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I never get pre cum
  • I've seen a few videos online where a lot of pre cum seems to be coming out when people stimulate or milk their prostate. I have never had pre cum during prostate stimulation, does this mean I am doing it wrong ? Is pre-cum a must for correct prostate stimulation ? I've only ever noticed a slight precum a few times in my lifetime during masturbation and it was only a slight appearance not even 1/5 th of a drop. Do some men just not get precum ? I really want it because it seems like it would add to the experience and it seems pretty hot and fun.
  • rickg
    Posts: 94
    I posted about this a couple of weeks ago. I don't get precum either but I keep sensing that something is happening with my penis. I just think all of us are different and some have it easily and others don't. :-)
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    I believe getting pre-cum is like anything, some people are lucky and get lots of it right away, others can LEARN. I'd say don't give up, but I also don't know how one might learn to get more pre-cum. Keep trying and searching for answers I'd say.
  • I've had several super-o's of varying intensity, no pre-cum ever produced.
    That is until the other morning. It justed started pouring out. It was totally unexpected and kind of weird.
    I would not get hung up on it. You can get to the super-o without it happening.
  • Twinkle, I shared your concern as I am like you, very little precum while using my aneros. That was until this past week. I had a session where the precum flowed like a fountain - totally shocking me. I didn't do anything different. I believe each session has different reactions, sensations, and energies. So my advice is to enjoy each session for the uniqueness.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    As a couple of others have posted, it really doesn't make much difference for purposes of a dry-O, super-O. it might save a bit of money for lube if you use a j-o sleeve.

    I have no clue how the pre-cum discussion/concern got started in this forum butt it was going strong when I first started lurking in early 2009.

    Pre-ejaculate is produced by the two Cowpers glands which are downstream from the prostate and empty into the urethra via a common duct. It's wedged in between the rectum, the prostate and the crus (portion of the penis cavernosa that's behind the pubic bone.) They don't have much to do with prostate stim or dry-Os. Everyone's mileage is different on this but it would make sense that guys who carry a heavier erection during anal play would leak more precum. Mine goes like this:

    1. Mental -- anticipation of sexual action makes me drool precum. Vary rarely, porn will trigger some. This is probably due to arterial flow into the cavernosa & crus -- while most guys would erect from that flow, I don't throw more than a minor chubby due to venous leakage.
    2. Viagra (but not Levitra) will trigger a small amount of pre-cum about 10 minutes after I swallow it. This makes little sense to me since I'm slower than the average bear in responding to any of the oral E.D. meds.
    3. Aneros tools that have a "heavy hand" on the lower anal canal always produce more precum. In decreasing order of amount produced: Maximus, MGX, 22mm Perdise and Progasm as a poor fourth. Any precum I produce using Helix, Eupho, SGX or the smaller Peridise is probably from erectile flow or mental action.
  • slimjm
    Posts: 497
    I produce little to none (with the Aneros or warming up for sex with my wife for that matter) and some of my most intense super-O's have been accompanied by absolutely none of it. When I've produced some, there was no added sensation to what was going on, if that's of any encouragement to those of you wondering if it enhances the experience. My sessions are relatively short and I don't look at porn or arouse myself sexually before or as a part of them but rather devote the time to relaxing and enjoying the sensations.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    I haven't done enough testing of this, but maybe the best way to produce pre-cum is by manual prostate-milking of some form (use of hand or handheld toy). I got one good drop of it the second time my wife and I tried. The manual massage doesn't feel good right now, but maybe in the future as we explore this more, we will get better at making it flow out and it may feel good then. There's a video on X-tube that convinced me of this, a how-to on prostate milking: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=86az5_S325_

    There are a lot of videos showing a use of toy and causing cum and other stuff to flow out. I don't think these videos are helpful. It doesn't seem like much pre-cum is coming out.. oh but then I just found a video where clearly cum and pre-cum were flowing: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=KH7DM_C722_

    and maybe this website will help: http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/prostate-milking.html

    I had a little bit of success with pre-cum yesterday. Try this: Get highly aroused by lots of stimulation without ejaculation. Now while erect, massage a specific part of the base of your penis, where the scrotum is and a little bit above and/or below. When you push into these spots with your finger and move upward across them, the head of your penis should expand. Take pressure off and it will deflate. Right now, it's difficult for me to feel anything good in these spots, but today I am highly aroused and massaging them creates a subtle sexual stimulation if I'm focused on feeling it. Maybe in time it will feel better. Anyway, this area seems to have been causing pre-cum to leak out at least a tiny bit. This idea is also based on an xtube video I saw at one point.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Pre-cum doesn't come from the Prostate.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Yes, you already said that. But that doesn't change the fact that people (not me, however) are getting results from stimulating the prostate. So please let us know if there's a better way to do it! I would certainly like to know. Is the Cowper Gland accessible like the prostate is? Can it be manually stimulated?
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Sure. To avoid "saying it again" plse re-check post five in this thread, para #3. Since this is a very small contact area, individual variations come into play. So, you gotta pick your own tool. The gland isn't obvious during a DRE. Note too that siince it's close to the crus, degree of erection will be a major factor (Dame Nature planned it that way.)

    Anatomical Pictorial: -- Bulbourethral gland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --
  • calmercalmer
    Posts: 75
    I produce lots of pre cum when using my Peridise which is Not a prostate stimulator. However, what I think is happening is the Peridise sets up anal tremors, twitching/spasms which in turn cause the Prostate, Coopers gland etc to throb and express their contents.

    Just a thought
  • Cowpers emissions (pre-cum) are stimulated by prostate contact. The smaller models of Aneros (MGX, SGX, Helix, Eupho) while excellent at stimulating the prostate (Eupho sends me into orbit) they don't really bring much pressure to bear on the prostate, per se. At least for me they don't. I cannot bring enough anal muscle contraction strength to massage the prostate with much force.

    Progasm, otoh, is much larger, longer and has greater mass. And with Progasm, and it's larger size, etc., I flow a good quantity of Cowpers when I use my Progasm, much more than any other model. Is it more pleasant? Well, I can certainly tell when my prostate is being "milked" by the Progasm, and I would have to say that the dry O's are more intense when I am able to generate precum than when I don't.

    Having said that, my sessions with Helix and Eupho are also excellent, just different, and not so prone to stimulate my Cowper's gland. So, for me, and I hate to say this after my posts about penis enlargement elsewhere in the forum...Size does matter! (for precum anyway...Ha).

    My .02.

    Cockadoodle
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Is there a disagreement here between Cockadoodle and rook about whether the Progasm is good for prostate milking? I have an MGX now and I'm starting to believe I don't need another model to get the benefits of Aneros use, but thinking about getting another model for that "different" experience, hopefully one that is good for prostate milking. Hey Cockadoodle, would you and rook agree that the Maximus is good for milking?
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Whoa. Please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding. My posts were meant to apply only to my own experience and not to summarize the experience of others.

    Simply put, we're dealing with different ass-holes and one size or shape doesn't fit all. Much like having adjustable seats in cars.

    Remember that Cowpers release has little to do with Prostate massage therapy. Precum lubes the urethra and balances it's chemistry to improve sperm viability. It also helps with vaginal penetration. If you want to massage the Prostate pick the tool that best accomplishes that job and ignore the hype about pre-cum.

    Remember ... YMMV.
  • Korkelz
    Posts: 294
    Don't mean to bloat the topic with personal interactions; rook, looks like it was I who didn't understand. I thought you were making more of an official statement based on the shape of the aneros compared to the average body as opposed to just your personal experience, so it was my misunderstanding!
  • I'm new to thiis, and have not yet become comfortable with my Progasm. However, I've had over 35 years of experience being a sexually interested and active adolescent or adult male, and I also work in a medical job and environment, so have had some "hands on" experience. Rook's comments are right on: he has the anatomy and physiology down pretty well.

    Some guys are precummers, and some aren't. I've always been a leaker. It was embarassing as a middle schooler and high schooler, and I learned early to never wear khaki or light colored pants if I were going out with a girl. As an adult male I've learned to appreciate oozing good quantities of pre-ejaculatory fluid ("pre"). It's a terrific lube enhancing both intercourse and wanking, and it has a delicious clean sweet taste - and both me and my wife (as well as other cocksuckers in passing) love the stuff.

    Mine flows freely with sexual thoughts and imaging, and is copious during foreplay, and it pretty much accompanies every erection I get. Having manipulated some men's anuses during imaging studies, I know that pressure at the base of the penis and just inside the anal sphincter (before reaching the prostate and seminal vesicles) causes most adult males to leak something, and I'm pretty certain that any man can ooze with enough of the proper anatomical pressure and massage.

    Prostatic and seminal vesicle fluids do not generally have the crystal clarity of precum, nor the sweetness (which a urologist friend has told me is fructose).

    I'm hoping I can get comfortable with my Progasm and work on obtain pleasure from the prostate stimulation.
  • rookrook
    Posts: 1,603
    Yeah RTJ,

    Sometime back in this forum, a gent posted that his g/f had asked him to "sweeten up" his pre-cum by cutting back on the beer and drinking Pineapple Juice several times a day.

    Sad the inconveniences we must endure to please the opposite sex! :-)
  • [QUOTE=rook;92612]Yeah RTJ,

    Sometime back in this forum, a gent posted that his g/f had asked him to "sweeten up" his pre-cum by cutting back on the beer and drinking Pineapple Juice several times a day.

    Sad the inconveniences we must endure to please the opposite sex! :-)

    rook -

    In my experience, precum is always sweet and crystal clear - it dries without staining your sheets or pants. On the other hand cum (semen) is viscous, generally white and opaque or opalescent, and tends to be salty, and has a slight odor (or aroma) of chlorine bleach - and it does leave a starchy stain.

    I've heard that avoidance of alcohol, meats, salt, and the consumption of fruits (especially pineapple) improve the taste of semen.

    I've tasted my cum, but am not really into it - not a cum junkie. But I fuckin' LOVE pre!

    - rip