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shaking distraction
  • grayfox
    Posts: 81
    hey,

    it seems like the aneros doesn't induce much full body stuff for me but I will randomly have sessions where I'll start to shake pretty heavily. It reminds me of some of the videos where people are in the middle of a super-O but I'm not for sure. That said, it seems like I'm working towards the right direction but it feels really distracting and I'm trying to keep it at a low level as good as I can (of course not by trying to force it but by trying to relax more and let go once another spasm starts. Holding my breath also helps but it seems like every time I exhale I'm lifting off.
    This pattern will reocur for 30-45 minutes, it doesn't feel bad, I'm definitely enjoying it but it won't build further. Then suddenly everything will die and I usually decide to quit my session at this point.
    What's happening to me? Did you experience sth similar on your journey? Is it a good/bad sign? Why does is occur so randomly (probably once every two months) and doesn't seem to be reproducable?
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,602
    I think the brain, when pleasured but without a well learned -'next step', probably does some random action as an exploratory experience.

    It may be like training a young puppy. Reward the actions you prefer with a pleasure treat (aka dog biscuit) -- perhaps a small nipple flick, a scrotum nudge or a simple contraction. (Just walking away can be interpreted as a form of punishment.)

    Just some random thoughts from a mildly demented mind. Yeah, I get those random twitches and buzzes most times when I'm trying something new.
  • grayfox
    Posts: 81
    Interesting idea but tbh I'm not really sure if I prefer those shakes or not. They don't provide me stronger P-waves than my quiet sessions but it's definitely interesting to experience what this tiny device can do. I think the main distraction comes from me not knowing how to handle it. Should I just lean back and let it happen or am I leaking energy and should concentrate on guiding it to the right places? It feels a little crampy at times whereas the do-nothing approach seems to be working in the opposite direction...
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 816
    Hello, grayfox.

    I know what you mean about the shaking. I call them muscle spasms or just spazzing out; not pleasant. Apparently, many guys find them an integral part of Aneros Land and learn to enjoy the shakes. Not me. I find them distracting.

    I've developed a number of strategies for heading them off and/or stopping them once they get going. Without writing a dissertation here, the most effective things to do are, first, change position, and then immediately engage in controlled breathing. Those get me over the hump and back into P-waves. From there to dry-Os is a short journey.

    That said, a full-body clench/spasm always occurs for me during a super-O. At that point I have no control and don't care. The important thing is to keep breathing through it so I can get to the next O.

    Best of luck to you making further progress.

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    [QUOTE=grayfox;96160]This pattern will reocur for 30-45 minutes, it doesn't feel bad, I'm definitely enjoying it but it won't build further. Then suddenly everything will die and I usually decide to quit my session at this point. Being able to use the word "enjoy" with your session is a blessing. But, you go on to use the word "die." When pleasure leaves you, it is important to take a deep breath when this happens and breathe out gratefulness.

    Try this: Just feel a sense of complete satisfaction, where you don't have the feeling of wanting more, but you want to relax in the bliss you just experienced. You can even pretend that the pleasure is leaving you as a result of an orgasm / release. When I do this, pleasure seems to come right back, almost as if pleasure has its own consciousness and it wants to grab on to you when you appreciate it like this.

    Am I making any sense? It's difficult to put this stuff in words. Pleasure goes high and low, and when it's low, it's a chance for you to take a short break, practice feeling satisfied.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    grayfox,

    I have never experienced the vigorous full body shaking/quaking described by some members as a result of Aneros use. However, in my early stages of learning I would occasionally experience muscle spasms (mini-O's) in different parts of my body at different times during Aneros use. These spasms were not inherently pleasurable in and of themselves (nor were they unpleasant either) but more curious side effects. I don't really have any explanation for this phenomena other than to say these occurrences have gradually faded and seldom occur any longer. On rare occasions, I will experience a very short (1-2 second), full body clench/paralysis during a session. I wouldn't worry about these random events and I don't think they signal anything good or bad, they are just manifestations of your unique Aneros journey. I would recommend you just let them happen as they may, not trying to encourage them or trying to halt them.

    I can concur with your observation regarding the cyclic nature of pleasurable sensations during an Anerosession. There is definitely an overall rise and fall of pleasure intensities, waves within waves. We get to surf the little waves while waiting for the next 'set' of big waves to come in and then ride those waves as thunderous rushes of pleasure.

    'Korkelz' made an astute observation about your choice of words and attitude in the selected quote. You may wish to re-frame your statement to avoid use of the word "die". This may sound like a trivial point but it could actually make a big difference on a subconscious level, you may be unnecessarily terminating a session that is really only in the bottom of the cyclic wave trough when a new huge 'set' of waves is about to surge through. Even if the waves don't subsequently develop, you can opt to leave your orgasmic ocean knowing you may return to the living swells of pleasure at a future time, nothing has died, it just has become becalmed.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    [QUOTE=rumel;96166]'Korkelz' made an astute observation

    Hey rumel, I've been learning from the best. ;)

    Being able to invite pleasure instead of chasing after it is a beautiful thing. It feels like I'm being loved by a supernatural force.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 816
    Korkelz;

    Invite pleasure? Yes.

    Another thing: you can tell yourself to ignore pleasure, And guess what? It will kick down the door and get you.

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    ten_s_nut,

    You have been fortunate to have early success with your massagers and having a supportive partner has provided a strong encouraging psychological environment to accelerate your learning, many members do not have such a positive environment in which to practice. Aneros use is as much a mental practice as it is a physical practice. I hope we encourage success for our fellow members through acknowledging the pleasures instead of attempting to ignore them.

    When you "tell yourself" anything you bring conscious focus to it and plant the idea in your sub-conscious as well. So 'telling' yourself to "ignore pleasure" is akin to telling yourself to "ignore the 800 lb. gorilla" in the room with you. The problem with that tactic, if practiced repeatedly, is that it actually works and you will eventually "ignore pleasure". Certainly you can tell yourself to ignore pleasure, but why would you want to do that? Why would you recommend such a tactic to some men who are struggling to detect any pleasure at all to begin with? I don't understand that. I don't believe that is the outcome most men are looking for with Aneros use.
  • ten_s_nutten_s_nut
    Posts: 816
    rumel,

    You're right. Point well taken. Many people need all the positive energy they can bring to the process.

    And yes, I'm lucky my wife is with me all the way. (I feel I deserve that. My first two wives were duds.)

    Cheers,

    Dave
  • grayfox
    Posts: 81
    Yeah, usually I don't instantly quit, the first time one of the stronger waves is over. Instead I will try to give myself another 30 minutes or so and see if they come back, but sometimes they just won't, everything will be quiet, so I usually decide to quit because if I wait too long, I will start trying to make things happen.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Hey grayfox I know my advice may not coincide with your journey, but let me try saying this one more time in a different way and then I'll shut up about it! disclaimer: I've not yet reached the dry-o stage of my journey.

    I think waiting for pleasure is similar to chasing after it. When you get the that point of no more pleasure, end your session with gratitude or relax and reminisce about the great plasure you just experienced and be extremely grateful and be excited for the next session. Try to feel loved by this pleasure.

    For me, I do feel like pleasure hugs me when I practice this positive mental feedback. I practice this throughout the day and get P-waves, which sometimes results in hard erections if pleasure squeezes me for too long! (sometimes this happens even in public... :eek::o). This kind of pleasure is unlimited, I never have to worry about enjoying it too much or risk a dreaded refractory period. This is one of my main sources of feeling gratitude. I am in love with this type of pleasure, it's so liberating to not have to rely on the penis as a sole source of limited pleasure.