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KSMO questions
  • dtmsmith
    Posts: 219
    I've seen some mention of this on the forum and it sounds like people have had success with it. Given my anerosless success so far, I thought KSMO might be used to enhance my experiences. What do you think? If I'm on the right track, then what's the best way to proceed? Do I need to buy the audio CD? Or, is there a better way? The CD is $70 on amazon. Any way of getting it cheaper?
    Also, I'd appreciate a brief explanation of what KSMO practice entails. It sort of sounds like meditation. Does it involve making a particular sound as well? If so, then is it fair to assume the privacy is required?
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,254
    dtmsmith,

    There are numerous threads on this Forum which discuss the KSMO protocol. Here is one such thread - http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/anerose-ksmo-10548/ , I'll leave it to you to use the SEARCH to find the many others.

    Here's a link to Jack Johnston's site where you can get even more information. You can buy a download only or buy the CD & get the dowmload for the same price on Jack's site for $69.95. Seeing as how Jack makes his living off of this, giving you a lifetime membership and support, I think it would be nice if you supported him directly instead of going through middlemen who rake their profit away.
  • dtmsmith
    Posts: 219
    Rumel,
    Thanks for the pointers. I agree I should have searched better. I did search for the keyword KSMO but found lots of threads that mentioned it in passing. I just now found the search page that lets you specify "title only". I guess I haven't yet gotten the hang of this new forum. :-)
  • dtmsmith
    Posts: 219
    OK, I bought the KSMO material last night, listened to it, then retired to the bed to practice. After the first sound I was already feeling something. By the third, I was getting full-body p-waves. I was really surprised things happened so quickly. I ended up masturbating along with it and was able to hold off ejaculation for a little longer than normal. Once I let go, then orgasm was fantastic.
    This morning, I did more of it and was able to get very intense p-waves and mini-o's in the first 5 minutes. Also, I used the breathing technique without any sound. The feelings were more full-body that what I've experienced in the past. My aneros-less feelings usually start in my prostate and take a while to get to the rest of my body. And, for some reason, it took much less mental focus to get things going. This stuff is pretty amazing...
    I know this is not the KSMO forum so I won't be posting much (if anything) about my KSMO experiences here. I just wanted to follow up on my original question with one update.
  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,077
    dtmsmith,

    Congratulations on your results with KSMO, it is indeed amazing! I've been touting it as a "breadth requirement" for one's Super O exploration since my earliest days in this forum. It's terrific when used by itself and invariably optimizes ones session with the Aneros as well.....even if you're not practicing it at the same time. As you found out the breathing techniques alone are very valuable for generating sensations. I might suggest that you use these breathing techniques in conjunction with an Aneros session and see where it takes you. This was one of the things that I used years ago to get myself back on track when I was having inconsistent results with the Aneros by itself. In terms of combining KSMO and the Aneros, I found it most productive to make KSMO my primary focus with the Aneros more or less along for the ride. That is, I inserted it and forgot about it.....allowing the Aneros to respond to the involuntary contractions that KSMO generated.

    Enjoy!

    BF Mayfield
  • dtmsmith
    Posts: 219
    Thanks BF Mayfield...
    I've been playing with the key sound off and on all day. It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous. Next time I have some time for an aneros session, I will definitely combine the two.
    By the way, I am completely convinced that it's the aneros that started it all. Had I never inserted this crazy plastic thing in my butt, I may have tossed KSMO aside as a money-making scam.
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    >It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous.<<br />
    Look upon the KSMO as a long-term investment which, if you pursue it seriously, will enhance and underpin, for life, practically any other sexual practice you might wish to engage upon.

    Like you, the Aneros device started it all for me, but it never became stratospheric until I became proficient in the KSMO. The KSMO now comprises my primary and preferred exploration route to continuous (literally) orgasm.

    Good luck.

    Mog
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,474
    Well dtmsmith! or maybe Mr.Natural!!! :D :D

    Congratulations indeed. And thanks, rumel, BF and Sir Mog too!!! This thread is at the heart of the real power and magic potential in all of this.

    [QUOTE=dtmsmith;87223]Thanks BF Mayfield...
    I've been playing with the key sound off and on all day. It's amazing how much feeling I can generate with something so simple and, at least on the surface, a little ridiculous. Next time I have some time for an aneros session, I will definitely combine the two.
    By the way, I am completely convinced that it's the aneros that started it all. Had I never inserted this crazy plastic thing in my butt, I may have tossed KSMO aside as a money-making scam.

    I joined and started practising KSMO soon after starting Aneros three years ago. Contrary to the good advice on both sites, I very soon started combining the practices in my sessions and that is when things REALLY accelerated radically!! And while I have gone back from time to time exploring each separately, once a man masters KSMO, it is so integral to one's body/mind, it really becomes the core practice and can become the always-on, background, full spectrum energies access/direction-intention "arousal with being alive in/to the world".

    dtmsmiththese practices seem to come so naturally to you, you may also find that as your system feels "at home" with KSMO, you do not actually need to make the sound out loud to get the effects. Numbers of us at the KSMO site have reported gaining success with the silent KS, initially making the motions in your throat without airflow, and ultimately without any of that either, simply by mental intent (which also neurally replays the accumulated muscle memories). dtmsmith, I hope you will blog and chat and post at KSMO as well!

    Aneros is a fabulous key in prostate awakening through the gentle spontaneous path, and/or the muscle memory training path. And the BPH therapy blow-out, "clean the pipes" path!! Thanks BF for your practice overview and you too mog. I concur with you both and mine is essentially the same. It would top off this thread if it catches Pan's eyes too, because he and I have chatted about this a number of times and he too sees KSMO as the core of his multi-discipline practice.

    Last fall, family events took me to Victoria BC, near KSMO discoverer/guru and fellow Anerosian Hydraulic Jack's and Jackie's (his artist wife) new home. Jack and I were able to free up 2+ hours to meet and immediately launched into a highly energetic animated conversation that ranged all around ecstatic existence and experience. What a great guy and wonderful friend. A number of KizMosians have initiated a Grand Gathering of practitioners on Vancouver Island this summer and Jack will be leading some workshops sessions, and providing some additional complementary practices, as well as discussing them at the KSMO site.

    all the best searching, sampling and integrating the best personal combination of complementary ecstatic body/mind practices all

    artform
  • mog
    Posts: 149
    A great post, art!:)

    >It would top off this thread if it catches Pan's eyes too....<<br />
    Yes, Pan, being a very articulate guy, I also hope he surfaces to give his views. Where are you, Pan!

    > Numbers of us at the KSMO site have reported gaining success with the silent KS..<<br />
    Me too. I found the Key Sound got me off the ground in the early days but I don't need to use it any more.

    Pleased to meet you over in the other side, dtm.:)

    Mog
  • BusterBuster
    Posts: 953
    Great thread! I recommend KSMO practice to anyone. It really helped me ramp things up.
  • I just (now) hopped on the KSMO bandwagon as well.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,474
    Great news La petite mort!! :D :D

    Just welcomed you there!

    Just to finish my post above and link rumel's important related thread Are you aroused?, here was my summary paragraph of reply:

    Am I "aroused" rumel? Yes my friend, I am, always, all ways. This Aneros practice together with the selected complementary ones I have practised over the years, and more so since beginning with Aneros three years ago, have become a whole being arousal with life's universal generative/creative/sustaining/learning/openning energies, one that the slightest sensory delight in any form, or fleeting flash of memory, can trigger an orgasmic blossoming or explosion, appropriate to the social situation, that has me an always aroused celebrant of all. With gratitude beyond measure...

    What I should have said explicitly is that over the last three years, and really in a few months in later 2007 – early 2008, KSMO progress accelerating Aneros, and KSMO on its own was the great catalyst in my/our practice. I have detailed aspects of this in my blog: http://www.aneros.com/displayblog.php?id=3544

    all the best catalysing of your ecstatic potentiation all

    artform
  • somejoe
    Posts: 10
    Sounds great for low level physical stimulation, what if your partner wants some high level stimulation? Will this help keep you from going over the ejaculation edge?
  • Pan
    Posts: 249
    One of the benefits of KSMO practice is that with time and a certain degree of progress (learning to enjoy multiple and extended orgasmic states), you will develop a high tolerance for pleasure and arousal without automatically triggering the various physiological processes (shallow, rapid breathing centered high in the chest, tension in the major muscles groups, etc) which lead inevitably to ejaculation.

    However, you (and your partner) will derive the greatest results when you choose to increase the physical stimulation gradually, allowing your body and mind sufficient time to "warm up" into a state of being simultaneously extremely aroused and deeply relaxed - which is the hallmark of any successful KSMO session. Once you achieve this state, you completely bypass "the edge," and will be able to enjoy any level of stimulation for any length of time without ever feeling even the slightest urge to ejaculate, unless of course, you genuinely want to do so. KSMO is not designed for "quickies." But if quickies are what you wish to avoid, then I think you'll find that taking your time in beginning is well worth the investment.

    So the most important first step is not about technique, but rather about communication in which you explain to your partner how and why starting slow will ultimately provide both of you with the most orgasmic pleasures as well as the most freedom in terms of the type and amount of stimulation you will be able to provide and enjoy. Simply put, start out slowly enough, and eventually you'll be able to go as hard and as fast for as long as either you wants. Ironically though, most men and their partners find that once they are able to achieve these wonderful, relaxed states of orgasmic bliss, they prefer to linger in those moments, savoring all of the sensations, and in fact, deriving far more pleasure from the slightest movement, touch, or breath than from any length of monotonous "pounding." But yes, pounding away is always an option once a certain degree of mastery has been achieved with the technique.

    Of course, it's important to understand that it's best to start by learning how to confidently enter into this multi-orgasmic state on your own before you attempt to lead a partner there with you. KSMO takes time to learn and for many people, it takes just as much time to process all of the new pleasures one suddenly becomes capable of. It can be a little overwhelming, especially if it comes as a surprise.

    Pan
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,474
    Pan and All!! :D :D

    YES... YES... YES... Timing and communications soon become palpable gentle energies exchanging with your partner, as you start slowly and enable those, best via KSMO, to become your mutual keys to the orgasmic kingdom in all its magnificent variations and possibilities.

    See Dr. R. von Urban's BioElectric Sex in the Ramsdale's book: Sexual Energy Ecstasy to assist in sensing the process KSMO facilitates so well. Details in my blog. Link in my post above. Then use your own intuition to fine tune the practice to suit you and your partner, without losing the ability to trigger these vital energies exchanges as part of the glorious slow start.

    inward and integrating upward and ecstasies sharing with significance all

    artform