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The Arousal Key (Feedback Loop Multiplier)
  • The Arousal Key (Feedback Loop Multiplier)

    I'm a newbie who just bought a Helix-Syn last week and am already having tremendous results.
    My sessions are lasting about 90 minutes and for almost the entire time, I am laying there panting, jerking, and quivering  like a blob of jello with all kinds of powerful contractions occuring pretty much almost continuously .
    Hey, I said I was getting good results, right?

    I don't want to sound like a know-it-all because I'm new here, and I've only posted a few comments so far in my 1 previous post.
    But I think I know a secret! And I'd like to share it with you.
    Well this might not be a real secret, but I believe it could be that some people might not be attaching enough significance to this aspect of the Aneros experience.
    I am going to paste a few small snippets from my other post in this one in case someone doesn't see the other one. After adding it to the other post, I realized people might miss it because the title of the other post was not really about this. And I believe it is important enough to warrant it's own post.
    So here goes (please forgive my ramblings).
    I believe that if you are not aroused enough, you could sit around all day long with an Aneros up your bum, and the most fun you might have is watching Captain Kangaroo. The aneros needs you to be in a somewhat 'receptive' mood for your body to want to 'listen' to it.
    I'm not a scientist, but I believe that now having experienced this and done some experimentation, I think I know how it works now (at least for me). And the secret has got to be the perenium abutment tab (along with a high state of arousal).

    BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS ANOTHER MAJOR, MAJOR FACTOR HERE. I KNOW IT IS TRUE AND IT WORKS FOR ME.
    I THINK BY BEING VERY VERY AROUSED (AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET) BEFORE USING THE ANEROS IS A KEY IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE!

    Every time the prostate causes the anus to contract, the perenium
    abutment tab presses on the perenium. That stimulates your prostate to
    contract your anus again. Which of course makes the perenium abutment
    tab press on your perenium again.
    This is (part of) the feedback loop. BUT, if you are not aroused enough, the press of the abutment tab does not cause enough of a stimulation to your prostate for it to want to contract your anus again (as strongly as before, OR STRONGER STILL, WHICH WE WANT), and then the involuntary contractions (IC's) will start to die down, instead of ramping up and sending you to the moon.
    Think of it as more energy leaving the feedback loop (an anal contraction) than is being fed back into it, caused by: a weak stimulation of the prostate by the abutment tab, AND YOUR MIND'S LACK OF AROUSAL, and normal shallow breathing which really doesn't do much for the feedback loop.
    HOWEVER, if you are highly aroused, there is more energy entering the feedback loop than is being lost because: every time your anus contracts now, when the abutment tab presses on the perenium, the perenium senses this as more of a stimulation than before, and that (more strongly) stimulates your prostate to
    contract your anus again (stronger than before probably). Which of course makes the perenium abutment
    tab press on your perenium again (again, stronger than it was before probably).

    You know... (just for an example). Say for instance you are in a club, and you pick up a woman early. She is soooo fine! She is the finest looking woman you have seen in a long, long time! YOU ARE SO LUCKY! She is actually with you all night long. You're getting soooo aroused and you know she is too. You KNOW she likes you a lot. The club closes. She invites you home with her! Hot Damn! You almost cum in your pants when she asks if you want to come home with her.
    So you're at her place. Things are starting to steam up. You KNOW you're going to get lucky tonight! AND SHE IS SOOO FINE! She starts to take your pants off, and right there...
    YOUR BODY IS HUMMING LIKE AN ELECTRIC WIRE!!! IF SHE EVEN JUST TOUCHES YOU, YOU WILL PROBABLY EXPLODE!
    Does everyone know what I'm talking about? Sure. OK. You just did that to yourself with nothing more than your thoughts of fun to come.
    THIS IS THE STATE YOU WANT TO BE IN BEFORE YOU USE THE ANEROS. Or as close as you can get.

    Here's my take on this.
    First, some ramblings:
    Lets say you perform physical labor outside for example.
    You're busy working and you scratch your balls. Why don't you get aroused right there? Because you are working and YOUR MIND KNOWS THIS, and it knows that what your balls feel is NOT a feeling that should be interpreted as an arousal signal. In fact, even if you started to play around with yourself WHILE YOU ARE BUSY WORKING OR THINKING WORK THOUGHTS, it would probably take a good bit of work to get erect or aroused. Depending on the work situation, it might be impossible.
    Why is this so? Because your mind knows you are really working, and, IT HAS SHUT DOWN YOUR AROUSAL CIRCUITRY. This means that any feelings or sensations it receives from sexual parts of your body are interpreted with a filter that filters out the arousing aspect of the feeling. So scratching your balls is interpreted as just that, scratching your balls.
    OK, now lets say that 15 minutes later a gorgeous woman comes by. Now, you're still working. BUT, She is really fine looking! And she is dressed very provocatively! WOW, what a turn on! Damn is she fine! You're really checking her out. What a fine looking woman! You're starting to get aroused just thinking about her. And you are getting a raging erection too!
    Well guess what, those work thoughts just got pushed to as far back in your brain as it was possible for them to be pushed. And YOUR AROUSAL CIRCUITRY HAS JUST BEEN SWITCHED FULLY ON. And your body has, in pretty much the blink of an eye, started producing chemicals designed to not only arouse you further, but they are also designed to shift the organs in your body into a sexually oriented mode.
    So now, a scratching of the balls is not interpreted as just a scratching of the balls, it is interpreted as ANOTHER SENSATION TO BE PROCESSED (and included) AS PART OF THE FEEDBACK LOOP that is heightening your arousal factor. In fact, if you were aroused enough, that scratch to the balls just might be enough to send you over the edge!
    YOUR BRAIN IS PART OF THE FEEDBACK LOOP! The main part!!! if you are not in arousal mode, the Aneros might not feel like what you want it to feel like. It might just feel like poking a stick up your ass. LOL
    It is possible to have wet dreams in which YOUR MIND ALONE took you from sleeping mode, all the way to being aroused so much that you end up cumming IN YOUR SLEEP!!!
    If that doesn't prove that your mind is the most important and powerful factor involved in the arousal process, I don't know what will!
    If you are aroused enough, I believe that any sensations occuring with the Aneros are MAGNIFIED / MULTIPLIED in the feedback loop.
    If you are aroused enough, you don't need much help cumming at all really.
    By the way, I think the feedback loop is: YOUR MIND, Your Prostate, The Perenium Tab, and all the different muscles in your body that you can manipulate into stimulating your prostate.
    When I'm aroused, if I poke my perenium (even moderately), my anus clenches once.
    I believe that you have to be up to a certain level of arousal before the chain reaction is self-sustaining. Like reaching critical mass slowly.
    I lay on my left side with my legs tucked in a bit because I think you are able to squeeze your prostate better like that, especially when you're breathing a certain way.
    I believe in that position, when you take a breath, especially a lower torso type breath, it really has an impact on your prostate. So in addition to the perenium tab stimulating you, when you breathe you are really causing pressure on your prostate too; Because you are curled almost into a ball, and your prostate is trapped in the middle of that ball of different muscles that you're using to try to stimulate it.
    And when you pant, or do a ratcheting type of breathing, you're really pumping and squeezing your prostate a lot!
    THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT FEEDBACK LOOP TOO.
    Here's another example.
    In my other post (check it out) I mentioned that I had just had a session in which I did some self-bondage with an Aneros. I highly recommend it! I was strapped down on my back to a piece of furniture and could not move my arms or legs or pretty much anything else while the Helix-Syn was doing it's thing.
    Without going into too many details, I strapped myself in and inserted the Helix. I laid back for a minute and relaxed and started to breathe slowly and deeply. I could feel something faint starting to happen. I could feel some small contractions starting to occur by themselves.
    I put my arms in the straps, and pulled the 2 trigger strings which released the bungie cords and tightened the straps on my arms and elbows.

    So I close my eyes and I'm laying there for a few seconds, and I start to think, 'Oh, Oh...What happens if this session is too intense and powerful?
    Well the Helix is starting to work now and I am starting to get some fairly good contractions just starting to happen.
    I start to get a little scared because my previous 4 sessions were so GOOD and INTENSE and POWERFUL!
    I'm starting to have second thoughts now! Can I handle this? I'm thinking now, maybe I shouldn't do this...
    Forgetting for a second that my arms and elbows are restrained and that the chest strap will prevent me from sitting up, I try to sit up and realize I can't.
    I instantly realize that I can't move my arms either! That's right! I'm all strapped in! IT'S TOO LATE NOW! I can't get out! I am stuck here now until the ice cubes melt!
    AS SOON AS I REALIZE THAT I CAN'T GET OUT, MY AROUSAL LEVEL SHOOTS THROUGH THE ROOF!!!
    And almost immediately I start getting hit by POWERFUL CONTRACTIONS! Like I said in my other post, it's like Morse Code!
    I START JERKING AND QUIVERING AND PANTING AND STRAINING AGAINST THE STRAPS, BUT I CAN'T GET OUT!
    MY AROUSAL LEVEL INCREASES AGAIN! AND AGAIN!
    I know that I can't get out and make it stop and that fact keeps jacking up the arousal level! Man, my penis is really dripping pre-cum too.
    That session was the BEST so far BY FAR!
    I gotta tell you, it really AROUSED ME KNOWING, I mean REALLY KNOWING, that no matter how intense (and good!) it got, once I pulled those trigger strings, I was a prisoner of the Aneros, because there was no way out until the ice cubes melted.

    I was (pretending) looking at it as if some Dominatrix had tied me up and was REALLY teasing me and I had NO WAY TO STOP IT from happening. All I had to do was close my eyes and It didn't take much imagination to pretend that was happening.

    I MUST STRESS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SELF-BONDAGE, THAT YOU FOLLOW SAFE PRACTICES TO ENSURE THAT YOU DON'T END UP ON THE 11 O'CLOCK NEWS !

    All of this proves (at least to me) that A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF AROUSAL IS THE KEY!

    I hope this was informational and helpful.

  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    @SimplyUnbelievable,

    I am glad you have grasped the importance of high arousal levels but it is hardly a secret. The Aneros WIKI touches upon this in the Getting Started - Arousal paragraphs. It has also been discussed in numerous other threads such as Are you "Aroused"? & Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence. Arousal or lack thereof was also listed (see item #6) in the thread Identifying Obstacles to Progress.
    image Good Vibes to You ! image
  • Hi rumel. Yes I did see the Getting Started - Arousal article as one of the first ones I read here. I guess I missed those other ones.
    I didn't mean to sound like I knew something important that no one else did. I was just trying to impart something I experienced firsthand that reinforced the importance of the arousal process.
    I did read that first article earlier. And I understood what it was saying. But it sort of drifted to the back of my mind as I began to read all of these other posts and I might have allowed some of it's significance to wane. I guess I was thinking that could have happened with others, and I just wanted to let everyone know to NOT FORGET about that aspect of it. Because after I saw myself how important it was, I realized that I had forgotten about that article myself.
  • Im going to preface this with, I dont know what im talking about lol.  But I think there are two kinds of arousal.  mental arousal and prostate arousal if thats possible.  My example would be the other night, it was usually a day I use my aneros, but it was late and I was tired, i guess not really in the mood to mess with it.  But my prostate was fired up so to say, fluttering and going crazy.  I tried for the longest time to just ignore the feelings as I really wasnt in the mood, but after a while the feelings started to intensify to the point where I just gave in and let them flow.  Suffice to say I had one of the best aneroless sessions to date.  I'm still not even sure what happened, almost like dry O's but not as intense on a physical level but much more powerful on a mental level.  Either way does this make any sense?  
    Also for me, when I am using my helix or whatever tool, i try to get aroused before hand.  But i tend to have the best O's when im least expecting them, when im no longer turned on and tired, almost falling asleep.  
  • great read. I enjoyed it!
    I just dont know how to get aroused. Porn does nothing for me. The only time I get painfully aroused is when Im making out with my girlfriend, and she does not know about aneros yet. I dont know what to do exactly, but ill still just try and hve some fun:)
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    @MMO_RPGlol. Interesting comment. I find it difficult to get aroused as I have always linked arousal with erection. At my age spontaneous erections are history so I don't know what arousal is. Yes I am always interested. Erotic videos increase my interest but I would not called that aroused. When my prostate engorges and presses againt the aneros it feels good but is that arousal. No need to reply but it is a dilemma.
  • @isvara I almost feel like spontaneous erections are more of a curse than a blessing. I am 19 and they happen far too often and distract me from the feelings on my prostate. I really wish it had an off switch.

    Whenever i'm around my girlfriend I feel aroused. I feel completely awake and full of sexual energy. It is the typpe of arousal that comes from within my mind, moreso than the feeling of arousal that I feel when I have a strong boner. It's a mental lust for someone, and even tho I am still completely and totally a virgin, just imagining her amazing double D breasts and perfectly tight butt make me go wild. There have been times where we were talking and lightly kissing where my prostate was buzzing. It was humming and pulsing. I know if i could have that same level of prostate awareness when im ready with my helix, i would probably have lots of progress, but I just cant cultivate it without her.:(
  • isvara
    Posts: 578
    @MMO_RPGlol, that sounds so good. At 19 enjoy you arousal with your GF. Plenty of time to perfect the Aneros. I remember feeling the same as you with my GFs but in those days I did not know I had a prostate to enjoy. I think the GF experience is where you are, but, you also have a helix to play with and also have the knowledge of what is possible. Thank you for making me remember my arousal. I will work on it.
  • stumpy
    Posts: 140
    While arousal is sometimes key before a session, especially in early stages of awakening, I've found that being completely relaxed but focused with the my Aneros in place quickly becomes arousal enough.

    Everyone's journey is completely different though. I encourage everyone to try multiple approaches at every stages, all with no expectations, as they bring on different sensations and different levels of awareness.

  • stumpy
    Posts: 140
    Also that was a lot of reading. Sometimes less is more...
  • lately ive noticed that if I try to arouse myself while using my helix, feels like im chasing it and nothing much seems to happen, but if I get aroused before hand, the best things happen when it feels like im not even aroused at all.  Makes no sense to me, but oh well, as long as it works.  But yeah different approaches will yield different results, best to try different things.