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Always an Interesting Journey...
  • HopefulMMOerHopefulMMOer
    Posts: 390
    Hey everyone, been a while but am happy to get back to the boards. This journey we find ourselves bonded by continues to amaze and surprise. Having been at this almost a year full time, that is regularly practicing with periods of abstinence in between, I find myself yearning for more consistency... Or at the very least, how and or when to spot \ understand \ predict successful sessions and or when duds will occur.

    In that, since I was posting more consistently a couple months ago, I've had a good bit of ups and downs. If I had to summarize, I'd say that I went through a long period of duds, took some time off, and came back within a session or two to new heights of Aless bliss. From there, not having the time to invest and or my techniques becoming repetitive, I experienced more duds. Now as always, don't get me wrong, duds are still generally better then regular JO sessions... But once you've tasted that utter bliss, you yearn for it each and every time.

    Then say three weeks ago, for about ten days to two weeks, my game was upped Alessly as the sessions were out of this world. Quicker, a bit longer, all Aless, it was wonderful. If memory serves, and God knows it should, I was able to ride twice a day sometimes and have the second one better than the next. Even short sessions yielded tingles, internal trembling, anal orgasms, etc. I had to take sometime off as life got in the way, more so, but got back to it the last few nights and have had "successful duds" or "bliss-less SO's." Allow me to explain:}

    Like I experienced way back when, with the FBO's without the O part, I found over the last couple nights to be having Aless sessions with everything going right yet with no O feelings. That is to say, I felt contractions, natural kegeling and reverse kegeling, tingles inside the rectum and here and there throughout the body, but nothing over the top as it all felt inhibited \ subdued. Though I'm sure I'll get back to those heights of my former posts, I continually fear I won't. Irrational? Absolutely!

    I suppose that irrationally is built out of the lack of framework \ consistency. Is it my body? Is it something I'm doing, right or wrong? Do I need to shake things up or push on with the same? When Aless dulls do I go back to riding with an A? Can you switch back and fourth between A and Aless with continued successful sessions? How important is being turned on? Maybe while riding with you can go a little easier with the hormones but without relies more on your imagination \ arousal levels?

    My bet is the questions above can only really be answered by saying, it depends, on each and everyone of us and how we react. Logical yes, but frustrating as well. I guess, if after three great rides I needed to take a week off, no problem. Or after three duds in a row, take a month. Fine still. At least I would know, have a better forecast, be able to plot and plan easier.

    So my question to the vets is, have you been able to find a certain consistency within your rides \ rewiring? And as I'm sure I'm not alone in this, I'd be curious to see if any of the newbies or semi-vets have had similar questions as those above... As always guys and you few gals, thanks for your time and thoughts!
  • Theme_GasmTheme_Gasm
    Posts: 776
    Yes, I've experienced various levels of consistency depending on how much ride time I have available! My A-Less sessions are wonderful, but I also will kick it up a notch if I start out A-Less, and then add my Eupho while having a great A-Less session!

    Because of this success, my mental outlook no longer includes worrying about dud or dull sessions, because I've been through several and have consistently rebounded to new experiences!

    I feel like I'm experiencing an evolutionary process that is training my body and mind for the next level ... whatever that level may be!

    TG
  • JaxsunJaxsun
    Posts: 86
    I too, have sessions that blow my mind and others that don't reach the heights I might have hoped. However, I can't say that I ever feared the mind blowing episodes would never come my way again. That being said, my droughts seem to last only a week or two at the most and I summarize these in my mind as pleasurable experiences that keep me in shape...kinda like a tune-up. I think you said it nicely, and I completely agree "duds are still generally better then regular JO sessions."

    When I go through a dry period I usually switch over to my Tempo or Peridise to mix sessions up. I have found that these sessions can turn on the switch for me. In some cases, in the same session I will exchange the Peridise for my MGX with great results that seemingly gets me on a new path for future sessions. I think it's a matter of ratcheting up my horniness as I contemplate the next session having just completed a nice one.

  • BigGlansDCBigGlansDC
    Posts: 866
    Hi @HopefulMMOer,

    It is so good to see you back after a couple months absence. We had missed you very much.

    I do appreciate your contributions to the Aneros phenomenon, known as Aless! ;) I am glad that you continued your Aless sessions during your time away from us.

    But I leave you with some thoughts. I have discovered several months ago that having regular Aneros sessions prime the pump when it comes to Aless. And then, Aless gives me the leisure to reminisce of my times with my Aneros models. Hence my Aless sessions prime or get me charged for the real thing found in Anerosing.

    I have discovered also that my Aless is 24/7, actually continuous outside of my Aneros sessions. 24/7 Aless consciousness, I call
    covert Aless, but when I tap into the Aless itself, I call it overt Aless.

    @HopefulMMOer, try some relaxed some slow, deep breathing with your Aless, and see what happens. You will be amazed at the results because I have experienced it myself.

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • @HopefulMMOer
    Welcome back! Find your point of balance. Heed BGDC's word regarding A-less. My A-less are often more intense, than when I have an actual session. Sometimes it is the exact opposite. When my A-less get super charged, I know it's time for an Aneros session.

    Best wishes to you,
    Pspotsquirter
  • HopefulMMOerHopefulMMOer
    Posts: 390
    @Theme_Gasm - Yep, I suppose depending on the time and commitment a consistency will develop... Or, well does it?!? All this lends itself to a good bit of troubleshooting, which is fine normally, but with so many options it can get overwhelming. But yes I'd say you're gearing up for the next phase, and obviously that's awesome! And I know, I need to stop fearing the dud's or the amount.

    @Jaxsun - Yeah, just my natural neurotic state \ fears. I know the highs will come back, and improve with time and practice as well. Yet obviously I get caught in my head and bam, let down! Tell me this though, have you gathered enough info to know what leads to your droughts?

    @BigGlansDC - Hey man, as always thank you for the kind words... And yep, even if an internet kill switch does exist (easy nerds, I'm on the bubble about that one!), our training and rewiring has allowed us to continue on the mission. So you find that riding with helps without? And haha, covert and overt, know absolutely what you mean! For me I'm able to reverse kegel anywhere, just a bit, and begin to feel those tingles and what not... And I've gotten better with the breathing but nowhere I need to be practicing wise to really charge up a session.

    @Pspotsquirter - Thank you man:} And so, you're saying when you have a really good Aless session your sessions with your aneros are that much better? Like you know because your Aless was out of this world your riding with will be the same if not better?
  • HopefulMMOerHopefulMMOer
    Posts: 390
    I'll use this quick update to illustrate the questions that pop up during the ole A session.

    Rode with the Peridise pair, the bigger bulbed one. Laid on side, nothing much. Shimmed myself down the bed on my front, laid legs on hamper, torso on bed, with my guy and the boys hangin free in between the empty space between the hamper and end of the bed. Relaxed, watched some porn, and then just went silent and fantasized. Definitely activity, bit of tingles, split second O feeling here and there, few more tingles as I finished up with my STU. (That's Stamina Training Unit for those unfamiliar with the wonders of the fleshlight)

    So, a few questions that popped up. Not enough time? Position too new? Should I have gone Aless? Should I have JOed earlier today when the chance arose? Should I have used the smaller peridise or my helix? Less porn? More porn? Jazz? Country?

    The questions go on and on, but the point is to show what pops into my head when I talk about trouble- shooting... The trouble with troubleshooting is, there's too many areas to go. (See what I did there?)
  • TomasheenTomasheen
    Posts: 225
    Please do explain "Aless"!
  • BigGlansDCBigGlansDC
    Posts: 866
    Hi @Tomasheen,

    Aless or A-less is the term in which you have a Anerosless session or a session which feels like an Aneros session, but there is NOT an Aneros inserted.

    I have gotten to the point that my Aless is 24/7 outside of my actual Aneros sessions. Now my Aneros sessions power my Aless which is that low grade buzz centered in my awakened prostate. Actually this buzz feels like delicious mini P-waves emanating from my prostate and suffusing my groin area. I call this
    covert Aless. But I can increase covert Aless to overt Aless very easily through some Kegels or even just thinking or exulting in this delicious energy. Hope this answers your question.

    Wow, @HopefulMMOer! Thank you for telling us about your session with the Peridise! I am impressed by your STU! ;)

    As regards your questions, for guys beginning with the Peridise, it is good to use the "bigger bulbed one."

    Generally I stay away from porn when I have an Aneros session. Also I keep away from my penis because I find my penis a distraction. Hence I stay away from porn as well. I prefer lying on my right side now and use mostly the do-nothing approach. Also I do not listen to music during a session. But other guys may enjoy music instead. So whenever I have a session, I like to focus upon the Aneros and what it is doing to me. Finally I come to my sessions to have fun and pleasure. I find deep and gentle breathing is a great help. It is better that way. Hope this helps.

    Thom./BigGlansDC


  • JaxsunJaxsun
    Posts: 86
    @HopefullMMOer - nothing very scientific re. droughts but here are my perceived likely causes not in any order of priority:
    1. Device is not moving like it should due to insufficient lube or on occasion, not sufficiently "cleaned out."
    2. Not enough time to savor things between sessions that might heighten my horniness (too much frequency)
    3. Wet orgasm frequency may also be a culprit
    4. Too much non-Aneros "STUFF" cluttering my mind hindering the concentration that leads to success.

    Lately I only pursue a session with MGX or PS New when I can really feel the desire building that stokes the horniness fires.

    Hope this may be of help!
  • DarkEngineDarkEngine
    Posts: 204
    So my question to the vets is, have you been able to find a certain consistency within your rides \ rewiring? And as I'm sure I'm not alone in this, I'd be curious to see if any of the newbies or semi-vets have had similar questions as those above... As always guys and you few gals, thanks for your time and thoughts!


    Yes - at least for me. Five to six days of abstaining is when my libido is high, which in turn means the Aneros is able to work better with the sensations and arousal. (Though too high of an arousal can saturate Aneros sessions, too) The suitable length of abstaining may be different for you — but generally you'll know when its near the peak when your arousal sparks from mere glimpses or brief thoughts on something erotic or not. (A p-wave will briefly flare up inside you)

    Jaxsun pretty much touches on al the major points, especially #1 and #4. Mid-way through the journey, great sessions will feel like its based on luck more than anything, because the body simply hasn't wired itself enough to know when something is suppose to feel great — hence the 'bliss-less SO'. 

    I suppose the key thing that has helped make my sessions more and more consistent in pleasure is exploring what and why something makes me aroused. Deconstruct the sexual fantasies, and then let yourself go. Does it end up being a gay fantasy? Then let it be. Don't constrain yourself.
    As I did this, feelings of adrenaline would suddenly burst and wave over the abdomen — a telltale sign that rewiring is in effect. Most of this occurred without the Aneros.

    Edit:
    Another tip, brought up once from a poster here: If you feel like doing something, try going the opposite direction. Do you feel like touching the nipples? Hold back, see what develops. How about shaking? Stop, stay still. Want to breath heavily? Hold your breath. Keep tricking your expectations.
  • HopefulMMOerHopefulMMOer
    Posts: 390
    @BigGlansDC - Yeah, not sure if the STU actually helps S with it's TU, but it still feels nice! And yes, I've tried those approaches all with general success, though what seemed to help me the most back a bit was my imagination. Obviously being turned on is very key and at least for me, I tend to get numb to the same stimuli after a while, and sometimes find nothing really works. And like you I generally avoid playing with my guy but figured I'd experiment a bit with the STU

    @Jaxsun - 1: Would tend to agree when I'm riding with, however by and large when I do, and this is from the beginning, I haven't found a lot of movement.
    2: Do you mean the time between your rides you don't enjoy when you're feeling horny?
    3: Yep, sometimes I think so too... But there are nice sessions I'll end wet, and sometimes just a few hours later the next session I have is a lot better! Really would love to know why
    4: Yes yes and YES! Good stuff man:}

    @DarkEngine - Yeah you know, I'm probably receiving signs, subtle as they are, from my body that it might be a good idea to ride sooner than I'd think or wait a bit longer. And umm, that nail's head must hurt from you hitting it directly, ala; "Mid-way through the journey, great sessions will feel like its based on
    luck more than anything, because the body simply hasn't wired itself
    enough to know when something is suppose to feel great — hence the
    'bliss-less SO'. "

    Pretty much that's me, feeling lucky when the great ones strike and blah when they don't. Again, we all know well by now, each man is different and rewiring can vary greatly. I'd say by and large I'm doing well but lack obviously in consistency. And yes, I'm telling you, in absolutely every way I feel contractions, tingles, seconds where I kegel tightly and the reverse, and other "symptoms" of a great ride but barely feel anything bliss or O related... Now tell me @DarkEngine, have you experienced this?

    And yeah, I mean I don't want to say I have a problem with arousal perse or 'getting it up.' Now I'm 32 and look, if I have low T or something else wrong then fine, I'm not Mr crazy alpha ass kickin male personality that that affects how I see myself, it is what it is. But I guess I have yet to explore thoroughly enough what turns me on and or focus on what does.

    Your tips are also apt, as that's what I called, or meant by, troubleshooting. But like I pointed out above that when I ride and go wet, then ride a few hours later its better, it's not always like that.


    So gents, I won't post this ? in a new thread b\c it might make me seem like a huge noob \ green horn (right term?) but okay, arousal is important... But how!?!? How much is arousal important to rewiring \ a successful session \ etc?
  • DarkEngineDarkEngine
    Posts: 204
    "Pretty much that's me, feeling lucky when the great ones strike and blah when they don't. Again, we all know well by now, each man is different and rewiring can vary greatly. I'd say by and large I'm doing well but lack obviously in consistency. And yes, I'm telling you, in absolutely every way I feel contractions, tingles, seconds where I kegel tightly and the reverse, and other "symptoms" of a great ride but barely feel anything bliss or O related... Now tell me @DarkEngine, have you experienced this?"

    Absolutely! It was one of my muddy episodes with Aneros, one I couldn't wrap my head around:

    With a lot of these topics, nobody explicitly points out if the user is doing something wrong; you generally can't do anything wrong on the journey, other than stop using the Aneros. But even that helps. It's frustrating when this great experience is being dangled in front of you, out of reach, but it'll get closer and closer with exploration and experimentation. Try and relax, knowing it'll come eventually - you're doing everything right.

    With arousal, there's no 'set' amount needed prior to a session — just as long as you feel in the mood for one. Generally, the arousal increases with the Aneros — by how much, it varies, but any sort of increase in arousal is a successful session.
  • HopefulMMOerHopefulMMOer
    Posts: 390
    Haha yep, you can't "do anything wrong on the journey, other than stop using the Aneros... But even that helps." As a fan of irony, that certainly made me smile as it rings true from stem to stern. And yes, relaxing is clearly one of the most basic universal keys in this journey, hard as it may be for myself at times.

    So last night rode with the smaller peredise, started Aless then went A... The best part of the night was on my front with strong MMO's \ light SO's. Tonight rode with the peredise the whole time, not much at first until I laid on my side, and again light SO's. Obviously a pattern is emerging, or is it? So tomorrow night, ride with the peredise, on my front, from the beginning.

    If I knew what to eliminate or add, set amount of time to take off or others to go balls to the wall with multiple sessions, well, I guess if it were that easy everyone would be doing it!
  • euphemisticeuphemistic
    Posts: 888
    "I guess if it were that easy everyone would be doing it!" Exactly. :))
  • Lately my "failed" aneros sessions have ended up with me just falling into a very restful deep sleep during the session. So pretty much win win for me!
  • BigGlansDCBigGlansDC
    Posts: 866

    Lately my "failed" aneros sessions have ended up with me just falling into a very restful deep sleep during the session. So pretty much win win for me!



    That's wonderful, @Mostinteresting1! But do you still feel a lingering surge in your groin even when you fall into a deep sleep. Several days ago, I had a session which began at 10 p.m. and ended at around 2:30 a.m. in the morning. I came away from the session deeply satisfied. But when I got up a few hours later around 7 a.m., I awoke feeling randy. So I masturbated to a very satisfying orgasm and ejaculation of semen which was absolutely wonderful!

    I think @HopefulMMOer has a very good approach to his sessions in his phrase, "Always an Interesting Journey." I find that now even in "failed" sessions, I come away with Aless which is sweet.

    When I tap into my 24/7 Aless undercurrent, I find that several mild Kegels with subtle, deep breathing transport me into a fairly intense, yet satisfying Aless. Right now I am sitting in my chair and feel a "sweet" tightness between my scrotum and my anus. There is sweet, sexual energy centered in my perineum. Breathing and stimulating my erogenous zones, such as my nipples and hairy chest and abs are enough to through me into Aless.

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • BigGlansDCBigGlansDC
    Posts: 866
    Hi guys,

    @DarkEngine offered some helpful advice to @HopefulMMOer above to his Aneros questions. He also put forward four questions which I want to answer:

    DarkEngine said:



    Absolutely! It was one of my muddy episodes with Aneros, one I couldn't wrap my head around:
    My answer: You begin to "feel" your prostate when it begins to awaken in your Aneros sessions. These feelings or sensations increase, become more delicious and sweet over time.

    My answer: It helps, but I believe the more you use the Aneros, the Aneros actually stimulates the production of more testosterone.

    My answer: They be "invisible" or absent in the beginning, but they also increase, become delicious and sweet as your prostate awakens. You begin to notice that these sensations and those of the prostate are intimately related and connected.

    My answer: I found in my two plus years of Aneros sessions, that I look forward toward each session. I have sexualized all my Aneros models and become "horny" for them.

    With a lot of these topics, nobody explicitly points out if the user is doing something wrong; you generally can't do anything wrong on the journey, other than stop using the Aneros. But even that helps. It's frustrating when this great experience is being dangled in front of you, out of reach, but it'll get closer and closer with exploration and experimentation. Try and relax, knowing it'll come eventually - you're doing everything right.

    With arousal, there's no 'set' amount needed prior to a session — just as long as you feel in the mood for one. Generally, the arousal increases with the Aneros — by how much, it varies, but any sort of increase in arousal is a successful session.

    I believe that my Aneros experience closely parallel's @DarkEngine's experience. That is why I appreciate very much his wisdom.

  • @BigGlansDC - I guess it's just forcing myself not to be too down on all this, knowing that one, it does take  A LOT of patience and two, when it's good, man alive is it good. And I think I'm slowly rewiring to your point where with some effort, usually a light reverse kegel, I get the O energy going.
  • So trying to troubleshoot out issues and so far so good... Rode with helix Mon and Tues, good but nothing crazy. Nothing Wednesday. Thursday went Aless and it was okay, again nothing nuts. Last night rode with helix, okay, and ended wet. Then had a fantastic Aless session. Yesterday as well as today I had mini sessions where I'd just reverse kegel and experienced nice O energy. Now tonight I went Aless and again, it was fantastic. This time I didn't end wet and am curious about my next session, if and when I have one later tonight.

    One thing... Laying on my front, just on a towel instead of a pillow, and am not relying on porn as much if at all, instead just listening to it or just letting my imagination explore to either silence or pieces from youtube.

    I'm curious, does anybody ever go with just silence?
  • @HopefulMMOer , I find anything other than music to be too distracting, especially porn. 
  • ineverknewineverknew
    Posts: 1,173
    my best sessions are complete silence with no porn.
  • @MostInteresting1 - @ineverknew

    Yeah if I had to guess, you guys are in the majority. I do about fifty fifty using porn, depending on a variety of situations and reasons. However at the moment simply listening to them or using mediation or erotic audio is helping A LOT better.

    Speaking of, rode with tonight, and I'd say had one of my better sessions as of late. Can't say it was the tops, but in the last couple months if not more, it was definitely up there... Along with my very recent sessions the past few days as well. Still don't know if I'll go Aless but while I need to make sure I'm not overdoing it, at the same time I think this is definitely aiding in my continual rewiring.

    Oh and yeah, FBO's, SO's, DO's and all around O energy is pretty frickin fantastic as well!
  • Yeah, so, @euphemistic got me thinking about my lack of involuntaries, and though I've had em plenty of times, I don't think it happens as much with me as opposed to others, at least now that I'm past the newbie phase. Also, can't preach the choir of the RK enough, that's reverse kegel for those that find themselves fatigued with my continual alphabet usage! For me anyway, push down in the slightest way like you're trying to pee, and BAM, it gets things going... Again, for myself anyway.

    Thirdly, ending wet. Brothers I'm not lying when I say, last night for example, I went Aless in the early evening, everything was very nice and above what I consider to be duds. (Per my other post.) So in keeping with troubleshooting my way to curled toes and a hoarse voice, I ended wet and drained. Few hours later, took a bit but B A M O! Went Aless and had more tingling, SO's, and MMDO's, and some body stuff here and there. They were also a bit more powerful as well.

    So as always, take this with what is meant for, a log and also a way to help those that may need it after they've tried the more common methods. Hell, I might be doing better IF I did, and that isn't to say I haven't, but you have to wonder why I can get to where I am currently after going wet for instance only to have a great Aless later on.
  • Welp, gotta say wow for starters... Been off for about a week, a quickie last week was okay but that was it. Went Aless tonight for about an hour and a half, within say, ten minutes things were percolating and on from there were DO's N light to medium SO's.

    Things then calmed down and I just laid and relaxed. Feelings were nice, and I wasn't sure if they were going to lead to anything. Well, they did. From I'd say nicely strong SO's to sustained FBO's for about, ten minutes ish, I have to say at one point I almost felt like I was spinning and or dizzy. Afterwards I couldn't get out of my own way for some reason, good bit lethargic.

    So there you have it, just adding another example to this thread's title. But tell me, anyone have dizzy \ spinny feelings during their highs of any kind?
  • "So there you have it, just adding another example to this thread's title. But tell me, anyone have dizzy \ spinny feelings during their highs of any kind?"


    Oh yes! Not every time, but it does happen! Today's orgasms were some of the deepest and enjoyable I've ever had!

    I need a solid 1 - 1 1/2 hours to climb the plateaus I've been reaching...and it's worth every second...because the climb is just as amazing as each plateau I find myself on, which continues to amaze me!

    And, of course it's always an interesting Journey!

    TG
  • @Theme_Gasm - Yeah man it was crazy, the first really long sustained FBO I've had that I can remember, and I would think I would if I had it before let alone said so here, but at one point I really did feel like the room was spinning. Definitely didn't expect that!

    So if I read you right, you take a least that much time climbing to get to your high highs?!?
  • Yes, but it varies of course! My best sessions are not rushed and usually last at least two or more hours! During that time I'm usually awash in very frequent p-waves, involuntary contractions, and a Prostate that is often screaming with pleasure! Man, I love this experience!

    TG
  • Yes, but it varies of course! My best sessions are not rushed and usually last at least two or more hours! During that time I'm usually awash in very frequent p-waves, involuntary contractions, and a Prostate that is often screaming with pleasure! Man, I love this experience!

    TG



    @Theme_Gasm, my sessions are similar to yours and my experiences are similar to yours.


    Oh, the sweetness and sublimity of Aless, especially since my Aless is now continuous, at times pulsating or undulating.

    Thom./BigGlansDC
  • @BigGlansDC - Yeah man I'll tell you, not that I'd ever give up using the A, and in fact I don't want my body to forget it, if that's possible... However it's so much easier going Aless for a session, though I don't experience pangs of Aless feelings without specifically trying.
  • Your body will very soon crave the Aneros, @HopefulMMOer. It will become soon automatic with you to the point just about every session will be unforgettable. I am with you in your Aneros journey, pal! :)
  • @BigGlansDC - Obviously this two plus  months later but where I'm not there yet craving wise, it was around that time in October when my baseline went up a few notches! But yes, we're in this together as brothers and our few sisters who are seeking to expand our awareness both psychical and mental sexually speaking!
  • @BigGlansDC - ... But yes, we're in this together as brothers and our few sisters who are seeking to expand our awareness both psychical and mental sexually speaking!


    I like this, @hopefulmmoer!

    @darkengine said "Testosterone: Necessary?
    My answer: It helps, but I believe the more you use the Aneros, the Aneros actually stimulates the production of more testosterone"

    I wonder if there is some truth to this. Anyone notice their T level rising since starting with aneros? I've been tested with low T level before starting this journey which is what got me going. I've felt gradually so much more alive and sexy since then.
  • @euphemistic I've had my t levels checked before and after the journey and there has been no change.

    I was shocked to find that out since I feel supercharged like I am 16 again. The desire and constant erections is off the charts. My overall energy level of my entire body is freaking awesome. It affects my whole life. I wake up ready to start my day and energized during the work day.

    Like that other thread... I feel like I am in puberty
  • @euphemistic - We're like a family, the kind that argue a lot and don't mind talking about assholes, orgasms, et al:}