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1st steps : can't keep involuntaries as pleasure comes...
  • Damon
    Posts: 4
    (sorry for the title, not enough characters)

    Hi all,

    Having always been *anally sensitive*, I discovered the Aneros a few weeks ago with the MGX, but didn't get much pleasure from it, as it seemed that I coulndn't place it properly (even when strictly following the different guides).

    Anyway I tried with another model, the Helix, and since then it's been a very different experience.

    On the first session, after relaxing for a few minutes, I tried to contract my sphincter gently, as the FAQ says. After a few seconds, I began to feel heat in my face and chest, and my heartbeat increased. It felt really good, but the surprise of it and the feeling of losing control made me lose the momentum. I still managed to get involuntary contractions, but felt that it was time to stop, so be it.

    After a few other sessions, I have reached the following point : I still get this very nice feeling in my head, chest, arms and sometimes stomach ; I try to focus on these feelings and on my prostate, banning touching my sex ; but when the involuntary contractions begin, after a while I start to feel pain, as it seems the pressure is too high on my prostate and anus.

    I tried using more lube, going back to the MGX but none of these seem to work. My anus also feels sore afterwards (although I have no problems sticking it in and out) Maybe EVEN more lube ? Maybe am I doing something wrong ? How should you put the lube ? On the Aneros, directly with a seringe, or both ? How much ?

    Note that after the sessions, I keep a nice feeling in my upper body and stomach for a couple of hours, like my body keeping a memory of theses feelings, which makes me think i'm on the right way and quite close to it.

    Thanks for any advice !

    Damon
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi Damon,

    The only reason I can think of for this kind of pain, is that you are contracting you PC muscles too hard???

    So, I would try some relaxation and deep even breaths for 10 minutes before any contractions . . .

    Then I would double-up on pre-lube and lube on the Aneros itself. (What kind of lubes are you using?)

    Basically, IMHO I would say relax, breath and lots of lube! (Oh, and enjoy yourself and if anything hurts, stop for a while...)

    Hope this helps,

    Hlaser99
  • Damon
    Posts: 4
    Thanks hlaser for your advice !

    I tried to use more lube, and think am getting closer and closer to the point. Smaller contractions also helped avoiding pain.

    Last time I began to feel disoriented, like in a spinning wheel ; then, after a while, this feeling was replaced by a starting point of pleasure in my prostate, only I haven't been able to reach the climax point. But I thinkw this was the beginning of s super-o, wasn't it ?
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Damon said:

    Thanks hlaser for your advice !

    I tried to use more lube, and think am getting closer and closer to the point. Smaller contractions also helped avoiding pain.

    Last time I began to feel disoriented, like in a spinning wheel ; then, after a while, this feeling was replaced by a starting point of pleasure in my prostate, only I haven't been able to reach the climax point. But I thinkw this was the beginning of s super-o, wasn't it ?



    Hi Damon!

    Glad to hear that you are avoiding pain, by all means!

    I find that, if there is pain . . . there is no pleasure! So, you must eradicate ALL pain for sure! Also, if pain starts,
    like from the P-tab, I either quit for the day or do something to stop the pain . . .

    If I was to make a guess, I would say you are experiencing a Pleasure wave (P-Wave)??? They are very nice and can last for extended periods!
    (and these can lead to involuntary contractions, Mini-Os, etc.)

    Later, Hlaser99
  • Damon
    Posts: 4
    Hi and thanks ! Here are some news.

    In the following sessions, I couldn't prevent myself from contracting too hard, which is what induces pain.

    So I tried to get back to the MGX model which is more rounded. The issue, then, was that when the pleasure increases (the last time, I began to feel my eyes rolling upwards), I have trouble keeping the invoultary contractions... which is a shame because I was very close to something new.

    Notice that the involuntaries come very quickly, say 5 minutes ; I don't need to relax anymore, but maybe should I. (I'll try this next time)

    The good point is that with the MGX, even when contracting to the max, there is no pain ; the bad point is that I can find what I think is my sweet spot much easier with the Helix :D

    I'll keep on using the MGX for a while ; I tried with it first, didn't feel anything and got a Helix, which was efficient from the first time, and now that my body knows what to feel, it seems the MGX is working.

    Later !
  • skeeter_gskeeter_g
    Posts: 240
    Hi Damon,
    Welcome...
    It sounds like you have managed your pain and now pain free, and that is the most important of anything you will do with the Aneros!

    Remember that the harder you try to get there, the more you will not go over the top and meet your expectations.

    Enjoy all the feelings you have, and just let them happen. don"t be frightened of the extreme feelings you will start to feel, go with them, I dont know if you have any health issues that may be a reason for the hesitation, or loosing control you have mentioned, but you should be fine... you will embrace those feelings soon.
    Sounds like you are on your way!! :)
  • evil-zombieevil-zombie
    Posts: 172
    i've gotten to the super-o's ...with my progasm and better able to with my tail-less helix but i've never had these involuntaries where the aneros moves on its own...if i'm not doing contractions it doesn't move...how is this done...just wondering?
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hey Damon!

    I can tell you're getting on-track now! Once you get into your new groove, you will be well on your way to success!

    Good advice from Skeeter about relaxation and fear of the unknown!

    Also, from E-Z, concerning the "tail-less" aspect of the Helix . . . I have also rendered my Helix tail-less and find
    that it has a "different angle" of connecting with the prostate! (Feels better to me!)

    You may want to consider doing a tail Mod in the future for your Helix; it could make it usable
    again with a different angle and less "or no" pain???

    Enjoy your Journey!

    Later, hlaser99
  • Damon
    Posts: 4
    Hi all, long time no see...

    Thanks for your answers !

    Since last time, I've only used the MGX, finally feeling better with it, no pain, and it reaches my sweet spot more easily.

    Still no super-o, but I'm kind of patient so this is not frustrating at all. I guess the journey goes on...

    Had an amazing experience last night though... I was in bed trying to find sleep (as I've alwas had trouble falling asleep), and suddenly I began to feel like being in a rollercoaster, like the time when I reached a *plateau*. I began to contract my sphincter, and boom... involuntary contractions. As I obviously couldn't go to sleep then, I had a session in which I could reach mini-o's at will... Amazing ! It was enjoyable but also quite disturbing, as I couldn't control the rollercoaster sensation at all, even when not contracting.

    Has this ever happened to any of you ?

    e-z, you should try to make relaxation and breathing exercises, this is very important at the beginning.

    ++
  • BoPBoP
    Posts: 96
    Hey Damon, I can relate to the roller coaster feeling, makes your feel as if you spin for some time and then lay down and world seems to keep spinning at least so it seems, and your body has this feeling as well. I had it during my sessions and you are likely to find orgasms feeling similar but it would seem as if your body is floating in the water but much more intense. I had this experience in my beginning sessions.
  • JIH
    Posts: 70
    Evil. I have been lucky enough to feel the Aneros moving on its own only a couple of times. When it happened it was a very nice and pleasurable surprise. When it began I thought "well, how about that?" The "self-movement" of the Anerous seemed to start after a long period of involuntary contractions while trying to relax during the contractions. My take on it is a lot like how the Aneros is less noticeable after in has been in place for about 15 minutes following insertion - the "full" feeling just kind of vanishes if you know what I mean. Well, in regards to the "self-movement", the feeling of the contractions just kind of vanished even though they were still going on and all I could feel was the Anerous moving in and out - that's my perception of it all. Whatever causes it, it was very pleasurable. I want more - this is soooo addicting.