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Totally Freaked Out...I think I was starting to have a Super O...Heart Attack?
  • chrono273chrono273
    Posts: 44
    Hey guys! Ive been trying to reach the pleateau for over a year now, and tonight I think I basically almost hit it. The only issue was. It was terrifying. I felt shocks through my entire rear, which was pleasarable. However, it started becoming to intense, my heart began beating faster than I ever though possible and I could literally feel blood pumping from my heart with an almost electricity like sensation all over my body. But...it scared me shitless...I felt like I was gonna have a heart attack. So I abruptly stopped due to fear of hurting myself. Im still shaking and convulsing slightly just by imagining it happening.....was that the start of a super O? And are they dangerous at all??

    Thanks!

    chrono273
  • chrono273chrono273
    Posts: 44
    Im assuming this is the so called "terror at the gates" that occurs. Scary scary stuff.
  • HelixerHelixer
    Posts: 566
    It's probably just a panic attack and otherwise you might have the dubious honor to be the first to experience a Super D.
    So what then is a Super D?
    The lexicon of Super O's and T's etc are engraved in the collective consciousness of every Aneros user and as with those epithets a Super D is a very subjective experience, but whereas the O's and T's are orgasming in life, or the 'little death'....it's nothing compared to a Super Death, or orgasming into death.
    So how does one know for sure of A) being first and b ) having passed over with a Super D?

    One don't.....

    But one can never be sure if one has experienced a Super O either, but there are certain tell tale signs.....

    The thing to watch for is in the mortuary...If something goes 'bump in the night' or while friends and relatives are paying their last respects......
    If you hear a pffffft sound and a bump and p.e. a Progasm comes out followed by a heap of shit....then I'd vouch for a Super D!!!

    "Read all about it, read all about it"
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,252
    chronos273,

    If you are the former member 'chronos86' you may wish to go back and re-read the thread Hypnosis and Aneros Experience which deals with this same issue about allowing your ego self to relinquish control to your inner body self.

    The physical sensations you described are all normal body reactions to increased arousal as you approach orgasm, these are NOT dangerous! They may in fact be very healthy for you.

    It sounds like you are very close to crossing over to the Super-O but your ego is still refusing to "Just Let Go". Surrendering ego control to your own sub-conscious may be the real problem here. Understand this, the "terror at the gates" will vaporize into nothing when you surrender the false notion of control and indulge yourself in the pleasure.
  • chrono273chrono273
    Posts: 44
    Appreciate the response Rumel. And yea, I was chronos86. Couldnt get the old name to work probably because I was absent for so long. I stopped using my aneros for a while because of several full body pains i was encountering while using (psychosomatic). I sorted out alot of my emotional issues and got to the "gates" on my second session, without the aid of a hypnotic session. And yes, I think Im terrified to let myself go. Im a very controlling person and fear losing myself in a pleasure abyss. Also....im scared I might get addicted and do nothing else....

    I have a terribly addictive personality.

    Also, quick question. I felt that after experiencing such intense pleasure (although not quite a Super O), I was having headaches, I felt emotionally and spiritually drained. Is this a common occurance? And should breaks be taken between sessions? IE Only once or twice per week?

    Thanks again.

    Lol @ your comment helixer. Super D huh. I guess it does sound pretty silly to have a heartattack from orgasming....especially at my age. Im only 23. I tend to imagine the worst case scenerios. Its just nuts that your body has the potential to feel so good that you literally convulse.
  • Tomasheen
    Posts: 181
    I like to imagine that if one passed away while thus engaged, for example., having a Super O, it might be that the experience continues on for eternity. This might truly be Paradise but after the first million years or so, it might begin to feel like Hell...or worse!!! Tomasheen
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Chrono,:)

    So your little Kundalini friend turned around and gave you a bite?

    Over a few years I've had around twenty of these surprises in my exploration of the Aneros and KSMO and I know they can be a bit scary when they suddenly hit you.

    My take on these visitors is this:-

    Two things have to happen on the journey: the body and mind have to learn how to generate these massive orgasms and the mind has to build its capability to handle them comfortably without panicking. Mostly the two aspects keep in step and track each fairly well. Sometimes it might happen, however, that a sudden spurt of progress occurs and the mind becomes overwhelmed.

    Don't worry about it. Although you might have more - there's no guarantee against a terror visiting - they eventually go away as your mind learns to accept the stratospheric sensations. Try to regard such events as a sure sign of progress. I've had some pretty alarming ones but they have never harmed me.

    Good luck,

    Mog
  • Welcome to the Super-O club my friend. Pretty amazing huh? You can have that again and again some stronger than others. Congratulations man!
  • chrono273chrono273
    Posts: 44
    Its annoying. It seemed like I had all this progress. Was on the verge of a super O and I tried again the last few nights. Absolutely no success. Seems like progress comes and vanishes in spurts.

    Fear could be a possibility still although I thought I was relaxing. I never got to the edge again and found myself frustrated.

    Maybe I should chill for a week or so and let my mind, subconscious, and body recooperate.

    Any thoughts, suggestions?

    Thanks!
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    >Seems like progress comes and vanishes in spurts.<<br />
    Don't expect anything else.

    >Maybe I should chill for a week or so and let my mind, subconscious, and body recouperate.<<br />
    If you have the patience to do that it will probably be good for your progress. But don't overdo it! The KSMO fellas try to follow the principle, when learning, to practice one day and then not the next. This seems to allow the mind to assimilate better and quicker what it is learning. I would expect that would pay off well with learning the Aneros practice too if you can discipline yourself to do that (I never could!).

    Above all, don't fret if your progress is not always as you would hope for. Expectation, from many accounts, seems to be a very effective progress killer.

    And remember that Super-Os don't come on a schedule!
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,252
    chrono273,

    It is quite understandable why you are having limited success and meeting with frustration. Your mind seems to be conflicted about this activity (self pleasuring using Aneros devices). You are frustrated because your body is more than willing to explore the boundaries of pleasure but your mind is fixated on trying to control all aspects of the experience - ("...I'm terrified to let myself go. I'm a very controlling person and fear losing myself in a pleasure abyss. Also....I'm scared I might get addicted and do nothing else...")

    'Mog' shared his excellent insight into this situation and I fully agree with his recommendation of "Don't worry about it." I know it is easier to say that than it is to actually do it, but... You need to understand and accept you can NOT really control or force this experience (the Super-O) to occur. You intuitively know taking a break to assimilate your learning is a wise decision. While taking this break, I hope you will ponder your reasoning for a fixation on the control issue. If you take the time to think about each small aspect of your reasoning and self-challenge the rationality underlying that reasoning, you will make some progress. IMHO, for you, a key aspect of this journey is trusting yourself, trust that you will do no harm to yourself, trust that surrendering control to your sub-conscious inner body wisdom will not threaten your ego functioning in the day to day world and trust your higher consciousness to whisper sound guidance along the way to avoid any obsessiveness.
  • chrono273chrono273
    Posts: 44
    As always Rumel, I appreciate your quick responses my friend.

    I am working through alot right now. And have actually found alot out about myself and my emotions, which are I believe leading me on a path closer to anxiety relief, ability to go with the flow, and being free from pain.

    I recently bought and read the book "The Divided Mind, The Epidemic of Mindbody Disorders" and this book has begun to set me free. It has taught me about my repressed emotions fear, anger, etc, and how they cause me anxiety and pain. By evaluating these things I have started to be able to give in more, not be so control focused...and better yet, be almost completely pain free (I have a history of chronic pain issues that I found were linked to my subconscious emotions)

    But yea, I think you are exactly right rummel. Its just a matter of sorting through my emotions and informing the subconscious that despite my fears...things will be OK.