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When the Aneros is in full effect, how much is it like being fucked?
  • View Poll Results: How much does Aneros FEEL like being fucked? Ignore intimacy aspect (select as many) Voters: 20

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    There is a difference in the "length" and "pace" of strokes/thrusts 9 45.00%

    There is a difference in the way the prostate is targetted 8 40.00%

    There is a difference in the number/quality of prostate orgasms 2 10.00%

    There is a difference is how you surrender yourself and how passive you feel 5 25.00%

    There is a difference in the level of quality and pleasure 8 40.00%

    There is a difference in the unpredictability of each "thrust", like a rolllercoaster ride 3 15.00%

    There is a difference in the mental, spiritual state, concentration and imagination necessary 8 40.00%

    ...all of the above is why the Aneros FEELS better (even if I prefer intimacy when being fucked) 8 40.00%

    ...all of the above is why being fucked FEELS better 4 20.00%

    To me, Aneros FEELS the same as being fucked. 3 15.00%

  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    This thread is going to be weird.

    I was looking at some porn today and watching a woman fucked by another who was using a strap-on dildo. It's long been a curiosity of mine as to what it would be like to have pleasure given to me, while I surrendered to it. There must be some very psychological, positive aspects to being on this side of the equation.

    I don't need to go into a philosophical (sp?) essay about this, so I will just ask: When the Aneros is in full effect, providing pleasure, to what extent is it like being fucked? Is it thrusting up and down? In and Out? Do you have a sense that you are performing the action (Kegeling, PC and Anal contractions), or do you feel as if you are surrendering to it? Or manipulating it with your muscles?

    Is there a feeling that if you make a wrong move, you will kill the "auto-fucking" (as the Wiki puts it)? Is it minor movement? Do you have a feeling that it is stroking along the prostate in a horizontal motion? Or hitting "on" it as if a finger tapping on a desk?

    When you get the "hang" of the Aneros, do the contractions or does the autofucking seem like a fragile balance of breathing-contracting-relaxing that may be lost at any time? If it stops, is it easy to restart?

    I suppose the gay/bi men on here can offer some insight. Yes, there is no intimacy in the Aneros - let's ignore that for this thread - what are the main differences?
  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    any more?

    MyTurn
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Hello MyTurn, :)

    I'll try to answer your questions as best I can. Keep in mind though that the furthest I've gotten is a mini-O. But I do generally have pleasurable sessions with a highly sensitized prostate and anus that generate some very nice pleasure. Just not orgasmic yet most of the time.

    It's long been a curiosity of mine as to what it would be like to have pleasure given to me, while I surrendered to it. There must be some very psychological, positive aspects to being on this side of the equation.

    To the best of my knowledge, you are experimenting with the right toys (Aneros), and in the right place to be wondering about this. In addition, when you progress further with your Aneros practice where you notice that your anus and prostate are sensitive and generate pleasurable feelings, you might look into buying a dildo to practice penetrating yourself anally with it. In my mind this takes your above quote in a different direction than the Aneros in terms of what can be felt. And brings into play the whole submission thing even more when it comes down to fucking yourself with it. See my most recent post on the pegging thread for further information about this.
    http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/pegging-12910/

    When the Aneros is in full effect, providing pleasure, to what extent is it like being fucked? Is it thrusting up and down? In and Out?

    In my own experience, large movements of the Aneros rarely happen. Typically they are much more subtle. While I've had a few auto-fucking experiences with my Aneros, that doesn't seem to be key in generating dry orgasmic sensations. But this may vary from person to person.

    Do you have a sense that you are performing the action (Kegeling, PC and Anal contractions), or do you feel as if you are surrendering to it? Or manipulating it with your muscles?

    When I had my so far one and only mini-O, I was not doing any muscle contractions. I just noticed the pleasure in my prostate, relaxed and allowed it to build on it's own without interfering. Once again this may very from person to person.

    Is there a feeling that if you make a wrong move, you will kill the "auto-fucking" (as the Wiki puts it)? Is it minor movement?

    Replace the word “auto-fucking” with mini, dry, or super-O, and I think yes it is very likely it is possible to interfere with it happening. I suspect most of our Aneros journey prior to learning how to super-O, is learning how to relax, notice, and not interfere with these events happening.

    Do you have a feeling that it is stroking along the prostate in a horizontal motion? Or hitting "on" it as if a finger tapping on a desk?

    I feel like this depends on what model Aneros prostate massager you are using. And which sensation you like from a particular model will vary from person to person, and also will change over time. For me, the Helix feels like a finger tip gently tapping or stroking my prostate. The MGX feels like the underside of a finger length pressing against my prostate. Where as the Progasm feels like prostate is firmly cradled in the notch where it can spasm against it, and anal contractions cause the prostate to be more fully and directly massaged/manipulated than the smaller models.

    When you get the "hang" of the Aneros, do the contractions or does the autofucking seem like a fragile balance of breathing-contracting-relaxing that may be lost at any time? If it stops, is it easy to restart?

    I've found no one formula that always works. And there is always potential to lose pleasurable sensations. Sometimes, relaxing and doing nothing works, sometimes it's slight contractions that do, sometimes it hard contractions that generate pleasure. Other times it's placing my concentration and focus on the prostate and imaging it being stroked that feel good and sensitize it. You just have to experiment in your sessions till you find something that works, and be ready to move on and try something else when it stops working. Sometimes I can restart pleasurable sensations within a session, other times not. It depends where my head is at, and likely other variables I'm not even aware of.

    Your post gives me the impression you are looking for one main formula or technique that will get you there. Or trying to verify that large continual contractions that generate the “auto-fucking” experience to occur will give you super-O's. And I don't think you are likely to find it. Each guy's Aneros journey is unique, and you have to find what works for you. And just because someone can describe a technique that got them further along, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you. In my own opinion, less analysis and more frequent Aneros sessions would likely be more helpful for you.

    Love_is
  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    Hmm, you've made me curious to revisit the MGX, which was my "first", lol. I abandoned it soon after, thinking it didn't fit. I've been Helixing ever since.

    But anyway, I wanna thank you so much for your insight, Love_is!
  • To me, being fucked is completely different than the Aneros (although I sometimes feel like the Aneros is fucking me senseless). When getting fucked I don't usually have that much control over the experience, especially after my partner reaches a certain point (!) but during an Aneros session I can easily control the speed and intensity of its action and my position if I choose to do so.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Your welcome MyTurn. :)

    I hope the responses here give you some ideas to work with.

    Love_is
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,482
    Thanks for this great Poll MyTurn.

    I voted for both "...all of the above" choices, contradictory as that may seem.

    "aneros FEELS better..." applies to my youthful experience as a bottom in the gay exploratory relationship in my youth, when the anatomy in question was my friend's penis in my ano-rectal tract. Although I seriously dislike the word, I was being F'd in your terms here. I enjoyed it very much a few times, it was exciting and arousing, and then it soon became routine, then dull and then I stopped it. Aneros hadn't been invented then in the 1960s.

    For about four years prior to experimenting with sexual intimacy with my male friend, I had been massaging my prostate to orgasm with my finger, two rounded nose-cone-ed model missiles, and miscellaneous other phallus-like toys. From these, in addition to Super-Ting gloriously, I had stunning after effects I called Intellectual Orgasms (see my early blog post detailing them). As I have noted previously, this is my 50th Anniversary as a prostate massager enjoying Super-T-ing (although I first learned that language here of course), and having some extraordinary after effects.

    When we began I was the obvious first one to try bottoming and was eager to see/feel what that would be like. For me, while quite enjoyable anal/rectal stim at first, the penis didn't really do much for my experienced prostate. Penis OK fun. Missiles prostate after effects IOs spectacular!

    "...being F'd FEELS better..." if Fingering counts as F'g here, and on that basis, that is why I also voted F'g FEELS better, even discounting intimacy. Mrs. a's finger, ever more experienced and talented!!, gave me my first and best full body active Super-O and numbers of others, as well as being a superb energies stim/transmitter/repeater, and helping send me/us on trips throughout the universe/multiverse. She has launched me on a thousand shiploads of prostate-triggered wet Super-T finales to our co-eroticists adventures, way way way beyond simple sex.

    Even doing my best to discount our intimacy, and I believe a caring professional massage therapist who does prostate massage would also exceed aneros because of the flesh-to-flesh contact and the energies exchanges/transmissions. I know there are talented male tops, often with an up-curving penis, who do develop the sensitive deliberate delicate prostate contact techniques that aneros and the educated finger can achieve.

    So it is possible for MM penile F'g to also achieve what mrs. a and I have, although only if they do the exercises required to intake significant yin energies from the earth and elsewhere, so as to enable harmonious energies exchanging and rebalancing between the male partners. Supplementary yang uptake is similarly necessary for lesbian lovers to get the best energetic effects.

    Aneros is wonderful, as per BFM's "Tantric Training Wheels" sexually, and as prostate health therapy for BPH and Prostatitis most certainly, now my main sessions purpose. Also always a great tool in further explorations of techniques and responses/feelings, such as my recent solo sessions. My favourite way of being F'd is having my ICE in while mrs. a and I are having thrusting intercourse!!!

    With the rhythm of those motions, ICE is slamming me deeply with the good old in-and-out hitting both my penis root/bulb and my prostate through the rectal muscle wall!!! Mrs. a can feel that and really likes that sensation being transmitted through my penis to her tissues and nerves.

    For me it is like being in a three-way sandwich, being F'd while also F'g, which has its own unique sensations for me, and here I would say I prefer the ICE to another guy's penis and the rest of him in bed with us. No thanks.

    So again, back to the first and Aneros better! It is also the best prostate massage I get from the ICE, better than my solos with ICE, even though it gives me the best therapeutic Super-T "clear the pipes" sessions of any of the aneros models.

    all the best of every possibility all

    artform
  • [QUOTE=jack38;34570]To me, being fucked is completely different than the Aneros (although I sometimes feel like the Aneros is fucking me senseless). When getting fucked I don't usually have that much control over the experience, especially after my partner reaches a certain point (!) but during an Aneros session I can easily control the speed and intensity of its action and my position if I choose to do so.

    I wud think another difference is that as hard as a cock might get, it's always softer than an Aneros. Sortta LOL.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Thanks for resurrecting this old thread, Paul.

    Short answer: The only similarity between Aneros "auto-fucking" and being butt-fucked (by a strap-on in my case) is, they can both cause prostate orgasms. Otherwise, the 4 to 5-inch stroke during fucking is way deeper than the 1/2-inch maximum stroke of Aneros auto-fucking. That makes the experience very different.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • [QUOTE=ten_s_nut;48522]Thanks for resurrecting this old thread, Paul.

    Short answer: The only similarity between Aneros "auto-fucking" and being butt-fucked (by a strap-on in my case) is, they can both cause prostate orgasms. Otherwise, the 4 to 5-inch stroke during fucking is way deeper than the 1/2-inch maximum stroke of Aneros auto-fucking. That makes the experience very different.

    Best Regards,

    Dave

    I have no experience (sadly) with a cock up my ass (butt wud like to try it I think,) butt I often wondered about how it gets so far up w/o being painful. I can't tell from the porn I've seen it in, whether the guy is writhing in pleasure or pain. I imagine the rubbing over the prostate is something like Aneros, butt the rest, as u say, is a lot higher up. Isn't there a sphincter up there? Does it go beyond that? Seems to me a really big long one wud.
  • Linum
    Posts: 187
    Unfortunately for a lot of my gay friends, they report that they feel very little, or nothing when being fucked. For them it is a power-thing - offering themselves up to a strong man, and if anything it is the fulness that they like to feel. Some do seem to get a lot of sensation out of it, but remarkably few.

    I have never been fucked, but my aneros eupho does occasionally auto-fuck me when I am really relaxed, but also paradoxically, when I am really horny. I don't think it is moving very much, but let's face it, we are training ourselves to notice every single subtlety, and small movements now feel a lot larger. For me it is a feeling of surrender - but then the whole aneros process feels like that to me. I love it.

    I seem to recall reading another thread in this forum, where a gay guy reported that after a lot of aneros use, a guy fucked him and gave him multiple orgasms. I think the point was that the "top" knew how the aneros worked, and did not fuck in the traditional manner, but penetrated him and left his cock rest on his prostate. I was interested that Artform has achieved super-Os from being fucked and finger fucked, but then he has this down toa fine art - lol Even here, he seems to put a great emphasis on technique and experience, over enthusiasm and gusto.
  • OK u guys. I'm always more or less horny, butt your descriptions are making me drip and want to try a real cock so I can make a valid comparison. I, too, find the larger models like Progasm Ice help me fantasize that it is a cock. I agree that JUST sex can be much less pleasure, and maybe even get routine and boring, than with intimacy and affection involved. Self pleasuring as we can do with aneros and other ways, but isn't sex with someone else an experience of our own pleasure as well as experiencing that we are giving pleasure to someone else? My fantasy of aneros as penis includes a nice man with the cock attached.

    This thread reminds me of a thread I have been thinking of composing that might get more readers and responders that the one with gay members in the title. I don't know how it could be titled. I wonder if aneros use is awakening hetero men to their homo side. I think we are all on a continuum from hetero to homo if we can admit it. Obviously if on different places, and even different at different times of our lives, some are closer to either end, and may not recognize, or be willing to admit the attraction to the other end. If one feels attraction and affection for someone of either sex, it could lead to sexual feelings. It leads me again to where the evolution of the gay member thread did, to recognizing our togetherness in this whole complicated sex thing. We are all different, but more alike than unalike. A fellowship of potential buddies. It all contributes to peace in this world. Happy Independence Day to all.
    Paul
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,482
    Thanks Linum!!

    Your post is an important contribution!! If you could here when I have fireworks actively, you'd hear it very enthusiastically and with MUCHO GUSTO!!!!!

    all the very best anal prostate stimulation and awakening for all of us all along the spectrum men all

    artform

  • jack38
    Posts: 33
    Last night, I had a fantastic Progasm session (I've been using the Eupho and Maximus frequently, but the Pro only once a month or so).  After 15-20 minutes, the Progasm  kicked in with major auto-fucking - fucked me absolutely senseless, let me tell you!.  I Super-O'ed 3 or 4 times over the course of 1/2 hour, then had a big surprise with a mind-blowing Super-T that I thought was going to be a really incredible Super-O..  I don't usually cum during a session, but I blasted off  big time last night.  Great as that was, I was a little disappointed because last night's super-Os were amazing and I wanted to keep going.  Maybe tonight ...
  • Congratulations, jack38.  Makes me envious.  i have some good times, but not quite so hot as yours seems.
  • dingus
    Posts: 72
    This is an interesting thread. I keep thinking that if the "real thing" is anything close to an Aneros session, our culture's understanding of anal sex is upside down and backwards.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,482
    Indeed dingus!!

    And all the best Auto*F riding jack38 and all!! It makes a great prostate health therapy session too, for those also using aneros for its original medical design purpose!! Sleeping through the nights, after/before whatever sexual to spiritual adventures with aneros, is just as wothwhile in my life now!!

    I should say dingus that I did try the "real thing" in my late teens for a couple of years (17-19), and though great fun initially, it never produced anything the met the levels my then solo prostate massage practice (started at age 13) or now later Aneros have consistently produced!!! It would take a very patient, very healthy, very skillful top to get there with the "real thing", imho, unless by chance....uniquely.....

    ecstatic happy healthy prostate glands understood appreciated open and accessible all

    artform
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I am very glad that there is a thread with this subject in the Aneros general discussions because this question arose in my mind during my last session with my new Helix Syn on Friday night. I thought I had a great session. My deep and rhythmic breathing caused the Helix Syn to massage my prostate back and forth, over and over, innumerable times. I had many P-wave series! I describe all this and much more in my posting made yesterday in Aneros Testimonials.

    Towards the last 15-30 minutes of my session, it felt like the Aneros was drilling into my ass and even hammering my prostate incessantly. This sort of activity grew rather uncomfortable, even bordering on the painful side. I had to end my session what happened. Has anybody else here experienced this? 
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Hello, Big.

    The only Aneros I own that gets uncomfortable due to excessive auto-fucking action is Helix. None of the others, Eupho, Vice, Syn or Progasm Ice do that to me. Helix also interfered with ejaculation during sex with my wife. Consequently, my Helix sits in a drawer, exiled from my toy collection. 

    Best Regards,

    Dave

  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,482
    Fascinating Dave!!

    My Helix sits in my drawer for different reasons and has never been able to get the Auto*F level.

    Art
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Just past midnight this morning I had another session with my Helix Syn. What I experienced was gentler and less intense in regards to the auto-fucking action. In many ways, it is perhaps my best session yet.
    I was greatly relieved that I didn't experience the uncomfortable drilling action bordering on pain. I hope to blog about last night's experience later on this morning.

    Thom./BigGlansDC

    P.S. I wish to thank Dave (ten_s_nut) for replying to my post in this thread and also for the collective wisdom and experience of the other respondents.
  • KeokeKeoke
    Posts: 67
    Congrats, Thom, on a good session! 
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @BigGlansDC

    I get this occasionally from my MGX. What this means for me is that I'm tensing up. And if I concentrate on relaxing more, the discomfort will usually go away.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Thank you for your insight, Love_is. That is what I may have experienced last Friday night. Perhaps I was just tense. Perhaps I was supercharged since I hadn't used the Aneros in nearly a month. 

    bigguy and other experienced Aneros users have spoken to me about the importance of deep rhythmic breathing when I use the Aneros. Deep rhythmic breathing enables me to relax and focus upon the Aneros and my prostate. In a sense, it is a type of meditation, would you agree?

    Also I accept the congratulations of my good buddy, Keoke :-)
  • rainstomp
    Posts: 51
    In my experience, the real thing has no similarity to aneros. It depends on your anatomy whether a dick is going to stimulate your prostate at all. Some lucky guys will find an angle that works for them. For me it doesn't even touch. With the difference in size and motion, most of the sensation has to do with the thrusting through your sphincters (you'd be very aware of keeping them relaxed) and feeling of fullness... sensations that are practically non-existent with aneros.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Thank you for telling us about the differences of sensations found in anal intercourse and those found with the Aneros!
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Big;

    There's also been a lot of discussion about Aneros vs. being fucked in the Pegging thread, which can be found by clicking the "Popular" button at the top of this Forum page.

    Cheers,

    Dave

  • VicVic
    Posts: 28
    Personally, I draw no distinction between Hetrosexual or Homosexual, both of which are man-made terms used to describe and separate people from people, and thus create massive hostility, fear, guilt and paranoia, across a wide range of humanity.

    I find solace ... in simply being a sexual being, which may or may not engage the company of either sex. Regardless of physical presence, I maintain supreme rule over the power of my imagination and therefore am able to place myself onto a landscape of core organic bliss when I allow myself to be fucked by Aneros. Upon insertion, "it" remains Aneros, and after the first twitch kicks in, "it" gradually goes through a blissful transformation and takes on two shapes, one— a glorious finger, and two—a not so well endowed cock. Either one is acceptable, and I don't argue when it takes on, in my mind, the shape of a full erect penis and pounds my bum so hard, rendering me a sweaty mess with my face slammed sideways against the headboard.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,482
    Glorious Vic glorious and clearly the right attitude and visualization skills applied!!! :D :D

    Art
  • VicVic
    Posts: 28
    Thank you artform, it is indeed Glorious, and the visuals flow through my life like water.
  • LICNYCgay
    Posts: 12
    Although I find the aneros sessions to be wonderful, they still pale, for me, compared to a real penis with a real guy behind it. Granted, I'm still relatively new to regular aneros use, but now that I'm starting to feel what we're calling dry orgasms (and which are wonderful) I have experienced the same thing from a good long hard fuck, and have had what I'd have to call super o's that have lasted for about 3 -5 minutes after climaxing at the end of such a fuck. Also, for the record, I've never had a guy stick his dick into me and not feel anything. Dick size has little to do with that. In fact sometimes the smaller guys hit the prostate better than the big boys. Not that I'm discounting the possibility that there may be gay men who feel nothing when on the bottom. It's a big broad world with all kinds of people. I will say that I have never met any of them. My friends that I know who prefer playing catcher to pitcher do it because it feels good, not because they're fulfilling some guy's power trip. I'm anything but submissive when I bottom myself. It's a partnership in making each other feel good, and I'm just as in control of that process as the top guy.
  • steveg2611
    Posts: 35
    The Aneros (any model) is a static object.  A certain effort must be used to have it work.  Even when it takes over care must be taken to NOT lose the momentum.   It is pretty amazing though.
    On the other hand, a big hard boner on the end of a hot man is a live object.   The fit may be the same, but the essence is different.  Its a coming together of two bodies, each of which is hopefully working toward the same amazing mind blowing end.   When a guy is fucking you hard its pretty much the most intimate thing 2 guys can do together.....  so for me its different.
    However, i've recently discovered the fun and intimate relationship of an aneros riding partner.  Sharing this experience with another man is pretty nice and you can share the end result...  take care guys.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I wish to thank @steveg2611 for his clear, concise description of how it feels when two guys fuck and the "fuck" action of the Aneros. Now after nearly a year of Anerosing, I can induce both slow fuck strokes of my Aneros buddies and rapid jackrabbit strokes too! :)

    Thom./BigGlansDC