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What the Hell just Happened?!?!
  • qwer1234
    Posts: 21
    Hi-
    I posted a thread not long ago about being frustrated and at an impasse with my aneros use. Some other members suggested using porn, so I downloaded some onto my labtop. I'm not a huge fan of porn, but I found a site that was shows women maturbating with sex toys, often having explosive female ejaculations(pretty hot I think!). Anyway, I tried the kneeling position with my back straight up and just relaxed and watched the movie. Very quickly I felt pressure on my prostrate(?) that felt like I needed to pee. The feeling got stronger and I just tried to relax and see what happened, because after 6 months of trying, I haven't gotten this type of sensation before. The more I ignored the sensation, the more it increased. After a few minutes, it felt like fluid was coming up into my penis, and the video was pretty damn arousing. I just tried to stay relaxed. Then all of a sudden a large gush of clear liquid streamed out of my penis all over the bed, I was shocked and quickly clenched my PC muscles to stop the flow. Truly, it was like a heavy urination, but the liquid was clear and watery, not like semen at all. I felt no orgasmic waves of pleasure, or contractions- so what the hell happened?!? Did I just urinate(this feels completely embarrasing to have to ask).The fluid had no strong odor, so I'm assuming this was prostate fluid? I certainly didn't have an orgasm, I'm reluctant to try this approach again- it was alot of liquid. Has this happened to anyone else?
  • Hi

    This has happened to me a couple of times usually when It feels like you pushing out so i just hold onto contractions slightly and the pushing out sensation goes away, because I was having a problem when pushing out the aneros would pop out and a couple of times urinate but I have been able to control it and am at the stage where I feel very light waves which go away but am working on controlling it better

    Hopes This helps
  • Edit
    Posts: 0
    You just shot pre-cum, that's all. The prostate produces pre-cum/lubrication, which is mixed with semen when you ejaculate. But you didn't ejaculate, so you just shot out pre-cumm. No you didn't urinate. Nothing to be scared of because that is what happens when you stimulate an organ that holds the pre-cum. Try lying back with your knees bent and feet apart, and prop your head on a pillow. Then watch the movie and just enjoy the scenes, don't think about what's going on with you. Eventually you will get to where you want to go without trying. Takes discipline and a serious mind. Took me 5 months, but finally got there using this method.
  • calton
    Posts: 111
    qwer1234 - (the joy of the qwerty keyboard!)

    ljw is sort of right but what you have experienced is pre-cum from your bulbourethral gland aka Cowpers Gland. This pea size gland is situated below the prostate and drains directly into the urethra. The clear fluid is generally the precursor to ejaculation and conventionally appears following sexual stimulation which does not necessarily have to be generated by genital touching. Visual or other forms of mental stimuli can be enough to provoke this but only if you are in a sexually receptive state. In physiological terms it acts as a sexual lubricant and prepares the urethra for the passage of seminal fluid by neutralising residual acids (from urine) contained on the walls of the urethra.
    The Aneros moves close to and can in circumstances express the bulbourethral glands as the 'bulb' of the penis expands under the effects of penile erection. The tab on the Aneros is responsible to an extent here too by exerting upward pressure that can be transmitted to the bulbourethral gland. Go to Wikipedia for a diagram if you want to locate the individual 'bits" I have described here! Googling 'Cowpers Gland ' should be enough.

    calton
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    Originally Posted By: calton
    qwer1234 - (the joy of the qwerty keyboard!)

    ljw is sort of right but what you have experienced is pre-cum from your bulbourethral gland aka Cowpers Gland. This pea size gland is situated below the prostate and drains directly into the urethra. The clear fluid is generally the precursor to ejaculation and conventionally appears following sexual stimulation which does not necessarily have to be generated by genital touching. Visual or other forms of mental stimuli can be enough to provoke this but only if you are in a sexually receptive state. In physiological terms it acts as a sexual lubricant and prepares the urethra for the passage of seminal fluid by neutralising residual acids (from urine) contained on the walls of the urethra.
    The Aneros moves close to and can in circumstances express the bulbourethral glands as the 'bulb' of the penis expands under the effects of penile erection. The tab on the Aneros is responsible to an extent here too by exerting upward pressure that can be transmitted to the bulbourethral gland. Go to Wikipedia for a diagram if you want to locate the individual 'bits" I have described here! Googling 'Cowpers Gland ' should be enough.

    calton


    OK-
    So I've hit the Cowpers Gland and not the prostate? I'd read of other users getting large amounts of pre-cum oozing out with orgasmic like feelings, but this was different than that. What should I do next? I mean truly, this has been the first tangible result that I've gotten from the Aneros after 6 months+, although it was kind of weird... It was suggested that I lie on my back and try to get into the same relaxed/aroused state of mind. Well, I'll try it and post back to the forum if this changes anything. Thanks.
  • pmagr
    Posts: 6
    Hi,

    Just a question- What was the address for the website where you got so excited?

    Phil
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    qwer1234,

    I'd be inclined to agree with Calton on this except for one thing; you alluded to this being like a heavy urination. Were you referring to the volume or the consistency? What was the consistency of the fluid? Cowper's fluid is clear and odorless but has a viscous (mucus like) quality to it, similar that of KY liquid. If you were referring to volume, I think it's doubtful that this was anything other than urine. After all, even a hearty ejaculation can't compare (in volume) to a bladder full of urine.

    Perhaps you were referring to the stream?

    BF Mayfield

  • Edit
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    Originally Posted By: B Mayfield
    qwer1234,

    I'd be inclined to agree with Calton on this except for one thing; you alluded to this being like a heavy urination. Were you referring to the volume or the consistency? What was the consistency of the fluid? Cowper's fluid is clear and odorless but has a viscous (mucus like) quality to it, similar that of KY liquid. If you were referring to volume, I think it's doubtful that this was anything other than urine. After all, even a hearty ejaculation can't compare (in volume) to a bladder full of urine.

    Perhaps you were referring to the stream?

    BF Mayfield


    I read somewhere that the Cowpers gland is also the source of the fluid for women's ejaculation. Is this true??

    Phil
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    (this post was edited 2006-05-31 21:51:25)


    Phil,

    Given everything I know about my own precum and everything that I've come to appreciate about vaginal lubrication over the years, my belief is that this is essentially the same substance generated by homologous structures in men and women (the scientific literature supports this as well). Cowper's gland is only found in males. However, it has been suggested that this gland may have it's origin in the same tissue that gives rise to Bartholin's glands in females.

    With regard to female ejaculate (for believers) it is the paraurethral glands that are most often attibuted as the source. Still others maintain that the ejaculate is nothing more than a leakage of urine expelled under pressure at the moment of orgasm. The controversy rages on with this one! One thing I can say with some certainty is that most of what one sees in adult films is definitely urine (for heaven sakes they show women expelling QUARTS of it at a time!)

    BF Mayfield
  • Edit
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    You might have just urinated. When I drink A LOT of water, my urine becomes clear and odorless, and I know the same thing happens to some of my friends. We used to joke about it while camping.

    I want to mention though, I havn't used an Aneros, but it's not unreasonable that urine could be clear and odorless. It would also explain the heavy volume.
  • Edit
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    To the person who asked what website I watched, it is: www.fuckingmachines.com
    High quality, beautiful women, playing with the worlds most expensive sex toys. Seriously freaky stuff, best of all- no other men involved to ruin the fantasy ha ha ha.
  • Edit
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    Originally Posted By: qwer1234
    To the person who asked what website I watched, it is: www.fuckingmachines.com
    High quality, beautiful women, playing with the worlds most expensive sex toys. Seriously freaky stuff, best of all- no other men involved to ruin the fantasy ha ha ha.


    Hello qwer1234,

    Thanks for the reply - Sounds real HOT - I'll check it out.

    Phil
  • calton
    Posts: 111
    qwer 1234 -

    Further to BFM's mail regarding the idea that it could have been urine, I concur with his opinion particularly if it was 'thin' (the fluid - not the opinion!) and lacking viscosity. I kinda jumped at this one from the way you described it initially. Two things weighed in my mind against it being urine. The first is that I have no experience of what could be understood as 'stress incontinence' (now don't panic everyone!) - under heavy sexual arousal. The urethral sphincter at the base of the bladder usually remains tightly shut under 'general' arousal conditions (excluding any 'water related' activity). The second is that urine even in small quantities, bearing no viscosity, does tend to 'exit' quicker than the sensations you described would suggest. I imagine that it is highly possible that if you had a reasonably full bladder you could have placed some external stress on it (rectally) from the Aneros hitting it, causing pressure and a momentary release of urine. All very speculative, I know. Perhaps Brian can offer further comment.
    His observations regarding 'female ejaculation' as it relates to copious quantities of fluid is borne out by seeing 'starlets' consuming vast amounts of water throughout movies of this 'genre'! Not that I don't enjoy watching it!

    calton
  • Edit
    Posts: 0
    I just have to chime in...as someone who's been with a 'squirter' and seen, felt, and tasted female ejaculations, I can guarantee it is not urine. It's pretty much like body-temperature water, not sticky or thick at all like male pre-cum or vaginal lubrication. I personally feel that qwerty1234's experience was analagous to that--whatever glands are involved in male secretions have an analogue in the female, and it seems entirely reasonable to me that if she can do it (squirt) he can do it. I've never heard of such a thing, but it sounds interesting.

    As for the porn squirters, some are for real, others basically fill the vagina with fluid (with a turkey baster in one that I've watched) and she squeezes it out. Anyone who's been with a girl that knows how to use her kegel muscles knows the amount of pressure that these muscles can exert.

    My 2 cents.
  • luvinaneros
    Posts: 147
    Some women ejaculate with g-spot stimulation some do not. The beauty of it is that the same nerves that innervate the urethral sponge on the anterior wall of the vagina innervate the prostate gland and with training men can learn how to experience this unique orgasm. My experience the other night caught me by complete suprise so I thought I would post it and see if anyone else has had similar episodes. I usually produce small amounts of secretions from my Cowpers gland but have never had semen come from my penis without penile stimulation or during Super-O's. When I finish I usually masturbate or have a hands free ejaculation with a bullet vibrator in the handle and pulling my scrotum posteriorly between my legs. These prostate stimulators continue to amaze me and open up new sexual doorways and experiences.
  • jakt
    Posts: 10
    On the topic of female ejaculation, 3 out of 4 may actually have retrograde ejaculations:

    http://www.doctorg.com/myth_reality1.htm
    "We believe that most women ejaculate...we have analyzed, in the pre and postorgasmic urine, the presence of prostate specific antigen (PSA) in order to find any difference due to the substances elaborated in the urethral and paraurethral glands and in Skene's ducts. All this is what is known as the 'female prostate'."

    They detected PSA in 75% of subjects only after orgasm.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    jakt,

    Very compelling to be sure, and certainly worthy of more study I'd say. But with a sample of only 24 women, less than conclusive. (Extrapolating that all women have this capacity from 24 women is a bit of a stretch). One of the assumptions that they make in this study is that women (lacking a prostate) do not normally present PSA in their urine or serum. There are studies that show otherwise. One 1998 study isolated serum levels (blood) of the PSA in women which appear to be influenced by the ingestion of oral contraceptives.

    http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/44/1/181

    While another cited the presence of serum levels of PSA that they attributed to breast, ovarian and endometrial tissues.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/82/3/777

    There have been other studies that have looked at women who produced larger amounts of fluid that involved draining their bladders by catheter prior to arousal. The results seem to indicate that some women produce a weak watery type of urine during the process of arousal that is mixed with the paraurethral contents to form a large "ejaculation"

    Still the presence of analogous structures in men and women and the gestational process that gives rise to such tissues makes the concept of female ejaculation highly attractive me. It's been almost ten years since anybody has done research on this...I think this speaks volumes on the "political nature" that surrounds the study of this phenomena. Simply put I believe that as many men are excited by it, many more are intimidated by the idea of "female ejaculation".

    Sadly the realm of human sexuality remains a battleground for moralists, chauvenists and those with an agenda (as those of us who are into anal play know only too well!)

    BF Mayfield

    P.S. I have never had an experience with an ejaculating female (though I wished it were otherwise).....all applicants may reply by email...lol..


  • jakt
    Posts: 10

    Originally Posted By: B Mayfield
    One of the assumptions that they make in this study is that women (lacking a prostate) do not normally present PSA in their urine or serum.


    "75% of our sample presents PSA levels in postorgasmic urine that is not detectable in preorgasmic urine"

    Retrograde ejaculation is at least one of the reasons why more women don't squirt.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    This from the METHODS & RESULTS section of the Cabello study:

    The biochemical parameter analyzed, considered by us the most specific and important to confirm our hypothesis, was the PSA. The importance of this parameter lies in the fact that it has only been found in prostatic tissue and in no other normal or pathological tissue. It has been isolated in seminal liquid (Wang et al., 1979, 1982; Papsidero et al., 1981; Nadji et al., 1981). It is a glycoprotein with a molecular weight of 33.000 to 34.000 daltons, with 7% of carbohydrates in it's molecule, that is found in the epithelial cells of prostatic ducts. It is observed in the prostatic secretion. On the other hand, women do not present PSA in urine or serum.

    Again, there are studies that have shown otherwise.


    BF Mayfield
  • Edit
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    Hey there

    I found your original post looking for somebody whose experience with the Aneros was similar to my own. I hadn't had much luck with it until the other night: having had it in for 20-30 minutes, I startet to feel a tingling sensation in the prostate area which built up into a more urgent feeling - not like a need to urinate, more like a kind of acute arousal. This continued to build until I had a very strong, pleasurable "event" which was not quite like the kind of orgasm I'm used to, but it felt extremely good. As this happened, liquid began to squirt from my penis - at first I thought it was semen, but quickly realized it was too thin and way to copious to be that. I was able to stop the flow by contracting muscles, which also caused the pleasurable sensations to subside. I had an empty drinking glass nearby, so I grabbed that and let things continue. The pseudo-orgasmic sensations returned quickly, and so did the squirting. I don't think it could have been anything but urine, just because there was so much of it. I don' t know of any gland in my body that can hold 2 or 3 cups of liquid! I don't know what this means - evidently it's not that common an experience for Aneros users? In any case, I wasn't at all scared off by this development - I just plan to keep a bucket around next time! Does anybody think there's a way to have the sensations without the massive discharge of pee? It does make for a bit of a mess...