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E-stim and Zen
  • marmot
    Posts: 80
    Over the past 6 months, beginning with my Helix and later with KSMO, I've developed the ability to have orgasms any time I want by passively focusing my attention on my prostate area and allowing an orgasm to happen. Of all the fruits in my garden of sexual pleasures, I enjoy this the most because it is a pure and simple mental act which I can do virtually any time I want. I call it Zen orgasms.

    Like most men, a part of me is always searching for the cosmic orgasm. Recently on X-Tube I became aware of sexual electro-stimulation (e-stimming). This is the passage of small amounts of electricity through the genitals often resulting in very pleasant sensations, orgasms and ejaculation. Interestingly their forum looks a lot like this one with many people asking about how to get an HFO (hands free orgasm). I have not tried it yet because I have a concern.

    Brian once responded to a question about using a vibrator with the Aneros as being like using a chain saw to cut butter, and in that sense I see e-stimming as just about the opposite of Zen orgasms.

    I know there are people on this site who do e-stimming, and most of their posts have involved doing it in conjunction with the Aneros. I also know there are people here who can have Zen orgasms. Here is my question: If there is someone who can both have Zen orgasms and also does e-stimming (with or without the Aneros), does e-stimming (except right afterwards when there may be numbness) take away any of the ability to do Zen orgasms?

    We often talk about how attaining little and big O's is a matter of re-wiring. I just wouldn't want to lose that. Your comments will be helpful and appreciated.

    Marmot
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    marmot-

    the e-stim i have done is the SlightestTouch.

    no, i haven't experienced it as interfering.

    i haven't used it in a while, out of laziness (compared to just sitting in my recliner au natural). i should fire it up again to see how it interacts w/ my ever increasing "zen orgasm" abilities. i would be curious if it would add even more punch to my sensations.

    darwin
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hi marmot!

    I tried e-stim a couple of years back for several months . . .

    I was curious, to say the least, after reading the posts on a very popular site and watching ALL the male and female videos of e-stimmers having massive orgasms with electrodes attached to their genitals!

    I ordered the most popular e-stim unit and some of the multitude of gizmo's and gadgets that attach to your penis and balls, etc. (Set me back almost $700 for what seemed to be a decent starter selection???) Wanted to try the best...

    Long story short . . . Having pre-recorded programs of electrical currents running thru my genitals, just wasn't my "cup of tea"! For me, I much prefer a natural means of stimulation and without a bunch of electrodes and connections to worry about!

    There is also the added thrill of reaching over and changing programs, only to find this particular program is created at a higher power than the previous one! (Nothing like screaming in pain, as your cock and balls are being electrocuted!!! - (Now reminds me of torture methods used by some covert organizations in private! LOL or not!)

    With e-stim, there is a fine line between pleasure and pain! A reason that S&M practitioners are big users of e-stim, using it in their sessions frequently! There are sites for selling S&M equipment and along with whips and leather products are e-stim products, as well . . .

    I had the slightest touch as well, but this device is a much gentler and kinder method with a much different agenda, on the neural net! (S.T. is fine!)

    E-stim wasn't for me and was an expensive lesson!

    Hope this helps you with your decision...

    Hlaser99
  • marmot
    Posts: 80
    Hlaser99,

    Your information is very helpful. It's too bad there isn't some way to "test drive" these expensive items before buying them. I gather from the e-stim forum that there is quite a learning curve before one is proficient, and some are like you - it just doesn't work for them.

    I'm still ambivalent. A big part of me wants to stay natural, and I don't want to have a big investment end up in the back of the closet. Yet that other part of me looking for the cosmic orgasm - well, you know how that goes!

    I hope you were able to sell your unit and get back some of your investment.

    Marmot
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,195
    marmot-

    i should add that the StightestTouch is not like the e-stim devices hlaser is describing. it is far subtler and far superior. think of it as a p-wave generator. i recommend using it on a very low setting. you won't even know you have it on, except that if you pay attention you feel arousal and pleasure wafting around your crotch. unlike the other e-stim devices, it is not likely to push you to orgasm without any effort on your part. but, we aneros and mmo guys know exactly what to do with p-waves, and how to grow them. so for us it is perfect.

    darwin
  • TripperTripper
    Posts: 250
    Marmot,

    Not sure what forum you visited but www.smartstim.com is an interesting web site. On that forum, there is a section and instructions on building your own e-stim unit for <$40. You need cursory electronics knowledge (soldering, resistor placement, etc) to build a unit which is derived from a small powered PC speaker found in most electronics stores. <br />
    And, the threads support that approach as well as other purchased units (including the unit hlaser and darwin mentioned).

    Also, the forum has many developed "mp3s" that drive the unit dependent on objective and personal preference. Instead of PC speakers and an audio signal, the electrical non audio signal is used to e-stim.

    Both purchased and home built units can drive a combination of sexual locations on the body excluding anything above the waist (risk of heart interaction). Some on the forum even put electrical connections on an Aneros probe for prostate contact as well as two other interesting points of contact at the same time.

    One of the Japanese thread posters described the unit power level providing feelings going from a tickle level to pleasure and finally pain.

    I tried it for a few weeks out of interest but my feelings ranged from annoying up thru pain while missing any train stop at the pleasure level.

    But, many swear by it. I will sell you my unit, hlaser will sell you his unit, but Darwin needs his for further experimentation!

    Don't forget to enjoy yourself,

    Tripper
  • hlaser99hlaser99
    Posts: 785
    Hey Guys!

    E-stim is indeed an interesting subject!

    I love Datwin's description of the Slightest touch: "P-wave generator" . . .

    E-stim and Slightest Touch ARE totally different animals, by the way!

    Oh, and I did sell the equipment quite easily on Smartstim.com! (could have sold a gross of them quite quickly, I think!) LOL!

    Later, Hlaser99