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movement - MGX vs Helix
  • davinci
    Posts: 2
    hi

    just got my aneros the other day. I bought the MGX and the Helix. I thought I only would buy the Helix at first but then i got the MGX too. The reason I got the MGX too was because I didn't really trust the design of the Helix. Everybody on the forum seems to say that the helix is more agressive in it's design and you feel it right away. I thought the shape at the bottom of the MGX (close to the handle)would make it easier to move than the Helix. So I tried both and I was right...the MGX moved with little effort and the Helix didn't move as much. Is this a technique thing? Has anyone experienced the same?

    This was my first session though. I've been in to anal play before so I'm quite comfortable with the concept. And I'm sure I will learn to appriciate both models...

  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Da Vinchi,

    To the contrary, I've found the Helix MORE mobile than the MGX for precisely the reason that you site. The ribbing at the bottom of the MGX affords more resistance....the HELIX is more slippery in that department. That said, the Helix is larger in the body which can make for a tighter fit for some, ergo: more resistance. Once again, it depends on the individual to some extent. Regardless, they are both great units and should have a good time with either.

    Enjoy!


    BF Mayfield
  • Edit
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    I found the MGX to be much more mobile than the helix, have atually stopped using the helix, I think it is a question of ones body make up (internally), I can get the helix to produce some minor sensations, but the MGX drives me wild!!!!! I am going to order the MGX Classic, had that one at first until I broke it, the classic I found to be unbelievable in producing sensations.
    Good luck to all, and find the one that works best, remember, it seldom works "righT out of the box", PATIENCE IS THE KEY.
  • davinci
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    hmmm...I think the cone shaped design in the bottom of the MGX makes it easy to pull inside your body. With the Helix I contracted and nothing happened. Another question I have now after my second session. I can't seem to keep the perineum tab in place when I get hard. It slides to either side of the bulge which is made of the erection. And if it's on the side it must also be twisted inside and not really applying the right stimulation to the prostate...is there a trick to it?

    thanks for the replies

    /d
  • Edit
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    I also agree that the MGX is a better tool for some of us. I bought it first then the Helix. I like the larger top side of the Helix but the bottom just does not allow me to move it like the MGX. With the MGX the tab presses firmly but with the Helix the tab does not. I have since cut off the curly handle on my MGX which really allows me to move it around better.
  • I also have trouble keeping the p-tab from slipping off to one side or the other. It usually slips more at first, but as the aneros is drawn in deeper it settles into place. I don't know of a sure-fire way of stopping it from moving around, but I'd love to hear if anyone has suggestions!
  • Edit
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    I have a very simple but effective solution to make the P-tab stay relatively stationary. What I do is wrap it in a few folds of toilet paper (any absorbent paper will do), then tie down the paper with a rubber band so it doesnt get separated from the P-tab. That way my perinium is relatively lube free (whatever lube reaches there is absorbed by the paper) and the tab moves very little if at all, due to the added friction between my skin and the paper.

    YMMV.
  • Edit
    Posts: 0
    Hi!


    Im still considering to buy an aneros and still dont know if Helix or classic...

    Te big differecne that I can see is the base of the helix. I dont really understand how it works, because it is slmaller than there is a wider part...the others has a cone-like shape, getting thicker slowly...

    If you use the Helix do you put it all in or should it move ont the first wider part? Im sorry if its not clear, its hart to explain...
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Silentp,

    Given the design of the Helix, it's easy to get confused. (I covered this in my review of the Helix at the top of the forum Next Generation Reviewed. The Helix is not designed to be completely inserted (all the way down to the base). That first notch is there for purposes of balancing the unit...that's all.

    In terms of which unit to purchase, as you can see there are a great deal of opinions on that subject. My suggestion is to do a bit more reading, here in the forum. Many users have been very detailed about what determined their preference for one model or another. Check 'em out...then take the plunge!

    BF Mayfield




  • Edit
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    Hi B!


    I read the forum, and indeed there are many personal differences...Somewhere a guy wrote that he cant move the helix az much as the maximus, you said there the opposite. Its just that aneros is quite expensive for me and I dont have the chance to buy more, like "well that doesnt work for me, lets try another one". Helix is said to be better for newbies but I dont trust its form. Maximus looks better but its said to be less "agressive"...So my problem is that I need some advice to choose good. I know its different from man to man but... I have to make a decision :-)
  • Maximus
    Posts: 62

    Originally Posted By: GEEZER
    I found the MGX to be much more mobile than the helix, have atually stopped using the helix, I think it is a question of ones body make up (internally), I can get the helix to produce some minor sensations, but the MGX drives me wild!!!!!


    I agree with you on this. Not only is the MGX more mobile (I have the classic), but I find it is more stimulating than the Helix. Part of this is due to greater mobility, but being less blunt than the Helix, it's able to press harder on the prostate. With the blunter Helix, the force is applied over a greater area. The more localized deeper pressure of the MGX may make a difference depending on the location and sensitivity of the prostate.

    What I've been doing lately is starting out with Helix to loosen things up and then switching to the MGX which then moves very freely.

    -Max
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    (this post was edited 2005-08-06 16:49:36)



    Although I would beg to differ with Max's assessment on the Helix (particularly on the issue of which model provides the most pressure), I would have to conceed that the MGX was originally designed as one size fits all device. By contrast, the intent on the part of the manufacturer in creating the Next Generation Line (the Helix being one) was to address more specific needs. I had made the assertion early on that I felt that the Helix offered more intense contact up front, which I'd believed could translate into a shorter learning curve. Some responses have supported this while others have related having better luck with the Maximus or staying with the MGX.

    While I understand the arguments made by the proponents of the MGX Classic (which I'm still a big fan of) that it is more responsive, (being that it is not as wide as the Helix and less contoured and has a more tapered base....a feature which is offset to a certain extent by the presence of the ribs on the base), the same cannot be said for the Maximus. This unit is without a doubt the widest device (overall) that HIH produces, and features a very blunt tip (it was nicknamed the hammer by the Aneros staff for a time, because it resembles a ball peen hammer). As I've stated before, I found this model somewhat sluggish and out of balance. That said, I'm loathed to argue with anyone else's success with it,... as a matter of fact, I celebrate it! I've used it as a great warm-up and have actually had several nice orgasms with it, but it would not be my first choice as a sole unit.

    So which one to get? If price was not an issue I'd say to get both the MGX Classic and the Helix.

    If it must be one, the conventional wisdom would be to go for the Classic. One other feature that the Classic has going for it (which no one has mentioned) are the raised nodules on the tip. I love them, and you'll find them on no other Aneros model at this time.

    Regardless of which unit that you do finally purchase, know this, there will most likely be a learning curve for you to deal with. It's a period of time during which you will explore new sensations and become accustomed to using this device. If you are patient and open to this stage it can be a very rewarding experience in it's own right. So be open and embrace this experience with a beginner's mind as much as possible and don't forget to enjoy the ride!


    BF Mayfield
  • Maximus
    Posts: 62
    (this post was edited 2005-08-07 08:53:12)

    (this post was edited 2005-08-07 08:51:53)

    Originally Posted By: B Mayfield
    (this post was edited 2005-08-06 16:49:36)
    Although I would beg to differ with Max's assessment on the Helix (particularly on the issue of which model provides the most pressure),


    B.--
    Our differences on this point may just be that of interpretation. I totally agree the Helix provides surer and greater contact with prostate than the Classic, which I find is more of a hit or miss proposition due to its smaller diameter. However, for me at least, the stimulation of the Classic can be more intense. The best way I can describe this is the difference between someone pressing on your chest with a palm and then a finger using the same force each time. The finger is going to be more intense and penetrate into the flesh more because there is more force per unit area than with the palm. How this difference in contact area inside you, down below, translates into to stimulation is likely a matter of anatomy.

    In all honesty, my preference of Aneros model is quite fickle. Somedays, the model that worked so well the previous session fails to excite, and calling in one of the lesser stars to pinch hit wins the game. Last night for example, I started out with Helix, which has been in sort of a slump as of late, intending to call in the Classic to finish. But soon after switching off, I switched back to the Helix, which redeemed itself admirably, as I just wasn't getting the results with Classic.

    Regardless, my basic recommendation on which Aneros to purchase initially remains unchanged from my contribution to Aneros The Next Generation Reviewed sticky and consistant with your view: either the Helix or Classic. Each has its own advantages: the sure thing contact of the Helix vs. the more agile Classic.

    -Max
  • Edit
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    ok


    I think I'll try the good old mgx and see whats happening first...
  • hulahula
    Posts: 212
    Just wondering, has anyone gone from an MGX to an SGX and gotten good results?
  • I have found the helix to be more mobile for me. I attribute this to lack of notches at the base. Remember everyone has a favorite. I just like the movement the helix gives me with contractions compared to my MGX.
  • Edit
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    As I read this I see four votes for MGX and one vote for Helix. So it seems the MGX is prefurred if you can only have one.

    K
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
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    Kman,

    Recount! I'd give the edge to the Helix myself.

    BF Mayfield
  • Edit
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    OK, a recount -

    davinci - Preference for MGX over Helix (MGX 1)
    B Mayfield - Preference here and in other review for Helix (Helix 1)
    Geezer - MGX is more mobile and stopped using Helix (MGX 1)
    Mark - "I also agree the MGX is a better tool for some of us." Helix doesn't move as much but has bigger top. (MGX 1)
    Maximus - MGX is more mobile and more stimulating then the Helix. (MGX 1)
    luvinaneros - "I have found the Helix to be more mobile for me" (Helix 1)

    The others didn't express a opinion or hadn't purchased one yet. So yes, I did miscount. But that still gives us:

    MGX 4 and Helix 2

    Of course this is a small survey so not statiscally accurate in any way. And it could be that the one you start with, and work with for a while, you like best. Which would give a advantage to the older model. Butt...
  • Edit
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    I ordered the MGX, so I hope I made the right choice. But I guess I will never know for sure since I won't likely order otehr to compare it with.

    Thanx