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  • View Poll Results: Pegging? Voters: 97

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    Never. No way. Forget it 4 4.12%

    Maybe, maybe not 6 6.19%

    I would if she asked me to 34 35.05%

    We did it - don't anymore 7 7.22%

    Yes, we do it regularly 21 21.65%

    I've asked, and she won't 8 8.25%

    I'm afraid to ask 17 17.53%

  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    neubie! I'm glad you found the Annie O and enjoy it as much as I do.
    I suspected they were going down - I really hope someone buys their business for all of us leather harness lovers. There is nothing I have found quite like the Outlaw design - but surely one of the other harness makers are working on it.

    Dildo - Many guys like the Mistress just fine and never want to go larger. I like that it's long enough to do some major thrusting when desired without falling out (which is why I would not recommend anything less than 6" in length for beginners; too limiting for positions and thrusting).

    Yes - learning the mechanics of screwing definitely takes time. You'll get there, and have a lot of fun practicing. Another position you might want to try that still leaves you in control and requires minimum skill on her part is the chair without arms. Here is a photo:

    http://peggingparadise.com/blog/2012/05/day-14-orgasm-14/

    I love the image of her texting you that photo - very hot.

    Outlaw has this for cleaning:

    How do I wash my harness?
    In washing your harness, we recommend removing any dildos, detachable rings, unsnapping all the snaps, and rinsing your harness under warm water using your hands and a little anti-bacterial soap. Using abrasive cloths or sponges my affect the surface of the leather.
    Drying with a hair-dryer (set on cold) and hanging dry for 4-6 hours (completely unsnapped to prevent rusting metal parts) is the most thorough and recommended method of drying out your harness. Otherwise, dry the harness with a soft cloth or towel and hang dry.
    We also recommend using leather lotion and/or protectant on your harness (both the leather and the metal parts). There are several different kinds on the market, but a good rule of thumb is this: if it's good for your skin, it's good for the leather. Stay away from harmful chemicals or scented products, and be aware that the colors may change on brightly colored harnesses.
    Please note: All leather is porous and can never be completely sterilized. We recommend using different harnesses for different sexual partners.

    Looking forward to hearing about testing the harness with both dildos...

    All the Best,
    Ruby
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Congrats, Mr. and Mrs. neubie.

    Wow, you guys really got off to a hot start (pun intended). My wife and I took at least 5 tries before we had the hardware, position and technique all more or less working. Now it's been almost a year of regular pegging for us and we're still learning. I have to say, the practicing is a lot of fun.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    rikaaim!
    This is such a funny photo!! Notice the butt plug in the corner and the lube and handcuffs on the floor. Plus - the cat!
    Here is another one:
    http://peggingparadise.com/blog/2011/09/priceless/
  • SteelColdiron
    Posts: 229
    Ruby, I did not notice the small things you pointed out, but I will say, i have a favorite now that I looked really close in my picture. The scale. That's right, the scale. It seems as if the cat, with the tri-pod and camera, vibrator on the floor, butt plugg (as you mentioned) in the corner, dildo on the vanity, and everything else seems about right. So, why the bathroom scale?

    In your photo, it's all about the candy apple. I totally get the chocolate syrup even, but the candy apple? Eeep! and WTF?! LOL Love it!

    Edited to say: I didn't even scroll down in the pic until after I posted this. Then I noticed you said the exact same thing about the candy apple! Too funny! Great minds...eh Ruby? ;)
  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    I know, right?
    So THAT'S what that is - the scale. Couldn't figure it out (and didn't zoom in). Wish I could snatch that cigarette out of Barbie's mouth, though...
  • Badger
    Posts: 652
    [QUOTE=Ruby Ryder;47705]Wish I could snatch that cigarette out of Barbie's mouth, though...

    I'll wager that cigarette with holder is from a very old Barbie set, circa late '50s to early '60s, and probably quite rare.

    What I'd like to know is where did they find scaled-down, realistic dildo? Did someone take the time to carefully hand carve those veins in it?

    On the other photo, I too, would like to know what they were planning to do with the candied apple; maybe use it to sugar their pubic hair?
  • SteelColdiron
    Posts: 229
    Well, I think a realistic use for the candy apple would be a form of ball gag. It's big enough and would be very difficult to spit out once Barbie forces Ken to bite down into it. In that scene, Ken doesn't seem overly eager, and Barbie definitely has a more Domme stance to her. So, I could see an improv ball gag.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Thanks, Ruby!

    Great erotic writing, as usual. You should write a book.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    Working on it, Dave!
    Thanks - glad you enjoyed it.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Ruby and other readers;

    After a year of regular pegging, we experienced a new thing two nights ago. Usually, I need her hand to climax, although once, face down on a towel, friction did it for me. This time, face to face missionary style, just the gentle rhythmic touch of her belly on my dick got me off while she fucked me energetically. My wife had some mini-Os, but still no big O while pegging. I guess we need more practice. :)

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • priapusonepriapusone
    Posts: 257
    Sounds like you guys are getting there, though! :)
  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    You are indeed getting there!
    ...I aspire to that when I have a partner at some point. :-/
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Ruby;

    I wish you the best of luck finding the right partner. It's a really difficult thing, getting a match that works on all levels. Fortunately, my third wife is a "keeper." The first two I chalked up to being a slow learner.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • Ruby RyderRuby Ryder
    Posts: 95
    Dave - That's so good to hear. My first two didn't take, either...but then again I was choosing projects so I have been a slow learner, too. I'm hoping the third time is the charm.

    Best,
    Ruby
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Hello, all.

    A recent Aneros chat session made me realize that there is a strange dichotomy involved in prostate orgasms, both small and super. The point was made, correctly, that you cannot force or pursue the Aneros Super-O; you have to let it "do" you. No manual handling of the tool allowed. Many of the members here have commented that the harder they tried to have a Super-O, the less successful they were. That seems to be the case and is reinforced by the Aneros Wiki's procedures and many admonitions by senior members here. My own experience is that I have to let the Super-O just happen. It's almost like an out-of-body experience.

    On the other hand, I've had some incredible Super-Os while being pegged. Instead of the gentle internal caress or minimal-motion auto-fuck during an Aneros session, my wife drives her dildo hard and fast, really shaking up the entire pelvic region. My prostate gets one hell of a pounding. All that activity doesn't cause the Super-O to become elusive at all.

    I don't have any explanation for why prostate stimulation can work at both extremes of manipulation, but thought it worth mentioning since many here use both Aneros toys and conventional dildos. Similar experiences?

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    [QUOTE=ten_s_nut;48269]I don't have any explanation for why prostate stimulation can work at both extremes of manipulation, but thought it worth mentioning since many here use both Aneros toys and conventional dildos. Similar experiences?
    Dave,

    As I have often mentioned, IMHO, the Aneros Super-O experience is more than 90% a mental exercise which requires one to 'Just Let Go' of ego directed control. Likewise, when being 'pegged', I think one has also ceded his ego control issues by placing trust in his partner. In both situations, conscious control has been suspended, allowing the body to respond to the stimulation in a non-traditional (male directed, aggressive) manner. I suspect once one has experienced a Super-O through either approach, Anerosession or pegging, the Super-O state of mind may also be induced through various other activities (e.g. nipple stimulation) as well, so long as one is willing to adopt a passive, non-ego control/driven attitude.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Excellent point, rumel.

    I think you've identified why it's not the mechanics of sex that matter, but the mental attitude, unless there's an underlying physical pathology, like nerve damage. If it's true that the user's mindset is the main ingredient of success for prostate orgasms, the people who market sex toys like Aneros have a problem. They can sell the hardware easily enough, but the software has to be obtained elsewhere. Perhaps the instructions that are packaged with Aneros should say somehthing about this issue.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    So last night I got to try my new Fun Factory Share. Although solo, not with a partner. So this is my initial review about it from the male receiving end perspective. Keep in mind my point of view may be biased as my only other dildo to compare it to is my Feeldoe More. And I've used that many times and have gotten used to it. Where as I only have one session with the Share so far.

    First impressions before actually trying it are that I like the softer silicone (as compared to the traditional Feeldoe models) as it has some flexibility and give. Although the finish is a textured matte, as opposed to the smooth shiny finish on the Feeldoe models. The silicone in the Share doesn't appear to have an odor that I can detect. Where as my Feeldoe More most definitely has a chemical smell. I love the bubble gum pink color I chose! It say feminine to me and is close-ish to skin color, implying a penis, but without being skin color.

    I'm including another review as I also bought at the same time a device called the Trinity Vibes Lubricant Launcher. In terms of it's function it is the same idea as the Lubricant Applicator that they sell on the Aneros web site here, but far, far more superior for not a whole lot more money than what Aneros charges for theirs. It's only two pieces rather than three, so less to clean, and easier, and quicker to do so. But the most important part for me is the comfort of insert. Due to it's shape, it went in easily and painlessly, and dispensed the lube with no difficulty. Where as with the Lubricant Applicator that Aneros sells, I've always had difficulty with insertion being anywhere from painful to uncomfortable no matter how well I've lubed my anus prior to inserting. (and this is coming from a guy that has had five years plus of anal play, so is very experienced) It gets the job done, but it's not a great device. That applicator tip is awful. Aneros/HIH should sell the Lubricant Launcher instead. It also includes, two other applicator/syringe bodies (perhaps for multiple partners, or one for anal, one for vaginal), and a cap so you can load it with lube in advance if needed without leaking.

    Back to the Share...
    Initial insertion was difficult, but not for the reasons you'd necessarily think of trying to jam a dildo in your ass. LOL  It's more that because the silicone is so soft, the shaft tends to bend as I was trying to get it in. Once I got it in after many tries, I realized that it didn't move or go deeper into me anywhere near as easily as the Feeldoe More. It's like it would get stuck in one area, and then as I pushed or pulled on on it, it would jolt in inch or so at once rather than move smoothly. I kept trying at it, but continued to have this problem. Now keep in mind that some of this may have been my level of relaxation not being enough, and also maybe a stronger anal muscle tone from working with the Eupho lately, and not having used a dildo in a bit. Future sessions with the Share may reveal a different story as I become more familiar and experienced with it. But I also account some of this to the textured matte finish on the Share and the unusual shape of the shaft. (on a side note, this textured matte finish is probably helpful for the woman wearing the driving end to hold it in)

    So what I did was wash it off and then put a condom on it. That made it much better. But then I had problems of wrinkles/creases in the condom that were noticeably felt. Either I need to be more careful putting it on to avoid this, or the shape of the shaft just makes it not possible to go on smoothly. Anyways, I was able to insert and move it in and out much more easily with the condom on it. As I became accustomed to it, I found that even though it is smaller than the Feeldoe More, it provides just as much stimulation and sensation to my anus and prostate. The only difference is it does not go as deep, which I'm not really sold on the flared base of the shaft as being a good idea since it limits the total depth of the shaft length that can be inserted. But, it could be a non-issue. What I found unique about the sensation it provides is because of the smaller size and flexibility of the Share, it had this sort of worm like feeling in me as I thrust it in and out which reminded of a similar sensation I sometimes get with Aneros prostate massager's. I rather liked that.

    I think my future sessions with the Share will be to try and see if I can get used to and enjoy using it without a condom. If not, see if I can get a condom on it with no wrinkles. In addition to seeing if initial insertion becomes any easier.

    So that's my take on the Share. I'll update to this if I have any further insights through continued practice with it. Or if people have questions that I might be able to answer, I'd be happy to reply in this thread.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Hello, Love_is.

    I agree, the only problem with Share is the requirement for LOTS of lube and re-lube due to the matte texture. A less important issue with it is the very wide flare at the base, where it gets to be almost 2 inches in diameter. That's a stretch for me and my wife can't easily tell when she's pushed it that far.

    Cheers,

    Dave

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Thanks Dave. Have you found that you have acclimated to the textured matte finish of the Share? Does it move smoothly in and out of you? And what sort of lube are you using with the Share? I so far have only used Slippery Stuff Gel.

    I'm not bothered by the flared base of the dildo end in terms of discomfort or pain. It actually felt quite nice as I gently pushed it in farther with little thrusts. And could see that this could be another technique for the woman on the other end to gently nudge it in with pelvic thrusts. Sort of the equivalent of my experience as a guy trying to get my cock buried as deeply in the woman's pussy as possible. It's more that it limits the practical length it can go in.


  • Badger
    Posts: 652

    I’ve used my wife’s Share a few times, and used Slippery Stuff Gel; generally I used two tubes of it with my Lube Launcher, and generously coated the Share with same, and it seemed to work well.  The first time, I’d used The Plug to loosen up, and lying on my back with the Share facing both forwards and backwards, by slowly thrusting my hips and waggling my penis a few times, things snowballed really fast, and had a spectacular HFWO – biggest to record.  The next time took a little longer, and the few times after that, I could not achieve any kind of O with it inside.  I’m inclined to attribute it to a steadily bulging disk at the sacrum, which apparently impends on the nerves to the prostate, degenerating to the point where I now require surgery (which is why I haven’t been here for a while; my computer chair is a contributor to the problem).<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />


    Since my vas several years ago, I have no need to purchase condoms (and trying to justify purchasing them would not go over well), so I have no point of reference on how that might improve the slipperiness, but maybe you should get ‘snugger fit’ or ‘slender’ condoms, which should eliminate the wrinkles when applying and using them.


    Can/Dare you try Vaseline on the Share?  It’s not silicone, but I haven’t heard much on using oil-based lubes on silicone devices, mainly because women generally can’t use oil-based lubes in their vagina.  Does anybody know about using oil-based lubes on silicone devices?

  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Badger and Love_is;

    We use Vaseline covered with Walnut Oil on the Share; lots of oil. It's kind of messy but that's why the towel is on the bed. The Share moves in and out easily enough, though it does require way more lube than the Feeldoe or the Nexus Senior Double.

    Cheers,

    Dave

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    Thanks for the information and ideas guys. It's very helpful. I'll eventually try the Share with Shea butter when I get around to it. As sometimes when my Aneros sessions end, I'll try the Feeldoe. So I imagine this will happen at some point. I still haven't had a second try with the Share. Life circumstances and desire to do so get in the way at times.

    And Badger, sorry to hear about your back. I hope you get better. :)
  • Badger
    Posts: 652
    Has anyone heard of Un-petroleum Jelly?  It's mostly vitamin E, beeswax, and coconut oil, castor oil (both regular and hydrogenated).  It's on sale now for about $3 plus shipping for a 3.5 oz tube, so it doesn't seem too expensive.
  • twlltintwlltin
    Posts: 571
    That sounds a bit like the "Natural Jelly" that many of us cook up.
  • isvara
    Posts: 587
    Best thing about 'home made' Natural Jelly is you can mixed to the viscosity you want.
    10:1 beeswax and walnut oil is won't hold it's shape
    10:1 beeswax and sweet almond oil a just holds its shape for a short while
    10:1 beeswax and castor oil firmer still and will hold its shape for a while (slump in grano terms)
  • Hello, isvara.

    I'm impressed by the guys here who have enough determination to make their own lube. The off-the-shelf materials like Vaseline, Crisco, and vegetable oil are so easy to get, cheap and effective that I've never bothered cooking anything up. But I have to say, now I'm curious about whether the homemade stuff might improve an already great Aneros experience. One of these days...

    Cheers,

    Dave



  • isvara
    Posts: 587
    Oops
    I really got my mixes round the wrong way.
    10:1 beeswax and oil would rock hard and useless
    It should have read 10 oil to 1 beeswax
  • Thanks for correcting the ratio, isvara. Now I guess I have to visit the health food store to buy beeswax.

    I wonder how many of the peggers in this forum make their own lube? I'd bet the wives or GFs grab whatever lube they use in themselves for the dildo.

    Cheers,

    Dave

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    I'd bet the wives or GFs grab whatever lube they use in themselves for the dildo.

    Which is not necessarily a great idea. Particularly if the guy is sensitive to glycerin based water soluble lubes. A friend of mine who has medical training and knowledge tells me it's not even healthy to use this type of lube vaginally. Yet that is the majority, or often times the only type of water soluble lube available at local pharmacy's or grocery stores.
  • PommiePommie
    Posts: 732
    Try KY gel.

    I believe this has no glycerine and is the standard lube used by doctors and urologists everywhere. It is also freely available.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Pommie -  I looked it up, and KY Ultra Gel seems to be discontinued. If a person is going to use K-Y brand lube, assuming that it what they like, or what is available. The only non-glycerin lubes they sell are "K-Y Sensitive Jelly" which is water soluble, and "K-Y Intrigue" which is a silicone based lube.
  • Love_is and Pommie;

    I'm one the people extra sensitive to Glycerin even when it is a small component of the lotion or lube formula. The burning sensation ruins any pleasure. Some guys have also mentioned that Glycerin can cause a laxative effect, which makes sense given that they make suppositories with it.

    Our best lubes for pegging are either Vaseline coated with Walnut Oil or just silicone. Of course, you'll have to put a condom on any silicone dildo to protect it from possibly reacting with silicone lube. 

    Any other Forum members who peg care to mention what lube works best for them?

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • Hi Everyone. Sorry for my long absence - I have been distracted by a number of things.

    In my absence I have learned even more about pegging and role
    reversal...why many men shy away from pegging and why women shy away
    from pegging as well. I am working hard to deconstruct those
    misconceptions and myths and encourage more people to try pegging, to
    add it to their treasure chest of sexual choices.

    Also - started a weekly podcast. Got asked to write for Good Vibes Blog (and get paid in, wait for it....sex toys!).

    So - to answer Dave's question - my two favorite lubes are Maximus (not perfect in terms of preservatives but works for me) and Boy Butter H2O. I think Boy Butter is more natural and less likely to set off reactions. I am not a purist with lubes so I am not a good measure of the best of the best...but those are my faves.

    More info about lubes:
    http://www.metroweekly.com/domestic_partner/sex/?ak=5366

    @B_Mayfield - heard you were at CatalystCon - so would have liked to meet you! I was there all weekend and the recipient of an Aneros Evi. Experimenting with it and having a great time.

    Attended CatalystCon in Long Beach CA. Aneros was one of the sponsors and quite generous with their new toys - the "Evi" - designed for women to build Kegel muscles as well as G-spot stimulation and clitoral as well. Well designed, I must say. Feels really good inside me. (blush)

    As far as the conference, the entire weekend was a marvelous group of sex-positive people from all walks of life. In short - it rocked. I found my tribe, to be sure. I hope to present there next year. No one was talking about pegging and prostate pleasure (except for the Aneros peeps at their sponsor/vendor booth).

    Okay - new toy review. The Happy Valley Tango. My first double-ended dildo. I read that it had the best parts of all the others so I gave it a try. Touted as firmer than the Fun Factory Share but not as firm as the Feeldoe with a well-placed vibe. I ordered a WeVibe Salsa (8 settings) to replace the cheap and weak bullet vibe - which was a great idea. Used it with the Spare Parts Joque harness. I played with a partner who was content to lay there and let me peg him for a long time while I tuned into the pleasures the vibe and dildo gave me. I do not orgasm easily. I am a Hitachi Magic Wand kind of woman. And yet - the pleasure was marked and really really nice. I highly recommend the toy.

    Nice to be back. Happy Pegging, everyone!

    Ruby


  • Podcast talking about toxic sex toys...with an erotic story at the end, as a reward for listening to all the really really important toxic toy information.

    http://peggingparadise.com/blog/2012/09/podcast-14/

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Ruby - Thank you for your posts here. It's always interesting to hear what you have to say and see how enthusiastic you are about promoting the act of pegging.

    "...Got asked to write for Good Vibes Blog (and get paid in, wait for it....sex toys!)..."

    Priceless! Assuming you don't actually need the money to feed and house yourself. LOL  We'll be expecting more sex toy reviews from you in the future. Including the EVI please.

    Definitely cool to hear your take on the Happy Valley Tango. Did you get the blue or black one? And do you find the color pleasing, or not very important? I'll be curious to see if you can get to a point where you can orgasm by using the Tango. As it stands right now, do you have a preference for using the Tango over your other non-double dildos to peg?
  • Badger
    Posts: 652

    @Ruby - I noticed on Eden Fantasys that the Tango has been discontinued, but earlier posts mentioned that it would be back after some legal (paperwork) problems were corrected.

    Has it been discontinued?  It looks interesting; my wife is agast at anal stimulation, even/especially on herself.  She knows I use the Aneros for "theraputic" purposes (but I do have a slight hemorrhoid issue, and BPH), but she gets squicked out about it and doesn't really want to hear about it.  Although about 10-15 years ago, she wanted me to put my finger there, and she got off, big time.  A few days later, she wanted my dick there, but I exploded at the entrance.  The next Sunday, our newly married Pastor condemned anal sex from the pulpit, completely out of the blue.  After that, she freaks out if my finger gets anywhere near her anus, and she's cold to frigid on stimulating mine.

    A year ago, I got her the Share in black that she enjoys.  I'm not sure that she knows/wants to admit what its original use is, but she has enjoyed both ends.  It's a super turn on visually when she's holding the shaft and working it even a little.  I've used it by myself, and find it very stimulating, and gets me there like a Top-Fuel dragster - overpowering and fast.

  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Badger - So sorry to hear the negative effect religion has on your wife's view of anal play/sex. Very unfortunate. But I'm not terribly surprised. Is she just as cold discussing the topic?
  • Badger
    Posts: 652
    It varies; some days, she seems all game, and others, it's like she's in complete denial that I even own the things.  The other irony is that I attend church much more regularly than she does; she has to work on Sunday mornings, but only has to stay until her work (counting the previous days sales and putting them in the books) is done, she's done, so sometimes she gets to make it to church.  Unfortunately, our church is very small and most everyone else is either not married, or widowed, so there's no talk of sex in marriage (we're now on our 4th pastor since the aforementioned one).  Our sex time is similar:  sometimes she's really into it, and I can sneak a finger there, and other times, she completely freaks out and stops everything to give me a scolding.  And sex is only once a week now, even though the kids are all at college; her job is part-time, but she started going for a BA in Accounting degree this fall.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,604
    Thanks, Ruby, Ten, Badger and Love_is for this September sequence of posts.  Powerful !

    Four months ago I had mentally taken Pegging off the table since my wife's mindset closely resembles that of Badger's better-half.  I had stopped reading the Pegging thread and was in a near-state of denial that such a topic even existed (in spite of my recently spotting a Share in a local Adult 'novelties' shop). ;)

    Now, with an EVI on the way my hopes are once again on the rise.

    Please keep this thread up to date !!     tks again... rook


  • Thanks for coming back to this forum, Ruby.

    I appreciate your website and the positive attitude you maintain.

    Haven't tried Maximus or Boy Butter H2O yet. Will do so, ASAP.

    Glad to read you enjoyed the Happy Valley double. My wife isn't a fan of any of the 3 doubles we have (details above in this thread). Her current favorite is the Share I cut the bulb off so it's not a double anymore. When I carved it, I tried to create a clit stimulating shape. Apparently, it works pretty well. She gets a lot of mini-Os while fucking me. Unfortunately, the Share is my least favorite due to its need for tons of repeated lubing. But as long as she's happy, I'm happy. The last thing any guy who wants to be pegged needs is a double dildo that irritates his partner.

    Best Regards,

    Dave

  • Badger, the response given by Love_is is a lot more restrained than what I was going to say immediately after you posted on September 29 (directed at the pastor you mentioned).  What about the new pastor?  Does he feel the same way?  If not, ask him if he wouldn't mind publicly un-condemning the activity, or at least condemn the original condemnation.  This is information your wife needs to hear, seeing as she accepts it from that source.
  • Love_isLove_is
    Posts: 1,672
    @Badger – Not to get us too far off topic in this thread...   But the way I see it, is that as long something being done is consensual if involving more than just yourself, and does not involve stealing, lying, or harming someone, then I see no problem with doing it. In my own humble opinion, the only way you can get through these sort of things is to politely and gently talk about it in detail with your wife. Ask lot's of questions in an attempt to understand where she is coming from and also to allow her to think about her responses and own beliefs over time. I wish you much luck in finding your way through this.

    @rook – Your welcome. And I hope your new excitement and approach with your wife works out for you. Keep us updated. :)

    @ten_s_nut – Sounds like you formed your Share into something along the lines of this product:
    http://www.fuzetoys.com/dildos.html

    And perhaps the Tango might be a better candidate for your wife to enjoy using with you.

  • Badger
    Posts: 652
    @aneros44309 - Well, since we are the only married couple in the church (I told you it was a small church), it would be inappropriate to deal with such matters when there are so many who have no spouses.  Besides, he has a full-time counselling job at a recovery center, so there's very little time to minister to the members like he would like to.  But I'm slowly working at her.  It took me over 15 years to get her to go smooth, so there's hope for me yet.
  • @Love_is - I purchased mine from SheVibe and the price was great. I got the black one. I have other toys that are blue and purple and white so decided black was it this time. I preferred colored toys rather than realistic colored ones. Personal preference as I do not really get off on the idea that I actually have a cock - just that I am giving my partner so much pleasure.

    As far as which toy I prefer to use at this point, other than a for-fun trip to Portland (where I first had my opportunity to try out the Tango) I have not had nearly enough opportunities to play (that's what happens when you don't have a regular partner). And yet I can still answer your question - I would still reach for the Tango. It gave me the most pleasure of anything I have tried so far. Feels like at some point I will be orgasmic with it but even if I am not - damn, it's a good time! Important for me to couple the more powerful WeVibe Salsa bullet vibe with it.

    @Badger - had no issues purchasing it, nor did I see any discussion about legal stuff. As to your other experiences...Sad that churches feel they have to get involved in any way shape or form in what two people choose to do consensually. My opinion - in the way that rabid anti-gay people often turn out to be gay, your Pastor probably had some yearnings he was not at all comfortable with, so had to "condemn" them. Idiot.

    @Rook - I have my fingers crossed for you. Nice to have "homework" to do with the Evi.  :)

    @ten_s_nut - Dave - I recall reading your reviews and adventures with the various doubles. The Tango is touted as the best of all the good parts of the doubles. To be specific - more firm than the Share, less firm than the feeldoe, good vibe placement and clitoral ridges. Slick silicone so no lube problem. A whole lot of awesomeness. I seem to remember that the bulb end of the Share was not comfortable for your wife - The woman's end of the Tango is 1 5/8" and fairly firm (Share is 1 3/8"). I loved the fit but not every woman will.

    Finally got my email notifications in order here and corrected my gender (!). I'll be better up to date with comments now...
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Ruby;

    Sold! I just ordered the Tango. We already have the WeVibe Salsa. I'll let you know the results within a few days of the toy's arrival. With any luck, my wife will like her end of the deal better than the sawed-off Share.

    Best Regards,

    Dave

  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 818
    Hello, all.

    OK, so I got the Tango a few weeks ago and we tried it last night with the Salsa vibe inserted in the Tango. First, I heated the whole thing up under hot water. Then, my wife inserted the driver end and played with the vibe settings. She really likes the setting that cycles from low to high. 

    I rolled a condom onto the receiver end and lubed it with KY Intrigue silicone. With my wife flat on her back, I tried to ride the thing. No go. The driver end kept popping out. So much for harness-free use.

    My wife retrieved her SpareParts harness from her sex toy stash and put the Tango in it. I lubed it up some more and got on top again. This time, everything worked. Wow, what a ride. Orgasm City for both of us.

    Bottom line (pun intended, sorry): The Happy Valley Tango with WeVibe Salsa is better than Feeldoe, Share and Vixen Senior Double. Highly recommended.

    Cheers,

    Dave


  • @ten_s_nut - Wow! Your experience in this area is so valuable for the rest of us because you have actually tried all of these models, which is an expensive proposition. Personally I think the harness-free use is a pipe dream for all but a very few women. But I am so glad to hear you both enjoyed the Tango.

    And loved the pun, btw...