Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Sign In with Google

In this Discussion

coconut oil
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    can somebody recommend a brand of coconut oil.

    i want it to be thin enough to use w/ a syringe.

    darwin
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    Coconut oil is coconut oil.

    Choose any brand that is organic. Then there are two kinds - unrefined and refined.

    Unrefined has slightly lower melting point than refined and seems thinner, but my experience is that refined lasts longer as a lube. But both change state at seventy-some degrees F, so depending on where you live and the ambient room temperature it will be solid or liquid in the jar.

    But whether solid or liquid, all you need is one middle finger of it to pre-lube your rectum. Then wash hands and coat your Aneros and slip it in. I cool mine in the fridge (not the freezer) first so that the oil solidifies on application, then you get more oil on the job when inserted. And in a hot place, it's lovely and refreshing when it goes in cool.

    One application lasts me a good two hours.
  • Virg
    Posts: 154
    I agree with GrandTiger's assessment.

    I use a syringe but have considered making a coconut oil "suppository"...a small ice cube tray in the refrigerator should work...

    It also works very well for exterior activities...smells good, does not get sticky like water-based lubes, a little goes a long way...

    Virg
  • buttercup
    Posts: 44
    We've been using coconut oil for a few months now; Wal-Mart seems to have the best price. Where we live it's usually so warm that it never really solidifies so keeping it in the refrigerator is something we've been considering, along with pouring some of it into a lotion dispenser to keep by the bed-the best of both worlds, lol!
    It has no odor or taste but it is EXTREMELY slippery so make sure to be very careful once it's on your hands, and do yourself a favor and always put the cap back on immediately.
    One of my favorite things about it is that it resembles come when hubby pours it into his hands or onto himself (he kind of makes a production of it now that he knows about this) and it gets me even hotter than I already am. :oops:
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    That's a great idea Virg, to make coconut oil suppositories in the fridge. I've been putting my massager in the fridge and then coating it with liquid oil which then solidifies. But even then some melts too quickly as I'm inserting it and I have to wipe around it with a tissue. I like your idea better because the suppositories will be very solid having been kept longer in the fridge and will slide in with less loss.

    Thanks Virg, I'll try it out; it should be very refreshing too.

    Buttercup, I found the refined coconut oil to be completely tasteless and odorless, but the unrefined does have a very pleasant coconut flavor and smell. Ooooooooo Buttercup, I'm so happy for you and your hubby enjoying each other so much. You are hot stuff :) By the way, the refined oil, which evidently you have, is intended for "cooking" at medium to high heat!
  • buttercup
    Posts: 44
    GT, the bottle doesn't say refined or unrefined, but I did buy it in the latin cooking section of Wal-Mart so you're probably right. All I know is that it doesn't smoke no matter how hot we get! :D
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    virg-

    the coconut oil sounds thick. how do you get it into the syringe?

    darwin
  • Virg
    Posts: 154
    darwin,

    It depends on the temperature. It goes solid where I live, so I run it under some hot water or let it float in a bowl of hot water, then I just suck it up or pour it into the syringe.

    Virg
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi Guys!

    This sounds like something I would like to try!

    Is it condom safe (latex)???

    Hlaser99
  • mobilesub
    Posts: 77
    ...having successfully used KY and Vaseline since the start of my journey, I have read the various lube threads with interest. This one has me raising an eyebrow due to content I read elsewhere.

    Is coconut oil safe to use due to the saturated fats? I'm getting to the age where cholesterol is becoming harder to manage and my cheeseburger days are behind me. Is there an unsaturated fat version of coconut oil on the shelf at Wal-mart?

    I'm keen to find a healthier lube but there are so many conflicting bits of data on this topic.
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    It turns out that coconut oil is very healthy for the arteries.

    It was the soy industry that was responsible for the big lie that tropical oils are bad. They lied to promote the sale of soy products. For that reason I try to avoid soy as much as possible.

    Soy enjoy coconut oil in both ends of your digestive tract for good health.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,254
    mobilesub, etal.

    I just went to the cupboard and pulled out four different vegetable oils and compared labels, based on one tablespoon, they all had 120 calories, 0mg. of cholesterol, 0mg. of sodium, 0g. of total carbohydrate and 14g. of total fat. It is in the total fat distribution that they differ as follows
    TYPE OF OIL – SATURATED – POLYUNSATURATED - MONOUNSATURATED
    Almond – 1g. – 4g. – 9g.
    Walnut - 1.2g. - 8.5g. - 3.1g.
    Olive – 2g. – 2g. – 10g.
    Soybean – 2g. – 8g. – 3g.
    Shea butter - 6.45. - 0.7g. - 6.1g.
    Coconut – 12g. – 1g. – 1g.

    Regarding the types of fats :
    Monounsaturated fat is considered to be probably the healthiest type of general fat. It has none of the adverse effects associated with saturated fats, trans-fats or omega-6 polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Sources of monounsaturated fat : Olive oil (73 per cent) rapeseed oil (60 per cent) hazelnuts (50 per cent) almonds (35 per cent) Brazil nuts (26 per cent) cashews (28 per cent) avocado (12 per cent) sesame seeds (20 per cent) pumpkin seeds (16 per cent).
    Health benefits of monounsaturated fat : Monounsaturated fat is believed to lower cholesterol and may assist in reducing heart disease. Like polyunsaturated fat it provides essential fatty acids for healthy skin and the development of body cells.
    Monounsaturated fat is also believed to offer protection against certain cancers, like breast cancer and colon cancer.
    Monounsaturated fats are typically high in Vitamin E, the anti-oxidant vitamin which is usually in short supply in many Western diets.
    Cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, if not over-heated, provides a range of phyto-chemicals and phenols which help to boost immunity and maintain good health.
    Regarding polyunsaturated fats, researchers found that reduced risk for coronary heart disease (CHD) was more closely associated with an increased consumption of polyunsaturated fats (e.g., soft, trans fat-free margarines made from soybean and canola oil). In fact, an increase in polyunsaturated fat consumption is found to have a greater reduction in CHD risk than increased fruit intake or reduced smoking.

    From http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2006/03/27/the_benefits_of_saturated_fats.htm
    Regarding saturated fats :
    “The much-maligned saturated fats which Americans are trying to avoid are not the cause of our modern diseases. In fact, they play many important roles in the body chemistry:
    • Saturated fatty acids constitute at least 50% of the cell membranes. They are what gives our cells necessary stiffness and integrity.
    • They play a vital role in the health of our bones. For calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats should be saturated.
    • They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease. They protect the liver from alcohol and other toxins, such as Tylenol.
    • They enhance the immune system.
    • They are needed for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids.
    • Elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats.
    • Saturated 18-carbon stearic acid and 16-carbon palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which is why the fat around the heart muscle is highly saturated. The heart draws on this reserve of fat in times of stress.
    • Short- and medium-chain saturated fatty acids have important antimicrobial properties. They protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive tract.“

    As one can see all three of these types of fat have their value in diets, it is up to you to determine a healthy balance. It seems to me any of the oils listed above would be acceptable (except the soybean oil – see Zaneblue’s commentary on soy products effects on orgasmic potential) as long as one adjusts his dietary intake of those fats through meals accordingly.
    I am more comfortable with these simple natural products than I am with the highly processed chemically assembled lubrication products, but that’s just my bias. Each of us has to weigh the potential benefits of good lube versus long term health effects. It is difficult to make logical decisions without a modicum of information about those unfamiliar chemical compounds in the commercial personal lubes. I know this may not answer questions of long term lube safety, but guys, we are a defacto test group for long term intense anal play. There are going to be some long term surprises, we just don’t know what they are.
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    There is also an organic "EXPELLED PRESSED" coconut oil which is MUCH cheaper. I bought a 14 oz. jar made by Tree of Life for $3.50
  • Virg
    Posts: 154
    rumel,

    Thanks for going to the trouble to gather and post the data...

    I have reviewed tons and tons of this type of material, just to come to the conclusion that, for our purposes, there is no perfectly safe oil, or any of lube material, for Aneros activities. The lesser of two (hundred?) evils is hard to determine...

    There are a few oils that may be better than coconut oil but they are pretty hard to find. More on those at a later date...

    I totally agree with you that we are a "defacto" test group, whether we like it or not. In my thread -
    The REAL question about lube...in the Aneros world - I tried to raise questions and concerns about how the Aneros process involves risks that are outside of typical sex play. No manner how many users want to believe it is no different than other sex play, it does have fundemental differences... I truly believe there are going to be long term effects but as you said, those are still unknown...

    All we can do is be smart, be careful, and keep looking for answers...

    Thanks again

    Virg
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,254
    Virg said:

    All we can do is be smart, be careful, and keep looking for answers...
    Virg


    Agreed!
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    After all these years of sexual activity of all sorts, it took getting an Aneros, and reading this forum to find out that glycerin based lubes were %99 of the problem when it came to any irritation I was experiencing after anal play, (either on my own, or with significant other ;-)). After reading this forum, I dumped, (heh... "dumped"... ), the glycerin stuff, got me some non-glycerin lubes, ( stuff from the Essentials line), and et voila! No freakin' irritation!

    btw- coconut oil absolutely ROCKS :lol: ! It may even take the place of the Essentials, at least in regard to the Progasm ;-).
  • So far the coconut oil is working out the best for me.

    I have adopted idea of using the ice tray to create suppositories. It really works, even though the little buggers are a little jagged, they start melting when you put them up there and are not a problem to insert.

    There is a limit to how much can be applied, as it wants to melt. That's fine, and kind of a self limiting issue. If I need more, I can stop and insert another cube.

    The ride is just fine. I feel like I should be a little more careful about overdoing it, and frankly following the KSMO way of going about things, it's probably not such a bad thing. I can have several Os of various size within an hour time frame. In a perfect world, it would be a little stiffer and able to withstand longer sessions, but that's OK right now. Maybe if I take off with the KSMO stuff, it will be a mute point.

    I also have fewer worries now that I am putting something in my system that my body may not be able to so easily eliminate. I have wondered in the past when I have observed a bit of vaseline in the toilet and watched there, day after day, and wondered about it in my own water based system would get rid of it. Cleanup after coconut oil is a breeze compared to vaseline.

    Thanks to all for the research and ideas. It's coconut oil in Peridise for me for the near future. :twisted: :D
  • I have to wonder just how much worse, it at all, good ol' Crisco could be for you? :?:

    It is cheap, and a food based product. I mean, if the digestability of something is the final litmus test, why not?

    I like the coconut oil, but it does not stick quite as well as Crisco. I really don't feel right with Vaseline, even though it works the best. I am feeling wary about the long term effect of using a petroleum based product up there.
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    Just a quick update- I've found that a small amount of Vaseline around the outside of the anus, coupled with an internal rectal application of either 5 to 10 ml's of non-glycerine lube, OR a 2.5 to 10 ml coconut oil "suppository" to be HIGHLY effective ;-). I then apply a light amount of lube directly to the aneros. I use an oral syringe for the non-glycerine lube, or a finger for the coconut suppository. This may all be "slippery" overkill, but it's fun, AND feels good... :D

    One word of warning- a homemade 10 ml coconut oil suppository kept in the refrigerator has it's own pleasures, (that brief shock of cold, and feeling it melt "up there", etc.), but it is a LOT of oil, and leaking is inevitable... this can be fun cuz it's really slippery, but give a thought to bedding, undergarments, etc... :wink: I have had no issues with leakage with any volume of non-glycerine lube, or with the 2.5 to 5 ml coconut oil. Ain't experimenting fun ;-)?
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Well on the recommendation here, I decided to go splurge on some coconut oil. I got the Expeller Pressed Virgin stuff. I got to tell you, it turned out being kind of messy. The great thing here is that it made some great pan fried potatoes. The one thing I will say is that I would not be cooking with Vaseline.
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    Buster said:

    I got to tell you, it turned out being kind of messy. The great thing here is that it made some great pan fried potato's. The one thing I will say is that I would not be cooking with Vaseline.



    That's kinda funny... ;-). I'm assuming you ate the fried potatoes, as opposed to applying them at the "other" end :shock: ? Anyway, the only mess I had was if I used a little too much coconut oil, and got "leakage". The stuff I have is from the Asian section of the market, and is solid at room temp. I put a spoonful in a small paper cup, and hold that in a bowl of hot water until the oil melts. I took an old chap stick tube, and removed the screw mechanism, poured the liquid oil into the bottom opening of the chap stick tube while the cap is on, aiming for about 1/2 a tube's worth, (a full tube was too much). Refrigerate until solid, (usually just a few minutes), and then push the resulting plug out with whatever works, (chop stick, pencil, etc.). You can't handle the plug for any length of time before it starts to melt, but a quick push with a finger in the right direction should have a "melt in your butt, not in your hands" result :D

    This may all sound complicated and time consuming, but it just takes a minute or 2, and the clean up is simple... a spoon, the chap stick tube, and the water bowl. I'm a very tactile oriented person, and the commercial lubes are decent, but there's something about the way the coconut oil feels that makes it much more enjoyable for me. At least you tried it though, and as I've mentioned, experimenting is part of the fun... ;-).

    btw- I like pan fried potatoes... I use olive oil, (NO Vaseline... :shock: ) and add a little onion, garlic, paprika, salt, pepper and tarragon... :lol:
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hey Big Guy,

    That does sound like a great way to use it. I was wondering how quick it would melt if you threw it in the freezer in an ice cube tray or something.

    I got some of that Marksman lube from Aneros and I measure out what the "recommended" dosage was in them and it measured out to 1 teaspoon. I thought that was interesting because when I have used those applicators in the past I have gone for up to 2 teaspoons of lube. Just another economical message brought to you by the great people at Aneros.

    You should try some rosemary on those spuds. I was out of onion but the coconut flavor was good in them. And yes, I ate them!
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    i am making progress in my coconut oil explorations.

    i got two jars, both by Spectrum:
    - Organic Virgin unrefined
    - Organic refined

    for the purposes at hand, erotic not culinary, i like the refined much better because it doesn't smell like coconut. if i lived alone, unrefined would be ok, but, i can't go around exuding coconut scent every time i've had a little private time. that would be embarrassing. i will say the unrefined smells divine, and would undoubtedly be spectacular in food, as reported by buster.

    so far i have only gotten a chance to test the coconut oil (refined) in a traditional hand and wiener setting. it performed very well, approximately like the famous and ever trusty albolene. it is a little thinner (no parafin), and melts alluringly almost instantly at hand temperature. it is very slippery, natural feeling and lasts.

    the next challenge is you know what, with the big issue being how to inject. i got the latex free syringe from walgreens, and will also test a large medicine dropper.

    big guy, the quick melt in a spoon w/ hot water is a good tip.

    i also have a vision of using a lighter. it would be particularly evocative and hilarious to be melting white stuff in a spoon and sucking it into a syringe, to inject into my body for an endorphins high... new age junk and works! (making the term ass-crack even more applicable).

    i'll keep y'all posted.

    darwin
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    Buster said:


    That does sound like a great way to use it. I was wondering how quick it would melt if you threw it in the freezer in an ice cube tray or something.

    I got some of that Marksman lube from Aneros and I measure out what the "recommended" dosage was in them and it measured out to 1 teaspoon. I thought that was interesting because when I have used those applicators in the past I have gone for up to 2 teaspoons of lube. Just another economical message brought to you by the great people at Aneros.

    You should try some rosemary on those spuds. I was out of onion but the coconut flavor was good in them. And yes, I ate them!



    The freezer is a pretty cool idea... (heh... "cool"... ;-)), but I think someone else in a "lube" thread mentioned that oil "cubes" were a little "pointy" to start out with. The frozen oil holds up better while being handled before insertion, and gives more of a "cold shock" on insertion, (which actually feels good... ;-)). It melts very quickly there after. The only other drawback is the extra waiting time for the oil to reach freezer temps 8) .

    When it comes to standard lubes, I also like the larger amounts, (up to 2 teaspoons, (10 ml)), injected with an oral syringe, and then a little lube on the aneros itself, as well. However, the oil behaves so much differently, that for me, anyway, "more" is not always better. Anything over 1 1/2 teaspoons of the oil internally tends to leak back out, and it doesn't clean up as easily as the water soluble lubes do.

    btw... rosemary is indeed tasty with the potatoes... another tasty variation is a little cumin seed, (whole, or ground), with crushed red pepper flakes to taste... :D
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    darwin said:

    i am making progress in my coconut oil explorations.

    i got two jars, both by Spectrum:
    - Organic Virgin unrefined
    - Organic refined

    for the purposes at hand, erotic not culinary, i like the refined much better because it doesn't smell like coconut. if i lived alone, unrefined would be ok, but, i can't go around exuding coconut scent every time i've had a little private time. that would be embarrassing. i will say the unrefined smells divine, and would undoubtedly be spectacular in food, as reported by buster.

    big guy, the quick melt in a spoon w/ hot water is a good tip.

    i also have a vision of using a lighter. it would be particularly evocative and hilarious to be melting white stuff in a spoon and sucking it into a syringe, to inject into my body for an endorphins high... new age junk and works! (making the term ass-crack even more applicable).

    i'll keep y'all posted.

    darwin



    Hey darwin,

    Yeah, I use the refined form for the same reasons... it would be way too hard explaining why I and the whole house have taken on an exotic tropical fragrance... ;-). I don't do a lot of sun bathing, so the old "it's only suntan lotion" ploy wouldn't work :D.

    I have yet to try the liquid oil in the syringe- let me know how that works for you. I also have the oral syringe from Walgreens, but have been using it exclusively for commercial lubes.

    Ass-crack... heh... :lol:
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    got a chance to try it.

    i put a glop of oil into my left hand, where it melted, and, with a few false starts, was able to suck it up into the syringe using only my right hand.

    a downside to the walgreens latex-free syringe is that it is kind of fat, about like the eupho. it takes a cooperative butt to get it in comfortably. it needs to go in past the internal sphincter to deliver the goods. one thing you don't want is to tear or annoy your anus during the procedure, as that will definitely detract from your session.

    i injected 3mm of liquefied coco oil.

    the session was pretty good!

    but... after a half hour, when i was done, i removed the peridise (largest), and was sad to see that it felt dry, not slippery.

    so i consider that run of coconut a partial failure.

    i will try more lube next time, to see if that corrects the problem.

    darwin
  • Darwin,

    I do consider the lack of "sticking power", as you have noted, to be a bit of a liability with the coconut oil. I have noted this as well and find that going beyond an hour is somewhat uncomfortable.

    I am curious what compelling reason folks have for not liking good old Crisco as an adjunct or a primary lubricant. It is a processed product, and like coconut oil totally edible. It does "stick" better than coconut oil, and as far as I know is broken down nearly as easily in the body as the coconut oil.
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,254
    The Lone Rider,

    The current formula for “Crisco” shortening is : soybean oil, sunflower oil, fully hydrogenated palm oil, mono- and diglycerides, TBHQ and citric acid. Hydrogenated oils are trans fats that alter the body’s metabolizing of cholesterol, (lowering HDL and raising LDL levels). The older formula had very high levels of trans fats. While the current formula has lowered the trans fat level to less than 0.5g per serving (1 tblsp.), it is still present. At this level it probably poses only a minor health risk as a food source but it is unknown what effects its absorption through the rectum might be.
    Additionally, Zaneblue has reported the negative effects of soy products on her "Orgasmic Diet", see - http://aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2658 . These are probably only minor concerns for healthy individuals but you must use your own good judgment regarding what you put into your body.
  • rumel,

    Thanks for sharing the link.

    I can see where the ingredients in Crisco might present some issues. Perhaps a "Crisco-like" solution may be in order. There is a product called Spectrum Organic All Vegetable Shortening. It consists of full non-hydrogenated mechanically pressed palm oil. It has zero trans fat, and is cholesterol free.

    The consistency is very similar to Crisco, and it is relatively cost effective relative to Crisco.
  • Badger
    Posts: 647
    The coconut oil suppositories got me to thinking, what about coconut oil softgels? I did a quick search, and discovered 1000mg softgels at Vitamin World: http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?xs=139B733E9624480EA9D0F47E267FC983&PID=1697&CID=&CPID=2914. You can even buy 4000mg softgels at GNC: http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2134124&cp=&sr=1&origkw=coconut+oil&kw=coconut+oil&parentPage=search. Would these work, or is the softgel a problem?
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,254
    Badger,

    Using the coconut oil softgel as a suppository may have the advantage of ease of use and being a rather benign oil but I question its value as a lubricant as you will have to wait for the softgel envelope to dissolve before it can release the oil into the rectum to actually function as a lubricant. The gelatin capsule was designed to be thick enough to readily dissolve in the high acidity, high moisture environment of the stomach. I have no idea how long it would take to dissolve in the dryer and lower acidic environment of the rectum. I tend to be rather impatient, waiting 15-20-? minutes before I can start to enjoy myself would be a real turn-off. I find it takes less than a minute to slather natural jelly on my little toy and gently insert it to get me going quite nicely. Cleanup is pretty easy because the jelly doesn't tend to migrate everywhere, a simple wipe with toilet paper and you're good to get back to the rest of your day with an anus that feels like it got a chapstick massage, soft and supple.
  • Big Guy
    Posts: 22
    Badger said:

    Would these work, or is the softgel a problem?



    I'm no expert, but I think the gel capsule itself has to be digested to get access to the oil... in other words I'm not sure if the capsule would just dissolve in your rectum, or even if it did dissolve, how long it would take to do so. Maybe you could buy some, and try dropping one in a glass of body temp water and see what happens?

    Heh... I think Aneros should build a lab somewhere, and staff it with a cadre of Mad Butt-lube Scientists, all working on developing the perfect natural lubricant for the perfect Aneros session... ;-)


    Mwuh hahahahahaha!

    (Mad Butt-lube Scientist laugh)
  • Virg
    Posts: 154
    Big Guy...If we could just be ssooo lucky!
  • I recently tried and session with Spectrum Organic All Vegetable Shortening and was surprising disappointed with the results. Even though the texture is very similar to Crisco, it is fluffier, and appears to not stick as well to the surface. It just felt like the coconut oil did a better job, even though there was visibly less remaining on the surface after use.
  • skeeter_gskeeter_g
    Posts: 240
    Hi All,
    We have been doing some experimenting over on this discussion topic.

    http://www.aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2838

    It may be something worth trying. I have added some coconut oil and shea butter (All natural)
    together with much success.
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    here is the latest update on my experimentation w/ coconut oil...

    i went up to 5cc injected.

    seems to work fine, at least for the 3/4 hour peridise sessions i have been able to squeeze in.

    an important indicator of the effectiveness of the lube, to me, is if i pull the unit out and change models, say, at the 1/2 hour mark, if the new one slides right in. and, yep, that happened.

    coconut oil (refined) seems to turn liquid somewhere near 76 degrees, which is convenient for getting it into the syringe.

    so, at this point, i am assuming this will be my lube going forward, and feel reasonably confident in recommending it to those who are wary of the water based lubes.

    one thing to note: with the water based lubes, they seemed to disappear inside me (ie, get absorbed eventually). with the coconut oil (5cc) sometime later i'll have a mini-poop in which it seems to come out. i consider that a good thing, as the absorption of the water based lubes is what makes me want to avoid it.

    darwin
  • I have the same feeling about the water based lubes staying inside. I am more comfortable with the coconut oil leaving the system.

    I have also instinctively switched to different models within a give coconut session. It seems like I am getting longer session using that method.
  • Mindgasm
    Posts: 31
    I've been having good success with the coconut oil as well, although I measure out about 3-4cc and then put it in the refrigerator. As it solidifies I mold it into a ball and let completely firm up. Insertion into the anus then melts it and coats the inside just fine.

    When I'm done I usually take the syringe I have and fill it up with 10cc of water, inject that then repeat once more. I sort of swirl it around so to speak then evacuate on the toilet. A lot of the oil comes out that way.
  • Mindgasm

    The little ball idea sounds pretty good. The coconut oil in the form of an icecube can be a bit jagged at times, even though it begins to melt on contact. :lol:
  • Mindgasm
    Posts: 31
    Yeah, it's not too bad. I usually form it together at room temperature, and it slowly starts melting in my fingers, so that sort of smooths it out. Then let sit in the fridge for about 15 minutes or more and it is quite solid. It does start melting as you grab it and insert it, but that is a good thing. Sometimes a little extra lube down there already helps insertion if you are extra sensitive.
  • slappy
    Posts: 7
    Darwin

    Hi I am vary new to this, although I have had the SGX and MGX for about two years, with very limited success. However this morning, have read about cocconut oil, I looked for some in the kitchen, found none, but decided to try olive oil. Extra virgine of coarse. I inserted 10mls and started on my side, then onto back with knees bent, then over onto front. This is when it started. I tried to relax and let it take me over instead of tensing up. It worked better than ever before. Not the super O, or even an O, but very nice for about 20 mins.
    I know this works, although it hasnt happened for me yet, but I will keep trying. I am off on a course for two weeks soon, and plan to take my Aneros and try every night. Sleep with it in and see what happens.
    Must try that coccont oil.

    Regards,,,,,,,Slappy :)
  • Virg
    Posts: 154
    Slappy

    That is a lot of oil, especially for the SGX or MGX (smaller units need less oil unlike the Progasm).

    Try for 4 or 5 mls, maybe even less...

    Olive oil is thicker and too much may impede the contact/pressure of the Aneros.

    Besides, it is a high concentration to be in an area that absorbs fluids into the bloodstream...

    just two cents...

    Virg
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    This coconut oil thread seems to have a life of its own!

    I stumbled across a cigar tube this week. I got to thinkin' which is generally dangerous. I melted some of my virgin/unrefined coconut oil and filled up the tube a bit (I did not measure) and I closed up the tube and put it in the fridge. After about 15 minutes, I put it in the freezer for about 5. It was pretty solid. I then warmed the tube in my hands until the oil came out in a piece. I was able to insert that bad boy right on in without any fuss. I left a piece in the tube so I got that out and with the rounded end was able to fire that right on in as well. The rounded part was what I had in mind for an easy insert, but I did alright without it. I am sure I was WAY over on the amount of oil, but what the heck. I had a pretty decent session with it. I went from the smaller Peridise to the Maximus then back to the larger Peridise. A triple header!
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    I just Googled "suppository mold" and found these:

    http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/2,318.html

    Disposable molds come in 1.3cc to 2.4cc in 100 count packs for $8.00, just the job for making coconut oil suppositories to keep in the freezer. Just warm up the oil and fill a few molds using a syringe and pop 'em in the freezer.

    I'm going to order some ...
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    So I looked at getting a syringe to fill the molds and found these:

    http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

    At 100 for $10.85 I could just use one of those to give myself up to 3cc of liquid coconut oil and then chuck it away.
  • pmagr
    Posts: 6
    This may sound a bit silly but I have been using a mellon baller to form a prefectly round suppository. I use the thumb sized end and just scrape the solid state oil to form the ball, pop it out & put it in the freezer. Way to simple but very effective.
  • GrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    Hello Pmagr, that's not silly at all; it's brilliant! Thanks. Must try ...
  • fllurker
    Posts: 36
    I have thought about using a 2oz. tear drop fishing weight mold. that way u could make a few at a time and cut off the little end and use that end as the insertion end as it would taper. may have to get me a mold.
  • Julie
    Posts: 5
    Since it's a bit pricey, I have a question before purchasing (which will probably illustrate my complete ignorance of how the body works):

    As a veggie/pretty much vegan, I don't eat much saturated fat, so that whenever I do (fried foods, etc.) I get ill. Does this mean using coconut oil as lube might make me queasy when it's absorbed into the bloodstream? It seems like bypassing the stomach would solve that problem, but I just thought I'd check and see if anyone has had an issue with the sat fats.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    Julie,

    While it is hard to know precisely how much of an oil like this would be absorbed, it should be noted that many of the physical effects that people associate with fried foods have a great deal more to do with the chemical changes that take place when one heats an oil to high temperature. Furthermore, if you are consuming deep fried foods, know that the oil is heated and re-heated often many times. In addition while certain vegetable oils have a resistance to going rancid, exposure to high temperatures can change that rapidly.

    That said, coconut oil is certainly not the only lubricant out there. (This thread developed out of the desire of some who were looking for an alternative) Check out the WIKI in the Getting Started section under Lubrication for more information on personal lubrication.

    BF Mayfield
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195

    So I looked at getting a syringe to fill the molds and found these:

    http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

    At 100 for $10.85 I could just use one of those to give myself up to 3cc of liquid coconut oil and then chuck it away.



    this seems like a great deal!

    (1) cheap!!!
    (2) latex free, so, if you don't want to chuck em away, they won't be destroyed by oil based lube. ie, even a few at this price would be great.
    (3) much skinnier than the other latex-free syringe discovered (walgreens), so will be much friendlier to insert.
    (4) looks like the nose might be the same size ast the syringe sold by aneros, which means it might be compatible with the nozzle they supply for even friendlier insertion.

    GT, have you ordered these?

    darwin