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Hands Free Prostatic Emission?
  •      Well maybe not entirely hands free.  But I have been noticing something within the past couple of months that I thought I might share.  Early on with the aneros I would regularly add nipple stimulation into the session to help things along.  Now I have actually shied away from that entirely because if i add nipple stim to my session I feel it takes away from the feelings in my prostate region, a distraction.  Instead, I can produce fantastic prostate sensations my stimulating my nipples without the device, usually whilst watching porn.  These sessions have gotten to be very powerful, very orgasmic, sometimes even on the same level of pleasure as my aneros sessions!
         Anyway, sometimes during these sessions I will get so aroused that my prostate starts spasming and my body will naturally produce a pushing sensation down there as my dick is hard and my muscles contract.  If strong enough, I will eject this clear fluid - liquidy but slippery, tasteless, and odorless.  After this happens I will still be very aroused and my dick will not even go flaccid.  It is NOT a traditional ejaculation.  I assume this is a forced prostatic emission from being so aroused?  I feel this is more likely to happen when I have had good aneros sessions recently and have been building me fluids for a couple of days at least, though I haven't paid enough attention to be 100% sure.  Anyone experience the same phenomenon?
  • Linum
    Posts: 186
    Yes - I experience the same thing AllInTheMind.

    I call them (jokingly) "non-ejaculatory ejaculations", because there is no refractory period, and I can continue hard indefinitely.

    I also find that my aneros-less sessions are as intense as the aneros-inspired ones, although there are differences - the key one being that I don't tend to get many erections (at the moment) with my aneros inserted - which is not a negative in terms of the sensations produced.

    I don't tend to watch porn in these aneros-less sessions, but I do nipple stimulation, and I do masturbate as well. I practice temporary ejaculatory abstinence.  I have had the orgasmic sensations run together into a continuous dry-orgasm, the longest lasting 20 minutes.

    What is the mechanism behind this non-ejaculatory ejaculation?  I am not entirely sure, but I do occasionally suffer from blue ball syndrome, which is where the blood supply and seminal ducts become congested.  If I allow my erection to subside, and I relax for a few minutes, I can then begin to masturbate once more, and quite often I will get these non-ejaculatory ejaculations.  I can feel the fluid being pushed out, and if I clamp my PC and anal muscles at the same time (sometimes voluntary, sometimes not, sometimes a bit of both) I will shoot a great wodge of mostly precum right across my body.  The blue ball syndrome is avoided, and my dry orgasms intensify once the congestion has gone.

    Had some brilliant sex recently, where I dry orgasmed hundreds of times over a 6 hour period.  I also had a non-ejaculatory ejaculation, which surprised my partner - even more when I continued having sex because there was no refractory period.
  • XilehXileh
    Posts: 353
    How much fluid, is it a surprising amount? Is it watery?

    Xileh
  • Yes watery, no not a large amount.  The one I had yesterday was actually the largest quantity I have had thus far, enough to dribble for a bit but nothing close to what would come out in a traditional ejaculation.  I guess it would make given the quantity and nature of the fluid that it would be precum (cowpers?).  I actually woke up in the morning to an ejaculation, I must have been really aroused from the previous night because I haven't even been "saving" for that long (2 days).
  • Linum
    Posts: 186
    For me it is definitely precum (not urine) - lots of it - perhaps more than I would produce for a normal ejaculatory orgasm.  It is not exclusively precum however, because there may also be some cum in there too.  After 10 days of ejaculatory abstinence, there was a lot more cum, but still a lot of precum.  In my recent sexual encounter it was exclusively precum, and that was 12 days into my ejaculatory abstinence.  I suspect that the extra cum on day 10 could have been due to having been "edging" for quite a while.

    AllInTheMind - do you precum during normal masturbation or sex? Are these emissions the same as this, or wouldn't you know?
  • The emissions seem to be very much the same as precum.  However I (unfortunately) do not precum during masturbation or sex, if anything a tiny drop or two will emerge.  The most that would emerge is several drops during the most intense aneros sessions.  So this natural tendency for me would explain the relatively low amounts that come out during this moment of intensity, but I would say it is easily 5-10x what would come out through any other means.  Yah it is definitely not urine as it does not smell so or have the salty taste, it was a question of precum or prostate fluid, but in light of your answer precum makes more sense.  Though I have to say, as with everything I am certainly curious as to the mechanisms behind this.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    AllInTheMind,

    From your description, "...this clear fluid - liquidy but slippery, tasteless, and odorless." emission is most likely pre-ejaculate (precum) from the Bulbourethral (Cowper's) gland. This is not unusual, many men have reported increased precum emissions from Aneros practice. Whether one does or does not have increased emissions is an individual male variation and is not indicative of any practice deficiencies.

    High arousal levels seem to increase Cowper's gland fluid production, thus your notation of the effect. The Cowper's gland seems to respond more readily to psychological stimulation than the other sexual organs, hence just thinking about sex can start the flow.

    You may also experience from time to time some prostatic fluid emissions, this is a "milking" effect. As the Aneros massager moves during contractions, it is not only massaging the prostate but is simultaneously massaging the Cowper's gland as well, adding just that much more stimulation to your arousal.

    As long as you don't have a traditional ejaculation, which triggers a hormonal response, then you shouldn't experience a refractory period and subsequent rapid loss of arousal.
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  • Linum
    Posts: 186
    I would echo what Rumel says.  I certainly have increased precum production now, as compared to before aneros use.

    Because of positive feedback from during my aneros sessions, and because of ejaculatory abstinence, I do find that I can now generate higher arousal levels than ever before, and this must have a feedback on precum production.  The aneros has been described before as a kind of "tantric training wheel", and I suspect that it has trained me to the point where even without the aneros, I now produce occasionally copious quantities of precum.

    For me there are lots of new discoveries to be made.  One CAN ejaculate without having a wet orgasm, and a refractory period.  One can orgasm repeatedly, and sometimes continuously, and in differing parts or all of one's body. One can be highly aroused, and have a dry orgasm or more, even without an erection.  All the (relatively boring) certainties of my pre-aneros life have been thrown out and replaced with a myriad of alternative possibilities.  Isn't life wonderful?
  • XilehXileh
    Posts: 353
    Since your emmision is watery, clear, and slippery, it may also be seminal vesicle fluid. The volume ejected can be surprising and fun. Cowpers fluid tends to be more viscous and less of it.

    Enjoy!
    Xileh

  • Allin the mind and other guys on here with similar experience, I wonder if what you are referring to is addressed in a thread down the line from here: 
    Off Topic: Male Version of Female Ejaculation (Squirting)  


  • (Didn't know how to get rid of large bold print in last post, so I continue here.)  I don't know if it is in there (can't take time to read it) as you can see it has been going a long time and only recently brought forward, or elsewhere I read quite awhile ago, that there is a, not sure the correct term is, organ, gland? in our plumbing that emits the fluid you all might be talking about.  There was in what I read, and it might be in this thread in some of the references in red, a picture of that whole anatomy in there where prostate, bladder, etc. etc are, showing this part of the anatomy that produces and emits this stuff, which as I recall is more watery than pre-cum and maybe therefore not as slippery.
  • Linum
    Posts: 186
    Had a precum "ejaculation" this morning, followed about half an hour later by something altogether more watery.  I had been for a pee previously, and don't think it was urine, and so Xileh's seminal vesicle fluid might be the cause. I had 3 "ejaculations" of this that hit my face and the pillow (I was in bed) and it felt good too.  I carried on wanking myself to dry orgasms for some 15 minutes after  and so there was no refractory period.  The dry orgasms get more intense after such "emissions".  There is no blue ball syndrome after such emissions.

    Paulsp - I'll have another look at that thread - I read some of it in the past and thought it slightly different, but I will have another look.
  • Linur et al "
     Xileh's seminal vesicle fluid " is exactly the term I was looking for and referring to.  I'm not sure it's in that thread, but it was mentioned in a thread on here quite awhile ago.  So the seminal vesicle is where the fluid cums from.  Whoops, I did mean "comes from."  Bad habit I have aquired.  I've becum amazed at how often I use the word come or a derivative of it, and need to be careful how I spell in writing to whom I'm writing!
  • XilehXileh
    Posts: 353
    Sounds like "male squirting". I have pretty much the same experience as Linum. I have multiple ejaculations, the quantity is surprisingly large, ejects with surprising force (and distance), is delightfully slippery, and feels good. It happens to me hands free, usually after an hour or longer session. A large towel is a good idea!

    Xileh