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  • I had a nice session last night and all was seemed normal until the end. I started with my helix and worked it for about an hour, this time I kept a small contraction going pretty regular. I then switched to the progasm and kept the same contraction going and had some interesting feelings. the concern was when I called it quits and went to remove the progasm, it nearly just fell out. my ass had either gotten so tired it couldnt hold any more or I dont know what.

    I seem to be back to normal since I didnt have any bad situations today. Is this occurance something that is common? I was a little freaked out last night.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Having just finished some serious anal stretching exercise, I'd say that your 'looseness' isn't anything permanent.

    Occasionally my Progasm would seemingly 'sneak' out from full insertion by a 1/2" or so. Then when would fall out if I stood or opted for a Super-T.

    I've pretty well nailed the issue to poor lube in the upper part of the canal. Now using over 50% more pre-lube. Also do two insertions of Progasm --put it in, do a couple of contractions to distribute lube, take it out and insert it again. Seems to stay put now.

    hth ....
  • hulahula
    Posts: 212
    experienced the same situation just yesterday. Happened while I was standing. Yet in the doggie position, The progasm seemed to stay in just fine.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    I suspect it isn't looseness so much as muscle tone/fit. When I first started out with the Helix, if I tried to make love to my wife, it would pop out. It no longer does. But the Progasm, it's either sucked in so deep that the abutment ball is jamming the perineum really hard, or the whole thing is popping out. I have to be very cognizant of how it's positioned, or it pops out. I can't trust it when having sex with my wife, because it will: A) pop out during thrusting or orgasm; B) inhibit my erection; or C) stifle the flow that I have a retrograde ejaculation, because the tip is jammed in so far that it's blocking off the flow.
  • pnomanpnoman
    Posts: 145
    ]forgeman-

    I have a similar issue. My sessions are typically 2 hours +, 2 to 3 times a week for almost 2 years now. (Still no Super-O) What I find is that after the first hour things start to get feeling really good, like I'm on the verge of something amazing. Then my Helix will just pop out. (The Helix is my current favorite model.) I try to reinsert it, but it only stays in for a little while before popping out again. That's pretty much when I end my sessions. I normally transition from a Helix to the MGX or Maximus during the course of one session, but not matter what model I use I get the same ejection. The only model that doesn't pop out is the Progasm, which is my LEAST favorite model. The Progasm will just sit there or move out halfway when I've reached this stage.

    I have been concerned about anal stretching and more importantly the possibility of fecal incontinence when I get older. The pleasure's great even without the Super-O, but if I'm gonna need a diaper in 10 or 20 years, I'll pass. I wonder if anyone else here has ejection issues?
  • RogerT
    Posts: 79
    [QUOTE=rook;93190]Having just finished some serious anal stretching exercise, I'd say that your 'looseness' isn't anything permanent.

    Occasionally my Progasm would seemingly 'sneak' out from full insertion by a 1/2" or so. Then when would fall out if I stood or opted for a Super-T.

    I've pretty well nailed the issue to poor lube in the upper part of the canal. Now using over 50% more pre-lube. Also do two insertions of Progasm --put it in, do a couple of contractions to distribute lube, take it out and insert it again. Seems to stay put now.

    hth ....

    Rook - How much lube do you use exactly with the Progasm? Just curious, thanks. :-)
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    [QUOTE=RogerT;93247]Rook - How much lube do you use exactly with the Progasm? Just curious, thanks. :-)

    5.15673317ml {;-) of melted shea+coconut injected about 3 inches up the canal. Another 1ml smeared on the surface -- all told, about twice what I'd use for Helix,

    couldn't resist the decimal point jazz. My home-brew injectors have one mark at two and another at 5. I fill it to 5 plus a bit more -- less than six ml. though. There's no nozzle tip on it so I don't leave any in the injector.

    hth .... rook
  • MyTurn
    Posts: 447
    Just to let you guys know - for comparison or peace of mind or whatever - that I don't have an issue with looseness during a session. I have never even begun to expel the Helix or MGX.

    I do have an issue if I put "a good amount" of lube in. After the session, I have to take it easy with the, ahem, passing of wind, coz twice, I've farted out shitty lube. Not cool. So the first 5 hours or so after a session are kinda scarey. I'm wondering how gaped I am after a session.

    But as for during, I am ok, so far. Less than 5ml of KY gel inserted.

    So, I don't think it is universal to have your Aneros popping out! Either it is something you are doing (lubewise, pre-stretching?, prelubing?) or something in your biology (weak muscles, muscle fatigue)??

    I dunno if this helps???
  • I should have written that when this happened I put a finger up my anus to see what was happening and usually after a session it is still a tight fit, but this time my finger didnt touch the sides of my canal.
  • RogerT
    Posts: 79
    [QUOTE=rook;93254]5.15673317ml {;-) of melted shea+coconut injected about 3 inches up the canal. Another 1ml smeared on the surface -- all told, about twice what I'd use for Helix,

    couldn't resist the decimal point jazz. My home-brew injectors have one mark at two and another at 5. I fill it to 5 plus a bit more -- less than six ml. though. There's no nozzle tip on it so I don't leave any in the injector.

    hth .... rook

    Rook - Thanks so much. I was thinking 5ml was about right.
  • RogerT
    Posts: 79
    [QUOTE=MyTurn;93257]Just to let you guys know - for comparison or peace of mind or whatever - that I don't have an issue with looseness during a session. I have never even begun to expel the Helix or MGX.

    I do have an issue if I put "a good amount" of lube in. After the session, I have to take it easy with the, ahem, passing of wind, coz twice, I've farted out shitty lube. Not cool. So the first 5 hours or so after a session are kinda scarey. I'm wondering how gaped I am after a session.

    But as for during, I am ok, so far. Less than 5ml of KY gel inserted.

    So, I don't think it is universal to have your Aneros popping out! Either it is something you are doing (lubewise, pre-stretching?, prelubing?) or something in your biology (weak muscles, muscle fatigue)??

    I dunno if this helps???

    MyTurn - Do you perform a rectal cleanse first. I always do and after using the Aneros of all the gel comes right out as I take my Aneros out. So far no wet gas passing here. :-)
  • pnomanpnoman
    Posts: 145
    I had a session last night where my Helix began to pop out early on. I used 5ml of lube this time, (2ml more than normal) I thought that maybe it was being over-lubed, and that was causing the ejection. I kept re-inserting it and finally it stayed. I think that my ejection is caused by my anal cavity contracting and squeezing it out. So I tried to NOT let my anus do anything. I only concentrated on relaxation- and this seemed to work for a while. There were several instances when the device began to rhythmically go in and out on its own. I think that i may have been focusing too much on contractions instead of simply letting everything take care of itself...
  • [QUOTE=MyTurn;93257]Just to let you guys know - for comparison or peace of mind or whatever - that I don't have an issue with looseness during a session. I have never even begun to expel the Helix or MGX.

    I do have an issue if I put "a good amount" of lube in. After the session, I have to take it easy with the, ahem, passing of wind, coz twice, I've farted out shitty lube. Not cool. So the first 5 hours or so after a session are kinda scarey. I'm wondering how gaped I am after a session.

    But as for during, I am ok, so far. Less than 5ml of KY gel inserted.

    So, I don't think it is universal to have your Aneros popping out! Either it is something you are doing (lubewise, pre-stretching?, prelubing?) or something in your biology (weak muscles, muscle fatigue)??

    I dunno if this helps???

    5 ml is more than a teaspoonful - a LOT of lube! ...

    being new to everything anal i recommend if you take your time and achieve high levels of arousal before letting aneros have its way with your ass you (a) need lube but (b) youl don't need much

    male precum fluid is the best lube if you're blessed to have a good supply as it is a pure body fluid that will be reabsorbed by your rectal mucosa ...

    and grease your violator all over with a thin coat of a good viscous lube like "albolene"

    ... then after your session clean your ass good first with tp and then with a moist babywipe finishing up with a 1 cm probe of your hole - if you were empty andclean when you started your session it shouldn't be shitty

    - rip

    p.s. i'm by no means an aneros expert butt i've recently developed an intimate relationship with my anus and its sphincter
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    I have had the incident of my progasm coming out when I am having intercourse. It also will work it's way out sometimes when I am on my back. This doesn't seem to happen with the helix.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    5 ml is 1.0144 teaspoons, hardly a lot of lube; most experts recommend anywhere from 4 ml to 12 ml, whatever it takes to get the Aneros to move freely in your rectum.

    To prevent farting out stained lube after a session, strain to clear out anything left in your urethra and bowels. Wipe thoroughly.

    rickg, I have the same problem with my Progasm; they just won't stay in for me. I have much better luck with the Peridise and Helix staying in when having sex, but the Helix stifles my ability to have an erection.