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KSMO - what is it?
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    1) Basically - what is KSMO? I know it stands for "Key Sound Multiple Orgasm," but other than some advertisements that really did not tell anything about what is it and how it works I could not find any good info. The ads state just basically what the benefits are, and how great John L. "Jack" Johnston is for discovering and teaching the discipline (such as this page: http://www.multiples.com/peak_experience.html). It appears from the outside to be a way for "Jack" to sell a bunch of audio tapes, kind of like motivational tapes and seminars that try to hook you in by telling you that the secret lies within the NEXT audio tape, not the one you just bought.

    The process teaches arousal amplification through a specific type of vocalization, breathing exercises, relaxation techniques and mental focus.



    2) Is the Key sound the same for everyone, or does each person have their own sound that triggers the orgasms?

    3) How difficult is it to incorporate in to your life? How difficult is it to make the vocalization? What is the success rate?

    4) What tape is best for beginners - and will that tape allow me to fully utilize KSMO, or will I be hooked in to always buying the next tape, etc.?
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785

    1) Basically - what is KSMO? I know it stands for "Key Sound Multiple Orgasm," but other than some advertisements that really did not tell anything about what is it and how it works I could not find any good info. The ads state just basically what the benefits are, and how great John L. "Jack" Johnston is for discovering and teaching the discipline (such as this page: http://www.multiples.com/peak_experience.html). It appears from the outside to be a way for "Jack" to sell a bunch of audio tapes, kind of like motivational tapes and seminars that try to hook you in by telling you that the secret lies within the NEXT audio tape, not the one you just bought.

    2) Is the Key sound the same for everyone, or does each person have their own sound that triggers the orgasms?

    3) How difficult is it to incorporate in to your life?

    4) What tape is best for beginners - and will that tape allow me to fully utilize KSMO, or will I be hooked in to always buying the next tape, etc.?



    Hi bonerowner !

    - Basically, the Key Sound is a "verbalizing" of a sound that Jack has found that awakens our own natural ability to have Multiple Male Orgasms (MMO's)

    - This is the "Real Deal" son! No gimmicks!

    - Other than the difference in one's own voice, the key sound is the "same" and one uses Jack's example as a model to learn to enunciate this sound for yourself.

    - It only takes 20 minute sessions twice a week to incorporate into your lifestyle!

    - CD One is the one you need and will allow you to be successful, although tape Two contains an actual 20 minute session to verbalize along with Jack on . . .
    and makes success both easier and faster! (I think CD One is still on Amazon.com for a little less$$$)

    Worked for me and broadened my sexual base of experience and understanding of Dry Orgasms and gave me a better handle on my sexuality!

    Ask Buster how his training is coming! (or Cuming???)

    Later, Hlaser99


    Check out the Forum at:

    http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlongerinbed/

    Also: the OrgasmWiki at:

    http://www.multiples.com/orgasmwiki/Main_Page
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    thanks for the info - I admit it sounds a bit unbelievable - which is why I am kind of skeptical, however I trust your endorsement and recommendation.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785

    thanks for the info - I admit it sounds a bit unbelievable - which is why I am kind of skeptical, however I trust your endorsement and recommendation.



    Hi again, bonerowner!

    I know what you mean!

    Even now it is hard to believe, that uttering a strange, guttural and primeval sound will actually
    put you into the O-Zone! Sounds like total bull???

    But ask Buster about his current experiences . . . his are fresh in his mind and my memories of
    early days with KSMO are a little less vivid! Hey Buster! Chime in here, Pal!

    Hlaser99
  • Also check out http://www.multiples.com/orgasmwiki/Glossary

    - With many thanks to Laly and to Artform!

    ...and a reminder to use the Google Site Search link in the Forum to search on Aneros and also Gold Nugget.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,474
    Many spontaneously make sounds during erotic arousal and orgasm. In the emerging science on neuroplasiticity, music is as key a flexible deeply wired/rewirable mental experience as erotic response and apparently deeply linked. Synaesthesia is the experience of one sensory phenomenon in the response form of another: seeing a note of music as a colour for example.

    KSMO works amazingly well, particularly as a trigger for erotic body energies. These energies can be triggered, amplified and transformed using the Key Sound, aloud or silently, once you and your body have learned the essence of the triggering mechanism.

    Like Hlaser, I have a proclivity for Chairgasms, and Cargasms, examples of the day after a session echo effects that KS can trigger.

    Yesterday, for example, in a drive to the Big City, I had wonderful strings of mini-Os, safely and without them being distractions, while driving. Between Aneros and KS, I am now "activated in the abdomen" almost all the time as an O-zone boost through life. Aesthetic and kinaesthetic (body motion, as while driving, walking as well as sex) experiences can and do directly trigger p-waves and mini-Os, amplifying daily life. At the right time, you can then call up any level of orgasmic response intentionally, at will: Super-Os or Calm Seas Floating Bliss of cosmogonic proportions.

    My Aneros and the KSMO Library of 4 CDs are by far the best investments of the last year!!!

    all the best to all

    artform
  • FYI re: bonerowner's comment about being skeptical.

    It is very natural to be skeptical about yet another method, with all of the snake oil that abounds on the web.

    That said, as we learn KSMO, we must address that cognitive challenge, as it gets in the way of progress in learning the method.

    I often say that the greater challenge in learning the method is not between the legs, it's between the ears.

    By that I am attempting some humor to lighten up the frame for dealing with - transcending - or trance-ending - the challenge that persistent skepticism during practice can introduce.

    (At a practical, marketing level, that's also why I don't place any time limit at all on my guarantee... to help take the time-limit or performance pressure off)

    I've also coined the phrase mind noise as a shorthand phrase for addressing this issue.

    There's considerable discussion of it in the KSMO forum.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hey Jack! (Jack Johnston, that is . . .)

    I see you're lurking again! LOL!

    But seriously folks!

    Thanks to You and Artform for the "back-up" . . .

    Your KSMO teachings really ARE "A Lifelong Skill" !!!

    Once learned, it becomes part of you . . .

    Take Care!

    Hlaser99
  • You're quite welcome Hlaser. Any time!

    Wishing you the best,
    HJ
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    wow - I didn't realize we had a celebrity in our midst :D
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hi bonerowner,

    I have been an enthusiastic follower of Jack Johnston's KSMO practice since last summer. What I can tell you is that it complimented my Aneros perfectly. My success with Aneros first of all opened me up to the possibilities of the Male Multiple Orgasm. I was having the same doubts as you before I jumped in. I was chatting with hlaser99 who's opinion I hold in high regard and he was telling me about it from his experience. As Jack mentioned in a previous post, it is easy to be hesitant of all these claims that you stumble across on the internet. You have been around the Aneros forum for a while and I would think that you feel pretty comfortable. I don't know of anyone who would lead you astray. We would sooner steer you away from something that has not been proven and many have done that before.

    I have gotten to know Jack who makes himself available to all. That is very rare! He is a kind man that just wants to share what he has learned with the world if possible. He has an area on the KSMO site that allows you to validate your Key Sound directly with him for free. That is because the way you make the sound is important. My computer is quite old and does not have a microphone so I validated my Key Sound with Jack over the phone. That is how serious he is about this.

    Alright, Mr. Artform did a pretty thorough description of what the Key Sound is, what it is about, etc. So I will jump in to tell you what it has done for me. I am just scratching the surface with this. The orgasms that start in my practice are more "body centered" than "prostate centered" as I have with the Aneros. I start with the 20 minute pre-recorded (CD #2 which I do suggest if you can) session. I am the type of person that needs to follow it rather than do it on my own. I tend to get distracted if I don't use it. Once the orgasms start, with KSMO I am able to feel as though the orgasms flow down my body in waves starting at my head and flowing down to my toes and back. Where I need to get is to be able to have this "flowing" continue for whatever period of time that I choose. I know, I can hear Jack saying "YOU CAN'T TRY, YOU HAVE TO LET IT HAPPEN!" The issue there for me is that I need to be better at relaxing and just go with the flow.

    The orgasms are different for me with KSMO than they are with Aneros. At the stage I am at now, the Aneros orgasms are more acute but the KSMO orgasms are broader in scope. I feel as though there is going to be a greater potential for me with KSMO because I rely on nothing other than making a sound. It is a hell of a lot cleaner as well! I have made a partial Key Sound before by accident and the tingling started right up. It is really something.

    Will success vary by person, you bet! It is the same philosophy as Aneros. If you go charging after it, you may as well count on it being a real challenge. You have to let it come to you. It sounds corny but after you have success with it, you should know what I am talking about.

    The community over at http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlongerinbed is much like here. It is very friendly and you will recognize some of the same people which is also comforting when you are unsure of something.

    I think that covers it. If you have any other questions, fire away! You should attend one of the online Training and Discussion chats that Jack hosts about every other week or so. The next one is on April 26. He has a couple so people on the other side of the globe can have a session at a good time for them. I am in hopes that they will establish that kind of chat here at Aneros.

    Take care everyone.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785

    wow - I didn't realize we had a celebrity in our midst :D



    bonerowner!

    Indeed, Jack is the most accessible celebrity I know!

    He's at every chat . . .

    Later, Hlaser99
  • Where? Where? !!! :)

    [This post was in reference to bonerowner's post of Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:04 pm]
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hey Buster!

    I hope ALL is well with you!

    Thanks for chiming-in and giving your special point-of-view on KSMO!

    Live Long & Prosper, Buster . . .

    Later, Hlaser99
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    just curious - is this the "introductory CD" you referred to at Amazon??:

    http://www.amazon.com/Male-Multiple-Orgasm-Step-Step/dp/1882899067
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785

    just curious - is this the "introductory CD" you referred to at Amazon??:

    http://www.amazon.com/Male-Multiple-Orgasm-Step-Step/dp/1882899067



    bonerowner!

    Yes it is . . .

    Good Luck!

    Hlaser99
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    Cool - is that one cd or more than one? I have read about a 4 cd set and was wondering if this is it.
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785

    Cool - is that one cd or more than one? I have read about a 4 cd set and was wondering if this is it.



    Sorry bonerowner!

    Just the one introductory CD!

    Hlaser99
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Bonerowner!

    >Basically - what is KSMO?<<br />
    I'm 77. When I took up with Jack's KSMO a few years ago my libido was practically non-existent. I didn't fret too much about that because I regarded it as being entirely natural and an inevitable penalty for not deciding to shoot myself at an earlier age. - But I was wrong......

    The KSMO has been the sole means by which I'm now able to access, at practically any time of my choosing, the most extreme and wildly erotic orgasmic sensations in hours-long sessions of multiples. If there was a way of measuring orgasmic sensation I feel sure that my KSMO multiples, being miles and miles better than than anything I've experienced before in any other practice, would drive it off it's scale. That's what the KSMO has done for me.

    The KSMO is certainly not just another money-making gimmick - it's another world!

    But I'm also an enthusiastic Aneros user. My Aneros practice pre-dates my introduction to the KSMO and although I could achieve many amazing Super-Os it was not until I became proficient in the KSMO that my Aneros sessions were brought into a new realm of experience.

    >How difficult is it to incorporate in to your life?<<br />
    Although the key sound was what opened the door for me I now very rarely use it - I don't need to. Simply lying quietly, relaxed and alone is all I need to start the orgasmic sensations rolling.

    The Key Sound is able to awaken the body's natural propensity to generate infinite orgasmic sensation without recourse to any devices, scenarios, chemical substances, or unnatural procedures. IMHO the secret of the KSMO is that it allows your body and mind alone do the work for you - in that way it can drive you up to the highest possible levels of sensation.

    >How difficult is it to make the vocalization?<<br />
    I never had difficulty with the KS but it seems that it can require a bit of dedicated practice to master. But once having learned how to do it, it seems so natural and easy.

    >What is the success rate?<<br />
    It would be interesting to know just what the drop-out rate is for the KSMO, also for the Aneros. Whether Jack or the Aneros management would be prepared to disclose return rates I wonder. But even that would only be part of the answer.

    >What tape is best for beginners - and will that tape allow me to fully utilize KSMO, or will I be hooked in to always buying the next tape, etc.?<<br />
    Like some vendors we know!? - I've never had the slightest suspicion that Jack operates in that way. I've only bought the introductory CD that was extant a few years ago.

    I think if you get anywhere near what I've gained from the KSMO you won't regret your outlay.

    Good luck,

    Mog
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hello Mog!

    I hope you are well!

    Beautifully said, as always!

    You truly give myself and others hope for the future, with your stories and visualizations of things to come!
    (Sometimes the hope of reaching the heights that you have are more than enough to keep me on my path
    and to explore new paths, as well!)

    On a KSMO chat one time, Jack referred to you as "Grand Master Mog" . . . it blew my mind!

    Thanks Mog and may you live long and well!

    Hlaser99
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hlaser buddy,

    >I hope you are well!<<br />
    Fine thanks! And still being hustled along by the KSMO to even greater sensations.

    >Beautifully said, as always!<<br />
    I think I've told you before: - flattery will get you everywhere!

    >On a KSMO chat one time, Jack referred to you as "Grand Master Mog" . . . it blew my mind!<<br />
    Hydraulic can be a cheeky young devil!

    >Thanks Mog and may you live long and well!<<br />
    Thanks for that nice thought - I'm doing my darndest!

    Mog
  • ffd71
    Posts: 93
    mog said:

    Hi Bonerowner!

    >Basically - what is KSMO?<<br />
    I'm 77. When I took up with Jack's KSMO a few years ago my libido was practically non-existent. I didn't fret too much about that because I regarded it as being entirely natural and an inevitable penalty for not deciding to shoot myself at an earlier age. - But I was wrong......

    The KSMO has been the sole means by which I'm now able to access, at practically any time of my choosing, the most extreme and wildly erotic orgasmic sensations in hours-long sessions of multiples. If there was a way of measuring orgasmic sensation I feel sure that my KSMO multiples, being miles and miles better than than anything I've experienced before in any other practice, would drive it off it's scale. That's what the KSMO has done for me.

    The KSMO is certainly not just another money-making gimmick - it's another world!

    But I'm also an enthusiastic Aneros user. My Aneros practice pre-dates my introduction to the KSMO and although I could achieve many amazing Super-Os it was not until I became proficient in the KSMO that my Aneros sessions were brought into a new realm of experience.

    >How difficult is it to incorporate in to your life?<<br />
    Although the key sound was what opened the door for me I now very rarely use it - I don't need to. Simply lying quietly, relaxed and alone is all I need to start the orgasmic sensations rolling.

    The Key Sound is able to awaken the body's natural propensity to generate infinite orgasmic sensation without recourse to any devices, scenarios, chemical substances, or unnatural procedures. IMHO the secret of the KSMO is that it allows your body and mind alone do the work for you - in that way it can drive you up to the highest possible levels of sensation.

    >How difficult is it to make the vocalization?<<br />
    I never had difficulty with the KS but it seems that it can require a bit of dedicated practice to master. But once having learned how to do it, it seems so natural and easy.

    >What is the success rate?<<br />
    It would be interesting to know just what the drop-out rate is for the KSMO, also for the Aneros. Whether Jack or the Aneros management would be prepared to disclose return rates I wonder. But even that would only be part of the answer.

    >What tape is best for beginners - and will that tape allow me to fully utilize KSMO, or will I be hooked in to always buying the next tape, etc.?<<br />
    Like some vendors we know!? - I've never had the slightest suspicion that Jack operates in that way. I've only bought the introductory CD that was extant a few years ago.

    I think if you get anywhere near what I've gained from the KSMO you won't regret your outlay.

    Good luck,

    Mog



    What is KSMO and what is this "key sound" thing that you all talk about?

    I am not familar with this, but curious. I did look at the website "multiples" but it didn't tell me what this actually is. I even looked at the glossary here and still don't understand? Any help?
  • bonerownerbonerowner
    Posts: 121
    ffd71 said:

    \What is KSMO and what is this "key sound" thing that you all talk about?

    I am not familar with this, but curious. I did look at the website "multiples" but it didn't tell me what this actually is. I even looked at the glossary here and still don't understand? Any help?



    KSMO - Key Sound Multiple Orgasm

    Since other folks were kind enough to answer my questions in this thread, I will quote from hlaser99:

    hlaser99 said:

    Basically, the Key Sound is a "verbalizing" of a sound that Jack has found that awakens our own natural ability to have Multiple Male Orgasms (MMO's)



    I have not tried it yet, but am interested in giving it a try, since it seems to come highly recommended by trustworthy and reliabel folks here on this forum.
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi ffd71!

    >What is KSMO and what is this "key sound" thing that you all talk about?<<br />
    Er - Yes - I get your point! I've been saying what it can do, but not what it precisely is!

    The actual Key Sound consists of a gentle unforced utterance made in the throat.

    Done correctly it can have the effect of stimulating the prostate and the other vital bits down in the perineum area thus exciting feelings of erotic arousal. Repetition of the KS in an unhurried and unforced way can "automatically" amplify the arousal level to the point of irresistible orgasm.

    The essence of this procedure is that full orgasm, eventually over much or all of the body, can result without any ejaculation. This means that there is no refractory period and therefore the orgasms can be repeated in a series for as long as you want.

    KS orgasms are by no means second rate or in any sense "not the real thing". In fact they can be vastly more erotic, extreme and shattering than conventional ejaculative ones (and last for SSSSOOOO much longer!)

    If you have any more questions please ask.

    Mog
  • TipherethTiphereth
    Posts: 146
    Hey guys..Jack and all. I bought the Key Sound Program thing about 5 months ago just a few months after the Progasm. I can't say I have had anyluck with it though 8)
    I recall the first time trying the key sound in a non aneros session that I was amazed
    and got realy hard and almost thought I was gonna erupt.
    That one time is the only time I have ever felt anything from the KSMO prog however.
    I admit I did not practise it for much more than 2 weeks but absolutelynada after that.
    Could there have been something interefering?
    I mean I know you guys are not liars on here and I can certanly vouch for the massagers.
    I was also confused with the web thing... like it was too much for me at the time and my stress levels been hard to maintain.
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Hi Tiphereth,

    My assumption with not having luck with it would have to do not giving it enough time. Sounds as though your first session would have illustrated that there is potential of something pretty powerful.

    like it was too much for me at the time and my stress levels been hard to maintain.



    If I understand this comment correctly, you thought that you were too stressed at the time and that contributed to it not being effective for you? I have had some KSMO sessions that were complete duds. As I have with Aneros, I guess. I try to use those dud sessions to my advantage by turning them into meditation-like sessions. I think it is good to slow yourself down from time to time.

    Seriously though, you should try working some KSMO back into your schedule and give it another try.
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    Hi Tiphereth,

    Sorry to hear of your disappointment.

    >That one time is the only time I have ever felt anything from the KSMO prog however.<<br />
    Like you, if I understand correctly, I was already using versions of the Aneros before I took up the KSMO so I started with the latter having already had the benefit of some initial MMO re-wiring. I had immediate success with the KSMO and have progressed from there, benefiting from the huge boost that the KSMO has given to my Aneros adventures (although the KSMO is now my primary MMO practice). So I'm surprised that you seem to have drawn a blank after achieving such a promising start.

    >Could there have been something interfering?<<br />
    Mixing different practices too closely? - KSMO-only days are crucial in the learning phase.

    Anxiety to succeed in your objective? - Trying to jolly things along seriously interferes with training.

    >... like it was too much for me at the time and my stress levels been hard to maintain.<<br />
    Difficulty in achieving a totally relaxed and carefree approach?- Mind noise can be a killer.

    Lack of dedicated private time for practice?

    If you seriously want to get the benefits that a KSMO-based MMO capability can endow generally, you might think about posting on the KSMO forum and also taking advantage of Jack's free personal Key Sound coaching service.

    Like Buster says, I reckon you should give your KSMO another opportunity to prove itself. If you do I hope you get better luck.

    Mog
  • Hi Everyone,

    There is a poll in the chat center forum. If there is enough interest, we will set up a KSMO specific chat event. Please respond to the poll if you are interested in partcipating.

    thanks!
    Aneros Support