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MGX or SGX?
  • Hello Tout le Monde,

    I'm fairly new to anal/prostatic stimulation, beginning my experience in December of last year with this: Rocks-Off | Naughty-Boy . I've had some very pleasurable experiences, but notice with a deeper penetration comes a sharp pain that radiates to my lower abdomen. I am shorter than average, at around 165cm, or 5'6"; as an avid cyclist, I only ride small- and extra small-sized bikes.

    The Aneros stimulators seem quite highly acclaimed and recommended; I'm looking into adding an Aneros G-spot stimulator too my... um... secret drawer! I've inferred that my 'Naughty Boy' is causing discomfort at deeper penetrations due to its size in relation to my anatomy. So, I am wondering, and asking: would the SGX perhaps be more appropriately sized for my prostatic stimulation than the MGX?

    Thank you in Advance!

    M
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Easy to answer since there's a money-back guarantee on either the MGX or SGX if ordered online from Aneros.com. Order one and should that not satisfy, precisely follow the instructions in the Aneros store site, get a refund and switch to the other.

    My own SGX experience (6ft x 180lb but with some prostate enlargement) is that while its initial contact is on the lower lobes of the prostate, during an involuntary clench it does draw in to provide intense contact .

    I have no experience with the toy you have but adequate prep and/or lube is usually at the root of pain. Listen to your body and when it 'crys' with pain, it's time to "back out."

    hth rook
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Aneros user....

    As you are aware by now the "Naughty Boy" was based on the Rude Boy and is similarly configured. Both devices extend beyond the prostate. The discomfort you were feeling was most likely rectal in origin. There are areas in the rectum that are receptive to sensation and those that are not. I suspect that you happened upon the latter. The SGX and MGX are both designed to engage the prostate and you won't go much farther than that even with the strongest contraction. The SGX was originally designed for men who are of shorter stature 5' 6" or under. The MGX was intended for everyone else.

    BF Mayfield
  • TeeJayTeeJay
    Posts: 53
    Mr. Mayfield is correct. The products sold by that company (Rude-boy, Naughty boy etc...) cannot produce the effect that is discussed in this forum. Products like that and others are based upon stimulation. The Aneros is based upon arousal. It's a hard concept to appreciate but once you realize it you are free. Arousal is everything in the Aneros world; stimulation means next to nothing. When you are very aroused, you can orgasm with very little stimulation. The Aneros is not a stimulator but a bio-feedback device which only works when one releases their normal reticence toward keeping excretory functions in-line. If you know that your bladder and bowels are clear, you can "Let go" and allow the Aneros to fatigue the excretory muscles into an involuntary loop that has as a by-product, the slight rubbing of the prostate which produces more arousal which produces more .... ect... ect... If I was asked to give one word of advice to new users it would be: Try to shit-n-piss while thinking about something that gets you real hot.
  • Thank you so much, everyone! I'm not an Aneros user yet, though; my email address had been used prior to me getting onto this site, and was registered with this user name. You can call me 'M'. I just geekily measured myself against the wall, and have found I'm actually shrinking! Now I'm about 5'4"! This is scary during your mid-twenties. I hope it can be attributed to a dehydration or the like.

    Thanks again - your advice provided good insight, and now I think I'll go ahead with the SGX model.

    So Grateful!

    M
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    M,

    You can formally change your username to "M" if you so desire (so long as it is not already taken) by contacting support here .

    I strongly urge you to consider this, it will be difficult for you to develop an identity here otherwise because all of the numbered usernames appear the same.

    All the best,


    BF Mayfield
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Some how your response made me think you might be of some help to me using my Aneros.

    Last month's medical exam showed I had an enlarged prostate, which concerns me.

    I bought 2 about 2 years ago, could not get them to work, threw them out and bought a Helix. After several uses with absolutely no results of any kind, have once again stopped using.

    I bought the insertable lub tubes, seems like a good idea, lub the device, insert and to the best of my knowledge follow the instructions on the website.

    I have noticed from the first trial, instructions are different.

    To the best of my knowledge, I have followed suggestions, but instincts tell me I am missing something, and NO IDEA WHAT IT IS.

    Have not asked aneros for advice as experience has shown limited help and response.

    Could you or somebody help me get the product to work please.

    Teabags

    [QUOTE=rook;96055]Easy to answer since there's a money-back guarantee on either the MGX or SGX if ordered online from Aneros.com. Order one and should that not satisfy, precisely follow the instructions in the Aneros store site, get a refund and switch to the other.

    My own SGX experience (6ft x 180lb but with some prostate enlargement) is that while its initial contact is on the lower lobes of the prostate, during an involuntary clench it does draw in to provide intense contact .

    I have no experience with the toy you have but adequate prep and/or lube is usually at the root of pain. Listen to your body and when it 'crys' with pain, it's time to "back out."

    hth rook
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Hello, teabags.

    Glad to hear you want to continue despite lack of results to date. I hope you've read the Wiki. It has a ton of useful suggestions, tips and tricks. There's no way to say what will work for you as each of us have a different response.

    One thing I'd like to emphasize that the Wiki does not hammer in is, daily practice is really important, even if it's only for 30 minutes. Or, if you can handle it, sleep with it nightly, after making sure you're using a lube system that will endure. The point of all the practice and hours with the Helix is to teach your mind/body what the thing is and how it can interact with your system. Hopefully, you'll start to feel things happening. From there, the process can accelerate quite rapidly. I know, getting to that first step can feel tedious.

    Hang in there.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    [QUOTE=teabags;96170] .... snip...

    Last month's medical exam showed I had an enlarged prostate, which concerns me. ....
    Teabags

    My own experience says, 'not to worry.' But talk to your doctor.

    Each year I ask my Uro for an estimate of my prostate volume and for any prostate, anal or rectal conditions that might contra-indicate using an Aneros tool for massage. My prostate is about "45 to 50 grams and supple." It's growing at about 2 or 3 grams per year.

    I'm not alone with this as we have several other gents in this forum with similar prostates. My own doctor has given me a GTG for the last three visits.

    I'm at ease with any Aneros toy from SGX through Maximus and Vice. Progasm is a bit of a snug fit and a bit time-consuming for me to really relax with. I aggressively massage for therapy about three times a month.

    It took me a good six months to get open with my Urologist about Aneros use. If you feel that way, familiarize yourself with the bph benefits of prostate massage. Many of the pleasure tools we talk about here are also marketed for therapy at:

    -- Prostate Massage Prostate Massager Prostatitis BPH Treatment Prostate Massage --

    That site also has instructions for therapeutic massage.

    hth rook
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Dave:

    Thank you for the note.

    I did order the cd, and have listened to it once falling asleep. Nothing really happened, but believe I was simply more comfortable. I think that is probably more important than anything else from what I have been reading here.

    Mike
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Mike;

    You're welcome, anytime.

    Getting comfortable and truly relaxed are important. One other very important first step is, make sure you know what sustained prostate contact feels like. Then, when you use the Helix, remember that sensation. The rest will follow, eventually.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Dave:

    I know you said something important, "Then, when you use the Helix, remember that sensation", but honestly I have no idea what you mean or to look for.

    Would you care to explain?

    Thanks again.

    Mike
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Mike;

    Reading this Forum for the past 5 months, I realized that many guys who are new to anal play have no idea what direct pressure on their prostate feels like. Without that reference, how would anyone know what to "look" for? Sure, almost every guy over 40 has had a digital rectal exam by a doctor, and most of those guys simply blocked the memory as embarrassing and unpleasant. So, what to do?

    Experiment. The Web references suggest using your own finger to press on the prostate as if you were gently rubbing your eyeball. If only it were as easy to reach your prostate as your eyeball. Some men, like me, have prostates that are too difficult to reach or they simply can't contort themselves enough to get up there. Another method is to use a small, curved Zucchini Squash in a condom. Or, visit a Certified Massage Therapist for a 30-minute session. That worked for me, though it was kind of pricey: $100. However you do it, remember the unique feeling. Aneros will build on that.

    Best Regards,

    Dave

    PS.

    So, what does prostate contact pressure feel like? I'm sure it varies among men, but for me it feels like a hot spot; almost burning, and at other times like a low-level electric "buzzing."

    D.
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Dave:

    You raise what seems to me a key point. I am not sure I am succeeding in obtaining contact.

    I have a stiff back, so your suggestion is not something I could do.

    I recently had a prostate exam, and I could not feel were it is he was touching. It is enlarged.

    MASSAGE THERAPIST, I have actually tried to find one that I felt comfortable with. I live basically in Plano/Dallas, Texas. Any idea who to call or how to find one? It is not easy to find somebody I trust. What are good search words?

    I have contacted one guy, never went as I was somehow uncomfortable.

    Advice would be appreciated.

    Mike
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    My experience with DRE's at the Urologist: most have been so aggressive in palpating the prostate that it's all pressure and stretching of the canal... no good feelings in any way.

    Sympathize with the difficulty in reaching it yourself. I'd need another elbow joint to get the correct angle.

    To persue Dave's thought.... How about using a small well lubed probe or soft dildo that you can maneuver, explore and apply gentle yet constant pressure along your anterior wall. It might take a couple of tries on separate occasions but you'll eventually 'run into' a spot that has a very unique sensation. My own experience was that the early contacts weren't at all pleasurable. It seemed to set off something that was a combination of mild nausea and a sort of 'gag reflex' in my abdomen (if that makes sense.)
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 817
    Mike;

    Around here, Northern California/Bay Area, CMTs and PMTs who offer prostate massage are common. The best ones have their own websites. Prostate massage is usually listed in the very fine print under types of technique. Then, there are the specialist masseurs who offer "Tantric" massage. On Craigslist, the key words in the massage ads are "sensual," "release of tension" and words along those lines. The word "prostate" is banned within service ads on Craigslist, so it is sometimes typed out as "p r o s t a t e." The spaces get it by the filter.

    Best Regards,

    Dave
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Thank you for the thought.

    I have a bad back so it would be difficult to do what you suggest, however it is worth considering and I will see what I can figure out to do.

    Mike
  • teabags
    Posts: 9
    Dave:

    Thank you, I will use your comments to look here, have done it in the past without success, but I also did not know some of the things you pointed out. My biggest concern was more of security.

    Appreciate the ideas, will check out and advise results if any.

    Mike
  • oh, so does this means before we get the larger one such as Progasm, it would be better to practice using the MGX for 30 minutes daily ?