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Heart arrhythmia
  • crocuscrocus
    Posts: 5
    Has anyone experienced problems with arrhythmia when using the aneros?

    I use several of the aneros models but the one for me that has the furthest 'reach' massaging the seminal vesicles as well as the prostate (the PS new or 'Classic' massager) while producing the most intense feelings also triggers extrasystoles when approaching orgasm. None of the other aneros models cause this reaction.

    I did some research and it seems to be down to hyperstimulation of the vagus nerve - a nerve that is closely associated with regulating heartbeat and also with controlling digestive activity. It is also a nerve that stretches well down the alimentary canal terminating in the region around the base of the spine close to internal reproductive organs.

    I'd be interested to know if anyone else has experienced this or researched the phenomenon.
  • Hello Crocus, I've never experienced anything like this, nor heard of it. I would be extremely cautious if I were you. Definitely something I would seek professional advice about before letting it happen again. From an engineer’s perspective, arrhythmia is heart dynamics on the verge of chaos which means extreme sensitivity to small perturbations. I don’t want to frighten you, but we don’t want it to be the last thing you do, even if you go with a smile on your face!!! Please be careful.

  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,134

    As far as I know, none of the Aneros/HIH prostate massagers were designed to come in contact with the seminal vesicles. In the past I have addressed this very issue with the manufacturer, curious about what it would take to do so and what the result might be.

    The MGX Classic/PS New is not longer than the MGX or the Helix (or certainly the Progasm). What distinguishes the Classic are the raised bumps or nodules on the tip of the device. Some users found these irritating while others (like myself) enjoyed them. If I were to bet on it, I would say that this is where your problem lies.

    To the topic of the Aneros hyper stimulating your Vagus nerve to the point of causing extrasystoles, I can tell you that in my 5 years of following this forum, I never seen any other user comments about this. This is not to say that it isn’t possible however. It is true the Vagus nerve wanders (the word "vagus" is taken from the wander) down into the genitourinary tract. There has even been some research that seems to suggest that pelvic Vagus nerve stimulation can generate orgasms in certain women. Other research has shown that similar stimulation can generate a pupillary reflex. So are PVC's possible as well? Frankly, I don't know. I've searched my resources and could find nothing that addresses your particular concerns.

    For the record however, extrasystoles (PVC's/ palpitations) are not life threatening events in and of themselves or are they necessarily some indication of an underlying pathology. Caffeine, sleep deprivation, physical stress, and even physical exercise are just some of the causal factors that have been named in producing transient PVC’s. I myself have them on occasion. No question about it, they’re not pleasant, and I would try to avoid anything that might create them. If you are experiencing them consistently, with the Classic alone, the answer is simple.... use one of the other models.

    As always I should add that I am not a physician. But if you should continue to experience PVC's on a regular basis with or without the Aneros, you would do well to consult with one.

    BF Mayfield
  • crocuscrocus
    Posts: 5
    GrandTiger/B Mayfield - thanks for your concern and responses.

    Don't worry. I live with occassional 'extra' heart beats and have done for some years and I have also consulted a physician and had tests carried out. There appears to be no underlying abnormalities although I have deduced over time that there are some triggers for my symptoms - bloated stomach, too much red wine and excess caffeine to name but three and I've recently experienced this phenomenon with the Classic/PS New Aneros model hence my question.

    I guess I'll have to work on using the other Aneros models to better effect. My, what an onerous journey ..... :)