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All you rewired folks, Please help me. (kind of urgent)
  • Disclaimer: I wouldnt read this if you are going through the "rewiring process." It might cause you paranoia and send you in the current spiral I am in……. 


    Here it goes:


    I am really scared. I had NO IDEA what I was getting myself into! Recently i stumbled upon the super 0 (3 days ago). or at least… am feeling the build up to it…. 24 seven… yea it feels really great and blissful but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY! After some research it seems like the aneros "Super O" is parallel to something called "kundaiini energy" . According to google its one of the most powerful energies of all and is like the last frontier of yoga or something like that…. Also supposed the be one of the greatest gifts of the universe and true enlightenment…yada yada yada….. this would be great….but I feel strange and unbalanced and REALLY REALLY drugged. Also, Im really concerned because these orgasms are causing my  blood pressure to go extremely high and this is nonstop… im concerened about this causing me a heartattack…. I cant stop it… It just creeps on me w/o any stimulation whatsoever…. It is really scaring me. : (  I am also having trouble coping with some of the symptoms of kundalini energy (the super o sensations). I cant stop thinking about sex. But worst of all, I feel like Im on heroin. I feel really nasceus and weak all the time.…. Getting random spouts of hot/cold sensations all over my body… Heart is racing… anxiety/paranoia…. pressure in my left side of my brain…. back pain…. according to google I have kundalini energy stuck in a few chakras… (Never knew what a chakra was…… ) etc. etc. etc. Worst of all… is I've  been having all these symptoms without the aneros in me… So its not like I can turn it off by taking the aneros out of my ass.)  I feel so lost. I feel like I want someone to wrap me in there arms and tell me everything is ok and everything is going to go back to the way it was. I am REALLY scared. I guess Im scared of the thought that this feeling will be apart of my life from now on…. If I had known this is basically what "rewiring" was….  or that I would have to feel like this (doped up to the max with no way out) 24/7….. I wouldn't have ever started this process. To make matters worse, is, I've never particlarly had an enjoyable session with the aneros until 3 days ago … so I never rlly got to dip my feet in the water… the other day it just hit me out of nowhere during a session) ……..  Its like my whole life is changing… and this feeling is my new reality….. i feel like a different person and the person who I was yesterday is slowly fading away (keep in mind… these symptoms just started three days ago) Most of all I am worried. And I am writing here because I am scared.!…. I feel like Im losing control of my life to this feeling…and theres no way out…. This is the only place there seems to be knowledge of this… So I have some questions…. Can I turn off this energy? I have read about grounding the energy on the net but nothing seems to work… I just got back from the gym and was on the treadmill for 2 and a half hours and I still feel like my body can run a frickin marathon. Its like im on speed. BTW, this is the only time where I feel somewhat normal is when Im walking/running) Also tried hugging a tree…. no results.. : ( Anyways. My question for all you rewired folks…. Does this energy ever go away? or get weaker or controllable? ( I would consider it a gift if I could turn it off…. and access it when I want… but as of right now.. its just way too much ; ( …….. I tried to stay busy all day yesterday… really action oriented… felt somewhat ok, but the feelings hit me as soon as i get to sleep…. I''ve only gotten one hour of sleep today…. It keeps waking me up….. From what Im reading it seems like there is no way to stop the energy once (the true kunaludi energy) has been opened… (this is what ive seen on google…… is this how its going to be for the rest of my life???)   Any insights into this???  I can barely fucking breathe without feeling like Im on cloud fucking 290)  Im REALLY hoping there is some light at the end of the tunnel in terms of this energy getting weaker down the road… Please help.. Ive never been this scared in my life. I feel like I am losing myself……and have become some junkie….. : ( …… I hate this feeling of dopamine running through my veins 24/7… It rlly makes me feel like I have to vomit and I have to really fight to access reality…..I am definetly going through a kundalini syndrome crisis according to google. I have broke down in tears twice already and I feel like my world is in a lot of turbulence..…..Some wisdom from you experienced folks would really help me out…. : ( BTW im only in my very early twenties.. I feel this has completely put me on a different path. and I wasn't  looking for this…..  : (  Also, as a lurker on this forum for a long time, I can understand why B Mayfield has his location set to "somewhere over the rainbow" ….. I always thought it was an endearing joke…. boy was I wrong. 



    Some words of wisdom or comfort or a remedy sent my way would really rock my world. Its like I want to be with people all the time and I feel really vulnerable and weak…. Before this all happened I was quite the opposite. Always stayed to my self.. very headstrong and independant…. critical thinker, analytical…… I feel like Im losing who I was… and I've been on a heroin binge for the last 6 months… (BTW. I am not a user of drugs. I am a social drinker and that's it)


    I'm sorry if this post is rambly/redundant… I can't focus enough to clean it up/proofread! : (

  • xtimedt69xtimedt69
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    @rumel can you help this guy? I have seen other need to learn to turn it off.
  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    Concernedcitizen.

    I Have just gone through EXACTLY what you have described. Within the last month. The jacked up feeling your getting, Is because your body is now more effectively using your Life Force (within your semen). It would appear that you have done some research into the matter already, And i to was scared when reading into kundalini energy. I am certainly no master at this, but i would like to add that, I am eternally greatful for what i have found, and my life has changed strongly for the better.

    I suggest that if you are not already, you start meditating. If you are getting headaches commonly this will help to improve (not get rid of but reduce) them. Pranayama breathing excercises and chi control meditation, strongly improved my self confidence (concerning the kundalini). What i might add is if you do successfully unlock the kundalini (and i genuinely hope for your sake you do) there is 2 ways this can turn out. You may as you have read, have somewhat of a short circuit of knowledge and energy run throughout your body and into your mind, which you cannot control and can somewhat resemble a seizure. However With chi control excersises you can learn to control your chi and can move it around your body (and even outside of your body). This is important for self confidence, because once you have mastered this, you can more safely approach your root chakra to unlock the Kundalini (this is where i am at now). What i mean is, When the kundalini is unlocked, You will have a surge of Chi(life force), Driven by your Yi (will power), connecting your 3rd eye or pineal gland to the rest of your chakras (you must balance them all first), BUT using your Yi you can bring that energy back down into your heart or solar plexus chakra, Increasing your Compassion, love and empathy. Once you have mastered this you have a real gift from god. You can apply the most potent energy source known in our universe to all aspects of your life including sexuality, creativity, spirituality and many more.

    I myself was very scared, But id like to add, You are on the verge of literal greatness. Somewhat of an evolution process. And if you commit to it (it was the only choice i felt i had) you wouldnt believe what you are capable of. Believe in yourself, and search for greatness. I would also suggest that you do not attempt kundalini Yoga, Or unlocking your pineal gland until your learn to control your chi within your body.

    This sort of spiritual enlightment has been chased by Billions of humans over our collective life span.

    Anybody whos reading this post and thinking about buying a Aneros model, Id like you to know that this device changed my life in great ways that i couldnt imagine. Absolutely the best $ ive ever spent.

    You should buy yourself The Tao of Sexology by Dr. Stephen T Chang. This book is very helpful in understanding your chi and your sexuality.

    That feeling you can feel, at the bottom of your spine, Begging you to let it rip up your spine with force, That you were unconciously but now conciously holding back. When that dies down (You should milk your prostate to help achieve this) you should begin to learn how to purposely transmute your life force from your semen into physical energy. This is how i currently subdue the kundalini urges i used to get. However i strictly do not ejaculate now and do not encourage it. Only in this case until you are able to practise, buying you time to get your bearings. Trying to transmute your energy whilst still in your current state may result in a kundalini awakening (the magnitude of which is dependant on each individual).

    Everything you need is on google. In your case, Knowledge is a true gift. Read up on the the Taoists, Read up on Kundalini Yoga, Read up on Chi training, Read up on your chakras and eventually you may want to read up on Chakra gemstones, Read up on dry orgasms, Read up on Yogi Bhajan. Once you have started to settle into this awakening, Id also advise purely for fun, to read up on lucid dreaming, people experienced in meditation can get great results from lucid dreaming, Almost on a nightly basis.

    I hope things go as well for you as they did for me. Be positive. Your body is Your temple and your only now begining to explore it.




  • Alex_xxx
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    This puts things into perspective for me as well. I`ve been concidering going to the doctor the last week.
    I downloaded the "heartrate" app for android a couple of months ago. And the last 2-3 weeks my heartrate has gone up from 55-65 in relaxed pulse to between 80-90 in relaxation pulse.

    This is a massive increase, and study shows life expectancy for people with over 80 in relaxation heart rate is only 40 years. And I`m currently 32 = O
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    I had a similar experience once with a huge butt plug, a ouija board and a bottle of mad dog 20/20...
  • Hey Alex_xxx and Wired. Thanks so much for your responses. Its comforting to know that others are experiencing/have experienced what im going through. Please Keep the responses coming. It helps me gather my thoughts. Wired, I thougroughly read your response and I'll have to look into those things if this energy doesnt die down. Right now, in these early stages, Im hoping I can kill it off altogether or find someway to make it weaker. Im afraid if I start practicing some of the introspective things you've suggested, it might cultivate it further...(but I really really really appreciate all the information. Im glad you are having a great experience so far. I hope my bad experience doesnt rub off on yours the wrong way. Keep the positivity going... I definitely felt some of what you were mentioning especially when I was on the treadmill... That feeling of confidence/no worries.... it was nice... but I only experienced it for about 20 mintues while I was hitting the treadmill pretty hard... When Im off the treadmill its like a freaking nightmare... its like my body is cultivating too much energy and cant handle it.. thats why when I get on the treadmill and can turn some of the energy into heat/sweat i feel a little better). Hywel, I know this is the internet and everything but seriously your comment isnt exactly what I was lookin for. ouja boards... thats really scary man. I'm already really wound up at the moment : ( I prlly would have found it funny though before all of this..... : ( 


    Anyways, Alex, I was wondering, how long have you been feeling an increased heartrate? Also, as time has gone on, have you noticed it gradually dying down, or is it only getting more out of control? 

    If anyone here on this forum has information about what this energy becomes as time goes on it would be great (as in... does it die down..... does it go dormant.... etc. etc.) 


  • Alex_xxx said:

    This puts things into perspective for me as well. I`ve been concidering going to the doctor the last week.

    I downloaded the "heartrate" app for android a couple of months ago. And the last 2-3 weeks my heartrate has gone up from 55-65 in relaxed pulse to between 80-90 in relaxation pulse.

    This is a massive increase, and study shows life expectancy for people with over 80 in relaxation heart rate is only 40 years. And I`m currently 32 = O


    Sending good vibes to you. Maybe someone here can help us out... 
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    May the force be with you...

    I think a trip to see your GP/doctor might be a good idea.
  • hywel said:

    May the force be with you...


    I think a trip to see your GP/doctor might be a good idea.


    Thanks Hywel,
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    concernedcitizen,

    I can't say I know what you are experiencing right now but it could be a case of kundalini awareness triggering a panic attack and not a full blown case of Kundalini syndrome. It may simply be that you need to do some basic 'grounding' to re-establish balance in your internal energy. I think 'Wired' offered you some excellent thoughts to help you along.

    While the "kundalini rising" syndrome is rare, there have been others on this Forum to report similar experiences accompanying their Aneros use.. You may find some solace and additional information in reading the membership responses found in these threads : Have I Awakened my Kundalini?, Panic Attacks!! Help!!!!, Kundalini Rising.

    Additionally you may also wish to read a number of Kundalini energy related threads over on the The Tao Bums website.
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
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    This kundalini syndrome doesn't half sound like a bad case of first time sub drop...
  • rumel said:

    concernedcitizen,

    I can't say I know what you are experiencing right now but it could be a case of kundalini awareness triggering a panic attack and not a full blown case of Kundalini syndrome. It may simply be that you need to do some basic 'grounding' to re-establish balance in your internal energy. I think 'Wired' offered you some excellent thoughts to help you along.

    While the "kundalini rising" syndrome is rare, there have been others on this Forum to report similar experiences accompanying their Aneros use.. You may find some solace and additional information in reading the membership responses found in these threads : Have I Awakened my Kundalini?, Panic Attacks!! Help!!!!, Kundalini Rising.

    Additionally you may also wish to read a number of Kundalini energy related threads over on the The Tao Bums website.

    image Good Vibes to You ! image


    Thanks for your response and taking the time to link me to those posts Rumel! Funny thing is, Ive been reading those religiously since yesterday (also many posts on the tao bums website). I have yet to find someone who is experiencing what Im experiencing who discusses a resolution except the one on here which mentions acupuncture. Thats why I decided to post here, hoping maybe I can connect to someone new to get as much information about it as I can and provide further insight. If anybody knows anyone who is going through what Im going through who's made it out of it, Please send them my way. Or if you know of any articles... Also any other sorts of advice or discussion is welcome. I'm looking to connect to as many people as I can. Thanks again Rumel.


    @hywel...  its kind of like living with the flight or fight response 24/7 only a bit more magnified...mixed with random orgasms that put you on another planet.  terror then unbelivable amounts of pleasure... its really taxing and scary
  • @concernedcitizen
    FEAR NOT!

    Well that all sound a bit meladramatic doesent it? BUT IT IS NOT! Everyone is different and you are only in your 20s so you will not be as grounded as some of us older guys.
    I feel your fear, I have been there.
    I would be about 12 months into my journey give or take.
    For me It hit me to like it has you but not as bad by the sounds of it, I suspect it is your youth that is amplifying it.
    Yes its like a drug  of sorts, Your body /and mind wants it all the time, and sometimes it is dangerous to even try driving a car! Your heart will start racing just while you are sitting in a chair.You get the shakes like you are cold or scared. You cant get to sleep coz your prostate just goes ape shit when you lay there. Yes it scares you!

    I have been there! I have had days where I have worn a aneros for almost 24 hour straight only to take it out for a few hours and then put it back in coz I could not do without it.
    You get real worried that you are in big trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FEAR NOT MY FRIEND! It will pass and things will level out. You will gain control again.

    Here are some tips that may help.

    Sleeping....
    You lay there and your prostate just wont shut up!
    Best position to get into I found was to lay on your front and hold your junk.
    It wont stop it altogether but it certainly dulls it.
    You will have a better chance of nodding off.

    Wanking off Controls the urges a lot. Not just once but as many times as you can manage, blowing your load every time. This drains your sexual energy. I am 40 and it took three times in about 2 hour to dull it.
    Being young it might take more it just depends on how sexualy charged you are.

    Remember it is not going to stop it will just dull it so you can function in life!
    I have never measured my heart rate so have no idea on what it gets to but it settles down after a few months.

    Wanking off also releases a chemical reaction in the brain to help you sleep.

    People will tell you not to wank off because you need the sexual energy for your aneros sessions BUT you dont, they might but you dont, you have too much. You will have plenty to go on with.

    You know you cant stop so you have to just keep goings so be brave and remember you are the master of your own destiny. You had the guts to try this taboo experience and you will master it.
    In life if a new experience makes you take a step backwards in fear the only way ahead is to take a step forward again and face it head on!.

    I hear you ,I feel your fear, and I reach out to you through the keyboard and hug you (in a manly way) and say it will all be ok dude.Hang in there/
  • Jspad
    Posts: 88
    I've been having sessions for about 5 weeks or so, and haven't rewired too much, but I've had a similar experience about the first week in. After only 2 hours of sleep, I woke up with crazy energy in me. It was sexual energy. It was interesting at first, and I masturbated and the feelings were on a whole new level, but then I got kinda shaky and frustrated. I had to masturbate again just so I could get to bed. The next day, I could feel an energy at the base of my spine. I threw up in the morning, and had to masturbate a couple more times that day and take a couple of naps, but the day afterward I finally felt mostly normal. Things have been slow since, and I'm kind of thankful for it despite the slowness driving me crazy the first few weeks. Anyway, I hope you feel better soon.
  • Jspad
    Posts: 88
    By the way, what can one do with Kundalini energy? I've not felt it since that one day.
  • BigOluverBigOluver
    Posts: 190
    I'm a young aneros user as well. I have been on my journey for a few weeks and is amazed at the many things that my body has done. To me those uncontroling sensations feel great to me. I don't even have to be in a erotic state and i would get three mini o's bak to back. I say just ride them out. your body is grasping to the new feeling and it's send waves to the other body parts to get them all on board. So have fun and don't be so cared.
  • Alex_xxx
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    Gonna try to answer all the posts as best I can regarding my own experiences.

    1. I`m a guy in good health. I jog a few kilometers two times a week and work out a couple of times every week.

    2. I`ve kept track of my pulse with the heartbeat monitor on my Galaxy S2 phone. It stores the information.
    3. I haven`t changed my diet or my habits. So either this leves out or prostate play of this kind MIGHT be a health risk.

    4. I will keep eveeryone posted. If I don't... it means I died... that's how committed I am.

    5. My GF has read these posts, knows everything about me, and is committed to my pulse going down.

    6.If my pulse hasn`t gone down in 4 weeks I WILL see a doctor about it.

    7. I have no other concern thar would increase my heartrate, not economical or any social concerns.

    8. I WILL however increase my workout routines to jogging at least 3km three timed s week in an effort to increase my health benifits. But I don`t think my oxygen uptake is the issue.

    9. I don`t smoke.

    10. I`m 32 years old and have never experienced an increase in heartrate of this kind before.
    I hope thread starter works out his issues. I will post my progress here for his and mine benefit and record.

    11. I can post snspshots of my heartrates, monitored back until BEFORE I started aneros use.

    If the Aneros compay has any information to contribute here regarding the symptons and case, I incurage them to share it IMMEDIATELY. As there is no warning lables on the product.

    Alex

  • Alex_xxx
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    Ps.
    It`s 3am here, I`ve been in bed for about two hours and my heartrate was now measured to 79. I can post a screenshot if needed. It`s actually quite intriguing as I haven`t felt any energy surge, superO or increased sexual health as thread starter has........
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    One last entry...
    My log states that my night time heart rate was 55 the 19th of february. With a double check with me and one of mt GF above 60.
    That means an 90% increase give or take. Amazing really....... got the data to back it up.
  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    Rumel -  "Additionally you may also wish to read a number of Kundalini energy related threads over on the The Tao Bums website."

    Thank you for this link.

    "You
    know you cant stop so you have to just keep goings so be brave and
    remember you are the master of your own destiny. You had the guts to try
    this taboo experience and you will master it.
    In
    life if a new experience makes you take a step backwards in fear the
    only way ahead is to take a step forward again and face it head on!."

    It would appear that through our own experiences, we have learnt the same lesson. Perhaps the kundalini is somewhat locked into the realisation that we are commiting to taking whatever comes and facing it with everything we have? I will think on this later im sure.


    "By the way, what can one do with Kundalini energy? I've not felt it since that one day."
    This is a hard one to answer. Everyone is different. Kundalini energy can be manipulated in the same ways by different people. That doesnt mean that different people can manipulate kundalini energy in the same way. You can do with it what you learn to do with it. The more practise the more powerful you can become. Heres some things you can expect.

    On a basic level (this should be your main goal, as it is truely the greater part of what you will be learning): Learning to use kundalini energy to truely unlock and maximise the potential within your Chakra. This is the enlightening part of your journey. This increases your emotions (all of them), gives you a completely different outlook on Sex, and even unlocks the door to something even more elusive than the Super-O (and best of all Its for partners! you both get to enjoy this one, infact you Have to both do it for it to work). You will be a very well rounded individual with the ability to excel in whatever you want.

    On a far advanced level: You will learn about energy in a whole new light. You will see it, feel it. Itll be a giant part of you that you didnt know existed. An extension on your current reality. With great training you will be able to read minds, have astral projections, manipulate energy in the world around you (even program energy to follow out your commands), control the elemental energy's and absorb the energy all around you (at this point you may be prone to hugging a few trees).   I can by no means do any of this (I am beggining however to be able to see energy around me with my eyes closed. In a dark room i can see people vaguely whilst having my eyes closed. Im still practising). 
    This i admit can be hard to swallow. But its what you learn through going through this kundalini experience that teaches you how and why this is possible. Energy is obviously real, its all around us, it IS us. Once youve gained control of it, you can be truely powerful.

    Alex - I think a doctors visit should be your go to. Personally i think you should go sooner rather than later. I have not experienced anything like this myself.




  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    "Right now, in these early stages, Im
    hoping I can kill it off altogether or find someway to make it weaker.
    Im afraid if I start practicing some of the introspective things you've
    suggested, it might cultivate it further.."

    Your absolutely right, and im glad my post didnt pursued you to do so. That wasnt my intention.
    You should Definetly try to weaken this power before continuing. As Braveneworld said masturbating is the best way to dull the energy. I might just re-add the milking point. I didnt find this hard to do, and was able to milk my prostate dry with just one session of about 20-30 minutes. It might be quicker and more viable than masturbating 3-4 times in a row
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    I don`t really know about all this "kundali" energy stuff.

    I rather think it`s a physical reaction to your prostate beeing stimulated @concernedcitizen.

    Seems like the prostate stimulation has a huge effect on our bodies. And if it can directly influence our heartrate then it is directly connected to our subconsious. 
    Our subconsious then tells us to pump out adrenaline. Also I believe that the prostate can trigger the subconsious to tell our bodies to produce DHEA. 

    This will explain the increase in sexual drive, as it is a precursor to testosterone. It will also explain the increased heartrate, loss of concentration, sweating, panic attacks and memory loss you`re feeling. Theese are all effects related to a constant flow of adrenaline in the body. Just ask any psycologist.

    I would recommend that you STOP using the aneros immediately. Following Wired`s advice and "pushing through this" could infact kill you if you`re in the risk sone of getting an heart attack.

    I believe you`re prostate has gotten an increased sensitivity, might even become stimulated by you`re muscles or BM`s. I would take a few days off from work and other things if I were you and try to work things out.

  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    "
    I would recommend that you STOP
    using the aneros immediately. Following Wired`s advice and "pushing
    through this" could infact kill you if you`re in the risk sone of
    getting an heart attack.
    "

    With all due respect, My advice was meant to be more of a way to understand what he is going through. Im only new to this and can only speak from my own experiences. What i was trying to express is that for myself, Ignoring this seemed to make my condition worse. I felt strongly like i was forced into take the next steps, as it became harder to supress the energy beneath my spine. My paranoia grew. Perhaps his experience will be different to mine and he will be able to return to normal. For me this wasnt the case. I believe that after several days he will return to normal. For a day or so. Only to find that this energy returns in a much more manageable state. I wanted to offer a way of dealing with this safely. I would like to also point out that i suggested he stop prostate stimulation in the mean time (Perhaps milking the prostate could be a bad idea assuming he is yet to feel the difference between his Jing, and his Chi. I made this suggestion under the assumption he could do this. In case he cannot I would stick to normal penis stimulation to ejaculate). let me pose one question on this topic also, If what ive stated is untrue, what would be the harm in pursuing this. This would suggest he is getting panic attacks and increase heart rates due to prostate stimulation, Not kundalini energy. Pursuing an idea surely cannot bring effect into the real world, And if it could that would suggest that there is more to our knowledge than what we understand. I See this not only as a safety net for him, but in the case that im wrong, I see it also as no threat above what he has already gone through. The next step should remain the same, and if he does choose to pursue this, he can make his own mind up on the subject, Just as i had to do.

    Disregarding everything said bar the energy he is feeling. I strongly recommend he ejaculate to relieve the build up of energy.

    What ive stated is really information meant for concernedcitizen, as only a person going through this >*will*< be able to really comprehend given he wants to pursue it. If not i hope he can return to a normal state and move on. Id hate to think my advice became harmful to him, and i think obviously, wasnt my intention.
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    It might be wise, after things have settled down, to have your blood pressure checked by your doctor.  Your body making adrenaline for extended and frequent periods can lead to having an enlarged heart. High BP is a symptom of this.
  • Tickle
    Posts: 22
    I don't think you have awakened the Kundalini, it can take years for Kundalini energy to rise and it doesn't necessary rise through the chakras in ascending order, may go straight to the heart chakra first then back down to solar plexus. I think you have created a feeling of panic due to thinking that you are being overwhelmed by kundalini energy. All i think that is happening is that your body is going through some new processes that it needs to handle but there maybe a slight overload to deal with that should settle down in time. If indeed you have awakened the kundalini then the effect of this will be to bring alot of past issues in your life that were unresolved up to the surface and you will have to deal with them. In other words alot of negative stuff. This is how kundalini energy works, it sorts you out and gets rid of all the negative baggage that you've picked up over the years. I would say by the sound of it that your chakras are all out of balance, you need to balance them out or certain chakras need working on to correct the energy flow so that it can flow freely through the chackras. Right now I'd say you have blocks in your chakras that are surfacing due to this more powerful flow of energy. It would be advisable to ground yourself and help to dissipate this energy by dealing with these blocks and so balancing the chakras again. This can be done by sound or Reiki is also very good, if you can find a reiki practitioner in your area, they will sort your chakras for you or at least you could book a consultation explaining your situation. Ofcourse these are only suggestions and whether you act on them or not is entirely your decision. Some kundalini awakenings can be quite frightening especially to those who know little about what is happening. Its quite interesting that one technique to awaken kundalini energy is by doing kegel exercises so aneros use could lead to this happening and maybe even more effective at unleashing it. But I think you generally have a lot of energy flowing in your body that needs to be grounded and then your balance will be returned.
  • Posts: 0
    Tickle said:

    I don't think you have awakened the Kundalini, it can take years for Kundalini energy to rise and it doesn't necessary rise through the chakras in ascending order, may go straight to the heart chakra first then back down to solar plexus. I think you have created a feeling of panic due to thinking that you are being overwhelmed by kundalini energy. All i think that is happening is that your body is going through some new processes that it needs to handle but there maybe a slight overload to deal with that should settle down in time. If indeed you have awakened the kundalini then the effect of this will be to bring alot of past issues in your life that were unresolved up to the surface and you will have to deal with them. In other words alot of negative stuff. This is how kundalini energy works, it sorts you out and gets rid of all the negative baggage that you've picked up over the years. I would say by the sound of it that your chakras are all out of balance, you need to balance them out or certain chakras need working on to correct the energy flow so that it can flow freely through the chackras. Right now I'd say you have blocks in your chakras that are surfacing due to this more powerful flow of energy. It would be advisable to ground yourself and help to dissipate this energy by dealing with these blocks and so balancing the chakras again. This can be done by sound or Reiki is also very good, if you can find a reiki practitioner in your area, they will sort your chakras for you or at least you could book a consultation explaining your situation. Ofcourse these are only suggestions and whether you act on them or not is entirely your decision. Some kundalini awakenings can be quite frightening especially to those who know little about what is happening. Its quite interesting that one technique to awaken kundalini energy is by doing kegel exercises so aneros use could lead to this happening and maybe even more effective at unleashing it. But I think you generally have a lot of energy flowing in your body that needs to be grounded and then your balance will be returned.



    What a load of old new age BS
  • Tickle
    Posts: 22
    Thanks much appreciated, I'll take bullshit its good for my roses. If this bullshit sets the original poster of this thread's mind at rest then it will be worth it, even if it is as you say bullshit....
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    I agree with hywell. This is like going to a healer with your cancer... If it works, then it`s all placebo effect.

    If you think you`re heart rate goes up because you draw energy from your semen then you`re in biiig trouble! Only way you get energy from semen is by ingesting it.
  • RastaYogaRastaYoga
    Posts: 43
    Concernedcitizen,

    You are gonna be OK! This kind of kundalini energy experience could be thought of like a very hot bath: first, shocking and almost painful in intensity. After a while, becomes incredibly pleasurable and relaxing. 

    But you have to give yourself time to adjust. 

    Kundalini is very powerful, but in my experience, if you do not try and 'block' the energy or go against the flow... you will always be OK. You will actually get great healing and learn a lot, and feel better. It's as natural and organic as SEX and LUST is... it's just a much deeper and more intense kind of pleasure. 

    If you get confused, you can read the following meditations aloud to yourself and reflect on them quietly:

    'The Psychedelic Experience' - http://deoxy.org/psyexp.htm#5.3

    O nobly-born, listen carefully:
    The Radiant Energy of the Seed
    From which come all living forms,
    Shoots forth and strikes against you
    With a light so brilliant that you will scarcely be able to look at it.
    Do not be frightened.
    This is the Source Energy which has been radiating for billions of years,
    Ever manifesting itself in different forms.
    Accept it.
    Do not try to intellectualize it.
    Do not play games with it.
    Merge with it.
    Let it flow through you.
    Lose yourself in it.
    Fuse in the Halo of Rainbow Light
    Into the core of the energy dance.
    Obtain Buddhahood in the Central Realm of the Densely Packed.

    The bodily symptoms you are having are not physical in nature.
    They indicate that you are struggling against the awareness of feelings 
    which surpass your normal experience.
    You cannot control these universal energy-waves.
    Let the feelings melt all over you.
    Become part of them.
    Sink into them and through them.
    Allow yourself to pulsate with the vibrations surrounding you.
    Relax.
    Do not struggle.
    Your symptoms will disappear as soon as all trace of ego-centered striving
    disappears.
    Accept them as the message of the body.
    Welcome them. Enjoy them.


  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 861
    personally i think it was just a panic attack.  I had one once last year and ended up in the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack, and im only 39, not that it cant happen.  Its amazing how your mind can fuck with you in that sense and make you think your going to die.  I had so many amazing things(large painful knot in my chest, numb left arm, racing heart beat) happen when I had my attack and after finding out it was nothing, the doctor said your mind/body can trick you very easily, wink, wink.  Maybe check with a doctor and see about something like xanax, though I dont necessarily think pharma drugs are always the answer.  Oh I should say i ended up finding out it was a bad case of heartburn, my mind/body manifested the rest.
  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    RastaYoga said:

    The bodily symptoms you are having are not physical in nature.
    They indicate that you are struggling against the awareness of feelings 
    which surpass your normal experience.


    Well.. psychological factors can also trigger hormones - ask any psychologist and you`ll get it all explained.

    If so, I believe that you worrying about theese symptoms are actually making them worse. If you have concerns then you`re body will put out a constant flow of adrenaline, and this can be very dangerous if you`re at risk for an heart attack. Other than that - like I said, it will mess with your memory and awareness. I would recommend that you go see a doctor asap!

    If you compare it to me - I got the increase in heartrate before getting any feelings of O`s, Pwaves or dry O`s. So for me I`m 99% sure this is a physical reaction to prostate beeing stimulated. 

    On a sidenote:  I don`t really put my trust in chakras or any of that stuff. Nor do I believe in ghosts or telekinesis - seems to be the same thing. I don`t believe in things that have never been proven to exist despite a sh*tload of research on the subjects.

    I agree with @ineverknew
    You might want to get some xanax if it doesn`t stop, better that than dying of a heartattack.
  • Posts: 0
    everybody,

    just go to the  doctors for a check-up. Less of the hippy faith healing stuff and leave the Yogis to carry on steeling the picnic baskets.

    And if you're gunna do Kundalini sauce make sure you have plenty of rice with it... and a few lagers. But don't exceed the recommended intake of 28 units of alcohol in a week.
  • Hey guys. I appreciate all of the responses. Including the "New age/spiritual" stuff and the more scientific stuff. I have been reading a lot and I definitely feel like my "kundalini" has awoken.. and that it is not just a panic/anxiety attack. The reason for this is because my head always feels like it is itching so to speak... and my left brain feels like it has been turned on. Also I can feel the energy rising through my spine. Also, these feelings of anxiety/pleasure have now been ongoing 24/7 for the past 4 days…… During these past couple of days it has almost been like the feeling of when your getting over a cold and your sinuses slowly open back up to where you can breathe clearly again. But not only does my head feel more clear, but I can feel a ton of new sensations not only in my whole brain but in my left brain (which usually felt pretty dormant) 




    From a scientific standpoint, my intuition and logic theorize that I have created more neurological receptors in my brain. I have a theory that when we concentrate on the good feelings and subtle sensations during the aneros sessions (as instructed) that this somehow forces our current neurological receptors to go on overload, or be unable to handle the pleasure. So our brain makes new ones to handle all the energy.. kind of like the pleasurable energy is forcing some part of the brain to reawaken or transform itself to handle all of this stimulus. The reason the brain doesn't do this during a normal orgasm is because a normal orgasm only lasts about 5 seconds... and cant be done over and over due to the refractory period... but with multiple orgasms... or practicing with the aneros to achieve multiple orgasms… its a constant amount of pleasure that our body isn't wired to handle... Hence "rewiring".... a pool of dopamine building up in our brain without receptors to take all of it….It would also explain why from the spiritual aspect some people experience "kundalini" after a traumatic event. For instance if you experience something truly devastating (lets say getting held hostage... or something 10X traumatic) the body would naturally start to release adrenal hormones due to the flight or flight response. If this goes on for a long amount of time, I can see how it would cause adrenaline hormones to pool and cause the brain to resort to evolving to be able to handle all of the stimulus. (evolving by creating new neuron receptors or activating some other primal part of the brain that is normally dormant)  I am no brain expert or doctor but this theory seems to explain the aftereffects of all this rewiring and kundalini stuff. Also explains why I feel like I cant stop the pleasure and all of my senses and feelings are heightened.. its because I have a new bank of neurological receptors in my brain that are open to stimulation hormones (adrenaline and dopamine) that weren't there before. This would explain why my reality seems so turbulent (pleasure vs. anxiety) why I am crying, why I feel angry sometimes, why i feel like I can orgasm if i just touch the back of my neck, etc. etc.  While all of this is great to someone who wants to feel evolved, I personally was fine to life before all of this happened. This heightened sense of reality is making me feel like I have become a prisoner to my own body and I never know whats gonna happen next. Almost like I'm living on a roller coaster. From a spiritual aspect, this theory would explain why the body feels more energy flowing through our "Chakras" (basically our spine… ) .. its because our brain now has a ton more receptors to feel things that were always there, but we never felt before. Also would explain form a more scientific standpoint why our blood pressure could be rising… its because the slightest things will now set off adrenaline (fight or flight) or dopamine (pleasure/sex) which normally cause the heart to race. All of this is overwhelming and extremely alarming. Both from a spiritual aspect and a scientific/biological aspect. I have no idea what to do with myself. A doctor will have no idea what the hell I'm talking about so traditional medicine is out. Traditional doctors nowadays are mostly like drug dealers.. they just hand out drugs… Well, I definitely don't need any more drugs introduced into my body at the moment or take anything that is going to further offset this imbalance of hormones surging through my veins 24/7. Especially when traditional doctors wont truly understand (or even try to understand) what has happened. I feel going to a doctor may be beneficial to gain some more insight but not too wise to rely on due to their lack of knowledge when it comes to what has basically happened. They will mostly just prescribe some sort of drug and get me out of there.




    All I can say is, If you are experiencing any mild symptoms of "kundalini syndrome" (all you scientific folk, take the label with a grain of salt.. the information is parallel to the more scientific route, i just think its a different way to explain it/different outlook) I would definitely stop all aneros usage while your brain is still not as overactive as mine. (or from my theory, created for its self new neurological receptors) Take it from me. the high you get is not worth it AT ALL. Since I've never done drugs, I cant say for certain but Im sure what Im feeling would be similar to a bad drug trip. Fortunately for drug users they have the luxury of stopping all of these sensations by stopping the intake of drugs. I on the other hand, do not. 




    Right now I am at a crossroads. Mostly because the spiritual aspects tell me I must continue going to feel normal again, but my logic/scientific approach tells me what I have done is really messed up and continuing would only change the landscape of my brain further. I am trying to gather some more information before I move on and relying on my intuition to guide me. I am definitely still feeling awful thats all i know. Im going to be taking a break from the internet for about a week because I feel all of this research is just feeding into the loop of all these heightened sensations and anxiety (adrenaline). I am going to try to get these feelings somewhat under control through exercise and a better outlook about it so I will stop offsetting the adrenaline from worrying so much. I have bought a blood pressure machine and a thermometer to check on my vitals regularly to make sure I wont die from a heart attack or from overheating. 




    As a side note, one thing I noticed is during these past four days.. it has been EXTREMELY HARD to yawn. According to science, humans yawn for the sole reason of releasing energy/heat from the body to be able to go to sleep. This would explain why I have only gotten about 6 hours of sleep within these past four days. I cant yawn.. the heat/energy in my body is way too overwhelming for the body to go into "sleep mode" Scientifically, the hypothalamus is in charge of these passive duties… So the fact that I cant do these things anymore is a sure sign that what I have done is majorly changed the landscape of my brain. : ( A word of caution to all of you new users, especially the young ones who currently have the outlook towards the aneros like I did when I bought it.




    I am fighting to hang on to reality. Maybe by next week I will feel somewhat better. You never know what tomorrow brings.  I hope all of you continue this discussion while I'm away. Or if your going through what I'm going through to speak up and introduce yourself. A sense of community/interaction with people seems to make things a little better. I feel this is the only place I can talk to anyone about this. If I start bringing all this up with relatives or friends, they would probably look at me with googly eyes or send me into a further state of panic. If I go to a doctor they will probably misdiagnose me as having anxiety or deem me to be in a state of phsycosis. So that's out for now. 




    Wishing you all the best. I am determined to get to the bottom of this so I feel balanced/healthy again. BTW, I am a very analytical/scientist type, so sorry if this passage is overflowing with too much information. I've tried to put my words in a conversational manner. Sending good vibes to all of you. (wired or not, spiritual or not).


  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    If you are correct in your theory then this might be a really bad thing for your sex life. You see, the feeling of pleasure you get from sex and also prostate play releases endorphins. You have a natural peak level of this during the best sex you ever had. If you take exstacy f.ex. it will trigger you to produce unnaturally high amounts of it. Seems like you've done the same from what you're writing. Now that it's done, it can`t be undone.. and coventional sex will never reach the peak level you created. That is why extascy ruins your sexlife forever with only ONE pill.

    Yes, dopamine is also involved.. but not so much in the pleasure felt state. It will however make you crave it again by helping you create new neural pathways connecting the pleasure to an event in your memory/brain.

    Hope it works out for you. Good luck with the chi/energy thing. I hope you make it without any permanent harm. :)
  • p3rv
    Posts: 22
    Sorry to hear you're freaking out but you have absolutely nothing worry about. Everything is fine. The mind is a powerful thing ;)

    Get nice and comfortable, close your eyes, clear your mind, relax and listen to the following custom made file, made just for you, with a pair of headphones.

    Virtual Hug.mp3

  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    "Since I've never done drugs, I cant say for certain but Im sure what Im feeling would be similar to a bad drug trip."

    I appreciate that you as i am new to this. However i think you will given you chose to pursue it, Drastically change your outlook on the subject.

    "Right now I am at a crossroads. Mostly because the spiritual aspects
    tell me I must continue going to feel normal again, but my
    logic/scientific approach tells me what I have done is really messed up
    and continuing would only change the landscape of my brain further. I am
    trying to gather some more information before I move on and relying on
    my intuition to guide me"

    This would explain my mindstate exactly 3-4 weeks ago. I believe this is a wise outlook on what is happening to you. All the best in the next week. Please post back when you return, disregarding your choice, If you are able to return to normal, That would be a great thing and should be posted to reassure other people that go through this, that they are going to be ok.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    concernedcitizen,

    Sorry to be getting into the discussion so late, but I've been laptop challenged this week.  I am sorry to hear that you are in such distress.  I had a similar situation in my own journey early on, but it only lasted one or two days.  In my case I found vigorous exercise, meditation and self-hypnosis very helpful.  The exercise seemed to smooth out the neural hyperactivity for the short term.  Still, by simply turning my focus to the memory of those sensations,  in an instant they were upon me at high intensity once more.   It was as if my entire body was an engine revving on a high idle, just waiting for a small amount of fuel (mental focus) to ramp things up again.    Eventually it occurred to me that I was perseverating on my condition...inexorably, and by doing so was perpetuating a self-stimulating positive feedback loop of stimulation,  sensation and orgasm.  In this space, thought was my nemesis as all thoughts seemed to lead to one place.    To deal with this I looked to the mental quiet brought about by TM.   I found that it worked quite well to ramp things down, but I obviously couldn't continue with it indefinitely.   Self-hypnosis proved more helpful as a longer term solution in that I was able to experience the quiet that I needed while programming myself at the same time with post-hypnotic suggestions that I could use for management once I'd emerged from the trance.   (It's amazing how powerful the word calm can be! ) 

    From what I can see you are having a hard time thinking of anything else other than what you're going through.   And while you have good reason for this, realize that your analytical thinking may be part of your problem.   Far be it from me to tell anybody to avoid establishing causation when it comes to something that's bothering them,  but in this case it can get you into trouble.  While a traditional orgasm (ejaculation) is often a mindless response, the Super-O is not.   The CNS (the mind) plays an enormous role in this process.

    My suggestion is to put the analysis on hold for now.  There will be time for it later.   At this point it's more important to make some moves to stabilize yourself.    In addition to what I've discussed there have been several good suggestions offered by forum members earlier.  Whatever methods you try, remember to invest yourself in their success.   It's important to remember that your mind was an essential element in opening this door in the first place.   The door can be shut be the same mechanism.



    BF Mayfield

  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    BF Mayfield - "  It's important to remember that your mind was an essential element in
    opening this door in the first place.   The door can be shut be the same
    mechanism. "

    thank you, this is reassuring

    http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html
    I think you might find this interesting if you have not seen it already

    Alex - "If you are correct in your theory then this might be a really bad thing
    for your sex life. You see, the feeling of pleasure you get from sex and
    also prostate play releases endorphins."

    completely the opposite. I hope he doesnt gather that outlook on his situation. All the information on this can be found here.

    http://www.amazon.com/Bedchamber-Chinese-Classics-Including-Meditation/dp/0791408868
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Tao-Sexology-Infinite-Wisdom/dp/0942196031
    http://www.thegreattao.com/html/taoofsexology.html

    concernedcitizen - "During these past couple of days it has almost been like the feeling of when your getting over a cold and your sinuses slowly open back up to where you can breathe clearly again"

    This could be completely unrelated, But i noticed something in the past 2 weeks. If i dont eat or drink anything for say more than 3 hours, and then i have something with more than a mild flavour of say water, I taste(taste might not be completely accurate) it all the way into my ear canals. Just the first bite or mouthful.

  • Alex_xxx
    Posts: 408
    @wired wow.. I'm lost for words...

    I really hope you pick up some scientific books instead of trying to argue against proven physical responses with spiritual and meditative sexuality litterature..

    Maybe start by reading up on the subject of endorphins since you clearly know nothing about it.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Alex_xxx & @hywel 

    Negative criticism, intolerance, and judgment of other peoples beliefs does not make a harmonious and welcoming community here in this forum. This is not the place to have heated discussions about what beliefs are right or wrong regardless of what set of beliefs we are talking about. Please show some respect toward your fellow Aneros forum people, refrain from these kind of comments in the future, and bypass discussion topics that do not agree with you. Thank you. :)
  • Posts: 0
    I'm out........and I don't have any faith left in this forum or these products. If there are any forum moderators then please remove my account as I do not subscribe to such extreme quackery.After all none of this is based on science fact. Is it? What was meant to be fun and pleasure is now some new religion. Just the kind of poppycock I was trying to avoid.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604

    For those who are troubled with the Kundalini awakening or rising:  Kelly Howell has a brief description of the phenomenon and how it emerges from the chakras and crosses into the physical/neuro elements of one's body.  It's on Track-One of "Kundalini"  (ISBN-10:  1-881451-53-4 // ISBN-13: 976-1-881451-52-2). 

    Ms Howell uses "Ocean" breathing with the meditation in Track-One.  This is a nose-in, mouth-out technique. If you opt to undertake her meditation, it might be helpful to get adept with a more conventional, nose-in, nose-out technique as in Zazen breathing (Google for it).  Then, move on to "Ocean."

    This is a Theta-wave session so use a pair of ear buds or phones that present very equal levels to each ear. Tracks two and three challenged my laptop so I ripped the CD and loaded it into my mp3 player. Two of my three pair of buds overloaded in the left channel and the vocalizations were distorted.  Tougher material than Hypnaerosession.

  • PolecatPolecat
    Posts: 56
    Hywel,

     "A load of New Age BS" ?  These concepts have been around for thousands of years.   You're one rude guy.

    Don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out!

     
  • Posts: 0
    Well....it's the 21st century and science has moved on from what was around 1000myears ago

  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    To All,

    Respectful discussion is a hallmark of Aneros forum and it's important that we maintain that.   While I don't discourage anyone from offering a dissenting opinion it must be done in a way that doesn't attempt to deride or belittle those with opposing views.  Expressions of anger and intolerance are disruptive and do nothing to further the group discussions.   If you have nothing to add that is on topic and constructive, then please bypass this thread out of respect for the gentleman who created it.   He did not ask for nor does he deserve this.


    BF Mayfield
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    BF Mayfield,

    Thank you Mr. Mayfield for injecting civility back into this thread. I usually find dissenting opinions interesting when they are based on well reasoned thoughts or belief systems. However, I find it disheartening when some people trivialize with flippant posts the problems of members who are seeking real solutions to their very troubling concerns and then go on to denigrate the caring responses of other members.

    While we've seen this negative behavior before on this Forum, I am hopeful that the site moderators will take the appropriate action to curb any subsequent negativity or troll like behavior.
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Hi guys,

    Last November, I had a very bad experience with Aneros rewiring. It was during a marathon Aneros session which began on a Saturday mid afternoon and ended around 6 p.m. in the early evening. I wanted to try for the first time both the MGX and Helix Classic which had sat new and unused for months. I used these two models with the Helix Syn, Maximus, Progasm Ice and Progasm Classic.

    My session stretched out to 4.5 hours, a record. Close to the end of my session, I became very fatigued. When the session finally ended and I cleaned up, all of a sudden my nerves felt set on fire! I suffered that condition until about 2 a.m. Sunday morning when I finally fell asleep.

    I was thinking of not going to church in the morning. But I did, and it was the best thing I did. The church service soothed my fiery nerves. Going to church actually put out this fire. I learned a very important lesson never again to overdo an Aneros session!

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • Wired
    Posts: 83
    Alex, Im sorry you feel this way. Please note that my post were not
    intended for you. I was trying to supply information to somebody asking
    for this type of information. I respect that its not for you, and i
    believe you have good reasons to support your arguements. However you
    have not yet supplied or demonstrated an effort to helping the OP. The
    OP has already stated that he is thankful for both the spiritual and
    scientific information being given. May i suggest that instead of
    worrying about the subject you know nothing about, you turn your
    attention back to the subjects you do know about (science apparently)
    and begin to demonstrate your ability to help the OP with access to your
    knowledge. This doesnt mean you tell him that you know about it, This
    means you give him the opportunity to learn for himself. This was my
    intention and i think should remain the intention of this discussion for
    the OP's benefit.

    Hywel - Disregarding your uninformative, unhelpful statements made so far. These
    "Well....it's the 21st century and science has moved on from what was around 1000myears ago"
    "What was meant to be fun and pleasure is now some new religion."

    are incredibly embarrasing things to say. Fundamentally wrong and worth the 3 minutes of research to understand its fallacy.

    Im
    sorry that you feel that this forum and or its products cannot be
    utilized by you. If you read my posts, i state many times that You can
    get from this what you want. Im not telling you (and im Definetly not
    asking for you approval) that you must cult up in robes, and get your
    seance on (Infact, Im not telling YOU anything). Furthermore, i believe your
    mindset to be detrimental to a forum, but would also suggest that if you
    cannot filter content, the internet is a dangerous place for you.
    Please reconsider your statement and do not let my (Someone you dont
    know and will never meet) opinion stop you from achieving a great and
    common goal of this forum, The super-O.

    Please can we remain on subject, and keep this statement inmind with our future posts.
    OP
    - Concernedcitizen "Hey guys. I appreciate all of the responses.
    Including the "New age/spiritual" stuff and the more scientific stuff."
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Hello, Concernedcitizen, and welcome.

    I understand your initial panic attack-like reaction. That's what happened to me when my first Super-O caught me by surprise -- thought I was tripping. (Haven't had any psychedelic drugs in over 30 years.)

    The advice offered above in this thread, both "new-age" and scientific is all worthwhile. Zen meditation is what worked for me and continues to help whenever I need to get a handle on the sexual energy unleashed by Aneros. Of course, Xanax or another prescription drug might work just as well. One way or another, I'm sure you'll learn how to control your reaction.

    Best Wishes,

    Dave