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A place to discuss achieving Super-O with couples sex?
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    [QUOTE=Pan;94231]Oh and Korkelz, I can understand your hesitation, $75 is a lot to ask. But in my opinion, the value comes from having access to a live teacher with well over a decade of experience in helping men "get it" quickly and easily via live chats.Can Jack help women to use his technique as well?
  • cyrezcyrez
    Posts: 109
    Yes, his technique works very well for women aswell. If you browse around on their site you'll find some statements from a girl talking about it. And some says that it gets a lot easier with KSMO if you're already rewired the aneros way, or partially.
  • ForUs said

    Helixer, I don't see why 'super-o' can't be a part of a couple's sex life. Just because it is a couple doesn't mean it has to be defined exclusively by penile stimulation to traditional orgasm. *wink* Some of our most intimate times involve supporting him (directly or indirectly) in achieving new heights, with or without gratification myself. Hubby and I are starting the journey of expanding how we define sex. It's a slow journey for us, but I am very interested in other couple's experiences.





    My wife often brings me to a Super O without penetration of any kind, either way. By that I mean I do not penetrate her and nor does she penetrate me, with anything what so ever. I started using the Aneros about 3 years ago and she has been bringing me to super o for the past 18 months, although we never use the Aneros during our sexual encounters (every Friday night). My wife has watched me (in all meanings of the word) on my journey and listened intently to all I have to tell her about my experiences. BTW, this would never have happened without the Aneros and all the information so generously posted to this forum. We are close to 60 and married for almost 40 years but very seldom talked about sex. That was until the Aneros came into our lives and opened up a complete new world of commutation. I am at a loss to explain why but it has.

    She has only ever inserted the Aneros for me on the last two occasions, although she knew I wanted her to she couldn’t bring herself to insert it (she is not into anal play), she has otherwise been very supportive of my Aneros use.

    We lay naked together for quite a while kissing and cuddling (after all these years I still get an erection the minute she starts kissing me even though I have a problem with ED. Once the kissing stops the erection vanishes) after which time she is able to bring me to Super O by massaging my prostate from the outside just above the base of the penis or gently massaging my balls and perineum or very seductively kissing my breasts and nipples. She never touches my breasts until I am about to go from orgasm to supero and then she wraps her hot little mouth around my nipples and I just explode into the most wonderful super O I could ever hope for, as good as when using the Aneros.

    Sometimes I think my wife gets almost as much pleasure seeing me squirm around the bed and scream out in erotic arousal as I do (if that were possible). I say that because she never wants to stop and sometimes it gets so intense that I have to beg her to stop: I thinks she really likes it when that happens.

    So I believe you can have a Super o without the Aneros, however the bond built up between us over a long period of time may well have something to do with it?
  • ForUs
    Posts: 15
    Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, Aneros downunder! Your description of how you and your wife have integrated this into your life together is exactly what I have been imagining and hoping for. We don't have quite as many miles on our road (ages 39/47, married 20yrs) but ED has started to pay a role for us already. The picture you paint of how your wife loves you beautiful. I can only hope that my hubby follows through with rewiring once we are able to get a unit. It's encouraging beyond words to hear that your wife has been involved from the beginning of your journey- not only because HELLO I don't wanna miss that! but also because he has always been very firm on wanting to keep all aspects of his sexuality between us, to the point that he doesn't use any porn and has refrained from maturbating alone for the most part. Knowing him, he may struggle with what he may see as a lack of connection. Your model is something I'll share with him and keep in mind going forward.

    (And funny you should mention the inequality with rimming- for us it is the opposite! I'm not comfortable receiving it yet, but the first time I tried it on him was the first time he had a dry O. We had no idea yet what we had found, but I was hooked!)
  • Thankyou ForUs for your kind words and I ‘m glad you found something useful from my post. The most difficult part of my journey has been to get my wife to insert the aneros. She is an ex nurse from the old days when hygiene was paramount in hospitals (it’s a lot more relaxed today) and she sees anything to do with touching the anus as not very hygienic, at least that is my read on it.

    I have tried for a long time to think of a way to slowly bring her around and did so by getting her to shave my perineum on the pretext the hairs pull when using the Aneros. Then one night I prepared the Aneros and myself in advance. When she was finished shaving I suggested that while she was at it she may as well insert the aneros. Much to my surprise she agreed and again on the next occasion. Next I’m going to ask her to push some of the thick lube in to me with her finger (gloves perhaps?).

    So I might be slowly breaking down the barrier though I know she will never rim me (your husband is a very lucky man, you can tell him from me) I’m just hoping that one day she will give me a prostate massage.

    I also masturbate with her knowledge in fact after we go to bed I might masturbate while my wife reads a book. It’s such a turn on knowing that some times she is actually watching me. I don’t use a fist; I use fingertips, both hands for up to 2 hours. She has learnt so much about what I like from watching me pleasure myself. Before the aneros usage broke down the barrier I always masturbated in private without her knowledge.

    Now if I could just get her to masturbate in front of me: what a turn on.

    You mentioned your husband had a dry O when you were rimming him. Well I believe my wife had one when I was rimming her, most likely an anal orgasm. Anyway she wouldn’t admit it but I’m absolutely sure she did. I had her really turned on from a lot of earlier foreplay when I started rimming. She will usually only allow so much before she directs me on to other places. However, this night she allowed me to rim her for about 20/30 minutes at least and she just exploded. Not sure why she wouldn’t admit it, something to do with her hang-ups. After all she did board in a convent as a child.
  • ForUs
    Posts: 15
    Aneros downunder, I know from my years working as a midwifery assistant that I am much less squeamish in general if I'm wearing gloves. It might really help her get past any mental blocks she may have if she uses them for any digital contact (keeping in mind that she may choose to forego them later). Make sure they are thin and fit her well, though. Baggy vinyl or thick nitrile gloves would most likely be frustrating for her- it's tough enough figuring out what is where in there as it is!
  • CA25CA25
    Posts: 46
    Although my girlfriend and I are just starting to use the Aneros (so no Super-Os yet...) we have tried other related types of external pressure and massage techniques that I have shared with others here. I do agree that The Multi-Orgasmic Man book is a good source for techniques and information for enhancing couples sex. I read it a few years ago and have had some pretty good results both doing solo and when with my girlfriend. The muscle control learning outlined in the book is good for learning control, but I also find it can be a hit or miss and distracting since you are also typically trying to concentrate very hard while contracting to avoid ejaculation. This is more of a challenge when you are trying to keep pace satisfying your partner at the same time.

    While squeezing I will also manually put very firm pressure on that soft deep spot of my perineum. Doing both seems to works more often for me; although it is not a "hands off" technique so often brought up as important in the book and elsewhere. My girlfriend now knows where the spot is. If we get to a point where I just have to orgasm and she is not ready or wanting to come yet, we will move to a position where she has easy access to my spot (like in a reverse cowgirl position) and I will follow through and take my orgasm while she pushes very hard and deep with two fingers on that spot while I squeeze. I can also reach around and apply the pressure myself when we do it doggie style, and have also tried it during oral sex. By doing this, she gets to feel my orgasms (thrusting, increased hardness and head growth, and pulsations), but I don't ejaculate; increasing my semen retention and keeping the sexual energy and desire at a very high level.

    Often there will be a short refraction period and some slight softening of my erection, but that typically quickly recovers because we are still engaged in having sexplay and the desire and energy has not been satiated. I have done this twice in a row before finally letting go and ejaculating on the third orgasm. We have both noticed a substantial increase in my ejaculate amount, and in the number of pulsations and length of my final orgasm when it does finally happen.

    There are many other techniques in that book (for breathing, etc...) that are very interesting and helpful.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Hey, just posted this in my blog, wanted to share my experience with you guys.

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    Here's a quick tip. Have some good sex, do not ejaculate, then wait 5 - 20 minutes and insert the aneros. It also helps if you've not ejaculated for a while and thus giving you a high sex drive/arousal. Insert the aneros and manually apply pressure with the aneros to your prostate to get that "need to pee" sensation. You should have some cum drip or even spill out. This should take 10 - 60 seconds. Don't keep pushing it if nothing seems to want to come out.

    If stuff does drip out, good! It means there's a good chance you'll have some kind of success with this aneros session.

    BUILDING AROUSAL
    I build my arousal with nipple stimulation, sex and intimacy with my wife, and some aneros use. Also I've been trying something new, taking a shower before bed and sleeping naked; being free and fresh seems to encourage more erections... also allows chances of erogenous zones to be stimulated by mistake... by the wife or the bed sheets, heheh!

    For me, I only experience pleasure during an aneros session if I'm highly aroused and I can only be highly aroused when I avoid ejaculation for as long as possible. I've gotten pretty good at resisting the urge to pour over into the refractory period. Now I have a new problem, learning to cope with constant pleasure.

    One reason I like to be highly aroused is so that my wife can make me hard and throbbing at the push of a button. It gives me the desired effect of feeling like my body is my wife's play thing. One time I was aroused in a way which caused me to have the most deepest desire of love and attraction toward her I ever felt; I wanted to cling to her at every moment (which I did during a movie that day). I'd like to experience that again. This requires Super Arousal and lenghtly intimate sex without ejaculating.

    I have a theory that it's possible for couples to feel that sparkly magic that we feel the first time we hold hands or first kiss, etc.

    EXPERIENCING SUPER A
    Last night, all it took was a few light touches of a nipple. At the push of a button, my wife turned me on. I don't think I got any sleep that night. Night very slowly became early morning... only when I was totally relaxed and wasn't thinking about anything sexual did I feel I might be able to fall asleep. These moments didn't last longer than 15 seconds... as soon as a stray thought went to my penis, I was reminded of the constant pleasure I was feeling from the tip, shaft, perinium, all the way back to the anus. This would cause an intense throbbing erection that would last minutes at a time. The simple feeling of blood engorging my shaft was enough to make me moan. I went from hard to soft and back over and over in the course of many hours, letting out a quiet moan each time (didn't want to wake the wife). At one point even my heart became a source of sexual stimulation; I could feel its pulses stimulating the frenulum.

    During this I would sometimes stimulate my nipples causing my penis to go from erect to fully inflated. This caused my heart to beat wildly... At one point I felt like I was getting exhausted; my body was so sensitive that I no longer had a desire to touch my erogenous zones and instead just wanted to caress my skin; relax in pleasure. Also, any slight brush against my nipples sent GRABBING pleasure to my entire shaft and prostate; difficult to avoid.

    Eventually I had to use the bathroom... turned out to be very difficult. The constant pleasure wouldn't quit long enough for my body to release urine. Instead, I went back and forth from dripping pre-cum to dripping urine a few times; decided to give up on that. The sight of my glans penis (the head) being fully inflated, red and shiny, like it was about to burst didn't help either! (It's the look of when you hold a strong contraction while fully erect)

    I could feel my prostate begging to be stimulated (a first for me); inserting the aneros immediately caused a few drips of cum, a very good sign. Of course the aneros only did what it was made to do, exaggerate everything that I was already feeling.

    FINAL COMMENTS
    All this lasted until it was time to get out of bed... I was desparate for morning to come! Supressing involuntary vocalizations was becoming too much. Many times I felt at the edge of a hands-free ejaculatory orgasm... Sometimes it feels like I'm battling my body; Body doesn't want to me to experience the pleasure of a dry o, so it does its best to torture me with unrelenting pleasure that leads nowhere as a way to tempt me to end it a wet o. Hopefully I'll transition to dry o soon. What a night... and I'm still feeling a light sense of that pleasure now.

    I experienced many delicious emotions as well. I felt like I was one with my body, comparable to being in a dream-like state, totally free to experience unlimited pleasure (more like unrelenting pleasure *evil laugh* ), because every part of my body was more sensitive than I've ever experienced, akin to the dream world. Also, I exercised after the shower, pumped my muscles and felt manly/sexy... my chest, abs, and arms are starting to show these days as well. :) It's important to for me like what I see in the mirror, it adds another dimension to sexual satisfaction.

    That's another good tip, feel sexy.
  • [QUOTE=Aneros downunder;94286]ForUs said





    My wife often brings me to a Super O without penetration of any kind, either way. By that I mean I do not penetrate her and nor does she penetrate me, with anything what so ever. I started using the Aneros about 3 years ago and she has been bringing me to super o for the past 18 months, although we never use the Aneros during our sexual encounters (every Friday night). My wife has watched me (in all meanings of the word) on my journey and listened intently to all I have to tell her about my experiences. BTW, this would never have happened without the Aneros and all the information so generously posted to this forum. We are close to 60 and married for almost 40 years but very seldom talked about sex. That was until the Aneros came into our lives and opened up a complete new world of commutation. I am at a loss to explain why but it has.

    She has only ever inserted the Aneros for me on the last two occasions, although she knew I wanted her to she couldn’t bring herself to insert it (she is not into anal play), she has otherwise been very supportive of my Aneros use.

    We lay naked together for quite a while kissing and cuddling (after all these years I still get an erection the minute she starts kissing me even though I have a problem with ED. Once the kissing stops the erection vanishes) after which time she is able to bring me to Super O by massaging my prostate from the outside just above the base of the penis or gently massaging my balls and perineum or very seductively kissing my breasts and nipples. She never touches my breasts until I am about to go from orgasm to supero and then she wraps her hot little mouth around my nipples and I just explode into the most wonderful super O I could ever hope for, as good as when using the Aneros.

    Sometimes I think my wife gets almost as much pleasure seeing me squirm around the bed and scream out in erotic arousal as I do (if that were possible). I say that because she never wants to stop and sometimes it gets so intense that I have to beg her to stop: I thinks she really likes it when that happens.

    So I believe you can have a Super o without the Aneros, however the bond built up between us over a long period of time may well have something to do with it?

    Can you explain how? Also does she cater to you as much as you cater to her?
  • CA25CA25
    Posts: 46
    I finally made love with my girlfriend while having the Helix inside of me (check my posts history for older details.) Once again after insertion and an initial loss of my erection, once she started stripping for me and playing with me the erection made a quick return. Again it was much more stiff than a typical erection; a bit larger and longer due to that. She was totally turned-on and gave me some oral work, and was totally into the stiffness and size increase. So then I wanted to let it settle in for a while and I played with her and got her close to orgasm a few times. And after about 30 minutes or so of foreplay we eventually decided to try intercourse.

    I will preface by saying we had not had sex for a week, and I was pretty excited and totally busting to release that night - almost to a "blue balls" state. When I entered her she was like another person. She just rolled her head and eyes back, with a kind of silent gasp of an open mouth. A lot of "Oh my god's.." and such. She was REALLY into it as I slowly thrust into her. The size difference was all she could talk about and I really had never seen her react quite like that - she has always liked when I wear a cock ring and get bigger, and larger-sized vibrators, but this even was different. It was a great show to watch.

    But when I started to really pick up the pace I felt the onrush of a quick orgasm, so I had to slow down. BUT during maybe the first three or four thrusts when I was going for it, while pushing inside her and having the Helix push further inside of me, during those thrusts I could kind of feel the Helix pushing against me inside and it felt like it was almost blocking the ejaculation from happening. It was a great feeling while it lasted, but the urge to come overtook that after 3 or 4 thrusts.

    I guess if I can learn more butt-clenching exercises and have the Helix tight against my prostate I might experience a dry O by blocking the ejaculation from happening. Is this how it is done? Is this how you get a dry O?

    So I think I kind of felt that great rush just before an ejaculation starts, but the Helix was preventing it from physically happening, which was really a cool experience and feeling. I probably have to try this without being so horny too... and practice with her more. Does any of this make sense? Do you think I am on the right path here?

    Thanks for any insight here.
  • [QUOTE=ForUs;94287]Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, Aneros downunder! Your description of how you and your wife have integrated this into your life together is exactly what I have been imagining and hoping for. We don't have quite as many miles on our road (ages 39/47, married 20yrs) but ED has started to pay a role for us already. The picture you paint of how your wife loves you beautiful. I can only hope that my hubby follows through with rewiring once we are able to get a unit. It's encouraging beyond words to hear that your wife has been involved from the beginning of your journey- not only because HELLO I don't wanna miss that! but also because he has always been very firm on wanting to keep all aspects of his sexuality between us, to the point that he doesn't use any porn and has refrained from maturbating alone for the most part. Knowing him, he may struggle with what he may see as a lack of connection. Your model is something I'll share with him and keep in mind going forward.

    (And funny you should mention the inequality with rimming- for us it is the opposite! I'm not comfortable receiving it yet, but the first time I tried it on him was the first time he had a dry O. We had no idea yet what we had found, but I was hooked!)

    wow you truly are an open and caring women, im still early on in my sexual exploration only being 22 but I understand the deep meaning behind sexual play and im working towards building myself up towards meeting a women to pass and share my experiences with this gives me hope. I have told a few close lady mates which im very lucky to have in my life and It should help me to bring up my own exploration to a future worthy lady. I currently also do a bit of solo practice of tantra to which im also very lucky to get into at this early age. All the best and feel free to read my blogs and all the best on your husbands journey.