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On the verge of discovering abundant pre-cum for all?
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Dovne and I have recently made a few posts to http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/off-topic-male-version-female-ejaculation-squirting-13579/index3.html#post96035

    This squirting technique we are describing there involves pushing out (reverse kegel). Seems to be easier when aroused. I'm pretty sure it also requires relaxing the anal muscles (that means, be careful not to create a mess...) I've been practicing reverse kegel to produce urine or pre-cum or [what I believe to be] squirting fluid and have become accustomed to the feelings associated with this.

    Today my wife was stimulating me (penis) this morning while I knew I had to urinate. However, after some stimulation, I felt a moment where I could push something out, so I did. A drop of pre-cum plus a drop of urine(?) came out. A little more stimulation after that and I started to feel another moment, like my body telling me this is the right moment to push... the need to urinate was still there, but I felt as if there was a switch from urine to sexual fluids. I pushed at the right moment and out came, you guessed it, many drops of pre-cum; that's a lot for me. After intercourse (no ejaculation) I produced a few more drops, possibly because I'm learning to produce it more (?).

    Side note: I've recently been reading people describing ejaculating only clear fluid... possibly lots of pre-cum. Interesitng. One time I involuntarily ejaculated a stream of pre-cum.

    Lastly, I want to note that I've had involuntary reverse kegels in the past. Recently, I've been having involuntary and semi-involuntary reverse kegels when stimulating nipples after having practiced "pushing out" technique. When it is semi-involuntary, I search for that feeling in my body and support the need to do a reverse kegel. This results in (what I believe to be) squirting fluid, usually slippery and milky. Lastly-lastly, in the past I've felt a strong "need to pee" with nipple stimulation alone, but back then I didn't know what to do with it. Now I know I could have pushed out.

    All this may also be a clue to how a woman can learn to squirt. My wife was describing similar feelings as she noticed when it might have been possible to "push-out" at the right moment to release fluid. I'll continue to look into this.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Based on this morning's experience:
    This has happened a few more times now: Being very aroused, stimulating nipples, feeling a little "need to pee" tingle (this is the sign it's time to push), pushing out, and producing a good amount of pre-cum. Also, I seem to be more prone to involuntarily pushing. If nothing is being produced, use voluntarily pushing. I've also tried rhythmic pushing as a way to avoid bowel movement which seemed to work and be less strenuous. But, keep in mind when aroused and using stimulation, this really isn't strenuous at all, and becomes part of the pleasure.




    A few points to ponder:
    -At one point I pulled back the foreskin and a good amount of pre-cum flowed out. Are some of us not naturally (as in, with no technique) producing pre-cum because of foreskin or other penile restriction? Is it possible that some of us produce lots of pre-cum and don't know it because our body isn't naturally bringing it to the surface?

    -The counter the above point, I was also able to witness a drop of pre-cum being produced all on its own without pushing it. This is a rarity for me! is it possible that a technique like this encourages pre-cum? I probably need a few more weeks of being highly aroused to know the answer to this.





    Unrelated, but very pleasurable note: Lubricating the penis head with Avon's Skin So Soft (long-lasting oil) seems to increase pleasure of foreskin movement. This seems to make getting an erection pleasurable as the quickly-expanding head forces foreskin to move, which creates a feedback of erection to pleasure. What I should do is confirm whether it's the actual product or the simple fact the head is well lubricated... but, I've always felt skin-so-soft was special for this reason.
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  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    [QUOTE=Korkelz;96297]Based on this morning's experience:

    Unrelated, but very pleasurable note: Lubricating the penis head with Avon's Skin So Soft (long-lasting oil) seems to increase pleasure of foreskin movement. This seems to make getting an erection pleasurable as the quickly-expanding head forces foreskin to move, which creates a feedback of erection to pleasure. What I should do is confirm whether it's the actual product or the simple fact the head is well lubricated... but, I've always felt skin-so-soft was special for this reason.


    Great for those outdoors sessions.....it also keeps the skeeters away !image


    BF Mayfield
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    [QUOTE=Korkelz;96297]Based on this morning's experience:
    This has happened a few more times now: Being very aroused, stimulating nipples, feeling a little "need to pee" tingle (this is the sign it's time to push), pushing out, and producing a good amount of pre-cum. Also, I seem to be more prone to involuntarily pushing. If nothing is being produced, use voluntarily pushing. I've also tried rhythmic pushing as a way to avoid bowel movement which seemed to work and be less strenuous. But, keep in mind when aroused and using stimulation, this really isn't strenuous at all, and becomes part of the pleasure.




    A few points to ponder:
    -At one point I pulled back the foreskin and a good amount of pre-cum flowed out. Are some of us not naturally (as in, with no technique) producing pre-cum because of foreskin or other penile restriction? Is it possible that some of us produce lots of pre-cum and don't know it because our body isn't naturally bringing it to the surface?

    -The counter the above point, I was also able to witness a drop of pre-cum being produced all on its own without pushing it. This is a rarity for me! is it possible that a technique like this encourages pre-cum? I probably need a few more weeks of being highly aroused to know the answer to this.





    Unrelated, but very pleasurable note: Lubricating the penis head with Avon's Skin So Soft (long-lasting oil) seems to increase pleasure of foreskin movement. This seems to make getting an erection pleasurable as the quickly-expanding head forces foreskin to move, which creates a feedback of erection to pleasure. What I should do is confirm whether it's the actual product or the simple fact the head is well lubricated... but, I've always felt skin-so-soft was special for this reason.

    korkelz -

    Have never used Skin So Soft as a sexual lubricant ...

    but expect it should also keep the mosquitos from biting yer hood

    ... might work for crabs as well?

    - rip
    :D

    p.s. might want to start a little blod => "tips for yer tip"
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    ...another one of my old threads resurrected, Rip?.. well, I've not come any closer to discovering why some people produce lots of pre-cum and others don't. I wish I knew, but no idea. There must be a technique...
  • legace
    Posts: 128
    why would you want lots of precum anyways? I have the problem and its really annoying, without even touching myself i will create lots of precum. I have to constantly wipe it off my stomach .
  • geneva54
    Posts: 5
    Precum is great for jacking off if you are using your hand and some spit.

    Very nice sensation.
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    [QUOTE=geneva54;99278]Precum is great for jacking off if you are using your hand and some spit.

    Very nice sensation.

    precum RULES the fuckin' world ...

    ask yer wife or gf (or yer favorite cocksucker)

    ... it's like honey to the tongue

    - rip
    :D
  • utubeplayutubeplay
    Posts: 38
    I AGREE RiP!! I wish I produced MUCH MORE than I do!!

    [QUOTE=RipTheJacker;99287]precum RULES the fuckin' world ...

    ask yer wife or gf (or yer favorite cocksucker)

    ... it's like honey to the tongue

    - rip :D
  • priapusonepriapusone
    Posts: 257
    Yes, precum is a fun thing to enjoy--agree utube! More Precum!
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    [QUOTE=utubeplay;99288]I AGREE RiP!! I wish I produced MUCH MORE than I do!!

    dude -

    i'll pray that the cowpers glands of utubeplay all kick into overdrive every time he thinks a sexy thought, touches his genitalia, or cums in contact with an attractive potential partner in crime

    ... leak for us bro!

    - rip
    :D
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    I'd rather use pre-cum than a personal lubricant for sex any day... but sadly I have not the ability. Blessed are those who are cursed with the leaky penis.
  • Turnrow
    Posts: 123
    Pre-cum is the elixer of manhood.

    It is a signal of arousal and arousal as men is what we are all about. We are addicted to sexual arousal.
  • priapusonepriapusone
    Posts: 257
    elixer is a nice word too, to describe it!
  • RipTheJacker
    Posts: 240
    [QUOTE=Korkelz;99322]I'd rather use pre-cum than a personal lubricant for sex any day... but sadly I have not the ability. Blessed are those who are cursed with the leaky penis.

    korkelz -

    my personal and medical experience - as well as the many comments of guys on these forums ...

    convince me there is a vibrant market for professional anogenital manipulation

    ... to waken and maximize output of horny adult male cowpers glands

    i'd hafta have strict hygienic requirements ...

    and try to conceal my identity

    ... or it might destroy my reputation at sunday school - and in radical right fundamentalist religious circles LOL

    - rip
    :D

    p.s. i DO wish you luck in yer endeavors ... and hope ya don't give up in yer "pre quest"
  • priapusonepriapusone
    Posts: 257
    Agree with this....it's a quest!
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Priapusone, for me, it is a side-quest since my focus is on Super-O, and for good reason. I've read a handful of accounts here on the forum of people who experience faucet-dripping pre-cum at some point during their journey to Super-O, and it will come as a surprise. While the journey won't gaurantee abundant pre-cum, it will give clues and at least possibly allow you to experience it once or twice. Being super-aroused and having super-o can only help our endeavor.
  • priapusonepriapusone
    Posts: 257
    Yes, super o's do help with this side!
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT! Seriously! I'm not yet at the point where I could make a vid of drooling pre-cum, so let this message be a little update and to let you know I'm still working on this. This message might help some of you, but ultimately I need a lot more time (a year or more?) before I can flesh out and explain a solid technique.

    I've watched many electrostim videos which would cause my heart to pump out of my chest as a cock drools in a torturous prison of pleasure. I am powerfully affected by such beauty.

    Recently I picked up my Aneros Progasm again, but this time I am combining it with penile stim and manual contractions. Over a few days I noticed whenever I would experience intense pleasure (by combining penile, aneros, and nipple stim) that's when I would immediately get a pre-cum response.

    • Clue #1: Anal stim or perinium pressure (is known for abundant pre-cum)
    • Clue #2: intense pleasure (* * * * *)
    • Clue #3: Electro stim (* * * * *)
    • Clue #4: prolonged pleasure (* * * * *)
    • Clue #5: rhythmic stimulation (* * * * *)
    • Our goal is to combine ALL of these

    Possible reasons that would hinder producing pre-cum:
    • #1. Low arousal due to not abstaining long enough from penile orgasm.
    • #2: Inability to maintain prolonged or intense (or both) pleasure because of penile orgasm or difficulty of carrying out that stimulation.
    • #3. Inability to experience intense pleasure due to not knowing what feels good.
    • #4. Prolonged stimulation in the wrong way (in a way that does not encourage pre-cum.) such as just using one form a stimulation at a time.
    • #5. Stimulation that produces pre-cum but simultaneously blocks its flow (such as when using high pressure on perineum to cause intense penile sensitivity  which closes the urethra)

    I am going to build an electrostim device (a powerfu one, like $140 of DIY) and create trodes to help carry out the needed stimulation. My vision is to use aneros while having eletrodes to stimulate the pelvic floor muscles so that it automatically contracts (or possibly an anal trode/dildo). This and a frenulum trode. This won't be difficult to build. After that, all I'd have to do is use my hands to maintain nipple stim. 

    Now, an experienced "drooler" may only need an Aneros or basic electrostim. For me, Aneros or basic electrostim has not produced much effect on its own.

    Sooo... I know what works for me (although I can't yet maintain prolonged stim for the drooling effect), you may want to try the aneros + manual contraction, penile, and nipple stim. Electrostim will give me more clues once I have it built. Depending on how well the electrostim setup works, I may recommend it, and ultimately I could help you build a unit yourself (or just build it for you). I understand the risks of electricity and I wouldn't do this lightheartedly. Also, it's possible that this goal of trying to produce pre-cum would help lead to dry orgasms, who knows! :)