to be rude. 


  • @gountar
    Are you inferring the Aneros is a sexuality changer? Macho.!? Such a term of Feminism. Believe you me, I'm far from rude. It is not societally acceptable, nor is it acceptable here, for one to proclaim his heterosexuality and
    love of women. There is nothing to get offended over. This is merely a discussion.
  • @Pspotsquirter,

    You wrote: "A penis is a penis; even if bolt ons are involved."

    Are you saying that if your girlfriend uses an Aneros on you, that means your gay? or a strap on?
  • @Longshanks
    Emphatically no! The bolt-ons are in reference to the breast implants that She-males have. We must also include the ones that have hormone induced breasts as well. My good Longshanks, WHATEVER a woman does to a man is HETEROSEXUAL! Be it Aneros, pegging, etc. If your girlfriend is a loving and an active participant in your anal play, you are indeed a fortunate man.
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 146
    I don't really believe a piece of plastic can change your sexual proclivity, possibly it could at say 10-14 years old, it wouldn't change it, but I think at that age boys are malleable. They say all women are bisexual but men are pretty much fixed after a certain age
    And if Aneros has the potential to change your sexuality why stop at homosexuality?
    One day after using the Aneros you might discover the urge to stick your penis somewhere VERY illegal, homosexuality is so old hat these days. Unless you live in Saudi Arabia saying Aneros turns you into a homosexual isn't riskee. How about Aneros changes you into a pedophile and makes you wanna jerkoff babies?
  • My pet peeve is men who say they are straight who have to put a label on everyone else's sexuality, see gay recruitment everywhere, see straight men as a harassed minority, think their thinking about sexuality is so important and obviously the correct one, and have to share their opinion frequently. Always makes me wonder if they have some hidden questions about their sexuality or some sexual abuse in their past. I'm talking in general here, not about anyone in particular.

    The original poll qiestion was about men's experience with aneros opening up other possibilities with their sexuality, not about recruitment, not about pigeon holing anyone. That's just hijacking the topic IMO. I let each man define their own identity, much cleaner that way.
  • Why was the purpose of OP's question? Is not the poll an inquiry as to whether the Aneros can change one's sexual orientation? This has nothing to do with labeling. It's odd when one questions certain things, one is deemed HOMOPHOBIC or CLOSETED. One's sexuality is one's sexuality, as well as one's business. Why would ass play mean a straight man is open to being with a man?

    What is being implied is that a TRULY STRAIGHT MAN CANNOT PLAY WITH HIS ASS WITHOUT SECRETLY YEARNING TO BE WITH A MAN (with or without tits). Is this not true? That's why some become highly miffed if a man enjoys pegging. They cannot grasp why he would not want to try a man's penis.

    The matter was summed up concisely by @Ehm.
  • You see that implication, I see another. That's all! Everyone can have their own implications here. Its when someone says that their implication is the only one that I wonder why.
  • Okay okay, let ole Uncle Hopeful fix everything. My unsolicited two cents is, as I become a further pissed off cynical libertarian politically because all politicians are all just shit with very few exceptions, I've become such a relativist... At least more than I've ever been. Now I don't go as far tilt as some on both sides do, sorry, there isn't always nuance or shades of gray in everything.

    This journey however, is full of nuances both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid. (Surely someone will get the reference.) I never really had gay tendencies before this, from never watching or liking gay porn to being attracted to men or their respective packages. Now I'm pretty sure my TGirl interest started before this and well yeah, maybe they were \  are a proxy for men. But I can even excuse that and say, at least to me, as a fan of the backdoor and it's play with women, I was led to REALLY like the very feminine TGirls... From their great fakies, smooth bodies, asses that you just want to stuff your face in for an hour, A N D that the rear door play is pretty much guaranteed, I just fell in love!

    However, this journey has really opened my eyes to a whole new world, one in which I have yet to partake in personally as I tend to be conservative in that regard. Trust me I'm dirty, but I've only ever wanted to be dirty with my wife, someone I love and that I can explore that whole world with. BUT, I am watching gay porn now and liking it. By and large, while in the midst of being unable to even lift my head up from the paralyzing pleasure I'm recently experiencing, if one of those hot bodied dudes beamed into my room I'm gonna be honest, I really don't know what I'd do. (Assuming, you know, if he wanted to do anything and wasn't confused or scared.)

    But I'm not actively seeking men or am attracted to them. To me, when done right, good God, the female body is absolute art designed by God Himself. There are some I find so astounding, so exquisite, that it's a wonder they're even real. The looks they give, their smell, the way they move, and the ones that are passionate in life and sex? Again, absolute perfection. (And since we're all pretty honest around here, here's a weird desire of mine... I kinda wish they didn't have to poo. Not just because of my fondness of their rear ports, but because of all those words I just mashed up together to make a few sentences... Farting too, definitely not a fan on a few levels.)

    Anyway, this went in a weird direction and I'm tired, but hopefully I made some kind of cogent point. Boys, this journey, it's all relative. Our sexuality, as much as I roll my eyes at the 83 friggin versions of gender and sex and this and that that is now all the rage with the kiddies, again, it's relative, that I know for sure.


  • Uncle Hopeful, life sometimes goes in a weird direction :-)
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 146
    It seems to be the rage today, at least in Western societies, that homosexuality isn't a disease that it is just a sexual orientation....and I completely agree but then if you make the same claim about pedophilia people(even gays) get angry, I find this strange. If the reaction is based on how repulsive you find the idea...I think that's the reason homosexuality has been illegal for a long time coz the majority found the idea so repulsive...and as a heterosexual I'm still undecided which image I'd find more repulsive. I think it depends on what age one would consider something pedophilia and this isn't determined by the onset of puberty or the age at which they have sexual thoughts and desires but more arbitrarily <18 years old because under that age there is no judicial approval even if there's consent.
    Now a woman's sluttiness is a major factor in what I find arousing about a woman more so than looks. Now what if I saw a girl/woman <18 years who was begging to be fucked and extremely horny or a man sucking another man's cock. The politically correct view is that it would be less offensive to see a man sucking another man's cock than to see an extremely horny slutty babe <18 begging to be fucked.

    At one point all homosexuality was illegal and the age wasn't so much a big thing and feminism has made adult consent a strange thing anyway, like if you lie about how much money you've got and you have sex with a woman and she finds out you lied she can charge you with rape. And yes I'm a heterosexual but when you see a woman's adult consent tied up with money I can understand the predicament of pedophiles all the better. You don't have a choice in the matter what you're attracted to.

    Also I wonder how far the politically correct heterosexuals are willing to go for example if can be proven that men are indeed malleable at a certain brief period of puberty. If you're truly accepting of homosexuality would you allow your children to become bisexual?Would you allow adolescents to use the Aneros or actually stimulate so homosexuality would become widespread and completely accepted?


  • BunkBunk
    Posts: 164
    So when it's homosexuality:-
    "If you're truly accepting of homosexuality would you allow your children to become bisexual".
    But when it's pedeophilia:-
    "You don't have a choice in the matter what you're attracted to".
    @Ehm. Do you realize what you appear to be implying here..?
  • isvaraisvara
    Posts: 870
    @Ehm, thank you for adding depth to the thread.
    Perhaps the knowledge of the ancients arose due more wisdom less moral confusion.
    Sure people got hurt but more so today.
    A New Zealand Baptist pastor wrote ".. A righteous government would put all homosexuals to death" see 'West Australian' newspaper 9 Dec 14 World news section.
  • @euphemistic - You could chisel that in granite from God's own kitchen counter!
  • Ehm said:

    It seems to be the rage today, at least in Western societies, that homosexuality isn't a disease that it is just a sexual orientation....and I completely agree but then if you make the same claim about pedophilia people(even gays) get angry, I find this strange.




    Whaaaaat?  @Ehm, it has to do with consent!  What do you mean "Even Gays get angry?" We, as a society, have a duty to protect children.  Children can't give consent because they are not mature enough to do so! No matter how much they think they are. You as an adult, should not be persuaded by a child but to help protect them and to help them make better decisions!

    Homosexuality is natural. It occurs in many aspects of the animal kingdom, no matter how much it may offend heterosexuals. BTW, I am a heterosexual, I'm not attracted to men. I used to find it offensive but I grew up!  I still find it odd, but that's only because I don't find men sexually attractive! Just like I find ingesting brains or organ meats odd because it does not appeal to me.

  • Ehm said:


    "At one point all homosexuality was illegal and the age wasn't so much a big thing and feminism has made adult consent a strange thing anyway, like if you lie about how much money you've got and you have sex with a woman and she finds out you lied she can charge you with rape. And yes I'm a heterosexual but when you see a woman's adult consent tied up with money I can understand the predicament of pedophiles all the better. You don't have a choice in the matter what you're attracted to."




    @EHM, WTF.........., if you are charged with rape for lying about money, she is lying!!!  That can happen to any person anyway. It doesn't make it right.  How does this help you to understand the predicament of pedophiles????
  • Just to be clear, yes pedophilia is about a young person's inability to give consent to sex with a older person, not about a sexual attraction between adults. Pedophilia is a crime and a psychiatric disorder. The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual. Therefore, @ehm, the more accurate statement would be "even straight men get angry over pedophilia." Pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality. A few homosexuals and a few heterosexuals advocate for pedophiles as a legitimate sexual orientation but I strongly disagree with them. See http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths.
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 575
    @euphemistic
    I am sorry, but this is nonsense. Pedophiles are not mainly attracted to adults of other sex (i.e. heterosexuals) nor adults of same sex (i.e. homosexuals), they are mainly attraced to children (with usually little regard for gender). This three categories are either undefined (no real preference) or mutually exclusive.

    Now the question of which of these sexual orientations constitute a psychiatric disorder or not (if any of this could be proven) is a totally different subject and a dodgy one.

    What @Ehm wrote is at times a bit unrefined but mostly interesting to consider. People tend to hide everything that makes them uneasy under the carpet. Nature doesn't care for our insecurities.
  • Canacan said:

    @euphemistic
    I am sorry, but this is nonsense. Pedophiles are not mainly attracted to adults of other sex (i.e. heterosexuals) nor adults of same sex (i.e. homosexuals), they are mainly attraced to children (with usually little regard for gender). This three categories are either undefined (no real preference) or mutually exclusive.

    Now the question of which of these sexual orientations constitute a psychiatric disorder or not (if any of this could be proven) is a totally different subject and a dodgy one.

    What @Ehm wrote is at times a bit unrefined but mostly interesting to consider. People tend to hide everything that makes them uneasy under the carpet. Nature doesn't care for our insecurities.



    @Canacun,

    I would argue that what you are spouting is complete nonsense! Pedophiles are mostly men while the victims are mostly boys. Pedophilia is an attack. It has ruined many lives. It is primarily having power over another human being! It is rape.  Are you next going to sympathize with rapists?

    This Thread has deteriorated into justifying an atrocity against children. It has become nauseating! I, for one, will no longer be following this thread. Pedophilia is not a societal insecurity. That is complete and utter nonsense. 

  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 575


    @Canacun,

    I would argue that what you are spouting is complete nonsense! Pedophiles are mostly men while the victims are mostly boys. Pedophilia is an attack. It has ruined many lives. It is primarily having power over another human being! It is rape.  Are you next going to sympathize with rapists?

    This Thread has deteriorated into justifying an atrocity against children. It has become nauseating! I, for one, will no longer be following this thread. Pedophilia is not a societal insecurity. That is complete and utter nonsense. 



    Interesting case of quiproquo.

    First, I was calling something nonsense, not in a confrontational spirit but in a friendly one, for Euph and I are friends (even though we strongly disagree on some other friendships).

    Second, I didn't advocate for nor sympathise with anybody here. Mainly trying to answer the "pedophiles are not gay because they are mostly straight"... Which is both based on wrong numbers and simply nonsensical.

    Third, I will have to disagree with you on the "victims being mostly boys". Statistics indicate otherwise, even when trying to substract incest (which often seems not associated with pedophilia even though the act is the same). But on most declared or suspected pedophiles being men, numbers would say you're right.

    If that need be said: i condemn every act of pedophilia.

    I'd be interested to understand what induced these misunderstandings.
  • @Canacun,

     

    Sorry if I misunderstood. I guess I was still emotional about some of @Ehm's comments. I thought you were supporting his theories.

     

    If that is not the case, my sincerest apologies!

     

    I'll see if I can dig up some stats on the boy/girl victims!

     

    -LS

  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 575
    @Longshanks

    You might want to read that (goes with links to sources) :
    http://individual.utoronto.ca/james_cantor/blog1.html
  • Canacan said:

    @euphemistic
    I am sorry, but this is nonsense. Pedophiles are not mainly attracted to adults of other sex (i.e. heterosexuals) nor adults of same sex (i.e. homosexuals), they are mainly attraced to children (with usually little regard for gender).






    @canacan, children have genders and pedophiles tend to prefer children of one gender over the other and identity themselves as heterosexual or homosexual. I was trying to clarify a common slur against homosexuals that got lumped in this thread. I agree with you on the rest. I regret how this thread has gotten hijacked. Pedophilia is a hot button issue.

    http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 575
    @euphemistic I'd be interested to have your opinion on the article I linked.

    P.S. : I must confess I didn't find the webmd link you posted very convincing. Makes it sound like somebody has the definite answer and it is short and simple... Sorry not to me. Also pedophilia at age 13? We have all known girls who already had adult bodies at that age. But I noted a sensible comment in the end : pedophiles might lie about their sexuality to seem a little less alien.
  • Canacan said:

    @euphemistic I'd be interested to have your opinion on the article I linked.



    Interesting, Cantor was my reference too :)

    it's indeed a complex hot button issue.The article doesn't contradict anything I've written. As I said I regret that pedophilia was dumped into this already muddied thread. I won't have anything more to say about it.
  • J2_0J2_0
    Posts: 23
    How many straight men who use Aneros have become curious about or interested in gay sex or gay porn?

    Stop the madness, perhaps we can agree that for some guys the experience of using the Aneros devices and having your prostrate stimulated can be a real game changer. I use to be a card carrying homophobe until my eyes were opened by the use of the Aneros devices stroking my prostate.

    The Macho men have nothing to fear about turning “gay” (what ever that label means) if they chose not to, nor do they have to worry about gay guys hitting on them or trying to flip them if they don't want to. Also a very in-depth study reports approximately 30% of gay guys have anal sex, so Mr. Macho man who is not having anal sex you just might be gay :)

    Now keep in mind your sexual status can change based on your experiences. No new experiences no sexual status changes.

    Relax and enjoy, whether the Aneros experience peaks a new interest or not is entirely up to you but I will not deny that it impacted me!