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Super O contradictions
  • jja
    Posts: 49

    Hey there. Not trying to start a forum fight or anything but I am kind of confused.  I have read stuff on this board, and on other aneros review boards...

     

    I have read that a super O is like "A really intense orgasm, but no ejaculation", AND "It's incredible and nothing like a normal orgasm".  I know everyone is different but i'm really confused.  The reason why it bothers me is because I think the best thing to help move things along is to know what signs to look for in my search for the dry o's super o's ect...  So please if you have really had them, explain.  If you have never had them, please leave the comments to someone who has.  Thanks.

  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    jja said:

    ...I think the best thing to help move things along is to know what signs to look for in my search for the dry o's super o's ect...

    In response I would have to answer Yes and NO.

    There may be a number of contradictions/paradoxes when it comes to the Art of Aneros use. This is not a science with proven steps for achieving success. What you are expressing is a form of 'mind noise' and 'expectations' both items on my list of Obstacles to Progress.

    Yes, there is often much commonality in Aneros users experiences and in the WIKI there is a list of 'Milestones' ('...signs to look for...'), but it is important to note that not all users will experience the items noted therein. This does not mean you are incapable of experiencing a Super-O if you don't hit these milestones. So the answer is also NO, if you get hung up looking for a particular set of signs then it is NOT a help to move things along. You are more likely to have success and pleasure from just experimenting with the various techniques discussed within this Forum without having any expectations of what to look for or feel.

    In the thread "Non-Ejaculatory response vs. Super-O" 'B Mayfield' wrote :

    "For whatever it's worth, I am the person who established the use of the term Super O or Super Orgasm here in the forum. Over the years, I've seen several users refer to different experiences using this term. For a long time now I've strived to avoid making comments that could disturb the flow of any users journey, preferring to try to gently steer people when necessary. Rather than telling somebody that they have the concept all wrong, I've tried to introduce alternative ideas. In retrospect, perhaps the confusion over this needed more of a definitive correction.

    In any event, the Super Orgasm (Super O) was name that I gave for an orgasm that stepped out of my normal frame of reference. The Super O is a non ejaculatory orgasm that may involve the entire lower abdominal and pelvic regions and may even extend more globally, into a whole body experience. Since this is a non ejaculatory event, there is no resolution phase the part of the male sexual response that begins the refractory period...our time-out during which arousal is not possible. What this means is that multiple orgasms are possible since one never falls from a certain level of arousal (effectively staying in the plateau phase between orgasms). The duration of the Super O may be several seconds to minutes longer than a traditional orgasm (particularly when multiples are involved).

    Know this though,...Super O's come in all shapes and sizes. Some are small, some are large, some are single, some are multiple, some are centered in one area while others are in another. Some are particularly intense, while others are more subdued. Generally the experience is one of a surging pleasure wave that leaves one in a blissful yet energized state ...look Ma' no refractory period !

    The existence of a tickling sensation in the penis, perineum, anus and prostate simulataneously has been reported on many occasions as well.

    There may be outward physical signs of the event such as engorgment of the penis, producing a very stiff erection, and swelling of the glans or head of the penis. Often this swelling may cause the glans to change hue and take on a shiny appearance with the corona becoming larger and more red in color. There may be anal contractions accompanying the orgasm as well. Such contractions may be internal or external. There may be emissions (a flow or oozing) of "precum" (Cowper's fluid) before, during and after such an event too.

    That said, individuals may exhibit only some or perhaps none of these signs

    Yes, it can be confusing from a practical standpoint trying to get a handle on what the Super O is by establishing what it looks like. As I've stated in the past, I believe that the phenomena has its roots in the female sexual response. And as with the female experience, in many cases we are left to accept anecdotal reports as evidence of its (the Super O's) existence. (So it turns out that women aren't the only ones who can fake an orgasm!) But that's just the way that it is. I'm certain that the phenomenon could be scientifically documented with any number of tests; EKG, blood pressure, skin conductivity, etc., but to my knowledge this remains to be done. It is for this reason that I've been somewhat dubious of the videos that have circulated. Not that I'm suggesting that anyone has faked anything here, I accept that everyone is of good intentions, it's just that there seems to be a level of uncertainty as to what's going on. There is so much that depends on the actual sensations that one is experiencing that can't be revealed in this way.

    My opinion is that YOU WILL NEVER DISCOVER THE TECHNIQUES OF ACCESSING THE SUPER O FROM WATCHING A VIDEO. The reason, as I've described previously, is that there is a great deal that is going on internally that defies scrutiny. So while such videos may be titilating, they will have a difficult time being enlightening. (It's like someone giving you a video that shows an individual meditating and expecting you to learn how to meditate from it.) What I'm trying to express here is that even if one sees an individual who outwardly displays physical signs of this type orgasm (and remember that many don't), it does nothing to illuminate the path for getting there! Such videos may be interesting to watch, but they won't get you where you want to go.

    As I've described before, the path to the Super O is a personal process. For some it occurs quite quickly, for others it evolves over time.

    So how does one know the difference between the Super O and a more traditional experience? Interestingly enough many people who have experienced it, know it right away, because (as occured with me) it is something that is outside of their frame of reference. It is, in many ways, a redefining experience. Others (particularly those who start with the more subdued experience) take more time to come to terms with what it's all about.

    One last thing, it may be helpful for some of you to understand what a SUPER O IS NOT. The only thing that one can say with absolute certainty is that a Super O is not an ejaculatory orgasm! Occasionally, I've seen posts that lament the fact that there was no ejaculation and therefore no Super O?!! Clearly they're misunderstanding what it's about. In other posts I've read about hands-off ejaculation (sounds so tremendous... I wish I could do it myself) but this is not the Super O either. Ejaculation no matter how intense signifies a traditional orgasm and once this occurs a refractory period is inevitable. Refractory period = NO SUPER O
    I hope this clears things up for you!"


    For a further discussion on what are noteworthy aspects of the Super-O please read  'Buster's thread "What exactly is a Super-O?"
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  • Blows my mind all the intellectual musings about aneros experience.  Guess that is the nature of the male.  i have a strong anima side.  I have paid almost no attention to terminology, and can't believe that i am not experiencing super Os galore in every session.  What ever called, i just enjoy immensely what i experience.
  • Linum
    Posts: 186

    jja - I'd listen to Rumel.  I haven't had a super-O, but I do know that trying to place yourself on a scale of significant events does not help.  The trouble is that we are an animal species that likes to classify things, and yet discussions in this forum have convinced me that there is a continuum of development (at least for my progress so far) and so whilst the classifications are convenient and tempting to use, they don't actually exist as single entities.  For this reason, I have found that it is not easy to say when you have had a mini-O and dry O etc, and often it is only when we have passed the onset of those events by some way that we can see them in perspective with all that has gone before, and will be able to say that "roughly about then" was when I began to have mini-Os for example.


    To be honest, I have developed the feeling that not knowing where you are on the scale, is more enjoyable, than trying to compare yourself to the progress of others.  We are all on approximately the same journey, but the route we take to get there will be significantly different in detail.  "It is all part of life's rich tapestry" they say, and that variation should be celebrated, even though it may be inconvenient at times.


    Good luck on your Journy jja

  • Linghaman
    Posts: 231

    jja:


    While all of us can advise it is ultimately a personal journey.  My advice would be relax and enjoy the ride and experiment... we all experience super o a little differently.  Once you get there you will know it.  The joy of this all for me has been the experiementation and the discovery process.  I never got fixated on super o; once I found it, it was a fqantastic - mind blowing arrival.


    That being said however .... here are some addresses for some entries in my blog that describe my experience and what I feel in super o.  Although it describes my experience yours may be different.  Starting this thread was a good idea as you will get a variety of responses.  Read them and use them as guidance only.


    Here are my blog entries:


    http://linghamanslog.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/quiet-morning-hard-orgasm/


    http://linghamanslog.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/orgasmic-breathing/


    http://linghamanslog.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/prostate-anal-orgasm-in-men-and-me/


    http://linghamanslog.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/chakras-meridians-and-prostate-orgasms/


     


    Bigguy