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Thanks, and Progasm success question for big guys.
  • Hello Everyone,
    I’m a new user and this is my 1st posting.
    I want to say “Thank You” to all those who've shared personal experiences and thoughts about the Aneros.

    I’ve read a lot of really good postings and I wish is that I was around when many of these conversations were active.

    A month ago I bought a progasm. I’ve used it seven or eight times and aside from the first time, where there was mild tingling and slight leaking of fluid, there has been no progress. I honestly feel that this is not hitting my prostate. I am in my mid-forties, 6’1 and 210 lbs. The only way I can feel anything now is if I move it in and out manually or pushing the P tab further down. I’ve taken posters advice and have reduced expectations to enjoying every experience for what it is. I DO like the size and feel of it. It’s very addictive having that thing up my butt.

    I’d like to find out how many men with a similar build have been successful with the progasm without any modifications and how long it took for something to happen.


    Thanks for any responses guys.



    Igo.
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hi Upinthere,

    Welcome to the forum. I personally feel as though after 7 or 8 sessions that it is way too early to do any modifications to your Progasm. The re-wiring process is a gradual one that takes longer in some. You are moving in the right direction it sounds like, you love the feel of it inserted. That feeling will build into something pretty unimaginable to you right now. Relax and have a great time.
  • Hi Buster,

    Thanks for the reply. After reading your comment and another sent by private message it does appear that along with most of the other new guys I need to relax and enjoy the ride.

    regards,


    Igo
  • i also bought the progasm and then the helix .
    I had experience with anal play . and i do not mind the bigger toys .

    I thought i was sensitive down there . but those contractions and involuntaries were a tricky thing , it came only after a while .
    I switched back and forth , btw the helix and progasm . trying to find the winner .

    The progasm was much better felt ( i am roughly your height and weight ) .

    it was only today , i tried to fall asleep with the helix in ( progasm too big for that ) .
    it was everything but sleep.

    i nearly reached the super O .

    basically , i found the following advice to make the difference :

    1.insert the aneros halfway , then let your body suck it in .
    2.keep the k tab and perineum lubed , avoid sitting as it may stuck the k tab , inhibiting movement . if you feel session is going nowhere , reposition the aneros to gain mobility .
    3. most important ! :
    there are 3 different of muscles used :
    a.rectal - felt as you bear , same one you use in bowel movement . to push away .
    b.PC - the muscles you use to stop urine flow .
    c.anal - used in clenching and unclenching .

    it was not until i became aware of the PC muscles , and clenched those , that i got close to the super O .
    make sure you excercise all the 3 muscles .

    the advice i read on this forum that really changed it all , from frustration to exhilaration was :
    when you try to hold clench any muscle over time , it will become fatigued and will have involuntary contractions .

    thats the key to it all . no need to "hammer in" and go for full clenching , or deep relaxation as you would in any other anal play . it's much , much more gentle .

    the whole concept is much finer than anal \ ass play . where the key in other anal activity is to relax your muscles and be able to take size increasing toys , it's NOT the case here ! , it's all about fine inputs and the little details .

    the weirdest thing for me , was to not touch myself , except orgasm when i am flaccid ( am i normal ? ) , and more than all : FOCUS ON THE SENSATION , it's really tricky to lose it , and then start all over again .

    I tried to keep it short , as there are so many posts in here , one can drown in info . hope it helps you . and just remember , pleasure will find you when you least expect it . just put it in , and walk around the house , lay in your bed , try to stretch your muscles , it will come . oh it will
  • Hi OpMayhem,

    Thanks for the response. You've made some very helpful points. I hadn't been thinking about using the different muscles. I'd just been focusing on the 3rd with goal driven force.


    It's interesting you mentioned keeping the k tab and perineum lubed.
    I specifically was keeping those areas dry thinking there needed to be friction.

    You said: when you try to hold clench any muscle over time , it will become fatigued and will have involuntary contractions . This comment has me the most excited and ready to give it another shot.


    I had to take a little break because I was getting too obsessed and finding myself wanting it inserted ALL the time. I can't imagine what I'll have to contend with once I finally achieve the O, but I'd certainly be willing to cross that bridge.

    What type and how much lube do you use? Do you relax quietly, use music or visual stimuli? I'm not much for porn mags or videos.

    Thanks again,

    Igo
  • GeogioGeogio
    Posts: 107
    I have to agree that 7 or 8 times is not enough to really or dial it in. Personally, I would have started a little smaller, say MGX or Helix, maybe Maximus. My research kept hitting on the subject of movement and ability to work it (i.e. articulation). So that's where I went to. Reading the wiki, adjusting the lube etc... and soon I was into 7 or 8 sessions before I felt adequately familiarized with the techniques, mind you, not proficient but only familiarized. After a few months passed of 1 perhaps 2 sessions per week (sometimes 3) I began to make some real progress.

    One thing I worked on was time and relaxation. I only practiced after complete bowl evacuation through a high fiber diet and only after significant colonic events (that a term I heard once from a doctor and I got real laugh out of that discriptive).

    It didn't take too long when I noticed my body doing odd things, like... in anticipation of an upcoming session, I would suddenly have to use the bathroom after I got home and after a bit of stretching, or a workout, I showered, set up the bed, silenced the surrounding with ear protectors and really had some outstanding episodes.

    These protocals were necessary for me to get where I wanted to go. I read through the milestones on the wiki, copied them to a document and began going down the list as time progressed and the amount of sessions increased.

    One thing I have noticed is that because of the time expenditure, I have absolutely slowed down my love making. I much have much more patience with my friends, don't rush into the "act" and have increased my ability to have very, VERY pleasurable lovemaking. Almost as if I am recreating those sessions at a pace more in line with what the Aneros has taught me.

    Zen? I can't tell you. But I can say that this program has been very instructive to me and as been very helpful in my interactions during lovemaking.
  • Upinthere said:

    Hi OpMayhem,

    Thanks for the response. You've made some very helpful points. I hadn't been thinking about using the different muscles. I'd just been focusing on the 3rd with goal driven force.


    It's interesting you mentioned keeping the k tab and perineum lubed.
    I specifically was keeping those areas dry thinking there needed to be friction.

    You said: when you try to hold clench any muscle over time , it will become fatigued and will have involuntary contractions . This comment has me the most excited and ready to give it another shot.


    I had to take a little break because I was getting too obsessed and finding myself wanting it inserted ALL the time. I can't imagine what I'll have to contend with once I finally achieve the O, but I'd certainly be willing to cross that bridge.

    What type and how much lube do you use? Do you relax quietly, use music or visual stimuli? I'm not much for porn mags or videos.

    Thanks again,

    Igo



    Igo ,

    Glad it made sense to you. You want it inserted all the time ? wow...
    well , goal oriented - sure . Us men , we fuck women to get an orgasm - we buy them flowers and take them out to get them to have sex with us - it's all goal oriented with stages completed . Sex without orgasm is not sex for us. But in here, it's really not goal oriented per se. Just let it be, and it will take you places.

    Lube- I tried many,vaseline works best for me. This thing really sticks and stays there for 90 minutes sessions.how much ? - enough to cover the progasm in thin film.and a bit in my rear. I may opt one day to inject 5-7 cc of lube inside me, but for now, I do not see the need.

    K-tab and scrotum lubed - otherwise there is limited or no movement.

    music - i want to be 100% focused on this , so in my case nothing.

    other activities along - you'd laugh your head probably about this , but , the first involuntaries appeared when i was telling a friend on messenger about this toy. I was calves flat on the floor , rest of the body upright , muscled started to get tired , and then... i had difficulties writing...

    I strongly recommend you look at the 'waypoint' in the aneros wiki. if you did , there are so many milestones along that journey, some are really counter intuitive,

    today was my 9th sessionwith my helix .I had a mini O. so much fun. I tried them the progasm , my muscles could not hold it in place.enough is enough, i assume


    :)

    have fun with yr progasm and report advance if you find pleasure.
    I nearly gave up the whole thing and got back to my butt plugs.
  • Georgio- Thanks for your input.

    You obviously have more patience than me. With all the research you’ve done and collecting of data. :D I can almost picture someone flow-charting and graphing progress.
    I admire the focus. My head was starting to spin with all the data I was trying to digest and retain. I’d read through 30 or so posts and become overwhelmed. I’d have to log off.
    I think if I cut and past relevant points it’ll save my poor brain from trying to retain it all.

    Also, I had to laugh about: significant colonic events. It’s so funny how all the years of programming after state 3 potty training that the butt is a dirty thing never to be discussed and certainly never considered for anything other than evacuation. I’m completely on board with your regime and I’m glad to hear you’ve had such great success. Thanks again.


    OpMayhem- I forgot to mention that I liked your signature addition.

    I thought that Vaseline was not supposed to be taken internally due to the petroleum aspect. I may explore some of the homemade vitamin E concoctions I’ve read about.

    I laughed about your butt plug comment. I have a couple and mistakenly tried leaving the house with one inserted. It looked like a senior citizen with a depends moment when it threatened to jettison out of my butt while I was walking at a local Target. Never again!
    It’s so interesting to read so many posts from guys who aren’t scared of their butt holes. I guess that’s just the differences between guys who are secure with their sexuality and guys who run around clenched all the time in confusion. I am tempted to try the Helix as you’ve mentioned your success. I’ll give the Progasm another two months to send me to the moon. Thanks for your help.

    -Igo
  • GeogioGeogio
    Posts: 107
    UP

    If you want the readers diget condensed version, I can put something together for you. But read through the wiki "getting started" section a few times, especially the part about lubrication.

    Lubrication is essential.

    Here's what it basically states (and what I have found to be the most comfortable for me).

    1. ID Glide (at Walgrens or Rite Aide or some other drug store) roughly you will pay around a dollar an ounce. (9 ounces, 10 or so bucks).
    a. 9 ounces works out to 266 milliliters, you will use 5 ml's inside your rectum. That works out to 53 "doses" of ID Glide per bottle. (how's that for anal) 8)

    2. Buy a childrens medicine dropper, bulb type at the Drug store... 3 or 4 bucks.

    3. Wash everything. Using the medicine dropper, draw out 5 ml of ID Glide. On your hands and knees, buns up. Put the loaded dropper into your anus, fully, and squeeze the bulb which puts the lube in the canal. DO NOT LET LOOSE OF THE BULB, as you may pull some lube back into the dropper. Pull the dropper out. That lubes the inside up nicely.

    4. Use ID glide on the aneros, liberally, but you don't have to get drippy. Bend over or back on your knees with buns up and SLOWLY insert the device.

    5. The inside lube job makes things so much nicer.

    That bit of figuring out took me 3 sessions to finally absorb what the wiki was saying and actually comprehending what the wiki was talking about.


    Again, this is what I've found to be effective. Other folks will use different lubes, but I went from KY Jelly to KY personnal and some other like products. I read up on ID Glide, tried a sample and also tried some ASTRO something. But found the ID Glide to be a good product at a better price.

    Breathing is another key factor, and for me... I need silence, daylight or night, if it means hearing protectors I use them. No TV or music. Since I live in a quite area the breeze through the trees with the birds twittering about it very nice.

    Retractions, slow, deep or shallow, mix it up. Just make it feel good and work on relaxation. Total relaxation.... you are getting sleepy, so very.... very sleepy.

    Hope that helps out.

    B.C.N.U.
  • Igo,

    Thanks for your words. Glad you liked my advice and my signature . it's lyrics from a fav of mine.

    I got some news ...

    today , as I was into my 10th session with the helix , I had my first induced multi orgasmS ( as in many , I lost count )

    I started with the progasm , but for some reason , I find the helix much more agile and fun . The progasm I meanwhile keep for later - it's recommended for advanced users , and with all the anal background that i have , I am still not there .

    So, I started , I noticed that the good vibes start not when i lay in bed , but siting in a slightly uncomfy position on the floor , one ass cheek on the floor , the other up . after you do that for a short while , the muscles tense up , then the quivering and involuntaries starts .

    whats new ? I thought , I remembered that when I just let things sort out themselves , thats when it happens with the aneros , so , I watched some porn , and suddenly ...
    a wave of strong pleasure . I tried to lay down to give my aching muscles some rest , but it threatened to subside ... , so , back to the painful position . I think I had 7 different waves of pleasure \ orgasms , in between those waves the feeling was pretty - almost regular .

    The sensation was , that the whole anus area became mostly independent . I then switched seating , on 2 chairs of same height , to allow freedom of movement for that sweet toy that pleased me so much . at this point , I could not bear to take it out , even if I needed to .

    And then it came , without any warning ... a HUGE pleasure . I could not take it anymore .

    So, here's my lessons from this :

    * do not expect an orgasm of the same sort you have experienced so forth , the super O is very different in nature .

    * the progasm proved for me , personally , like not the finest tool for the job . With its size , even a big guy like me find it not as agile and gentle . Maybe for someone bigger , or for later on .

    * being empty is important , as well as aroused .

    * knowing how to exert control on the 3 different sorts of muscles there is the make or break.

    * maintaining constant pressure over the PC muscles ( the ones you use to stop urine flow ) proved to be the winner . once fatigued , the twitching gets serious and thats what you're looking for.

    * as other said , touching the penis is really counter productive .

    thats it for now . I am collecting myself ... regrouping .

    As for you , I laughed my head off when you describe your visit to target ... , I did it only twice , going out with the plug . fond memories.

    If you like ass play and all things anal , you may like hip forums oral and anal sex forum :
    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/forumdisplay.php?s=ca58ff70e5d9f68b45b2010953673b1b&f=13

    People talk there about strapons , ass licking , anal sex polls , toys , reviews , stories and also the aneros.


    I hope things will work out for you and your progasm.

    concerning the vaseline , I've been using it for years on my female partner and on myself , no problems so forth . The only other considerable lube was some silk , one of those new oils , on which there's insuficient data how un\healthy they are.

    The buttplug - if its neck is really narrower , then it should stay put , isnt it ?
    I hate those plugs which demand so much attention to hold them where they need to be. It's not much fun .
    Which one do you use ? If I may ask . I also bought the progasm as I could take even 1.25" wide x +6" long ( insertable ) After such a toy , the progasm seemed like a walk in the park. Boy was I wrong . The progasm feels now like a sledge hammer when all you need is a graphic pen...

    I will close now before it becomes a speech . and will go publish it in the my first super O forum,

    ;)
    Mayhem
  • Georgio ~

    Thanks for sharing.
    I followed all your directions to a T right down to the I.D. lube from Walgreen’s. I think you may have hit the nail on the head in your previous post. I should’ve gotten the smaller one to begin this process. I’m going to print out your condensed version as my reference, but will be buying one of the smaller, more agile ones. The progasm feels comfortable, but I believe is too large to move much and misses the target. I’ve gotten SO relaxed on two occasions I’ve fallen asleep and had to get up at 3:00 a.m. to remove the object. The medicine dropper does make a big difference.


    Igo
  • Mayhem ~

    Congratulations are in order for your multi O’s. I’m only slightly envious.
    I have to say that now I’m even more convinced that I need something smaller such as the helix. I just assumed that the Progasm would be my best bet since I’d had some experience back there. Although the Progasm does feel comfortable, it just doesn’t move.
    I certainly feel like I’m going in the right direction though thanks to you and Georgio.

    Igo.