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A gateway technique for anal pleasure? Noobies may want to try this, experts please comment!
  • Korkelz
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    This thread is to discuss a gateway technique for experiencing anal pleasure. It is intended for those who are struggling with Aneros and may want to try something else as a supplement to their Aneros sessions.
    • It is not intended that you have a refractory period and loss of arousal. You get to experience something nice while keeping your arousal for later Aneros sessions. It seems to be a great milking technique.
    • May not be a way to actually awaken prostate.
    • You'll have to experiment to find what works for you.
    • Please always use caution when inserting anything into the anus.

    Video: Go to Xtube.com and search "No hand shooting with dildo" by thomas1fr (he has other similar videos as well)

    You'll see a dood using an anal dildo to experience what looks like a multiple ejaculatory orgasm, outputting a large quantity of cum, and if you listen to the audio you'll hear his pleasure. I believe I was able to almost perfectly reproduce the result in this video.

    Results

    • I was able to experience a multiple-ejaculatory effect as my prostate was milked by the dildo more and more, but they weren't "over the edge" orgasms.
    • The moans are natural reaction which I experienced as well. My body was responding to the dildo with strong reverse-kegels which caused me to vocalize.
    • I had to use penile stim as I drew the dildo in and out. Maybe his prostate is awakened so he doesn't need penile stim. Maybe I can use less penile stim each time to get to a point where I no longer need penile stim. Maybe then my prostate will be awakened?
    • I am an avid KSMOer, but I'm pretty sure this experience gave me some additional anal buzz afterwards. I felt pleasure around the prostate a day after.
    • Ok, slightly embarrassing, I don't actually own a dildo. I carved a cucumber and covered it with a condom. Heh...
    Technique

    I'm sure most of us has tried something like this already, it's very simple. Basically, "do yourself" with a dildo while simultaneously using some penile stim to get the pleasure going. With the dildo: go fast, go slow, vibrate your hand, whatever inspiration tells you. Your goal is to feel as much anal pleasure as possible with as little penile stim as posible. Maybe you will do intermittent penile stim and just move dildo. Maybe you will do both at all times. Don't go over the edge, just let beautiful white river flow. Only do this when you are full of cum, maybe that means only doing it every 7 days with no traditional-o in between. For me, this was actually a powerful experience. Lots of cum kept flowing and my body was reacting and moaning. Draining cum may be a way to reduce hornyness while keeping arousal intact. High arousal & Low horniness = Good for aneros, right? Lastly, if I remember correctly, I wasn't shoving the dildo onto my prostate. I think a fast in-out movement, possibly a slight angle toward the prostate, was what worked for me. The videos can give you ideas as well.

    To Aneros experts: any comments? Any precautions? Criticisms? Similar experiences?

    To noobs: I am confident that anyone can experience this, no prostate awakening required. Because... trust me, I'm not the "awakened prostate" type, haven't yet had much success with Aneros... Anyway! I Recommend using a non-pointy dildo large enough to fit snug, but allows easy sliding.
  • Korkelz
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    Oh what? Edit button disappeared? LAME! Just want to add: The moaning I experienced wasn't so much out of pleasure, but just out of an automatic reaction to how my body was tensing, doing reverse kegel and stuff. I don't want to give you the wrong idea or high expectations. I'm not experiencing some intense anal pleasure... not yet at least. I just enjoyed the experience as a whole: lots of cum, reverse kegels, body reactions, some anal-focused pleasure.
  • i agree that my having used dildo prior to discovering Aneros may have helped me in feeling sensitivity of prostate, and therefore get rewired in relatively short time compared to some other members.  Enjoyed this video, altho computer slow tonite and tool longer than 5 minutes, so fast forwarded.  Guy cud use one of those cock-like dildos with suction tube to hold it steady.  Seems to me it wud be so much better with a real cock than a dildo.  Sorry to say i haven't had that experience yet.
  • rumelrumel
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    Korkelz,

    I watched that video and was reminded of 'beckett's videos (no longer available) in the Off Topic: Male Version of Female Ejaculation (Squirting) thread.
    This fellow (thomas1fr) certainly demonstrates a copious emissive capacity which far exceeds my own capability. If you are able to duplicate his prowess then I salute you as well.

    As far as what is being demonstrated, it appears to me to be a vigorous form of prostate milking and I have tried that method on occasion. There is no doubt this is an intensely sensation provoking experience which can be quite pleasurable and orgasmic. However, having suffered a prior injury from an overly aggressive prostate massage session many years ago, I now fear further potential injury from such active thrusting. I believe there is genuine risk here if using rigid dildos as shown in the video. So given my past experience I am not in favor of, nor would I recommend, such a technique.

    Also I think the macro intensity of stimulation combined with arm motion and thinking about coordinating one's movements deflects focus away from the more subtle sensations generated by one's prostate. I do not wish to dismiss 'paulsp's belief that his prior dildo use helped him become rewired more quickly but, IMHO, this technique is not a substantial benefit to the Aneros rewiring process.
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  • Korkelz
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    • I don't have quite the amount of cum as in the video.
    • It's not meant to be directly beneficial to Aneros rewiring, just something one can try.
    • If injury is a risk, then one could avoid pushing on the prostate alltogether. It was the in/out movement of a smooth object that really did the milking. Pushing on the prostate may not be desired and I don't remember having to directly push on the prostate at all.

    This technique is no different than the many people who use anal dildos which are sold in all sex stores. While caution should be exercised, Rumel, I'm disappointed that you are so disapproving of this discussion. Your reasons for dismissing this hold a lot of assumptions.

    But you are the expert here, so I won't argue any further than I already have. I was hoping someone else could try this and confirm my results, oh well.
  • I miss cumming like that.  Never had that much volume, but used to "shoot" like that.  Aging takes the fun out of most things...
  • Korkelz
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    This should have been in the first post:

    • I did not "shoot" fluid like in the video, I think in the video he might be manually pumping his kegel muscles to create that effect, I could be wrong, but just forgot to add this to the original post: you probably won't "squirt" like in a normal ejaculation, more likely to spill/flow out. But, feel free to add kegel squeezes if you want to recreate the effect.

    Just wanted to clarify.

    CoasterRider, what are you referring to when you say "takes the fun out of most things..."?
  • It was mostly a joke, but things are less intense and vigorous as I age.  YMMV.

  • Korkelz
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    Really? I would hope that as you age, those things are replaced with other attributes such as floating bliss and calm seas, intense in a matured way.
  • rumelrumel
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    Korkelz,

    In your initiating post you asked for "...comments? Any precautions? Criticisms? Similar experiences?" and now you're disappointed when I responded honestly ! Roll Eyes I'm sorry you're disappointed but to be clear here I am NOT disapproving of this discussion. My primary concern is the safety aspect of ANY anal insertions and the potential for injury such insertions carry with them. Hard, rigid, anally inserted objects simply carry a much greater risk for accidental damage than similarly shaped soft bodied dildos. This is not an assumption it is a fact.

    As I noted in my post above - "There is no doubt this is an intensely sensation provoking experience which can be quite pleasurable and orgasmic." It is because of that very intensity of stimulation of the anal sphincters that I have my second concern with regards to Aneros training/learning using even flexible dildos. IMHO, this contributes little to getting the user to tune into the initial subtle sensations generated by prostate stimulation. While we can't know to what extent the gentleman in the video was employing internal muscular contractions, it is pretty obvious the focus of attention and effort was on stimulation of the anus and not on the prostate, testicles, penis or other erotic hot spots.

    Now with all that said, outside of Aneros applicability and safety concerns, such anal techniques along with pegging and anal intercourse are all viable paths to sensual pleasures that I would not want to dissuade you or others from enjoying.
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  • Korkelz
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    Hey Rumel, allow me to be disappointed even though I wanted your "parental guidance" on this topic. With all due respect, my disappointment doesn't change the fact that I hear you loud and clear and I hold your wisdom above my own opinions. I also took the time to find a good read anal sex safety: 
    http://www.advicenators.com/qview.php?q=560244 (scroll to the last post by Peeps)

    But, Rumel, I hope we can continue to discuss this in a positive light. I respectfully want to challenge the commonly held notion that intense stimulation of sphincter one day impedes one's ability to tune into initial subtle sensations another day. Since I'm not an Aneros elite, I'm not an authority on what "subtle prostate sensation" refers to, but for a while now (though only when I'm highly aroused and keep up my KSMO sessions), lightly caressing my sphincter has lead to all kinds anal of sensations such as auto-contractions, prostate-area pleasure, P-waves, and sphincter-based pleasure.

    Using the technique described above, for the moment, I feel that my "back door" has been further sensitized by the experience. I even felt subtle pleasure afterwards doing light anal contractions.

    I hope you don't see this as an argument, but simply an alternate experience which lead to an alternative opinion.
  • Korkelz
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    But, I understand, since I don't use the Aneros currently, my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. :-?
  • rumelrumel
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    Korkelz,

    Sure we can continue to discuss these topics. I am just offering up my OPINIONS, every member here has an equal opportunity to state their opinions as well. If you find a particular technique helpful and wish to share that with the rest of us, I think that's great. Smiley I don't think we're having an argument so much as differing perceptions of our learning processes, like the old saying goes ...


    "Different strokes for different folks"
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  • Another old saying recommends disagreeing without being disagreeable.  Like religious doctrine, for instance, technique advocates can be rigid about only one method being valid, while sometimes experimenting with modifications can be valid and sometimes improve the effect.  Another saying is that not every change is an improvement, but there is no improvement without change.  For instance, I have found a variation of the deer exercise, moving the circular motion slowly up to the breast bone and down again  both clock and counter wise has added to the pleasurable experience for me.  I read about doing that in some thread on this site.  That may be like the difference between apples and oranges or something compared to this discussion topic, but all analogies tend to limp.  My point is that there are often more than one way to do something, as I have learned in life, but of course my way is still the best way!  

    As for aging and loss of sex drive, etc. ED is not only always an aging problem, in my case caused by circulation loss due to 49 years of Diabetes, but I am having probably more sexual pleasure now with Aneros and Mangina than I did previously, partly due, too, perhaps to my minimal life experience of sexuality due to being somewhat celibate, if the definition of that is not married or in a completely sexual relationship. 
  • I wasn't talking about a loss of sex drive,  just a lessening of the ejaculation intensity, or shooting force, I guess. Though that can be from diet and other health issues too, not just aging.  
  • Thank u for that clarification, CoasterRider.  I don't find much lessening of sex drive since i have discoveded aneros and Mangina.  i seem more or less (mostly more LOL) horny 24/7, especially if i don't have a wet super-O.  i luv edging.  As for ejaculation intensity and shooting force, i have never experienced before the intensity of orgasm from jacking off as i do with aneros in.  That probably includes shooting force, although i don't eject the amount of cum that i did when i was younger, and therefore probably it doesn't shoot as far, but it sure feels good and better than ever before i discovered aneros.  

    When i first started aneros i cud almost not end a session (and it did end it) without penile rubbing and ejaculation.  I seldom do it anymore.  Maybe if the juice has built up for a couple weeks and the urge is really strong.  I think the body absorbs lots of it and it doesn't necessarily simply build up.  It seems to have becum less of an urge since i have been practicing Mangina, altho if the turtle sticks his head out and is really slippery from a lot of precum i often feel like jacking off, but usually don't.  i like to let the cum build up to have more intensity when i do masturbate.  Temporary abstinence seems to be a good aphrodisiac.
  • rumelrumel
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    Korkelz,


    In going back and re-reading some of the older threads on this Forum, I came across a thread by member 'ash' concerning his apparent loss of PC muscle tone due to his anal play prior to any Aneros usage. While he didn't specifically mention dildo use, it is possible such play was a factor in this condition.

    In any event, the subsequent discussion between 'BF Mayfield' and 'ash' about using more subtle techniques of contractions and breathing ultimately lead to 'ash's Super-O awakening. I very much encourage you to read that thread titled A Question: PC Strength, it may provide a bit of insight and inspiration to you.
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  • Korkelz
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    Rumel, thanks for that!

    Question: What is "Practicing Mangina" exactly?
  • Korkelz
    If you do a seach on mangina in the search box at the top of this page you will find much about it.  I find it a little difficult to explain, but it is very well explained in some of those threads.  I can say it is inverting the flaccid penis, but you might not understand what that means.  There are pictures of it you will find there, too.  I will do a search and see if i can find some helpful ones.
    Paul
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,257
    Korkelz,

    'artform' brought the term "mangina" to the Forum in his personal blog (hopefully to be restored soon by Aneros Support), you can see 'artform's video demonstration here and some additional video links in the thread Artform vid3: Mangina Orgasms (rough cut).

    Simply put a "mangina" is the condition when your penis is mostly turned inside out with all of the penis pushed back inside your body cavity creating a faux vagina like situation. "Practicing Mangina" refers to using your fingers to stimulate the remaining exposed penile flesh much as you would stimulate the labia and vagina of a woman.
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  • Korkelz
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    Hmm, just read through the hole thread. Next I need to watch the videos and learn more. Well, this technique could put mine to shame... I hope that I find it to be a technique that does not require "awakening".

    Now... if there is a concern with muscle tone I should at least try my technique with an aneros-"widthed" dildo before I leave this thread to the abyss. Not sure the next time I'll be able to try it... (still don't own a proper dildo!). Until then... I'm out! unless this thread receives responses needing further follow up.
  • Korkelz
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    Ok... I'm going to post on the mangina thread.