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My theory on how prostate play really functions.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    Let me start this by saying this is my working theory. This is not based on a wealth of tests and evidence from multiple users. But feel free to chime in and help me with this.

    So my theory is that, by doing prostate play like using the Aneros, you actually have an aware session with you subconscious. Or through it to your prostate, as you will figure out later in this post. This means that you can trigger responses that are usually only controlled by your subconscious.

    Examples of this is happening:
    Raised pulse.
    Neurons firing.
    Uncontrolled manouvers by your body (like ticks and spasms)
    Muscles tensing up.
    Producing hormones.

    Now.. how did I come to realise that we were (might be) connecting with our own subconscious?
    I was pondering why time actually seemed to fly while playing with the aneros after I had a 6-7 hour session with the progasm a couple of days ago. I didn`t get hungry, I felt relaxed afterwards even though my body had been working / tensing up. But most of all, that the session seemed more like a one hour session.

    When you sleep, you disconnect your consciousness to let your brain relax (as well as your body). No consciousness means no real feeling of time, so a nights sleep seems way shorter than being awake for the same duration of time. And when you really connect with your subconscious during an aneros session it`s more like being in a dream where you are aware, but not aware enough to recognize the time that goes by.

    With that said...

    I`ve studied the field of hypnosis for a few years  on a hobby-basis, and know a bit about how this works by "communicating" with the subjects subconscious. It has also been proven by actually getting a subject to have a different pulse on the right arm compared to the left arm. I won`t even go into how dangerous this experiment really was, and the physical aspects of how this is actually possible since everybody thinks your pulse in the lower arm is "only the feeling from you blood being pumped out there by your heart". To put it simply, they had to make the tiny muscles in one arm work in a different rythm. And this was achievable even though it`s a subconscious control. You can also to some extent control your heart-rate by you consciousness, but usually only by breathing slower - and breathing is actually a subconscious process that you can also control consciously.

    And given the amount of data and pre-programmed responses to stimuli that your subconscious controls this opens a huge world of things you can re-program. You`re prostate is one of them - and I do believe this is what us aneros users call "to awaken the prostate".

    The thought many, as I, have had and proposed is:
    The G-spot is like the prostate, or more specifically - what "IS" your g-spot until you`re a few weeks old becomes the prostate.And maybe the clit being where your pernium is later located isn`t that far fetched either. 

    The biggest difference between males and females seem to be that the G-spot is more prone to direct stimuly while the prostate (even after awakened) still needs to be connected to by working with the subconscious. Direct stimuly isn`t enough to go "all the way" to a Super-O.
    The simple explanation for this could be that the physical seperation between the male gender and female gender that takes place after a few weeks alters our state - that is why we need to use our subconscious to trigger it. Our sex is after all determined when our XY sperm enters the XX female eggcell.

    - In conclusion - 
    I hope this can put things into perspective for other people that simply wouldn`t accept anything other than: "the prrostate needs direct stimuly". I also used to believe this. Until I found that the reactions my body had to the anerosplay - were taken to a whole other level by concentration, disconnecting the awareness of my surroundings or meditation - if you will. 

    I think many people will now see pieces of the puzzle fall into place. Things like:

    1. Aneros users using meditation to get to the super-O.
    2. Not actually actively moving the aneros very much when super-Oing.
    3. A style of letting the super-O take you, and not trying to take it yourself. (Consciously being to active in giving the aneros movement actually stops it from happening).
    4. Why awaking the prostate is a process.


    Feel free to comment and discuss, this is after all the greatest forum in the world as we know it :)

    Alex

    Ps. I might edit this post with more information at a later time. Hard to cover everything, and anything but the basics of the theory. And I expect the spellingnazis to have a field day with this one. Keep in mind it`s 3.45 AM where I`m at. And I just had an 11hr drive.

    Don`t forget to read these two posts in this thread:



  • Gilman
    Posts: 53
    Your theory explains the importance of the mind in successful Aneros sessions. I have long believed it is more between the ears than between the cheeks.

    It also addresses why many folks claim marijuana and it's mind altering internally focusing effects really move things along.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    Gilman said:

    Your theory explains the importance of the mind in successful Aneros sessions. I have long believed it is more between the ears than between the cheeks.

    It also addresses why many folks claim marijuana and it's mind altering internally focusing effects really move things along.



    I find the marijuhana claim and possible "mind altering" connection plausible as well, but can`t really say for sure as I`ve never tried it myself. It`s on my bucketlist...
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 624
    Hi @Alex_xxx,

    Your theory is a masterpiece and I need to study it thoroughly.

    I am getting to the point in my Aneros sessions that now I often into an Aneros trance. When that happens, anything happens. I let go and let my Aneros Team take me where whether they take me. I go into my sessions with the object of having lots of fun and pleasure.

    Thom./BigGlansDC 
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    Alex_xxx,

    I think you've re-opened a topic which has been discussed numerous times in the past. Most recently in @rikaaim 's thread Aneros: The Essential Mind State. Essentially, Aneros use to get into the Super-O zone requires one to enter an altered state of consciousness and likewise the Super-O induces another altered state of consciousness. This was also touched upon in a very good discussion which took place about 8 years ago in 'zaneblue's thread Automatic Tantra

    Whilst it is true you can alter for a short time through subconscious suggestion (hypnotism) heart rates, blood pressure, breathing etc. there are finite limits to the degree of control and duration of these changes. Your body will return to its normal patterns rather quickly and you will not accept suggestions which would inherently injure or damage the body, like completely stopping your heart from beating or stop breathing for minutes at a time. Likewise, your prostate is not really being re-programmed, it is your mind being re-programmed by you to perceive sensations more readily through focused attention. This is an example of the neuroplasticity of the brain to literally "rewire" itself to effect behavioral changes.
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  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402

    The topic might be somewhat in the same category as the threads you linked to - but FAR from what I have proposed. Also, I never wrote that it is your prostate that is being rewired, I suggest you read my entire post again.

    I don`t see that any of theese threads have connected the dots and gone to the  lengths of explaining this in a scientific way that doesn`t involve people using diffuse chakra and tantra explenations.

    Quote: "it is your mind being re-programmed by you to perceive sensations more readily through focused attention."

    I do NOT propose that you are reprogramming your mind. Your mind is your consious state, you are only learning. What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level saying that this is no longer your G-spot and you are not supposed to get any of the G-spot like feelings from it. I DO suggest that you CAN enter into a SUBCONSIOUS aware state (subconsious awareness like controlling a dream) to find your connection to what the prostate controls or was supposed to control if you were a female.

    Neither do I propose that you need an altered state of consiousness.

    What I am suggesting is that you`re connecting to your subconsious which can then connect to a subconsiously controlled prostate. Needing the subconsious to connect to the prostate is because of two things:

    1. The prostate is subconsiously controlled (and reacts to stimuly to provide people with relief of BMs).
    2. IF the prostate is the male version of what should have become the female G-spot, then the process of becoming a physical man will have totally disconnected your prostate. You need your subconsious to reconnect this connection (easy description).


    Other than that, the threads were only so-so interesting, and Zaneblue (automatic tantra) is a female having female orgasms - and has nothing to do with your prostate. It`s aldready clear in the first post of the thread.

    And this thread "Aneros: the essential mind state" does NO explaining whatsoever about what happens and how it can be like that, and no scientific examples it just says that "this works for me". That does not propose a working theory..

    I want this thread to have more of an scientific approach and not be explained by unexplainable "ying/yang" things.

    What my theory MIGHT also explain to you - if you understand where I`m going with it - is an explanation on HOW and WHY people can remember "former lives" during Ultra-deep hypnosis - and there actually being such a person in history is proven. But I propose that you weren`t really reincarnated (I don`t believe that stuff). I am saying that you through hypnosis communicate with your subconsious that then again has the tools to read some of the memories from your grand-grand-grand-grand-grand father stored in your DNA. This is what makes the basis of what we later percieve as instinct.

    If we could only tap into the subconsious in a simple way we could read history of evolution waaaaaaaay back in time (as long as some information hasn`t been overwritten). :)
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 829
    Your brain rewiring and neuroplasticity is not ying/yang is it?  I have read of numerous accounts of the brain doing amazing things for people who have had amputations feeling sensations on other parts of their bodies, paraplegics/quadriplegics who can have orgasms and such all while being conscious.  Your theory on the subconscious part is interesting though as i have dabbled in hypnosis myself.  I have never had any success at it though.  I also agree that hypnosis will not work if you dont agree with or desire the information in hypnosis as it cannot be forced upon you in that way.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402

    Hi @Alex_xxx,


    Your theory is a masterpiece and I need to study it thoroughly.

    I am getting to the point in my Aneros sessions that now I often into an Aneros trance. When that happens, anything happens. I let go and let my Aneros Team take me where whether they take me. I go into my sessions with the object of having lots of fun and pleasure.

    Thom./BigGlansDC 


    Cool! Sounds interesting, never been there myself :)
    And thank you BGDC!
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402

    Your brain rewiring and neuroplasticity is not ying/yang is it?  I have read of numerous accounts of the brain doing amazing things for people who have had amputations feeling sensations on other parts of their bodies, paraplegics/quadriplegics who can have orgasms and such all while being conscious.  Your theory on the subconscious part is interesting though as i have dabbled in hypnosis myself.  I have never had any success at it though.  I also agree that hypnosis will not work if you dont agree with or desire the information in hypnosis as it cannot be forced upon you in that way.



    Nope, what I mean by Ying Yang is the stuff about there always having to be positive and negative, one person breathing out and the other person breathing it in shares energy etc. etc. energy here and energy there, healing by thought, telekinesis and things like that.

    I totally agree with you about the power of the mind though. Will and belief can "regulate" your body to do things (the subconsious level regulates the body) that really are amazing. This is proven by the placebo effect. Like totally killing cancer.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    Alex_xxx,

    It is not my desire to begin a contentious dialogue with you. Pedantically dissecting flawed logic, unsubstantiated statements, spelling and grammatical errors is going to accomplish nothing and would only be a waste of time. Let's just agree to disagree and let it go at that, the membership can and will determine the veracity of our statements on their own.
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  • isvara
    Posts: 570
    @Alex_xxx
    I like the way you are going with this. It helps to have another detailed 'theory of everything' view on the adjustment process. I might understand things slightly differently but this have given me opportunity for some serious thinking. It seems to describe my adjustment (rewire) process, slow but incremental. Your post has accelerated some nice changes, with the help of Progasm Jr.
  • diem
    Posts: 31
    Alex_xxx,

    "What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level"

    Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    If you have interest in neuroscience, study. When you will understand in the first place how the body work and how little we know, you might be able to formulate theory based on real and proved facts, not by fruits of your imagination.
  • impimp
    Posts: 72
    Alex_xxx said:

    Let me start this by saying this is my working theory. This is not based on a wealth of tests and evidence from multiple users. But feel free to chime in and help me with this.

    In other words this is all based upon nothing more than opinion, OK I got it.
    Alex_xxx said:

    So my theory is that, by doing prostate play like using the Aneros, you actually have an aware session with you unconsious. Or through it to your prostate, as you will figure out later in this post. This means that you can trigger responses that are usually only controlled by your unconsious.

    Huh? An "...aware session with your unconsious." What the heck does that mean? The spellingnazi's are holding a gun to my head to point out that you could have used the built in spellcheck feature to correct the erroneous spelling for unconscious. It doesn't matter though because unconscious doesn't control anything it is merely a state of being, i.e. unconscious = not conscious. Now the subconscious on the other hand, well,  that's active and influencing our behaviors 24/7 but even that does not control the autonomic nervous system.
    Alex_xxx said:

    - and breathing is actually a subconsious process that you can also control consiously.

    Wow, scientific breakthrough, all those people who want to commit suicide can just suffocate themselves by consciously stopping their breathing, that would put an end to a lot of messy 'ends'.
    Alex_xxx said:

    And given the amount of data and pre-programmed responses to stimuli that your subconsious controls this opens a huge world of things you can re-program. You`re prostate is one of them - and I do believe this is what us aneros users call "to awaken the prostate".

    OK, where's the data? What pre-programmed responses? What type of stimulation? I would like to see any evidence for this, has anyone been able to reprogram the heart to perform a different function other than pump blood or the prostate to perform a different function like breathing? I think not. Come on Alex, get real.
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 569
    Calm down, guys! The truth is that nobody really knows how this all works, but it's certainly fun doing the research. ;)
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    isvara said:

    @Alex_xxx
    I like the way you are going with this. It helps to have another detailed 'theory of everything' view on the adjustment process. I might understand things slightly differently but this have given me opportunity for some serious thinking. It seems to describe my adjustment (rewire) process, slow but incremental. Your post has accelerated some nice changes, with the help of Progasm Jr.



    Thankyou! Feel free to say how you see how it works. Since there is no real studies being done on the subject it`s up to everyone to bring their explanations. Like every good doctor asks you how you feel and experience your illness/problems we should really consider what WE think is going on. This field is, in my opinion, a field that is still unexplained by science - and therefore not proven.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    diem said:

    Alex_xxx,

    "What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level"

    Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    If you have interest in neuroscience, study. When you will understand in the first place how the body work and how little we know, you might be able to formulate theory based on real and proved facts, not by fruits of your imagination.



    Well.. we`re all entitled to our own theories and opinions. If we were only to rely on proven facts then there would be no theories to prove or disprove. As for "harebrained" - I decided to let you rot in your own rude behaviour instead of engaging in meaningless hackery with you.

    If you think you know better I challenge you to disprove my theory, starting with my quote. I based this upon my theory of how we are able to inherit instinct. It`s implemented in our DNA, based on that - our memories must be some extent be stored in our DNA. Otherwise there would be no evolution. Just look at the crocodiles, what`s the first thing they do?
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    imp said:

    Alex_xxx said:

    Let me start this by saying this is my working theory. This is not based on a wealth of tests and evidence from multiple users. But feel free to chime in and help me with this.

    In other words this is all based upon nothing more than opinion, OK I got it.
    Alex_xxx said:

    So my theory is that, by doing prostate play like using the Aneros, you actually have an aware session with you unconsious. Or through it to your prostate, as you will figure out later in this post. This means that you can trigger responses that are usually only controlled by your unconsious.

    Huh? An "...aware session with your unconsious." What the heck does that mean? The spellingnazi's are holding a gun to my head to point out that you could have used the built in spellcheck feature to correct the erroneous spelling for unconscious. It doesn't matter though because unconscious doesn't control anything it is merely a state of being, i.e. unconscious = not conscious. Now the subconscious on the other hand, well,  that's active and influencing our behaviors 24/7 but even that does not control the autonomic nervous system.
    Alex_xxx said:

    - and breathing is actually a subconsious process that you can also control consiously.

    Wow, scientific breakthrough, all those people who want to commit suicide can just suffocate themselves by consciously stopping their breathing, that would put an end to a lot of messy 'ends'.
    Alex_xxx said:

    And given the amount of data and pre-programmed responses to stimuli that your subconsious controls this opens a huge world of things you can re-program. You`re prostate is one of them - and I do believe this is what us aneros users call "to awaken the prostate".

    OK, where's the data? What pre-programmed responses? What type of stimulation? I would like to see any evidence for this, has anyone been able to reprogram the heart to perform a different function other than pump blood or the prostate to perform a different function like breathing? I think not. Come on Alex, get real.


    1. Yup, you got it.
    2. It was indeed supposed to say subconsious - good thing you understood that......
    3. You cut the sentence to early. The amount of data I refer to is everything you store in your brain conscious and subconscsious. Pre programmed responses of the subconscious i.e. if you burn yourself on your finger your hand withdraws it. If you get scared your subconscious tells your adrenal gland to go to work. And you misunderstand - I`m not saying we can reprogram one bodypart to do something it might not have been designed to do. With that said, you probably already know wich parts of your body that infact could have been a girls ovaries if your cromosones ended up being a double X instead.

    I don`t use spellchecks, simply because I feel I learn better english not using it. I`d like to see how well you write Norwegian though  - even with a spellcheck :)
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    twlltin said:

    Calm down, guys! The truth is that nobody really knows how this all works, but it's certainly fun doing the research. ;)



    GOLD MEDAL!!! :) Smartest reply of the day!
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    @Rumel

    Yup, some disagreement is bound to happen as long as there is no proven fact on how this really works. 
    All I can say is that I made my own theory on this subject/field based on my own knowledge of how the human body works, how it develops from conception and how evolution has created/affected us.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    Has anyone else noticed that time goes by unreasonably fast while anerosing? More so than what it does when your spanking the good ol` monkey?

    And to everyone here... I`m expecting people to disagree with me. I don`t feel bad if you do, you are all entitled to your own opinion/theory based on your own knowledge and experiences. People choose what they want to believe based on all kinds of things - I don`t want to change your beliefs. 
    I only want to share my theory of how it works so that, maybe, someone may benefit from it - or at a later time use it :)

    Alex
  • isvara
    Posts: 570
    I am quite surprised by the response to Alex_xxx search for answers. It has been said elsewhere on other topics that if the subject is 'annoying' don't read or respond to it. I don't quite see it the way he does, I have little knowledge of the various level of human consciousness but I do feel there is a deep mind that hold me in this dimension of time and space. I also feel there is a closer mind that influences and interprets my life in such a way that I can live it. Now with this post I feel that it is possible to open the gateway a little and allow the deep mind to add extra quality to my life. It has also occurred to me that any orgasm is an altered state of consciousness and that is why we can move to easily back into our non orgasmic life. So to my old mind it seems as if one can actually move into a deeper orgasmic state. So this is why I am enjoying this particular post.
  • GoodVib
    Posts: 27
    Indeed, indeed. In the 50's science could prove bumblebees were incapable of flight. Doctors today get interested when we tell of Benifits of aneros, without drugs & surgery, it seems they've forgotten the old ways. Leaches were in then out and now coming back for certain Benifits. We know something good is happening, okay so maybe some of the details aren't clear as to why/how it all works. I love a good mystery, especially this one. I'm gonna stick around till we figure it all out! I hope it takes a long time, what a great ride!
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 829
    I'm kinda suprised by all the negative feedback on this thread.  Whether you agree with the OP or not there is no need for others to get all upset.  As @isvara said if its not your thing dont respond, but i would hate for this place to become a forum where someone is afraid to post something in fear that people are going to jump all over them and make fun of them.  I'm not sure where everyone is from, but im from The United States of America where we pride ourselves in sticking up for everyone having their say, their voice being heard whether we agree with it or not!  So lets be civil to one another and as my grandmother used to say, if you aint got nothing nice to say.......well you know the rest lol.
  • @Alex_xxx

    I find your original OP very interesting.  It's all I've had time to read for now.  I do appreciate the approach you are taking.  I find a great scientific mind valuable.  You're not content with the, "We don't know the answer in the gap, let's fill in the bridge with . . . (insert theory)".  At this time, I really have nothing further to add to expand on the original OP.  I will do so when I have more time.

    I have to say though, that your link between subconscious and hypnosis to control and understand certain aspects intrigues me.  To say that a conscious re-wirring is not the answer may be true, but I also feel there is merit to conditioning.  I am 100 percent sure that with enough time, I can condition my girl to have an orgasm by mere vocal command.  I have done so in the past with another.  Is this conscious or subconscious?  It is a hard call for me to make, especially since I can tell her exactly what I'm doing, and using the proper technique, it will still work.  I liken this conditioning aspect to a similar, albeit different, type of hypnosis.  I understand it's not an exact parallel.  I'm simply saying that two techniques can be used to achieve results in certain elements.  If that's making any sense.

    One other thought, in the book Radical Ecstasy, Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy explain a concept of "forever space".  They describe that when orgasmic peaks and valleys occur at regular intervals, we become so absorbed in the sensations and heightened awareness of our own pleasure that all time and outside matter seems to dissolve.  When the focus is so intense on ourselves and our lovers, nothing else seems to matter.  Since this pleasure can last for hours, the perception of time seems to detach.  I believe this is why you feel that a 6 hour session feels like an hour.  I've had this happen as well.  I've been in the midst of a 3 hour session, but all I remember are the orgasms.  Easton and Hardy also mention that when they are together, and their sessions lead them to the forever space, that they have to make a conscious choice to return from the forever space.  After all, it feels so good, why would anyone want to return to a world of stress and bills and other such matters?  Much as there is a journey to get to that space, there is a cooling down of sorts to return.  It is a choice that has to be in at the very least conscious awareness.

    Again, when I have more time to reflect and read more responses, I would be glad to share and enjoy in this conversation.

  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 372
    Interesting theory, Alex, and ambitious. And like any theory, needs to be peer reviewed, criticized, and revised with facts. Only you can revise your own theory and still claim it as yours, Alex, so I suggest that you consider respectfully any contrary facts that others may offer to help you and not dismiss them without analyzing them thoroughly in this forum that you've chosen. There is a difference between theory and proven facts. You can choose your theory but you can't choose your facts.

    I've also noticed the trance like quality of some aneros sessions sessions that you mention, and called them alterred states and feeling lost in an erotic dream, especially after my 4th and 5th hour. I suggest reading Trances People Live - Healing Approac hs in Quantum Psychology by Steven Wolinski. He theorized that people go in and out of trances all the time, and aren't usually aware of this. He gives the example of watching a bunny and swooning into a trance for a moment. He theorized that there are degrees of the trance state from the bunny trance to deep hypnosis and we can teach ourselves to be aware of this phenomenon and use it to our advantage.

    You then say:

    "1. The prostate is subconsiously controlled (and reacts to stimuly to provide people with relief of BMs)."

    Firstly, I believe that the control of our BMs is learned at an early age during toilet training, and only later becomes subconscious.

    I don't agree that the prostate is ONLY controlled by the subconscious as the article Understanding Your Body referenced here in another post, makes clear: " The neural bundle that is responsible for arousal and orgasm passes directly across and is adhered to the surface of the prostate. So in this sense it is not the gland itself that produces orgasm, it is the nerves."

    It's the relationship between our nervous system around the perineum and prostate and other pleasure centers, and our mind that makes this kind of orgasm possible. I agree that our minds are the essential factor here but not the only factor. The aneros device assists with the stimulation of the nerves along with other erotic sensory input that we have learned turns us on, all somehow seem to sometimes result in a super O or other O. One theory stated here is that we can train our subconscious mind to recognize these signals, identify them with the super O, and then reproduce them eventually at will, just like learning to hold and choose when to evacuate a BM.

    I agree that the prostate is influenced by our autonomic nervous system, and perhaps can come under subconscious control as you suggest but it's the brain's/mind's learning of the stimulus/response connections, assisted by the aneros training wheels, that may shape our subconscious mind. IMO the trance part that you refer to, is only an alterred state of consciousness leading up to the orgasm, reliably produced by the factors I've listed above, and then learned by our subconscious mind

    You go on to say " IF the prostate is the male version of what should have become the female G-spot, then the process of becoming a physical man will have totally disconnected your prostate." This is a BIG if. Where did you hear this?

    And about the subconscious altering DNA, again where is your proof?

    As for other respondents to your posts and those criticizing it, didn't you yourself welcome the criticism and isn't that what this forum is for? Or is it for only agreement?
  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 372
    And as for memories of past lives recovered through hypnotic regression, there is no proof of this. I have friends who have undergone hypnotic regression and discovered what they believed were past lives and I happen to believe them. But that's a long way from me saying that hypnotic regression is a scientific tool and past lives are real. Remember the Satanic Ritual abuse scare of a few years ago which began with a few social workers putting school children under hypnosis and planting all kinds of suggestions that were taken seriously by the Media and courts until it was all debunked.

    When you wrote about the unconscious recording past lives and earlier forms of life like amphibians, I assume you're referring to Jung's concept of the Unconscious (Jung always capitalized the Unconscious) which corresponds to the Akashic record, and not Freud's unconscious which was more limited. While I have read almost everything that Jung has written, I do not take everything he said as fact and neither should you. There is no evidence that that t he unconscious mind has recorded the unproven assumption that men's prostate was once a woman's vagina. 

  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 402
    rikaaim said:

    I find your original OP very interesting.  It's all I've had time to read for now.  I do appreciate the approach you are taking.  I find a great scientific mind valuable.  You're not content with the, "We don't know the answer in the gap, let's fill in the bridge with . . . (insert theory)".  At this time, I really have nothing further to add to expand on the original OP.  I will do so when I have more time.

    I have to say though, that your link between subconscious and hypnosis to control and understand certain aspects intrigues me.  To say that a conscious re-wirring is not the answer may be true, but I also feel there is merit to conditioning.  I am 100 percent sure that with enough time, I can condition my girl to have an orgasm by mere vocal command.  I have done so in the past with another.  Is this conscious or subconscious?  It is a hard call for me to make, especially since I can tell her exactly what I'm doing, and using the proper technique, it will still work.  I liken this conditioning aspect to a similar, albeit different, type of hypnosis.  I understand it's not an exact parallel.  I'm simply saying that two techniques can be used to achieve results in certain elements.  If that's making any sense.

    One other thought, in the book Radical Ecstasy, Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy explain a concept of "forever space".  They describe that when orgasmic peaks and valleys occur at regular intervals, we become so absorbed in the sensations and heightened awareness of our own pleasure that all time and outside matter seems to dissolve.  When the focus is so intense on ourselves and our lovers, nothing else seems to matter.  Since this pleasure can last for hours, the perception of time seems to detach.  I believe this is why you feel that a 6 hour session feels like an hour.  I've had this happen as well.  I've been in the midst of a 3 hour session, but all I remember are the orgasms.  Easton and Hardy also mention that when they are together, and their sessions lead them to the forever space, that they have to make a conscious choice to return from the forever space.  After all, it feels so good, why would anyone want to return to a world of stress and bills and other such matters?  Much as there is a journey to get to that space, there is a cooling down of sorts to return.  It is a choice that has to be in at the very least conscious awareness.

    Again, when I have more time to reflect and read more responses, I would be glad to share and enjoy in this conversation.



    Great post! We think alike in alot of aspects. I`ve heard of the voice command orgasms you refer to, and there is alot of different situations you can apply the same "conditioning" to. Have you ever read "the october man"? If not, you should. Send me a PM if you can`t find it.
  • Alex_xxx
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    And as for memories of past lives recovered through hypnotic regression, there is no proof of this. I have friends who have undergone hypnotic regression and discovered what they believed were past lives and I happen to believe them. But that's a long way from me saying that hypnotic regression is a scientific tool and past lives are real. Remember the Satanic Ritual abuse scare of a few years ago which began with a few social workers putting school children under hypnosis and planting all kinds of suggestions that were taken seriously by the Media and courts until it was all debunked.

    When you wrote about the unconscious recording past lives and earlier forms of life like amphibians, I assume you're referring to Jung's concept of the Unconscious (Jung always capitalized the Unconscious) which corresponds to the Akashic record, and not Freud's unconscious which was more limited. While I have read almost everything that Jung has written, I do not take everything he said as fact and neither should you. There is no evidence that that t he unconscious mind has recorded the unproven assumption that men's prostate was once a woman's vagina. 



    I have read some of Jungs works, I actually have his book "Dreams" on my shelf.
    As for instinct and reptiles it was purely a way of conveying that instinct must be some form of memories through evolution stored in our DNA from one generation to another. And what I proposed was that this might be what people are tapping into when doing ultra-deep regression hypnosis.

    There was a show on TV where they investigated alot of cases where people were taken back to "earlier lives" through hypnosis. And to my astonishment, they were able to find houses, people down to great detail being correct from one different peoples detailed description under regression hypnosis.

    It was when pondering this I came up with the theory that the DNA we pass down through the generations may contain detailed information of such memories. Memories that then also will be grounds for instinct. Instinct is after all controlled by the subconsious, and this tells me that the subconsious might be able to tap into our DNA information. So, even though it might be far-fetched, I think this is what`s happening during regression hypnosis. Hypnosis is communicating with the subconsious, and if it`s already able to read memories from the DNA - then why not memories from our grand-grand-grand fathers.

    I always enjoy talking to others who are intrigued by Freud, Jung and such. And I agree, it`s up to us all do dissect the information given in a proper manner.

    Alex
  • Alex_xxx
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    @euphemistic

    Hmm.. read the two post I wrote above this one. And I will later in this post present the latest info done on the G-spot and the Prostate - they are similar, VERY similar - almost down to a button. And along with other information I`m working on I will present how theese parts have been seperated through our first 0-8 weeks in our mothers wombs. Along with other things taking place like the seperation between the ovaries that compares to the male testicles etc.
  • Alex_xxx
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     I don't agree that the prostate is ONLY controlled by the subconscious as the article Understanding Your Body referenced here in another post, makes clear: " The neural bundle that is responsible for arousal and orgasm passes directly across and is adhered to the surface of the prostate. So in this sense it is not the gland itself that produces orgasm, it is the nerves.



    I don`t think I ever wrote that, because I don`t believe so either. I also agree with alot of the information given in the article about the bond between the different nerve bundles/centers and how they work together to produce the orgasm.
  • Alex_xxx
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    Thought I`d post some info on the connection between the male prostate and the female G-spot. Then do a comparison and post some info about fetus development and how these two have come to be known as the male and female prostate.


    The female G-spot


    The urethra runs just above the roof of
    your vaginal canal, kind of like a ceiling pipe, and is surrounded by erectile
    tissue called the urethral sponge, sort of like outer insulation. This sponge
    houses a number of “paraurethral” (meaning near the urethra) and “periurethral”
    (meaning around the urethra) glands and ducts which secrete and expel fluid (or
    female ejaculate) respectively. While the G-spot has never been anatomically
    mapped by a body of medical professionals who can agree, it’s popularly known as
    the part of the urethral sponge which may be felt through the ceiling of the
    vagina, approximately one-third to one-half of the way in — it’s usually an
    oval area or ridge (sometimes called the “G-crest”) about the size of a
    elongated dime or quarter. (However, some consider the G-spot to actually be
    the entire urethral sponge.) 
     



    http://www.emandlo.com/2009/08/what-is-the-g-spot-where-is-the-g-spot-how-does-it-work/



    The Skene's gland, also known as the paraurethral gland, found in females, is homologous to the prostate gland in males. However, anatomically, the uterus is in the same position as the prostate gland. In 2002 the Skene's gland was officially renamed to female prostate by the Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology.[8]

    The female prostate, like the male prostate, secretes PSA and levels of this antigen rise in the presence of carcinoma of the gland. The gland also expels fluid, like the male prostate, during orgasm.[9]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate


    The male prostate

    The prostate gland is a male reproductive organ whose main function is to secrete prostate fluid, one of the components of semen. The muscles of the prostate gland also help propel this seminal fluid into the urethra during ejaculation .

    The prostate is a muscular gland that weighs about three-fourths of an ounce (20 grams) about the size of a small apricot. It surrounds the urethra just beneath the bladder .

    During ejaculation, millions of sperm move from the testes through tubes called the vas deferens into the area of the prostate. At this point, the prostate contracts, closing off the opening between the bladder and the urethra, releasing fluid into the urethra and pushing semen on through.

    http://www.livescience.com/32751-what-does-the-prostate-gland-do.html

     The function of the prostate is to secrete a slightly alkaline fluid, milky or white in appearance,[5] that usually constitutes 50–75% of the volume of the semen along with spermatozoa and seminal vesicle fluid.[5] Semen is made alkaline overall with the secretions from the other contributing glands, including, at least, the seminal vesicle fluid.

    A healthy human prostate is classically said to be slightly larger than a walnut. The mean weight of the "normal" prostate in adult males is about 11 grams, usually ranging between 7 and 16 grams.[10] It surrounds the urethra just below the urinary bladder and can be felt during a rectal exam. It is the only exocrine organ located in the midline in humans and similar animals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate


  • Alex_xxx
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    Fetus development

    During the first few weeks of fetus development, your baby's internal
    and external genital structures are the same, regardless of whether you are
    ultimately going to have a boy or a girl. 




    They have two sets of organs:o ne
    that can develop into the female sex organs (Mullerian duct) and one that can
    develop into the male sex organs (Wolffian ducts). 




    The
    gonads will become ovaries or testicles, the phallus will become a clitoris or
    a penis, and the genital folds will become labia or scrotum. Which sex organs
    develop depends on the presence of the male hormone testosterone (in humans,
    the default sex is female).


    First we have a fetus that has yet to seperate the male and female reproductive organs:



    image




    Completion of the male reproductive organ

    image


    Completion of the female reproductive organ



    image

    http://www.baby2see.com/gender/internal_genitals.html


    The interconnection

    Now you can all see how our reproductive organs go forth creating themselves from the point where we are convieved and our sperm determines the baby`s sex.

    The similarities are enormous, yet they function so differently when connected to our hormone production, glands and mind. Still, we react to stimuly in the same way if we consider what substances the body releases that makes us feel pleasure and drives us to a bonding "feeling".

    It is no wonder the G-spot has been defined as the female prostate. The production and secretion of PSA is the same. They both are located around the urethera. They both react to physical stimuly and can result in an orgasm.


    How this relates to my theory

    What I have proposed is merely a theory of how we go forth to achieve this. I propose that we can use our subconsious aware state to trigger and help the process. What I`m saying is that the location of our prostate has disconnected us from it and my theory is based upon how we can "connect" with the prostate through our subconsious aware state.

    The females have their G-spot located in the vaginal canal and has through the generations been succeptable to stimuly, I believe this is why they can have G-spot orgasms much more easilly without a rewiring process. It would be nice to see some statistics of how long it takes a woman from a sexual debut and until she experiences one - if she ever does - and the statistics of how many women achieve them at all.

    I do agree that the rewiring process is also done by our consious acts and mental focus / learning. But I also believe we do go through our subconsious mind while doing so. I also propose that we add info to our DNA through memories and experiences. It would be fun to see how later generations of male prostate play react to the stimuli. I think their subconsious connection to the prostate will be heightned so that the rewiring process might not be needed - given that enough generations do the same kind of prostate play. I believe the male body will adapt to our prostate play in coming generations as the taboo slowly fades away.

    Wouldn`t that be something :)

    Alex


  • ineverknewineverknew
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    I dont have any science to back this up, just my personal experiences with a few women.  But of the women I have been with, having a g-spot orgasm, while pleasureable, was difficult without serious concentration.  Just my 2 cents.
  • Alex_xxx
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    @ineverknew

    Hmm.. never actually experienced that. Every woman I`ve ever been with have either been able to have them, had them all the time (did a record of 35 in one round of sex - she was exhausted), or almost never got them.

    Maybe it is like you say for those who have never had them, that they need to focus/concentrate on them.
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 829
    @alex_xxx, I should say i was actually striving to give the women squirting g-spot orgasms, which i was never able to succeed at, they would usually say it was extremely pleasureable and different from clitoral stimulation.  My memory is kinda sketchy about those days of being single, im old and married now LOL.
  • euphemisticeuphemistic
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    That's interesting about our prostate and women's skene's gland developing from the same kinds of cells, and diverging into male and female g-spots. I didn't know that. I know little about female anatomy and especially, female hormonal physiology which always seemed much more complicated than men's. Thanks for that information.

    "I also propose that we add info to our DNA through memories and experiences. It would be fun to see how later generations of male prostate play react to the stimuli. I think their subconsious connection to the prostate will be heightned so that the rewiring process might not be needed - given that enough generations do the same kind of prostate play. I believe the male body will adapt to our prostate play in coming generations as the taboo slowly fades away."

    Maybe. I still don't know of any evidence that we can access information in our DNA through our subconscious mind or that we add information to DNA during our lifetime, thus altering it. I've heard anecdotal accounts and theories that this happens and a whole mythos has developed in New Age circles that kind of rationalizes the subconscious-DNA connection.

    I'd like to think that later generations of boys will grow up with this information available to them but think it more likely that our fathers or other men will transmit the information and experience. I look forward to that day.

    "When you sleep, you disconnect your consciousness to let your brain relax (as well as your body). No consciousness means no real feeling of time, so a nights sleep seems way shorter than being awake for the same duration of time. And when you really connect with your subconscious during an aneros session it`s more like being in a dream where you are aware, but not aware enough to recognize the time that goes by"

    I happen to know something about sleep and dreaming, as I work in a sleep lab and have attended classes in dream interpretation at the Jung institute in Boston and undergone analysis with a Jungian analyst. Non-REM sleep is indeed restorative but our minds and bodies are actually very active during REM sleep. I know that some claim that we can consciously decide what to dream and enter the dream as a conscious participant, so-called lucid dreaming. I haven't seen any evidence that this happens and one can consciously change the outcome of the dream without analysis while awake.

    Jung proposed an analogous practice called Active Imagination where one enters a daydream, looks around, and tries to figure out what is going on. Dreams are very slippery phenomenon. Jung would say that dream contents are made available to the part of our brains that processes sensations and are chosen for us by our subconscious mind based on our waking experience and needs. So we don't choose our dream, it chooses us.

    The erotic trance that accompanies prostate orgasm is not a dream physiologically. In REM sleep where most dreaming happens, hormones paralyze most of the body except the eyes which deflect back and forth as if one were reading lines on a page. Some studies suggest that dreams somehow help us to resolve problems in our waking life and others dismiss dreams as psychic trash. But there's not much good knowledge yet about dreaming. I watch people dreaming and ask them what they dreamed about in the morning but it's hard to get a grasp on them.
  • The posts here have been great reading, misspelled words and all.  When we consider that it was once believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth, it is not a great stretch to think that there are many misconceptions about reality, and some who dispute the ideas of absolute truth and reality.

    I find the discussion of fetal life interesting.  I am against abortion because I think it disregards the fact that a fetus is a real human being who has organs in development.  We know, scientifically, that these organs begin their development as soon as conception starts the process, and the determination is made about which sex the child will be.  All of the discussion of these facts still leads many to conclude that fetal life is not rally a human being, but something less, due to the fact that the fetus is not viable until the development has reached an advanced level.  Scientist are researching to determine at what stage in the fetal development the fetus feels pain.  

    Ultimately, we humans choose to believe what we have chosen to believe, in too many cases, and do not want to be confused with facts or radical theories.  But that is how science has advanced through the centuries, by having lively debate of theories, and by testing them empirically.  I am glad that for the most part, this forum has been about tolerance, and healthy discussion, and humble disagreement.  I detect a lack of humility in some of the posts that makes the thread difficult to read, as well as the lack of spell checking, lol.

    For those who think abortion has no place in the discussion, I apologize.  Some think abortion is always a bad topic, just as there are those who think discussion of the male anus, rectum, and prostate as pleasure palaces is always taboo.

    I have been rambling, so please forgive me.  Yet I want to make it clear that I think that one day, science will prove that  an "unviable" fetus is a real human being, in development, and should be given all rights accorded viable fetuses. A viable fetus is a fetus capable of surviving outside of the womb.
  • xtimedt69xtimedt69
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    I would like to point out that English is @Alex_xxx  second language. Given that fact, he is doing a remarkable job explaining himself.
  • Alex_xxx
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    xtimedt69 said:

    I would like to point out that English is @Alex_xxx  second language. Given that fact, he is doing a remarkable job explaining himself.



    Hai faiv xtimedt69......! or was it high five....!!??? 

    pun intended :)
  • Alex_xxx
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    @diem
    @imp
    @euphimistic

    You all requested scientific data that proves my theory.

    @diem even went as far as to ask me to stop spreading my harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    Well, science is actually now proving parts of my theory about DNA stored memory correct.
    So here you all have a new study that is now making quite a few tremors in the scientific field of memory studies.

    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/16/decapitated-worms-regrow-heads-keep-old-memories/

    Now.. How do you propose that a beeing could keep its memories after its brain is removed? :)
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
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    Hello, Alex.

    Interesting OP and comments. The entire mind-body connection is not well understood and may never be. Considering that English is not your first language, you do very well with it. One semantic thing you might want to change in your discussions is the word "theory," which should only be applied to concepts proven by the scientific method. Prior to proof and independent confirmation, the correct term for a new concept is "hypothesis," and we're all entitled to hypothesize anything about anything. Getting from there to theory is a steep climb. Good luck.

    Cheers,

    Dave

  • rumelrumel
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    Alex_xxx said:

    @imp even went as far as to ask me to stop spreading my harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    First, I think you owe @imp an apology as he didn't say "Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory." @diem said that! To make false assertions about others is rather rude don't you think?
    Alex_xxx said:

    You all requested scientific data that proves my theory.
    Well, science is actually now proving parts of my theory about DNA stored memory correct.
    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/16/decapitated-worms-regrow-heads-keep-old-memories/ Now.. How do you propose that a beeing could keep its memories after its brain is removed? :)

    I agree with @ten_s_nut. I would also add the flatworm decapitation experiment did not prove your hypothesis correct at all. That experiment made absolutely no reference to memory being encoded in DNA. Rather what it really validates is a concept called Swarm intelligence or "hive mind" wherein the individual's (in this case each cell) memory contribution aggregates with others to form a collective "sense memory", a kind of holographic information storage mechanism. It is this collective "sense memory" retained by the surviving cells after decapitation which is then restored across the entire organism during regeneration. This is consistent with 'BF Mayfield's idea for utilizing "sense memory" as part of the arousal amplification process leading to Super-O's.

    For the flatworm experiment to show support for memory encoded DNA the experimenters would need to test the behavior of the offspring of the trained flatworms as compared to the behavior of their non-trained biological siblings. In a sense all instinctual behaviors are encoded in our DNA as that is the way evolution works, organisms which best survive due to their particular behaviors pass the genetic basis for those behaviors to their offspring. Nature, however, is always experimenting and creating genetic variants when the DNA gets slightly scrambled in the reproductive process creating mutants. So here we are, a mutant species dominating a world full of other mutant species, waiting for the next celestial event to wipe the world's evolutionary slate clean for the process to start all over again.
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • Alex_xxx
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    @rumel
    I agree. Wrong nick entered there. It was of course diem. I appologize to @imp and edited the post. :)

    As for how the reconstruction of MEMORIES of the flatworms (what they were taught) really happened, the test is inconclusive on that point. My understanding of how this works leads me to believe that it rather is in the dna. The dna is the blueprint, and all the data is stored there. Even if it is by swarm intelligence on a cellular level as you propose, then the info used to grow the limb with memories must be from dna blueprint with new memories attached.

    Your thought about how this validates swarm intelligence on a cellular level being able to regrow something like a brain including recent memories..... Please point me to the research that says that this is the case, or even possible!

    And although it is true that nature creates mutations, and some believe these mutations are what drives evolution... I am not one of those that believe this is the case. I believe evolution is driven by change in all kinds of environment, and this has slowly driven adaptions to be made...slowly.. The idea is the same as what I propose, the DNA you pass on is continuingly added to or rewritten by experiences, and this drives altercations in the the next generations. Instinct is one of the clear indications of this.

    Now, to be more specific here.. i do actually propose that some cells alter their dna by learning, and that this can be relayed to them through our subconsious mind :) this way, you will not need to conduct the experiment on the offspring. That would however give you another type of result.

    Do you really think it will take a celestial event to wipe us out this time? Seems were well on the way already:)
  • Alex_xxx
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    ten_s_nut said:

    Hello, Alex.


    Interesting OP and comments. The entire mind-body connection is not well understood and may never be. Considering that English is not your first language, you do very well with it. One semantic thing you might want to change in your discussions is the word "theory," which should only be applied to concepts proven by the scientific method. Prior to proof and independent confirmation, the correct term for a new concept is "hypothesis," and we're all entitled to hypothesize anything about anything. Getting from there to theory is a steep climb. Good luck.

    Cheers,

    Dave






    Thank you:)
    The use of the word theory is correctly applied (I think) when it is used by a layman / common man like myself. If I was a scientist I would agree that hypothesis would be more appropriate. But I am not a scientist :) http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry101/a/lawtheory.htm
  • impimp
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    Apology accepted. :\">
    Alex_xxx said:

    And although it is true that nature creates mutations, and some believe these mutations are what drives evolution... I am not one of those that believe this is the case. I believe evolution is driven by change in all kinds of environment, and this has slowly driven adaptions to be made...slowly..

    You are entitled to believe what you want, just like the folks who believe the earth is flat and the planet is only about 9,000 years old. @-)
  • Alex_xxx
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    @imp

    1. I'm not religious, and if I were I still wouldn't believe that.

    2. If you actually believe that the difference between radical mutations and environment driven DNA change is that big then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. But keep in mind that we've seen this happen as recently as a couple of centuries ago. English coalminers kids were born smaller with each passing generation. Adapting to their environment. Such differences in people are also differences in DNA. Small adaptions over time.. Characteristica of the sliiightest "mutations" by reason rather than by chance. So slow that I really don't feel that the word mutation can be used for it since the common man thinks of mutation as a radical change. Maybe you've seen x-men to many times:)
  • diem
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    diem said:

    Alex_xxx,

    "What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level"

    Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    If
    you have interest in neuroscience, study. When you will understand in
    the first place how the body work and how little we know, you might be
    able to formulate theory based on real and proved facts, not by fruits
    of your imagination.

    Well.. we`re all
    entitled to our own theories and opinions. If we were only to rely on
    proven facts then there would be no theories to prove or disprove. As
    for "harebrained" - I decided to let you rot in your own rude behaviour
    instead of engaging in meaningless hackery with you.


    If
    you think you know better I challenge you to disprove my theory,
    starting with my quote. I based this upon my theory of how we are able
    to inherit instinct. It`s implemented in our DNA, based on that - our
    memories must be some extent be stored in our DNA. Otherwise there would
    be no evolution. Just look at the crocodiles, what`s the first thing
    they do?

    ------

    @diem
    @imp
    @euphimistic

    You all requested scientific data that proves my theory.

    @diem even went as far as to ask me to stop spreading my harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

    Well, science is actually now proving parts of my theory about DNA stored memory correct.
    So here you all have a new study that is now making quite a few tremors in the scientific field of memory studies.

    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/16/decapitated-worms-regrow-heads-keep-old-memories/

    Now.. How do you propose that a beeing could keep its memories after its brain is removed?





    DNA is very stable to not change. We do not rewrite it. DNA change are unlikely to happen during a lifetime. That's what I learned. I believe there are minor DNA change beside the mutations during your life. It's possible and your article seem to show us it's possible (but that's probably a result to thousands of generation of worms having the head cut and regrown, to keep vital information the organism needed something more durable than neurons). DNA is used to store information but that information is not like the one in your brain, going through your nerves as your prostate is being stimulated.
    That information is used to carry through the next generation some of what you were. You reproduce if you are successful.
    DNA is like the CPU, it has many many function "pre-made" and they are activated in presence of the right components. These functions are made to give you with a certain input an unique result (like 1+1=2).
    Your eye is there, your nose there, your hair brown, you are a boy, etc. You stimulate a part of your body, you start to learn how to use it, it's not DNA its neuroplasticity.

    As for the adaptation to environment, it's not specifically called adaptation but acclimatisation such as the skin color.
  • Alex_xxx
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    @diem
    I agree that we learn how to use a bodypart under neuroplasticity. This is not my point or how it relates to the thread. Personally I do see the DNA more like a backup harddrive, not a cpu. And we've just barely touched the surface of DNA mapping, so it's not in any way disprooved.

    The article does not say that thousands of generations of worms were needed. It says that a group (multiple), were taught something. Then had their brains removed, and when it grew back what they were taught was still there. The brains memories were stored somewhere. A total blueprint of the brain from the moment before decapitation. I simply propose that my theory includes how this might be.

    The point of the thread regarding DNA was merely to point out that the prostate is like the g-spot, but not "active" because of gender. In females it does however contribute alot more to making reproduction a pleasant event. And out of this I proposed that I believe our subconsious "communicates" with our DNA in a way not yet understood by science. If the DNA is directly rewritten or it it contains a "sub-routine" of some kind I don't know. That is purely speculation on a basis of my layman theory / scientific hypothesis. This would explain alot of things we do not yet understand though about evolution, dreams, subconsious making instinctive routines, instincts of newly hatched amfibians like crocs and turtles, placebo effect, mind over body experiences, etc etc.

  • Alex_xxx
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    Anyone still want to discuss the point I made of DNA storing memory? :)

    http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/scientists-found-memories-may-passed-generations-dna.html
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 829
    interesting read.  Amazing how much we dont know about our own brains!  
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 161
    I find this to be a phenomenal theory and i definitely think you're onto something, i love it! just my 0.02 ;)