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21 day challenge post
  • LinumLinum
    Posts: 227
    @Jspad - I have discovered that it is possible for me to ejaculate non-orgasmically, and I wonder if that is something for you?

    I too love to edge, and I also practice temporary ejaculatory abstinence.  Even, if I don't edge, I find I can get REALLY excited after a period of days, and there is a danger of blue ball syndrome, or "backing up" as you describe.

    I find that if I let myself go completely flaccid, go and make myself some tea or something, and then come back to masturbation later (say 15 minutes to several hours later) - I try not to get too excited, and just wank myself, breathing deeply, and relaxing.  As I get harder, I get a sense of being about to pee.  If I follow that, and stop masturbating when there appears to be a flow - I can ejaculate (without orgasm) - 2 or 3 long shots.  I shoot further than I usually do for a wet orgasm, and it consists of a LOT of precum or similar.

    This is actually more pleasurable than it might sound, plus there is an instant release from all that pressure, and if you are so inclined you will still be horny and you can have fun eating it - lol  I find that my ability to dry orgasm SUDDENLY increases after such non-orgasmic ejaculations.  I am suspicious that this backing up of fluids can suppress multi-orgasmic responses (not eliminate them entirely).

    Since there is no refractory period, there is no loss of sexual energy.

    Hope this helps

    Linum
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 677
    @Linium
    Very interesting, that's worth a separate subject I think.
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    Thanks @Canacan for the reference to the medicines, i have never heard of those, however my post was not off-topic as those body reactions where the direct result of abstaining which stemmed from this challenge. This thread is about abstinence and the 21 day challenge, not increasing arousal. I thought it'd be a good idea to let people know that they're body may do some bizarre stuff if they properly keep up with the abstinence.
  • CanacanCanacan
    Posts: 677
    @Trei Strange indeed. Can't find meds with this in US, while they are extremly common in Europe.
    In mexico for the first : http://www.igenericdrugs.com/?s=Panclasa
    See if anything rings a bell fir the second : http://www.igenericdrugs.com/gd.cgi?notran=1&s=Mephenesin+&search=SEARCH
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    Day 1 again since I had a wet dream again.

    I'm starting a different approach though. I'm trying out the 90 day nofap challenge. You don't reset after wet dreams with nofap, only if you masturbate or use porn, depending on your goal. I'll likely do neither. Anyway, somewhere along the line I may make it past 21 days without a wet dream. Then again, I might not. Either way, I'm sure to learn more along the way. I've also heard of the benefits of going an extended period without masturbation or porn, even if one does ejaculate with wet dreams.
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    If this where nofap i'd be on day 35 :) All bragging aside, wet dreams are normal and cannot be stopped, however the frequency at which you are having them seems to be very abnormal as they don't occur so frequently in most people. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    In regards to the extended benefits of nofapping, I’d say the benefits I’ve gotten so far is seemingly lowered arousal and better ability to lock away my sexuality. Also stable energy at almost all times, but the negatives are very harsh. My constipation issue is even returning, but that may be because i haven't used aneros in a while. I want to add though that i have not been masturbating my whole life as i started only last year so the benefits for others will likely vary greatly from that of my own. 

    Who knows what'll happen around day 90. Perhaps you should start a new thread to rally others who may be interested in this challenge.
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    Yeah, I probably should start a new thread, though I don't feel like abandoning this entirely. I guess I'll keep track of how many days since starting as well as last ejaculation via wet dream on the new thread.
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    OK, I've started a new thread for NoFap challenge :)
  • Cearul8Cearul8
    Posts: 10
    I am a student of Tantra, and I generally do not allow myself to cum when I orgasm.  I am still working on going longer between masturbatory sessions, but I usually only cum once a month now.
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    A student of Tantra? Cool! I have a question, if you don't mind me asking.

    Do you ever have problems with pressure in the pelvic region? I end up with this if I masturbate without ejaculating. Sometimes it's even a bit painful. Also, do you know how to remedy something like this?
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    @Jspad, there is a possibility that you are having retrograde ejaculations where as the ejac gets rerouted into the urethra it can be very dangerous.

    This is a common thing amongst those who try to orgasm without ejaculating in a penile fashion.

    I’ve even unknowingly had a few when i used to practice penile orgasm without ejaculation leading me into the false belief that i was successful.
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    I hadn't been doing it to the point of orgasm though.
  • TreiTrei
    Posts: 246
    I see, hmm.
  • EhmEhm
    Posts: 189
    This is what I do:
    First I put my mental focus on my prostate, when I feel I'm close to ejaculating I put my focus on my coccyx, let the pleasure build in that spot, again when close to ejac. I move my focus to belly button and go back and forth. It works a bit like the Aneros like this, subtle sensations that build the whole body orgasmic feeling. Once I've got this route going I can edge much closer to the point of no return then contract anal and back pc muscle which gives me nice dry orgasms. I was at it yesterday for 1,5 hours this morning I feel a similar throbbing sensation in my prostate as with the Aneros.
    So to answer your question Jspad about pressure in the pelvic region, I think it has to do with keeping your focus in the groin and without ejaculating that pent up energy's got nowhere to go, the belly button is the most safe place and also gives a really nice feeling as well.
    I used to get this as well, or blue balls as some call it. Mantak Chia's method of bringing it round the microcosmic orbit never really worked for me, perhaps coz it was too fast from balls to belly button(also some points couldn't store the sexual energy like the points I mentioned and mental focus on ALL these points is just too much for me, but I still get the benefit of all these points coz that's just how energy travels in the body) and I'd still sometimes get what you describe. Now like this I'm basically still using the same mco but with this slower method I can get the hang of it
  • JspadJspad
    Posts: 172
    I've tried circulating the energy along the micro cosmic orbit before, to make sure the energy is circulated. Either I'm not good at moving the energy yet, or it doesn't have much effect on the swelling of blood in my pelvic region. I'm getting along a lot better in the 90 day nofap challenge anyway.