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How to find the Big “O”
  • biddlema
    Posts: 30
    I couldn’t possibly answer all the threads that appear to have “frustrated” Aneros users. So I decided to write a separate thread.

    Let me start off by saying…

    “I’ve lost that loving feeling!” Unlike many of the frustrated forum participants here, I have managed to experience the ever elusive and hard to find, Big “O”. Unfortunately, I am having some difficulty in finding it again.

    How does this help you? I’m glad you asked.

    I have always tied everything together in trying to achieve the Big “O”. What I mean is, I tried to incorporate as many of the methods and recommendations given on this forum that I could (e.g., using lots of lube, keeping the perineum dry, focusing on my prostate, trying to relax, trying various positions, and the do nothing method).

    BUT, in trying to find the Big “O” a second time, I came to a couple of really important revelations.

    There are two very separate steps in achieving these high levels of self-pleasure:

    First, you need to achieve the “Involuntary Prostate Message.” Many of the suggestions in this forum will help you achieve these little muscle contractions. Don’t play these little quivers or wiggles down! These involuntary anal contractions, messaging your prostate, may be small (mostly internal muscles), but they are incredibly enjoyable. You must achieve these involuntary contractions before you can ever hope to find the Big “O”. So I suggest, if you haven’t already reached this point, forget the Big “O” and concentrate on achieving the “Involuntarys”; as they are often referred to in this forum.

    Second, you need to find your “Perineum Pressure Point (PPP).” Sounds easy enough! But this can be vey difficult for many of us! Mayfield, and many others in this forum, have tried to help, but the truth is this is not something someone can simply tell or show you. As you have probably already read in many other threads, the PPP is slightly different for everyone even if the general location is the same. It varies in size, exact location, and sensitivity for each person. It also seems to be affected by your level of arousal and overall mood.

    Some of the methods for locating the PPP can help, but they don’t work for everyone. Unfortunately, I’m one of those it doesn’t work for!

    As many of you know, I have been lucky enough to have stumbled into a Super “O.” I achieved it using my MGX. Since that time, I have come close (maybe even had a few smaller ones), but nothing like the one I had before. I even ordered the Helix, hoping that it would enhance my chances of achieving the big “O” again. Unfortunately, it didn’t help! In fact, I was very disappointed with the Helix!

    Although, that being said, I have to admit that the Helix is much better (for me) when it comes to the First step. The Helix jumps right out there and starts messaging my prostate like crazy. I mean to tell you! I can experience the ‘Involuntarys’ in almost any position and at any time with the Helix. If your having trouble reaching this point, I highly recommend the Helix. I start having them almost immediately after inserting it, every time! Unfortunately, the perineum tab on the Helix (again at least in my case), does not hit the right spot and does not apply enough pressure.

    Discovering this was actually a good thing, because now I know why I am having difficulty rediscovering the Big “O”. I need to find my PPP. I know I’m close, but I need to make some minor adjustments. Luckily, instructions for adjusting the perineum tab have already been provided in this forum.

    In my case, I know the MGX must be real close to hitting my PPP, because I have found the magic spot once using it. The Helix on the other hand can’t be very close to it, since the involuntarys don't reach the same level of intensity as with the MGX.

    My PPP is obviously fairly small in area, making it very difficult to find by self-examination. I also know that I need a fairly good amount of pressure. I remember when I had the Big “O”, the pressure against it was considerable. I felt like my body was trying to suck the Aneros inside me.

    I am going to try and locate my PPP by modifying the Helix, using a little trial and error. I’ll start by adjusting it to hit approximately the same place as the MGX, and bring it closer in so that it provides a little more pressure. I am certain that if I can locate it, I will have no trouble recreating my Big ”O” experience.

    Advice

    1. Work on achieving the “Involuntarys” first. In fact, you should get to the point were you can achieve and maintain them easily. Forget about the Big ”O” at this point! Read the threads in this forum, they do a great job of pointing the way! And remember, these Involuntarys, as anyone who has seen the movie can tell you, are quite pleasurable themselves.
    2. Find your “Perineum Pressure Point (PPP).” This is easy for some and much harder for others, as I stated earlier. The key here is not to get discouraged and give up. If you can locate it using Mayfield’s directions or by using some other method, great! If not, join me in the trial and error method. Unlike some of you, I at least have a general idea where mine is located. You will know when you are in the right spot, because the Involuntarys will be more intense. In fact, they keep getting more intense until you think you can’t go any further, and BANG...over the top you go. Welcome Big “O”!

    I will follow up and let you know when I locate (or relocate) my PPP, and if I was able to rediscover the Big “O”

    Good Luck to you all!

    Woody


  • Originally Posted By: biddlema

    All Good Information !!!!

    Good Luck to you all!

    Woody


    Hi Woody,

    Great Post. I wanted to add that the Helix for me, brought on the involuntaries, that my MGX NEVER brought on. I have found that the Helix is not suitable for the Super O ........... since I'm one that needs LOTS of pressure on the PPP. For prostate massage, and as an "assist" for traditional masturbation, I like the Helix very much. BUT it is my modified MGX that brings me the most pleasure. I don't know if the Helix is responsible or not, but my Modified MGX now causes very strong involuntaries ... sometimes so strong I have to force myself to release the contraction. The MGX causes me to moan, not so with the Helix.

    I will probably end up modifying the Helix also, using the modified MGX as a guide to how far to bend the tab.

    I was very relieved to find that I was not the only one to find out that the Helix is not a magic bullet to the Super O ..... but it is a superior massager due to its mobility for me.

    I really hope the Sweet spot, over time, becomes more sensitive regardless of which Aneros we use. !!!

    Thanks Again, I feel we are all in this together !!

    Matt
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hey Matt,

    If you have said this before in an earlier post, sorry, but my question has to do with the modification that you did to your MGX. Did you move the tab to hit closer to your anus? Was it just a slight adjustment or quite a distance? Also, does anybody who have found the spot, are you finding that it is right in the center, or off to one side or another. I know it is different for everybody, but I thought this might help. I am not willing to give up on my MGX quite yet.

    Later guys.

    Buster
  • Edit
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    I have discovered that if one has a longer interval between ejaculations, then the sweet spot seems to heighten in its sensitivity and then the aneros tab seems to hit it more easily. The mgx for me is way better than the helix although I must admit that with a minor mod and stopping masterbating that the helix is starting to work better on the sweet spot.
    For us senior types the period between ejaculations is longer than for the younger set so its easier for us in a sense to monitor body responses to these events, now, if I just leave my cock alone I know I could have the biggy!!!!! lol..

  • Originally Posted By: Buster
    Hey Matt,

    If you have said this before in an earlier post, sorry, but my question has to do with the modification that you did to your MGX. Did you move the tab to hit closer to your anus? Was it just a slight adjustment or quite a distance? Also, does anybody who have found the spot, are you finding that it is right in the center, or off to one side or another. I know it is different for everybody, but I thought this might help. I am not willing to give up on my MGX quite yet.

    Later guys.

    Buster


    Hi Buster,

    No problem repeating this stuff. I moved the tab closer to the anus ... towards the main body of the Aneros. This bending also resulted in the tab being bent upward.

    The adjustment was about a quarter of an inch both upwards and inwards....from what I can tell comparing it to the Helix, side by side. I do not know how much it was adjusted from the original MGX positioning.

    Most importantly the tab must rest on the RIGHT side of the skin ridge, in answer to your question about it being off center. I've really experimented with this and if the tab slips to the left side of the ridge, absolutely NOTHING takes place.

    Good Luck,

    Matt
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hi Matt,

    I am laughing as I write this. When you say to the right, do you mean on YOUR right or on the right of someone standing there looking at you?

    Geezer, I also laughed (I must be in a good mood) when you said it was easier for the older ones to go longer without masturbating thus being more in touch with body signals. I remember what it was like to not be able to go more than 2 days! It is better now.

    Buster

  • Originally Posted By: Buster
    Hi Matt,

    I am laughing as I write this. When you say to the right, do you mean on YOUR right or on the right of someone standing there looking at you?



    Buster


    Hi Buster,

    Towards YOUR right hand. I was watching some porn the other day (DVD Devil's Hardcore - Anal Pounding #5 Straight 4 hour compilation) and in one scene there was Tom Byron in action. Closeups revealed that ridge line of nerves that I talk about having to be on the right side of it. On Tom, his is so clear it looks as though someone drew it in with a red marker !!!. I'm guessing his nerve endings are really sensitive.

    Speaking of porn ........... I watch Anal stuff exclusively with the Aneros workouts since I can better do all the visualizations etc. Oral action "diverts" my attention etc. to my penis, which is not where the energy needed for the "Super O" should go. In my quest for the "Super O", I tried to fine tune EVERYTHING related to it and started paying attention to the kind of action that best got my prostate tingling. I have to admit that seeing a guy having his butt eaten really kicks my aneros sensations into high gear, better than anything else I watch, since I can "imagine" me feeling it.

    Good Luck,

    Matt