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  • I am a Christian guy. and have just joined.  Could I ask that every Christian guy contact me as soon as posible because i need advice guidance and some questins answered


    many thanks  i am grateufl

  • Tomasheen
    Posts: 181
    No doubt you are worried about the possiblity of committing some serious sin? I have been there and I have managed to overcome the years of wrongful teachings and ingrained guilt. I have no doubt at all that aneros use and masturbation are not sinful. Religions are hell bent on placing dictates and restrictions on every aspect of human sexuality. Sex is a gift from God or from Mother Nature and it is to be cherished and enjoyed by us both for the purpose of procreation and personal pleasure.. I hope haven't been too presumptuous and I am sorry if I have.
    Alas this is a very common theme and one that needs addressing in the light of reason and simple common sense.
  • @Tomasheen - "Religions are hell bent..."  Good choice of words.  Priceless.

    @timnall - I'm sorry you seem to feel that only certain types of people can assist you with the advice, guidance, and answers you seek.
  • @timnall I am a baptized Nazarene Christian.  I am bisexual.  I am a switch in the BDSM lifestyle.  I have also cross dressed and have a gender bent mindset at times.  I've gone through every gamut of guilt and religious dilemma I can imagine when it comes to sexuality.  Now, you've not directly said that you're feeling sexual guilt.  Tomasheen has eluded to it.  All I am doing is simply expressing myself and what I've gone through.  You are more than welcome to send me a message if you would like to talk about anything at all.  Feel most welcome here among your brothers my friend.  We support.  We encourage.  We understand.
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    Hi timnall Hi
    Many on this forum have fairly negative responses to religious content in the threads but as you have explicitly titled you post "Christianity" I trust you will get a fair go.
    Some immediate thoughts.
    As you know Christianity is based on the teaching of Jesus as remembered and as colored by the people and the cultures who wrote the Gospels. If you go back to the teaching of Jesus and disentangle them from those adjustments you end with a person who loved life and wish to free his listeners from the restrictions of the culture that disempowered them so they could be themselves and to explore the wonder of life and enjoy as much of it as possible. He also had a huge sense of humour and unfortunately, much that he said with tongue in check was taken seriously. The scriptures have been interpreted by many groups so we have so many denominations. It rather depends in which denomination you find yourself as to how you can move into a new abundant vision of God.
  • Tomasheen
    Posts: 181
    Isvara, you are so right. Up-bringing and culture are so powerful and it takes great courage to stand up and resist the restrictive forces involved. Fear of some kind of after-life punishment for sins can haunt the mind. Religions thrive on this. Human sexuality has always been the focus of repressive cultures and female sexuality comes off worst. I have said many times before that if you believe in God, then see Him as a loving God and not one who seeks out every little sexual act for dire consequences.
    It took me a very long time to see through the fog and mist of false and,quite frankly evil teachings. I have had to learn to love my sexuality and not fear it. I am much happier as a result.
    .................;............................................. ........................................................

    I saw Heaven and it was filled with happiness and joyful praise. I saw Purgatory and it was full of misery and painful longing; their time would come some day.
    I saw Hell and it was empty for God is Love and infinite mercy.
  • Greetings timnall!  I would be very pleased to be an encouragement to you during your aneros journey.  Please check your inbox.
  • Hi @timnall,

    Welcome to Aneros Forum. Like my good buddy, @STARR831, I would like to support and encourage you in your Aneros journey. I too have sent a message to your inbox.

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • hoi,

    i am neither a christian, nor an atheist, but i believe in something more powerful we all can imagine. lets say i believe in some kind of god. so everything is made my god, and he made us too - he obviously made us to live our own lives, because i cant see any strings attached to our bodies.
    i dont really know what i can add to the previous posts, cause @Tomasheen and the others pretty much nailed it.

    love and peace
  • hey brotha. I am also a christian and have my journey hindered quite extensively from guilt over what is considered right and wrong. I think we are meant to enjoy our bodies however and have started to feel better and get over some of my guilt. There is often a stigma involving anal play especially in heterosexual culture which i think is ignorant and rather dumb. If you have any questions feel free to message me.

    I am speaking from personal experience, I dont know if you are the same. I was worried that using the aneros would change my sexuality or change who i am. It DOES NOT DO THIS. If anything it has made me love myself more and appreciate who I am as a person better.
  • hi its good to hear from you.   it is going through my mind and trying to pick brains of others. my email address is timnall80@yahoo.co.uk. I am a new bie at all this. I have strong sexual urges which i need to addresss.  how old ru. where do u live


     

  • Usually, the Aneros Forum is a place where you find good things, but occasionally you find something that isn't so good.  The author of this thread ( @timnall ) left a message for the Aneros Team in their Activity section on February 25 which reads:

    Hi Team. it is with great regret that I have to inform you I have to leave this group. I struggle with sex addiction and I think my involvement with this site will take my addiction into a new area because I have proved to myself that I cannot control my behaviour. I am feeling so low and so ill and so scared about this because this is causing me acute depression and I am scared about my mental health. So please unsubscribe me. Many thanks. Tim

    Tim was, for a short time, a regular visitor to the Aneros Chat Centre, and although he didn't own any Aneros device, seemed to be interested in the pleasure one can derive from anal related play.  He liked the pleasure, and said so repeatedly, both in the Chat Centre and in the three Blog entries he wrote.  It's a pity that he believes his behaviour is aberrant, and needs to be controlled.  Gee, I wonder where he got such ideas from?

    He authored just one thread in the forum, this one, and I think his farewell message belongs here.
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 860
    Sounds like he needs some professional help.  At least he sounded like he was honest with himself, most people who are addicted to something cant even admit that much.  I hope the best for him.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    @timnall,

    I would like to point out to you the short paragraph in the Aneros WIKI regarding Getting Help for psycho-sexual dysfunction.
    "Sexual practices within the cultural, religious and legal contexts of our world are extremely diverse, confusing, ambiguous and occasionally irrational. Such conditions lead to widespread psychological issues surrounding sex practices and the ability to enjoy sexual relationships. This WIKI is not the place for persons suffering from sex related issues to have them resolved. Professional counseling by qualified therapists is recommended, one source for finding help is through AASECT.

    The American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists is a not-for-profit, interdisciplinary professional organization. In addition to sexuality educators, sexuality counselors and sex therapists, AASECT members include physicians, nurses, social workers, psychologists, allied health professionals, clergy members, lawyers, sociologists, marriage and family counselors and therapists, family planning specialists and researchers, as well as students in relevant professional disciplines. These individuals share an interest in promoting understanding of human sexuality and healthy sexual behavior. You can write to them at P.O. Box 1960, Ashland, Virginia – 23005-1960 or visit their web site at www.AASECT.org for further information.

    Another web resource is The Sexual Health Network, dedicated to providing easy access to sexuality information, education, support, and other resources."

    HELP IS AVAILABLE !

    I do hope you will avail yourself of those resources.
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 570
    There's only one problem with that, @rumel. Tim's from Scotland.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    This is all very sad. But Tim and I are in regular touch via e-mail. He joined a support group in Edinburgh, Scotland some weeks ago.
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 860
    glad to hear he is getting help.
  • slimjm
    Posts: 497
    Sorry also to hear this about Tim.  I realize there are several of us Christian guys who participate from time to time on the forum who hold more traditional sexual and conservative moral views, though that doesn't keep us from discovering and enjoying the God-given pleasures of sex just as much--just in the ways though He designed for our greatest fulfillment.  If something serves to offend in a manner that causes weakness or stumbling in a specific individual's case, it is probably best for them to avoid it all together.  I hope for the best for him.
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    It is sad that the incredible life enjoying, abundant, empowering teachings of Jesus were shaped by the early followers into what we now call Christianity. I can understand that the teaching was too much for the early 'church' to comprehend and that it was easier to incorporate the old law back into the belief than remain true to the new. The reason for my comment is somehow sex and sin have got linked together in the teachings. This has caused believable pain and suffering, deprivation, permissive torture, self harm, righteous evils against females and a host of psychological dysfunctions. I can't see a resolution, I just feel so sad that what could be so liberating has caused so much pain and evil.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,481
    Very interesting thread, even given Tim's changes. STARR831 has been a friend here for years and I joyfully celebrate his powerful Christian gratitude for the gifts brought forward by Aneros practice and full prostate awakening. My paternal and maternal families have long strong Christian roots and they both emphasize the anabaptist responsible adult personal connection to God in all manifestations.

    The paramount Christ Commandment is the Golden Rule, and Buddhism and Tao give some of the best methods for fulfilling that in our responsible adult lives: Namaste brothers, this practice has a sacred dimension for all who care to feel it and respect it and share it with others.

    Blessings abound! We are working holy ground!

    Profound peace and grace can be found, here...

    all the emergent ecstasies of Universal Love arise and enlighten and reconnect all

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • the first and Great comman in christian teaching is not the golden rule, but to Love the Lord Thy God, with all thy heart, soul, mind and stregth.  the Golden rule is second.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,481
    Hi Ray, and thank you!!

    And we are not at all far apart. You are correct in order of statement, for they are stated together, with great purpose I believe. As presented they are a great reminder of Jesus' repeated admonitions to recognize that the kingdom is within us, not the external world, to recognize the holy spirit however small within each other.

    The other powerful manifestation for treating the Golden Rule as one indivisible from full spectrum love for/of God, is that The Golden Rule is explicitly common ground for and found in all the major religions and spiritual traditions, and further, in the philosophical basis of secular humanism. It is the commandment to operationalize, on Earth as in heaven, the first part of the Christ Commandment, in my humble reading/opinion. This offering from my science-as-the-new-revelation liberal universalist perspective...

    Here at Aneros, our full prostate awakening community invites us to bask together in the opening energies of each of us as we find our full spectrum. Namaste, the spirit energies in me feel/see the spirit energies in you, as we greet, share and chat here.

    all blessings of the kingdom within, equally ALL in all, as we find our inner spirit energies of whole being all

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • Badger
    Posts: 648

    I agree with RayMitchell; by loving God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and treating others like you want to be treated, all things will be given to you in good time.

    I have determined that there are two Rules:  God's Golden Rule, and man's Gold Rule (whoever has the gold, makes the rules).

    Aneros usage is quite similar to following God.  In 1 Kings 19:11-12, "11) The LORD said, "Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD,
    for the LORD is about to pass by." Then a great and powerful wind tore the
    mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in
    the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the
    earthquake.  12) After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after
    the fire came a gentle whisper."  In a similar way, the Aneros does not start with a powerful wind (unless you used the wrong lube), nor in an earthquake or fire, but a small, quiet voice deep within your body.  Listen to that, and like with the voice of God, focus on it and pay attention to it.  Before long, you'll feel the earthquake and fire within you as it grows and become pitched and tossed about by it.  Patience, paying attention to that small, quiet voice and following it to conclusion is paramount to both.

  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 860
    Nice analogy badger!
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,481
    All together now Badger and agree ineverknew!!!

    And I find Exodus 33:21-23 quite interesting in our sensing this connection: "21. And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22. And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23. And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen."

    Here in the place of the revelation of the back parts....

    all blessings abound all

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 570
    RayMitchell said:

    the first and Great command in christian teaching is not the golden rule, but to Love the Lord Thy God, with all thy heart, soul, mind and stregth.  the Golden rule is second.

    Actually, it's

    1. Love God.
    2. Love your neighbour as yourself.

    That's not quite the same as "Do unto others as you'd have them do to you."
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,481
    Indeed twlltin!!  :) :)

    And yet, they both have the same moral/ethical/divine-intention/faith-law backbone, and both direct us to a mutual integrity requirement, in my humble submission. They are restatements of parts of the same elephant in the room for us all.

    artform

    as we rewire
    we are all reconnected

  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    Just to expand "love your neighbor as yourself"
    You can only love your neighbor to the same level as you can love yourself. The ability to love oneself is the critical condition. This is often overlooked. If we are unable to love ourselves then the love of the other will be flawed. Often our care of others who are/seem less fortunate disempowers them even more. These two commands are like a "sutra" they have as many levels as you are able to discover.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    I agree with @isvara on self-love or "self-loving" when it comes to various types of auto-eroticism, of which masturbation is perhaps the epitome. When I began my Aneros sessions in early June 2012, it took me a few weeks before I began to enjoy them. Soon after I began to hunger for them, especially I became adept at using the larger Aneros models such as Maximus and Progasm.

    I believe most people would agree that along with self-loving comes lust which energizes various types of auto-eroticism or sex with a partner. For me, my Aneros sessions are a very private matter which I do not share with people here at all. But I do have a buddy here who knows of my Aneros sessions and is supportive of my journey. But he is an un-churched humanist.

    I am a parishioner at a mainline Presbyterian church here, but most people at my church are elderly and very conservative in their lifestyle. Telling people at church about the Aneros would be out of place and it is generally not a topic for polite company.

    Most religions, including Christianity, arose several millennia before the rise of modern medicine in the 1700's or 1800's in the West. Yet it took a Japanese urologist steeped in oriental medicine who developed the Aneros as a medical device. Using the Aneros not only has improved my prostate health but also has enhanced many fold the long walks I take about my city.

    Finally working with the Aneros as I do is highly therapeutic and self-affirming. I have a lady friend who compliments me for my vibrant health. However I prefer to keep the source of my good health a well-kept secret :)

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • Badger
    Posts: 648
    Oddly, the Puritans, who are routinely excoriated for being prudes and repressed sexual mores, were probably some of the horniest horndogs that ever walked the earth; I've heard that the sexual exploits between husband and wife in the Puritan Church would cause the likes of Hugh Hefner, Ron Jeremy et.al. to blush.  They REALLY enjoyed their sex.  Somehow, that knowledge was lost to many.  There are many good, Bible-thumping churches out there that are very Biblical about sex in marriage, and believe me, it's all good.  It's the Judahizers and Agnostics and other such deniers (of sex) that infiltrated many Churches and gave them all a bad name.
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    Very interesting comment, Badger. Seems as if our sex/guilt stuff may be a "Victorian" overlay.

    Maybe it was from women asserting control over their bodies. Fear of pregnancy, looking for more responsibility from men re sexual consequences that generally females had to carry, including death in child birth. My partner says in her teens (before the pill) pregnancy was an incredible fear. It would destroy a girls future.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    @isvara and @Badger, both my parents came from Victorian families and their sexual upbringing or lack thereof was Victorian. My dad grew up on a dairy farm. He was clueless of the facts of life. It took a farmhand who showed my dad how to masturbate at age 16.

    My parents, especially my mother, tried with their whole might to impose Victorian strictures upon me during my adolescence. They even enlisted the help of my personal physician, a homophobic and uptight doctor who had just retired from the U.S. Navy. The doctor infused me with guilt over my masturbation practices. In fact, the guilt I suffered made me physically sick. But I was determined to free myself of such guilt. Going six hundred miles away to college was one of the best things that happened to me.

    Speaking of sexual license, the Puritans in New England were well known of their practice of bundling.

    As regards religious practice (in my case, Christianity) and my Aneros session, each has its proper place. The Aneros with its health-promoting effects has enhanced my religious belief at a deep level.

    However, my religious belief is an extremely private matter here in secular Washington, DC. I do believe fervently in the power of intercessory prayer. Right now I have two extra and unwanted Progasm Black Ices ordered from the Internet from sellers who do not know the difference between Progasm Classic in Black (WHICH I VERY MUCH WANT) and Progasm Black Ice. My prayers in this regard go like this: "Surely there must be a man somewhere in the world who is looking for a Progasm Black Ice at discount. God help me find such a man!"

    If you are such a man and who know a man who is looking for a Progasm Black Ice, please let me know. Please send me a private message.

    Thank you,

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    BigGlandsDC, perhaps alter the prayer to a more powerful form of thanksgiving that the Black Ice has been sold. Then be patient and allow it to happen. Perhaps alter the posts to reflect the fantastic totally new Ice you have available.
    If I remember correctly from time to time there have been folk seeking a reduced price Aneros in this forum.
  • BigGlansDC
    Posts: 634
    Hi @isvara, I shall take your advice in altering my pleading prayers to one of thanksgiving that both Black Ices have been sold. I will endeavor to be patient and let it happen. Prospective buyers looking for Progasm Ice at bargain prices are coming my way right now!
  • Badger
    Posts: 648

    From my studies in Sects and Cults in Sunday School from my younger days, bundling, I believe, was predominantly utilized by the Amish, who have some very odd courting mores.  I find it incredulous, DC, that your dad and the Amish, who were around farm animals all the time and involved with the husbandry of such animals, would be so ignorant and naive about sex, but amazingly, they were, and still are.

     

    I remember hearing about a young Amish couple who had been married for several years, and had no children yet.  A trusted modern doctor was called in, and he discovered that they'd never had sex; they had absolutely no clue how to make babies!

  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    @Badger, I did not think "conditioning" could be so strong that it could over come physiology. Wow that is scary!!